Happened to come across a couple of sites recently which would not be very friendly to Firefox.
a)The sites being the Air Sahara/Indiatimes auctions site. b) www.visa-services.com c) Indiapost.org (The pincode locator feature dies on detecting non IE)
Now, without taking the effort to get to a windows machine, are my chances of viewing those sites next to nil?
Side Question: Has anyone run the Galileo software (travel bookings) on linux?
Details about the sites not opened in Firefox. The Indiatimes auctions site gives this message at some point after going through 2 steps. "Error ! The current browser is either too old or too modern (usind DOM document structure)."
The www.visa-services.com site gives the message "this site is best viewed with IE so n so and above and 800x600 res. And nothing can be done. cant click ahead.
The Indiapost.org site (http://www.indiapost.org/Netscape/pinsearch1.asp) returns
Page not found error message from IIS and the url in the address bar changes to "http://www.indiapost.org/Netscape/pinsearch2.asp"
So looks like they have a specific error message for netscape based browsers. So if I were to succeed in making my office windows free eventually, how would I be able to access the sites above and many such?
views comments feedback, appreciated as always.
Abhishek
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On Apr 5, 2005 9:53 AM, Abhishek Daga abhishekdaga@yahoo.com wrote:
Happened to come across a couple of sites recently which would not be very friendly to Firefox.
a)The sites being the Air Sahara/Indiatimes auctions site. b) www.visa-services.com c) Indiapost.org (The pincode locator feature dies on detecting non IE)
Now, without taking the effort to get to a windows machine, are my chances of viewing those sites next to nil?
Side Question: Has anyone run the Galileo software (travel bookings) on linux?
Details about the sites not opened in Firefox. The Indiatimes auctions site gives this message at some point after going through 2 steps. "Error ! The current browser is either too old or too modern (usind DOM document structure)."
The www.visa-services.com site gives the message "this site is best viewed with IE so n so and above and 800x600 res. And nothing can be done. cant click ahead.
The Indiapost.org site (http://www.indiapost.org/Netscape/pinsearch1.asp) returns
Page not found error message from IIS and the url in the address bar changes to "http://www.indiapost.org/Netscape/pinsearch2.asp"
So looks like they have a specific error message for netscape based browsers. So if I were to succeed in making my office windows free eventually, how would I be able to access the sites above and many such?
views comments feedback, appreciated as always.
Abhishek
Try Konqueror by changing it's browser id to IE Explorer. In most sites it works. You can also try giving feedback to webmaster@domain_name.
BTW, similar problems with Asian Age site - it requires IE for compatiblity with HTML4.01, CSS2 and JavaScript to correctly view their site!! I wonder in which world do their webmasters live - reminds of the ostrich that likes to hide it's head in the sand.
-- Arun Khan
Sometime on Apr 5, AK cobbled together some glyphs to say:
Try Konqueror by changing it's browser id to IE Explorer. In most
I recommend against doing this. The reason - their web logs show that more people visit the site using IE, which justifies their blocking other browsers.
Philip
The banking *product* developed and installed by my company supports only IE.
There was a query from a bank's customer whether they can use FireFox instead of IE because of security reasons. I was happy that he asked but sad that the product cannot.
FireFox is definitely getting popular. But companies think that they can do without supporting other browsers. I do popularise FireFox in the bank where I do implementation. Hope i wont be kicked out for this.
Arun Khan wrote:
BTW, similar problems with Asian Age site - it requires IE for compatiblity with HTML4.01, CSS2 and JavaScript to correctly view their site!! I wonder in which world do their webmasters live - reminds of the ostrich that likes to hide it's head in the sand.
I use sygate personal firewall in my win-box and that even records packets. This can be done even with other firewalls too that log traffic. To test the mischief level of any site, clear the logs and then visit the site. In many cases these sites connect to different urls along with their own. In most cases they are passing on our information to third parties for tracking visitors or for ads. Even a site like BBC World does that and if you leave your scripting on, it will place a java applet in your system to track you and pass on the info. to third parties. As a security measure I always use my browser in no script, no cookie, no sound, no video etc. mode. Only for certain sites I temporarily allow scripts for those sessions only. For logins, I use a different non-M$ browser reserved for this purpose. Netscape 7 has the feature to tweak your cookie traffic to the bare minimum and keep them for the session only. Now I am making my customers too follow this practice for better security. You can use the firewall method to track every new software that you try out.
Hosts:- This should be the same for linux too. In the 'hosts' file, keep a list of bad urls and next to each entry give the ip 127.0.0.1. This way whenever the site seeks an irritant from a bad url, it will be diverted to localhost (your own pc) which does not have this said irritant and so the browser moves on to the next download request in the web page. This list of bad urls is available by googling the net and updates are also available.
Regards,
Rony.
Abhishek Daga wrote:
Happened to come across a couple of sites recently which would not be very friendly to Firefox.
a)The sites being the Air Sahara/Indiatimes auctions site. b) www.visa-services.com c) Indiapost.org (The pincode locator feature dies on detecting non IE)
Add www.rediff.com to the list. Its Compose Mail page doesn't show certain features in Firefox. And Rediff Bol doesn't support Netscape/Opera/Firefox. I think they are fighting back against Firefox's popup blocker.
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 00:23, Abhishek Daga wrote:
Side Question: Has anyone run the Galileo software (travel bookings) on linux?
If you're talking about Galileo Focalpoint 3.5 (the most commonly used release of the Galileo desktop client), it does not work at all under Wine. YMMV - I last tried a couple of years ago, and Wine has evolved since then. I've had some success with Sabre for Windows, though - it works partially. I did not push too hard to make it work though, since Sabre's stated intention is to abandon their traditional desktop client paradigm and move purely to a web browser based solution (MySabre, which is a combination of ActiveX (ugh!) and Java).
Galileo (Cendant Corp.) is heavily wedded to the Windows platform. Even their SDK (XML Select) for accessing the Galileo back end is a pure Windows play, with no plans to release a UNIX/ Linux version.
You could always roll your own front end on Linux though, if you have developer access to Galileo Web Services.
HTH,
Krishnan
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