From: "Rajeev R. K." < rajeevrk@gmail.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers@mm.glug-bom.org > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:01:48 +0530 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Anyone interested in OpenMoko Mobile Phone
Interesting. i've been looking at that phone already, the only problem being that i'm a cdma user. But i may buy the phone for my dad :) Do let me know once you have any further info
Regards Rajeev
Hi Rajeev,
Thanks for the reply. You might have noted that current release is Developer Version Release, it doesn't have stable OS and working applications. But with moderate hardware, its priced currently at 300$. I presume father would need a properly working phone. If you need fully working OpenMoko, you can wait till October and getter retail version at 450$ with better hardware or even you can get Linux based Motorola ROKR E6 currently at INR 14000/- with 1 GB Card.
If you are interested in the developer version and jumping into upgrading OS in October, do let me know. I am happy with hardware that current model as its priced 300$, won't be interested in paying 450$ for little better hardware.
Anyone knows whether Linux on Motorola ROKR E6 is upgradeable? -- Keep Smiling and Mailing,
Regards, Saurabh
Hi,
On 8/10/07, Saurabh Mehta saurabhhome@gmail.com wrote:
it doesn't have stable OS and working applications.
Who said so?
SK
* http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
Currently it is not suitable for users.* The state of the software at the moment is pre-alpha. If you order a Neo1973, DO NOT expect to be able to use it as an everyday phone for several months.
On 8/10/07, Shakthi Kannan shakthimaan@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On 8/10/07, Saurabh Mehta saurabhhome@gmail.com wrote:
it doesn't have stable OS and working applications.
Who said so?
SK
-- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com
Hi,
On 8/10/07, Abhishek Amberkar abhishek.amberkar@gmail.com wrote:
Currently it is not suitable for users.* The state of the software at the moment is pre-alpha.
That is correct as per the wiki. That's not what I asked.
On 8/10/07, Saurabh Mehta saurabhhome@gmail.com wrote:
it doesn't have stable OS and working applications.
It does have a stable OS, and the basic applications that are shipped with the phone work.
It is quite stable, you can send SMS messages, you can make phone calls with the dialer, bluetooth works, the microSD card works, madplay works on the phone for listening to songs.
SK
On 11-Aug-07, at 12:27 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
It is quite stable, you can send SMS messages, you can make phone calls with the dialer, bluetooth works, the microSD card works, madplay works on the phone for listening to songs.
and before anyone starts arguing, note that Shakthi has one of the instruments with him.
Do you know all, you people talk much and don't do anything ...
On 8/10/07, Saurabh Mehta saurabhhome@gmail.com wrote:
From: "Rajeev R. K." < rajeevrk@gmail.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers@mm.glug-bom.org > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:01:48 +0530 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Anyone interested in OpenMoko Mobile Phone
Interesting. i've been looking at that phone already, the only problem being that i'm
a
cdma user. But i may buy the phone for my dad :) Do let me know once you have any further info
Regards Rajeev
Hi Rajeev,
Thanks for the reply. You might have noted that current release is Developer Version Release, it doesn't have stable OS and working applications. But with moderate hardware, its priced currently at 300$. I presume father would need a properly working phone. If you need fully working OpenMoko, you can wait till October and getter retail version at 450$ with better hardware or even you can get Linux based Motorola ROKR E6 currently at INR 14000/- with 1 GB Card.
If you are interested in the developer version and jumping into upgrading OS in October, do let me know. I am happy with hardware that current model as its priced 300$, won't be interested in paying 450$ for little better hardware.
Anyone knows whether Linux on Motorola ROKR E6 is upgradeable?
Keep Smiling and Mailing,
Regards, Saurabh
Rajeev,
Quoting Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com:
Do you know all, you people talk much and don't do anything ...
Alright this sounds cool, we have some action taker on the list. So what do you suggest Rajeev, what action can you do about the thread ? Start it, and let the list see what you have in your action box :)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
if I have to tell you ..what list suppose to do ..it becomes strange..still you want ..call me at my cell..
rajeev
On 8/10/07, Mitul Limbani mitul@enterux.com wrote:
Rajeev,
Quoting Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com:
Do you know all, you people talk much and don't do anything ...
Alright this sounds cool, we have some action taker on the list. So what do you suggest Rajeev, what action can you do about the thread ? Start it, and let the list see what you have in your action box :)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Rajeev,
Quoting Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com:
if I have to tell you ..what list suppose to do ..it becomes strange..still you want ..call me at my cell..
First things first, STOP TOP POSTING !!
Second thing, I am not here to call you on your cell.
Third, Dont imply anything to be done by list, if you are not happy with anything then you can start the change process, if ppl like it they would join you or else they will rant at you (be prepared to take all of it)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i hope mr moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the solution..changing the attitude is the solution..but with all the narrow thinking/posting i have seen in last 2 years..i don't think ..people are going to change their attitude here ..people are so rigid here with their thinking ..just feel strange . ...It's a LUG list ..just maintain the 10% of what all people talk here..only this 10% can make you best list of the country... Beside talking ..do something else..I have subscribed to many list ..but mumbai LUG list...WOW..never find such a useless list .. I love Linux because it's my passion ..I enjoy it ..because I like the freedom ..I live it because ..it's in my blood.. and I will love to be out of this list because I found it useless.and I don't care to make it right because there are so many list to enjoy, live,love and to learn ..
Learn something from this and do some creative work ..and please kick me out from here ..I will be thankfull..
Cheers no need to say ..only Rajeev can do it.. :-)
On 8/10/07, Mitul Limbani mitul@enterux.com wrote:
Rajeev,
Quoting Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com:
if I have to tell you ..what list suppose to do ..it becomes
strange..still
you want ..call me at my cell..
First things first, STOP TOP POSTING !!
Second thing, I am not here to call you on your cell.
Third, Dont imply anything to be done by list, if you are not happy with anything then you can start the change process, if ppl like it they would join you or else they will rant at you (be prepared to take all of it)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Hmm.. top posting a top post.
No one is going to kick you out (trust me, I tried it more than once), unless you really turn insane.. your best bet is to unsubscribe.
snippet from the headers.
List-Unsubscribe: http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers, mailto:linuxers-request@mm.glug-bom.org?subject=unsubscribe
Cheers, - dhawal
-----Original Message----- From: linuxers-bounces@mm.glug-bom.org [mailto:linuxers- bounces@mm.glug-bom.org] On Behalf Of Rajeev Sharma Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:41 AM To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Anyone interested in OpenMoko Mobile Phone
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i hope mr moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the solution..changing the attitude is the solution..but with all the narrow thinking/posting i have seen in last 2 years..i don't think ..people are going to change their attitude here ..people are so rigid here with their thinking ..just feel strange . ...It's a LUG list ..just maintain the 10% of what all people talk here..only this 10% can make you best list of the country... Beside talking ..do something else..I have subscribed to many list ..but mumbai LUG list...WOW..never find such a useless list .. I love Linux because it's my passion ..I enjoy it ..because I like the freedom ..I live it because ..it's in my blood.. and I will love to be out of this list because I found it useless.and I don't care to make it right because there are so many list to enjoy, live,love and to learn ..
Learn something from this and do some creative work ..and please kick me out from here ..I will be thankfull..
Cheers no need to say ..only Rajeev can do it.. :-)
On 8/10/07, Mitul Limbani mitul@enterux.com wrote:
Rajeev,
Quoting Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com:
if I have to tell you ..what list suppose to do ..it becomes
strange..still
you want ..call me at my cell..
First things first, STOP TOP POSTING !!
Second thing, I am not here to call you on your cell.
Third, Dont imply anything to be done by list, if you are not happy with anything then you can start the change process, if ppl like it they would join you or else they will rant at you (be prepared to
take
all of it)
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
--
Rajeev Sharma
Quoting Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com:
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i hope mr moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the solution..changing the attitude is the solution..but with all the narrow thinking/posting i have seen in last 2 years..i don't think ..people are going to change their attitude here ..people are so rigid here with their thinking ..just feel strange . ...It's a LUG list ..just maintain the 10% of what all people talk here..only this 10% can make you best list of the country...
Do you mean the question of Top Posting? You do realise how much messy the list archives would become if list members did not trim, bottom/inline post the list messages, dont you?
Beside talking ..do something else..I have subscribed to many list ..but mumbai LUG list...WOW..never find such a useless list ..
We do have an active wiki, we do organise workshops, tutorials sessions, have BoFs etc. Please put forward an idea and volunteer if possible for any activity you might have in mind.
Learn something from this and do some creative work ..and please kick me out from here ..I will be thankfull..
Learn something from what? I'll just say, we have a lot of people on the list contributing really innovative work back to the foss world. Please stop ranting.
Anurag
On 8/11/07, Rajeev Sharma rajeev1@gmail.com wrote:
moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the solution..changing the attitude is the solution..but with all the narrow thinking/posting i have seen in last 2 years..i don't think ..people are going to change their attitude here ..people are so rigid here with their
In what way should our (collective?) attitudes change?
thinking ..just feel strange . ...It's a LUG list ..just maintain the 10% of what all people talk here..only this 10% can make you best list of the country...
Which 10%?
Beside talking ..do something else..I have subscribed to many list ..but
How do you know everyone's only talking?
I love Linux because it's my passion ..I enjoy it ..because I like the freedom ..I live it because ..it's in my blood.. and I will love to be out of this list because I found it useless.and I don't care to make it right because there are so many list to enjoy, live,love and to learn ..
*Sniff* *weep*... passionate talk... just like in the movies...
Learn something from this and do some creative work ..and please kick me
From what, a pointless rant?
At least you can see (I hope) from my reply that quoting relevant sections of your question and replying actually makes it easier to read and follow.
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Rajeev Sharma wrote:
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i hope mr moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the solution..changing the attitude is the solution..
Its not a rule that you should not top post, but its an attitude to make it easier for others to follow what is the context you are talking about.
but with all the narrow thinking/posting i have seen in last 2 years..i don't think ..people are going to change their attitude here ..people are so rigid here with their thinking ..just feel strange . ...It's a LUG list ..just maintain the
10% of
what all people talk here..only this 10% can make you best list of the country...
In a mailing list, there are many kind of people and each tries to put his point. But not all will be ready to accept whatever some one says.
Beside talking ..do something else..I have subscribed to many list ..but mumbai LUG list...WOW..never find such a useless list ..
You have full freedom to unsubscribe if you feel this is a useless list. Its just a mail away.
I love Linux because it's my passion ..I enjoy it ..because I like the freedom ..I live it because ..it's in my blood.. and I will love to be out of this list because I found it useless.and I don't care to make it right because there are so many list to enjoy, live,love and to learn ..
Blah blah blah blah...
Learn something from this and do some creative work ..and please kick me out from here ..I will be thankfull..
The door is wide open, the freedom is given to enter and exit ;)
- -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak
[webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india)
On 11-Aug-07, at 8:59 AM, Parthan S R wrote:
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i hope mr moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the solution..changing the attitude is the solution..
Its not a rule that you should not top post
it *is* a rule
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Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 11-Aug-07, at 8:59 AM, Parthan S R wrote:
Its not a rule that you should not top post
it *is* a rule
Clarification sought : AFAIK, no top-posting is in the mailing list guidelines/etiquettes (http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List_Etiquettes). Is guidelines and etiquettes == rules ?
If so, what is the counter measure if they are not followed ?
- -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak
[webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india)
On 11-Aug-07, at 10:07 AM, Parthan S R wrote:
guidelines and etiquettes == rules ?
If so, what is the counter measure if they are not followed ?
peer pressure
On 11-Aug-07, at 10:07 AM, Parthan S R wrote:
(http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List_Etiquettes). Is guidelines and etiquettes == rules ?
you are looking in the wrong place:
http://www.glug-bom.org/Data/Objects/M/MailingListGuidelines/viewObject
On 8/11/07, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
http://www.glug-bom.org/Data/Objects/M/MailingListGuidelines/viewObject
Oops, duplicate post while talking about list guidelines ;)
On 8/11/07, Parthan S R parth.technofreak@gmail.com wrote:
Clarification sought : AFAIK, no top-posting is in the mailing list guidelines/etiquettes (http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List_Etiquettes). Is guidelines and etiquettes == rules ?
Those are etiquettes apparently ripped from the FedoraProject wiki; *These* are the original list guidelines:
http://www.glug-bom.org/Data/Objects/M/MailingListGuidelines/viewObject
Shouldn't we be wikifying the original guidelines instead of lifting it from FedoraProject?
On 11-Aug-07, at 10:46 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
Those are etiquettes apparently ripped from the FedoraProject wiki; *These* are the original list guidelines:
it should be 'etiquette' no 's'
http://www.glug-bom.org/Data/Objects/M/MailingListGuidelines/ viewObject
Shouldn't we be wikifying the original guidelines instead of lifting it from FedoraProject?
yes - the page should either be linked or pasted in the wiki
Parthan S R wrote:
Its not a rule that you should not top post
it *is* a rule
Clarification sought : AFAIK, no top-posting is in the mailing list guidelines/etiquettes (http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List_Etiquettes). Is
Read Section 3.1.1 http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Netiquette_Guidelines_(RFC1855)
--- Parthan S R parth.technofreak@gmail.com wrote:
Rajeev Sharma wrote:
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i
hope mr
moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the
Come on guys, surely you all realize that rajeev is an obvious and deliberate troll. Why fall for such baits time and again?
and Parthan S R is just a troll feeder. Imagine arguing that a list "guideline" cannot be considered a "Rule". sheesh!
-abhishek
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Abhishek Daga wrote:
--- Parthan S R parth.technofreak@gmail.com wrote:
Rajeev Sharma wrote:
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless list} i
hope mr
moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the
Come on guys, surely you all realize that rajeev is an obvious and deliberate troll. Why fall for such baits time and again?
and Parthan S R is just a troll feeder. Imagine arguing that a list "guideline" cannot be considered a "Rule". sheesh!
1. Why am I being quoted above for something which I did not say
2. I did not argue anything. I just wanted a clarification whether "no top posting" is a guideline or a rule, or in other words it should be strictly followed or just would be good if it is followed. If you want to call me anything, its your wish.
- -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak
[webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india)
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