Hi everybody, I am newbie to this group.let me introduce myself. I am Chetan Ingle working in Rolta india ltd as s/w engg.Working on advanced java and redhat linux.Well When after started working on linux I simply fall in luv with linux and now I fall in luv I don't wanna come back . So I want everything on linux. Well I just read message of Saswata Banerji,I think it's easy to migrate to linux so we can convince customer.I have over 2 years experience on linux and java where i have done same thing like migrating application to linux.The only thing we have to do is give good technical support to customer after migration.Once we do for one customer then remaining customers will be convinced automatically.
let me know ur views too.
Regards, Chetan Ingle
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Message: 1 From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" scrap@saswatabanerjee.com To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:28:24 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
Connected with the same topic actually,
If we manage to convince one of our clients to move at least partially to linux, how can ILUG help them ?
I am talking about companies falling between small and mid-sized companies in service industry. Say with 150-200 people working for them ? Can we promise such people help in moving to Linux and help in solving problems that they face ?
Companies like these are not the ones who can use help from usenet or such things.
I have been telling my clients that Linux is a good platform to move to, specially since it does not make sense to pay huge amounts for official windows software. I have also told them that the platform is very stable, meaning that once installed, unless you fiddle with things, it will work trouble free for years. But they are still worried about whether they will be able to cope up with problems that they may face. (Neither can they afford to have expensive tech-support contracts)
Regards Saswata
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Message: 2 From: "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:51:33 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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From: "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
market share in desktop environment. The entire core of
dotnet strategy
is
to move things away from the desktop / client and move the
processing to
the server
These days are too far. The people at Sun thought about the
Network
Computer
and burnt their hands.
Sometimes I use connection speeds where even the K is absent
;).
DotNet was thougth out and designed when the DotCom boom was
at its crest
and every one was saying the all corporate will move to ASP
(Application
Service Provider) model of computing. The dotnet strategy
could, obviously
not be changed at this stage though the dotcom boom ended, so
its features
are still there waiting for the time when it will be
implemented. Till then,
it will only serve to further bloat windows software.
The ASP model in general was a failure how many more dot-com companies do we need to prove that.
As for Network Computer, I think one hand it was badly
marketed, and on the
other hand, there was very little benefit of moving to that
platform. The
savings at each client was minimum and that power demand
requirement added
on the server side was too much. Sun based its NC strategy
on
"Anit-Microsoft" platform rather on user needs and benefits.
The NC seems promising even today. But then lets wait for IBM to eat Sun ;). Maybe then it will be more valid.
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
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Message: 3 From: "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:11:45 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
Connected with the same topic actually,
If we manage to convince one of our clients to move at least
partially to
linux, how can ILUG help them ?
Maybe we should try this area as well. What say people. The best way to prove your ability is by DOING IT.
I am talking about companies falling between small and
mid-sized companies
in service industry. Say with 150-200 people working for them
? Can we
promise such people help in moving to Linux and help in
solving problems
that they face ?
*snip*
I am thinking of starting a Consulting company that will do only GNU/Linux and M$ to GNU/Linux migration. And I am looking for willing customers...
Saswata where can I get in touch with you regarding this?
Warm wishes,
Amol Hatwar.
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Message: 4 From: "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:06:54 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
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From: "Amol Hatwar" rollacosta@phreaker.net To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
The term .NET is confusing, you are refering to the passport
and other
services. Speaking technically correctly .NET is an
initiative... that
promises a lot of things. The Linux/Windows interoperability
that I am
talking of here is one of them.
DotNet is not just a strategy, it is also a family of
products. It includes *snip* Right on... the products are to implement the strategy... and the strategy as I see it will ultimately evolve to hoodwink the users.
The move to port dotnet to linux platform is another
version of the same
Like I said .NET is NOT a product that you install... its
an initiative...
comprising of a multitude of products and services.
Porting... is some
other
question.
I was refering to the DotNet Server Software and the DotNet
Framework
including Microsoft Intermediate Language. These will ensure
that all
software designed for running on the dotnet server and those
made with
Microsoft Visual Studio .Net RAD tools will work on linux.
Right on again... M$ wants to reap from the Linux market as well. Thats because they know they're strong on desktop products.... the M$ Office Suite for instance. They want to sell that to Linux users too. Its like a dual strategy. They want to replace our applications and then our OS as well.
hedging......in case linux becomes more popular on the
server front,
software designed on dotnet platform will run even if the
server is
running
linux, and the desktops are windows. Believe me, they will
finalise and
complete the codes to production level only if linux
becomes too popular
at server level.......Otherwise, it will remain
"experimental"
Which OS do you think has the upperhand in server markets
now? :D
True, Linux has a lead in the server market, specially in
large and very
large applications, webservers, etc. But Windows is catching
on faster than
you realise. Futher, dont forget that there is another fast
growing server
market, which is servers used by (small, medium and large%2
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chetan v ingle