noel seq spewed into the ether:
I would like to know what are the licences that i will have to purchase. Can i install Linux from my chip cd / PCQ cd which i have with me. Will i have to purchase a cd for my co as well as my sister co.
Yes. you can use PCQL, or the chip CD. One CD set will be enough. You don't need to buy additional CDs.
AS of now i am using linux installed from PCQ cd on my terminal and on my proxy, mail server.
Also, I need some advice for the programs that i will need to replace my mail client, browser, etc, how to use foxpro under linux, etc.
Mail clients: Kmail, Mutt, Netscape Mail, Mozilla mail, Balsa, Pine, ....... Browsers: Netscape, Konqueror, Lynx, Links, Mozilla, Opera, ........
Dunno about Foxpro, maybe you will have to use DOSemu. Or you could change to a full fledged database like Postgres/MySQL.
Devdas Bhagat -- Its impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
Thanks in advance.
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More on licensing... Maybe our FreeOS friends will answer, maybe the other Linux retailers will...
If I can duplicate a Linux CD (or install it on as many machines as I like) without restrictions, how do/can/dare the Linux OS vendors charge for their software.
* Red hat sells a version (I think 6.22 high availability) for $2000 that is steep. If I can duplicate Linux can I duplicate this one too? If so Can I (hypothetically of course) start a store that sells copies of this Red hat $2000 software for $1000?
* Also Caldera (I think its them) just released a 'Single Machine License' that says you need to have one caldera license per machine. How can they do that?
Anyone got answers?
PS: If you say that some components are not GPl hence the price for the box, can I remove the non-GPL (or more importantly non-'Free') components, and then duplicate and sell a slightly crippled box, in my Hypothetical store?
-Vaibhav
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Sometime Today, Vaibhav Arya assembled some asciibets to say:
If I can duplicate a Linux CD (or install it on as many machines as I like) without restrictions, how do/can/dare the Linux OS vendors charge for their software.
They don't. They charge for support and service. They also charge for the cost of the CD, and the cost of writing to the CD.
- Red hat sells a version (I think 6.22 high availability) for $2000
that is steep. If I can duplicate Linux can I duplicate this one too? If so Can I (hypothetically of course) start a store that sells copies of this Red hat $2000 software for $1000?
Yes you can. You can also duplicate it for $3000 if you want. What you cannot duplicate is the user manual that comes with RedHat. You can offer your own support, but you cannot get RedHat to provide support for your customers.
- Also Caldera (I think its them) just released a 'Single Machine
License' that says you need to have one caldera license per machine.
The licence is not for the linux/GPL'ed software, but for Caldera's add ons. They can charge anything they want for stuff that they have written. They can also charge anything they want for stuff other people have written (the GPL allows this), but they have to release the source code at *no extra charge*.
Understand what this means. Regardless of what the software costs, if the user has purchased the software (at $0 possibly), then he is entitled to the source code at no extra cost.
If the user has not purchased the software, but only wants the source code, he must pay the full price of the software for it.
PS: If you say that some components are not GPl hence the price for the box, can I remove the non-GPL (or more importantly non-'Free')
That is not the entire reason. For example, Yast (from SuSE) is not GPLed, but you can redistribute it with copies of SuSE. You just don't get the source - ever.
components, and then duplicate and sell a slightly crippled box, in my Hypothetical store?
Yes.
Philip
Sometime today, Vaibhav Arya wrote:
If I can duplicate a Linux CD (or install it on as many machines as I like) without restrictions, how do/can/dare the Linux OS vendors charge for their software.
How _do_ they charge? - Because they have the right to.
How _can_ the charge? - Because they simply can.
How _dare_ they charge? - You mean what?
- Red hat sells a version (I think 6.22 high availability) for
$2000 that is steep. If I can duplicate Linux can I duplicate this one too? If so Can I (hypothetically of course) start a store that sells copies of this Red hat $2000 software for $1000?
For an example, I'll say that Microsoft can buy one copy of RH and sell duplicates all over the world for $0. Or maybe they'll even pay people to take it. Howzzzat?! :)
Do you think M$ will ever do that? ;)
- Also Caldera (I think its them) just released a 'Single
Machine License' that says you need to have one caldera license per machine. How can they do that?
Software is licenced to the user who uses it. When you obtain RH, the license allows you to make copies of the s/w, but the licence applies to all copies. In the above case, I am not sure whether you have to go out of your way to _obtain_ a licence if you install on a new machine. But in the case of RedHat, the licence is attached to every copy of the software, so you don't need to _obtain_ it separately. In fact, if you are making copies yourself, it is your responsibilty to distribute those copies under the same licence as the original (i. e. GPL).
PS: If you say that some components are not GPl hence the price for the box, can I remove the non-GPL (or more importantly non-'Free') components, and then duplicate and sell a slightly crippled box, in my Hypothetical store?
Yes you can. You are allowed to sell GPL s/w that way. You can.
Manish
Hi Guys,
1. I want to install Debian, RedHat, Suse & FreeBSD on the same machine. How should I go about achieveing this?
50M /boot 3000 /redhat 4000 /suse 3000 /debian 2500 /freebsd
I want to write an article about the /etc/rc.d/ dir & variances in the structure in diff. distros.
Thanks in advance.
Navin Dhanuka
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----- Original Message ----- From: Navin Dhanuka navin_dhanuka@yahoo.com Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Installing more than one linux distro on a machine.
I want to write an article about the /etc/rc.d/ dir & variances in the
structure in diff. distros.
Thanks in advance.
Navin Dhanuka
cool.. just a suggestion - while you're at it, why dont you write a snippet on their variance from the FHS....(Filesystem Hierarchy Standard).
regards, kishor
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They charge for the support/manuals/etc. They can charge license fees if they have two different versions of their software, one released under GPL and the other released under some closed license.
Regards Prakash
Vaibhav Arya wrote:
More on licensing... Maybe our FreeOS friends will answer, maybe the other Linux retailers will...
If I can duplicate a Linux CD (or install it on as many machines as I like) without restrictions, how do/can/dare the Linux OS vendors charge for their software.
- Red hat sells a version (I think 6.22 high availability) for $2000 that is
steep. If I can duplicate Linux can I duplicate this one too? If so Can I (hypothetically of course) start a store that sells copies of this Red hat $2000 software for $1000?
- Also Caldera (I think its them) just released a 'Single Machine License'
that says you need to have one caldera license per machine. How can they do that?
Anyone got answers?
PS: If you say that some components are not GPl hence the price for the box, can I remove the non-GPL (or more importantly non-'Free') components, and then duplicate and sell a slightly crippled box, in my Hypothetical store?
-Vaibhav
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