Hi,
I am in the market for a new PDA. I've been using a Handspring Visor for the last several years but it's now really falling apart :(. Initially I used to sync it to linux using coldsync + conduits but later found jpilot and things were really cool. Two way sync was a dream.
I presently also have a Sharp Zaurus 5500 but with openzaurus gone and angstrom developers not really interested in developing for the 5500, I have been looking at stuff on the net and can't really make up my mind.
I need the following:
Sync - both ways with a _linux desktop_ natively. This is essential. I'm willing to bust my chops setting it up the first time but I'd love to have a scenario where I just plug it in (or use wifi/bt) and it syncs.
Calender - with reminder
Contacts - with categories (this seems to nix the Nokia E51)
Password wallet - again essential, preferably something I can read on my desktop too. At present I am using gnukeyring, which is perfect for the job.
Ability to install other software - I have some medical books, and OTP generator amongst other things. Think kismet/wellenreiter.
Cross platform - I'd love to be able to have the ability to sync my _next_ pda/smartphone with this desktop software and not have to manually copy over all my stuff.
wifi/bt - either but both would be super.
I have looked at the Nokia E51, and seen openmoko on the net. Any other choces ? any gotchas ?
I have looked at opensync but it does not seem to be ready yet. I've looked at online sync services but I don't want to trust a 3rd party.
I am using kubuntu at present.
regards,
Sharukh.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.netwrote:
Hi,
I have looked at the Nokia E51, and seen openmoko on the net. Any other choces ? any gotchas ?
here are some devices that run on linux based os . http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html
do check desktop sync support before spending money as some of them dont have a very elegant UI for linux based desktops
hope this helps
I have looked at opensync but it does not seem to be ready yet. I've looked at online sync services but I don't want to trust a 3rd party.
I am using kubuntu at present.
regards,
Sharukh.
Dr. Sharukh K R Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. Anything is possible, unless it's not. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Harsh Busa wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. lists@pavri.netwrote:
Hi,
I have looked at the Nokia E51, and seen openmoko on the net. Any other choces ? any gotchas ?
here are some devices that run on linux based os . http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html
do check desktop sync support before spending money as some of them dont have a very elegant UI for linux based desktops
hope this helps
Thanks, I already went thru that page. I was actually looking at any personal experiences.
Sharukh.
On Friday 23 Jan 2009, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I need the following:
Been using the Motoming (Motorola A1200) for the past couple of years. Let's see which of these it has:
Sync - both ways with a _linux desktop_ natively. This is essential. I'm willing to bust my chops setting it up the first time but I'd love to have a scenario where I just plug it in (or use wifi/bt) and it syncs.
Yes.
Calender - with reminder
Yes.
Contacts - with categories (this seems to nix the Nokia E51)
Yes.
Password wallet - again essential, preferably something I can read on my desktop too. At present I am using gnukeyring, which is perfect for the job.
Yes, but needs to be installed separately.
Ability to install other software - I have some medical books, and OTP generator amongst other things. Think kismet/wellenreiter.
Yes.
Cross platform - I'd love to be able to have the ability to sync my _next_ pda/smartphone with this desktop software and not have to manually copy over all my stuff.
wifi/bt - either but both would be super.
BT: yes; WiFi: no.
Regards,
-- Raju
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Raj Mathur wrote:
On Friday 23 Jan 2009, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I need the following:
Been using the Motoming (Motorola A1200) for the past couple of years. Let's see which of these it has:
Sync - both ways with a _linux desktop_ natively. This is essential. I'm willing to bust my chops setting it up the first time but I'd love to have a scenario where I just plug it in (or use wifi/bt) and it syncs.
Yes.
Calender - with reminder
Yes.
Contacts - with categories (this seems to nix the Nokia E51)
Yes.
nice :)
Password wallet - again essential, preferably something I can read on my desktop too. At present I am using gnukeyring, which is perfect for the job.
Yes, but needs to be installed separately.
a link please :)
Ability to install other software - I have some medical books, and OTP generator amongst other things. Think kismet/wellenreiter.
Yes.
Cross platform - I'd love to be able to have the ability to sync my _next_ pda/smartphone with this desktop software and not have to manually copy over all my stuff.
wifi/bt - either but both would be super.
BT: yes; WiFi: no.
Regards,
-- Raju
Raj Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Thanks .
looking at http://wiki.kandalaya.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/MotorolaA1200 right now.
Sharukh
On Friday 23 Jan 2009, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Raj Mathur wrote: [snip]
Password wallet - again essential, preferably something I can read on my desktop too. At present I am using gnukeyring, which is perfect for the job.
Yes, but needs to be installed separately.
a link please :)
Well, the easiest thing to do is a search for j2me+wallet -- most J2ME apps work out of the box on the phone. The only ones that give problems are those that can't work without a keypad (the A1200 doesn't have a physical keypad). I personally don't use a wallet so can't recommend one.
Regards,
-- Raju
Hello Dr.,
I am a bit late in this thread since i haven't been reading the list for a few days, however, as a long time PDA user (starting from one of the earliest casio digital diaries, to casio PV, to a palm III, to a palm lifedrive to my present nokia n810), i feel your pain.
If you are looking for a good no hassle PDA, mainly for PIM purposes (like you listed) as opposed to a PIM+Media manager (for mp3s, video, ebooks, ...blah, blah), I would recommend getting a phone instead of a PDA. I have heard good things about the motoming, tho' i can't comment on it since I don't use it.
I also have heard good things about the Nokia E71.
Now, if you /do/ want a PIM+Media manager+a palm sized proper linux system, I'd suggest investing in a Nokia N810 (or the discontinued earlier version N800)
http://www.nseries.com/products/n810/#l=products,n810 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N810
These run Maemo desktop: http://maemo.org/
It *is* expensive, but you may find cheaper resale pieces on ebay. Also, once you have the n810, although you would be able to sync to linux natively (in fact you could also use the very same applications on your desktop as well as the pda -- the gpe suite[1]), you'd find it more convenient to sync to something like google calender if you so wish.
If you have questions, i'd glady answer them since i tend to use my n810 a lot.
regards, - steve
On Saturday 24 Jan 2009 5:23:40 pm steve wrote:
I also have heard good things about the Nokia E71.
E71 is a PDA? I thought it was a phone - I have one. I use it for navigation and mapping.
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, steve wrote:
Hello Dr.,
I am a bit late in this thread since i haven't been reading the list for a few days, however, as a long time PDA user (starting from one of the earliest casio digital diaries, to casio PV, to a palm III, to a palm lifedrive to my present nokia n810), i feel your pain.
I know what you're talking about I started off using the tiny credit card sized thingy from casio, then came one of the bigger _64 kb_ :) clamshell, them a Palm 100, then a Handspring visor with a then biggest addon of 8 mb memory (which is still almost half empty). This was followed by a Sharp Zaurus 5500 but it has lousy battery life.
If you are looking for a good no hassle PDA, mainly for PIM purposes (like you listed) as opposed to a PIM+Media manager (for mp3s, video, ebooks, ...blah, blah), I would recommend getting a phone instead of a PDA. I have heard good things about the motoming, tho' i can't comment on it since I don't use it.
I somehow don't like the motorola phones, doing a bluetooth transfer or pairing has always been a pita (I'm talking about the L6, L7, Razr and Rokr.) Nokia has always been much more user friendly - ymmv. I am looking at pinching my wife's E51 to fiddle around with for a few days :).
I also have heard good things about the Nokia E71.
Now, if you /do/ want a PIM+Media manager+a palm sized proper linux system, I'd suggest investing in a Nokia N810 (or the discontinued earlier version N800)
http://www.nseries.com/products/n810/#l=products,n810 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N810
wow -- I'm looking at it right now.
These run Maemo desktop: http://maemo.org/
It *is* expensive, but you may find cheaper resale pieces on ebay. Also, once you have the n810, although you would be able to sync to linux natively (in fact you could also use the very same applications on your desktop as well as the pda -- the gpe suite[1]), you'd find it more convenient to sync to something like google calender if you so wish.
If you have questions, i'd glady answer them since i tend to use my n810 a lot.
Like I said, a wallet program and the ability to install any program I may need to. Said programs need not be free as in beer. Anyway maemo is based on good old debian so I'm sure there will be tons of software available. What comes to mind are mutt, gpg, kismet...
regards,
- steve
regards,
Sharukh.
If you have questions, i'd glady answer them since i tend to use my n810 a lot.
Like I said, a wallet program and the ability to install any program I may need to. Said programs need not be free as in beer. Anyway maemo is based on good old debian so I'm sure there will be tons of software available. What comes to mind are mutt, gpg, kismet...
Right ! You may browse through some of the available maemo software here:
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/ http://www.gronmayer.com/it/
Specifically -- wallet - http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/security/ calender - http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/office-business/ (note that don't be turned off by the lack of screenshots on the page, the GPE suite of applications are marvellous. Screenshots are here: http://gpe.handhelds.org/
Another thing i'd like to mention is, unlike what you may have experienced with other devices, in maemo, the default applications that come loaded as part of the OS are good enough that you don't have to look for alternatives. Case in point -- although Evince is available, I find the default PDF reader much better suited. Also, although a whole bunch of mail clients are available, the default one is very suitable.
HTH, - steve
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, steve wrote:
If you have questions, i'd glady answer them since i tend to use my n810 a lot.
Like I said, a wallet program and the ability to install any program I may need to. Said programs need not be free as in beer. Anyway maemo is based on good old debian so I'm sure there will be tons of software available. What comes to mind are mutt, gpg, kismet...
Right ! You may browse through some of the available maemo software here:
Yes I already spent almost an hour going thru the list of software here.
looking at it now.
Specifically -- wallet - http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/security/ calender - http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/office-business/ (note that don't be turned off by the lack of screenshots on the page, the GPE suite of applications are marvellous. Screenshots are here: http://gpe.handhelds.org/
site is under upgrade and links not working.
Another thing i'd like to mention is, unlike what you may have experienced with other devices, in maemo, the default applications that come loaded as part of the OS are good enough that you don't have to look for alternatives. Case in point -- although Evince is available, I find the default PDF reader much better suited. Also, although a whole bunch of mail clients are available, the default one is very suitable.
HTH,
- steve
maybe we should take this off list.
regards,
Sharukh.
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