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I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Amiya
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On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Amiya Sahoo amiya17igit@gmail.com wrote:
GNU/Linux,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Amiya
Just goes to show the world is full of fools. Thanks for revealing your password to a untrusted site. I hope your machine gets slammed with some virus that destroys all data. And I really hope your prospective professional employer sees this this post of mine and that leaves you perennial unemployed.
Thank you so much for spamming atleast a 1000 people and *my* inbox. This post along with your proof of stupidity will be etched in the www's cache indefinitely. The longer it stays the better it is. I hope your potential employer sees how foolish you can be to reveal your password to an untrusted, third party website without giving it a second thought. This defeats your whole purpose of registering on linkedin :)
Have a nice day!
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 11:55, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Amiya Sahoo amiya17igit@gmail.com
wrote:
GNU/Linux,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Amiya
Just goes to show the world is full of fools. Thanks for revealing your password to a untrusted site. I hope your machine gets slammed with some virus that destroys all data. And I really hope your prospective professional employer sees this this post of mine and that leaves you perennial unemployed.
Thank you so much for spamming atleast a 1000 people and *my* inbox. This post along with your proof of stupidity will be etched in the www's cache indefinitely. The longer it stays the better it is. I hope your potential employer sees how foolish you can be to reveal your password to an untrusted, third party website without giving it a second thought. This defeats your whole purpose of registering on linkedin :)
Have a nice day!
+ a thoroughly rotten lifetime.
A good -ve check would be to reject all bozos who register on linkleaden whatever.
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Amiya Sahoo amiya17igit@gmail.com wrote:
GNU/Linux,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Amiya
Just goes to show the world is full of fools. Thanks for revealing your password to a untrusted site.
What makes you think he gave his password to LinkedIn ? He just exported his address book and uploaded it to the site. So he gave your email Id to a potential spam list without endangering his own security. The Linked In server sent the original mail spoofed as the member's email id so that it will go through filters like this.
The interesting thing is that while there is an agreement (in LinkedIn privacy policy) not to sell his email id to a spammer, there is nothing that prevents LinkedIn from selling your id to the spammer. An interesting view that I had not considered till I got this email.
I hope your machine gets slammed with some virus that destroys all data. And I really hope your prospective professional employer sees this this post of mine and that leaves you perennial unemployed.
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Thank you so much for spamming atleast a 1000 people and *my* inbox. This post along with your proof of stupidity will be etched in the www's cache indefinitely. The longer it stays the better it is. I hope your potential employer sees how foolish you can be to reveal your password to an untrusted, third party website without giving it a second thought. This defeats your whole purpose of registering on linkedin :)
No such luck
Have a nice day!
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Amiya Sahoo amiya17igit@gmail.com wrote:
GNU/Linux,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Amiya
Just goes to show the world is full of fools. Thanks for revealing your password to a untrusted site.
What makes you think he gave his password to LinkedIn ? He just exported his address book and uploaded it to the site. So he gave your email Id to a potential spam list without endangering his own security. The Linked In server sent the original mail spoofed as the member's email id so that it will go through filters like this.
( *CAUTION* *TO* *ALL* *GLUGGERS:* Please do not even experiment the process with the email id you use for this list )
Have you created an account on Linkedin without having to reveal the original password for the email id that is used as the username as well as prevent them from snooping into your contacts list? If so, your tips could help others from making mistakes like using their original email password.
However from the link provided by the OP, I was taken to a login page asking me for an email id as username and a password. I checked out the join today link for new users and there they ask for an email id and password. The privacy terms also state that among the information they will collect will be the email id and a password. For some reason they are not clear about the password, if it is the original or another one for the linkedin site. That is a gray area.
The interesting thing is that while there is an agreement (in LinkedIn privacy policy) not to sell his email id to a spammer, there is nothing that prevents LinkedIn from selling your id to the spammer. An interesting view that I had not considered till I got this email.
I hope your machine gets slammed with some virus that destroys all data. And I really hope your prospective professional employer sees this this post of mine and that leaves you perennial unemployed.
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work. I have seen such guys in different offices.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance ...
I think what you are talking is - nonsense too.
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 21:25:41 Rony wrote:
doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work.
and why would anyone in his right mind do serious work? You only live once - have fun, enjoy.
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 21:25:41 Rony wrote:
doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work.
and why would anyone in his right mind do serious work? You only live once
- have fun, enjoy.
Very true! What can be a better source of joy than using company time and resources for fun and games.
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 19:43:13 Rony wrote:
and why would anyone in his right mind do serious work? You only
live
once - have fun, enjoy.
Very true! What can be a better source of joy than using company time and resources for fun and games.
a happy employee is a productive employee
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 19:43:13 Rony wrote:
and why would anyone in his right mind do serious work? You only
live
once - have fun, enjoy.
Very true! What can be a better source of joy than using company time and resources for fun and games.
a happy employee is a productive employee
As long as he is not producing viruses and spyware.
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
What makes you think he gave his password to LinkedIn ? He just exported his address book and uploaded it to the site. So he gave your email Id to a potential spam list without endangering his own security. The Linked In server sent the original mail spoofed as the member's email id so that it will go through filters like this.
( *CAUTION* *TO* *ALL* *GLUGGERS:* Please do not even experiment the process with the email id you use for this list )
Have you created an account on Linkedin without having to reveal the original password for the email id that is used as the username as well as prevent them from snooping into your contacts list? If so, your tips could help others from making mistakes like using their original email password.
However from the link provided by the OP, I was taken to a login page asking me for an email id as username and a password. I checked out the join today link for new users and there they ask for an email id and password. The privacy terms also state that among the information they will collect will be the email id and a password. For some reason they are not clear about the password, if it is the original or another one for the linkedin site. That is a gray area.
When you sign on to linked in, you give your email id (for them to send you mail and notification like we do on LUG) and to create a password that you will use to access Linkedin. Your email id is your user name and the password you create (for linkedin, not the password of your original email id) is used with that user name.
The interesting thing is that while there is an agreement (in LinkedIn privacy policy) not to sell his email id to a spammer, there is nothing that prevents LinkedIn from selling your id to the spammer. An interesting view that I had not considered till I got this email.
I hope your machine gets slammed with some virus that destroys all data. And I really hope your prospective professional employer sees this this post of mine and that leaves you perennial unemployed.
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work. I have seen such guys in different offices.
That is a stupid statement. Not something i expected from Rony. When i am in office, I am connected to internet all the time. To Facebook, Linkedin, Network2Connect, ecademy...... When i am out of office, out of town, I stay connected on data card, gprs, cdma phone, etc as i need to be connected. The only time i stay off is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion.
Security hazard is dependent on your habits, software, sensitisation to security risk, how important is your data. How long you are connected is immaterial. In 20 minutes, I can do more harm than someone else who is online for a month without stop.
And yes, even with linux, you can do all the stupid things that a windows user can do........look at people who are logged in as root or super user. And with a land line, without mobile connectivity i can do the same thing again. In fact, with mobile connectivity, the risk is lower as the bandwidth available is lower and most of the mobile software are comparatively secured (I think) as they are working with resource constraints. Incidentally, I use a palm phone, which has no virus (I dont load java on it). Similar with symbian.
Regards Saswata
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 13:37:13 Saswata Banerjee wrote:
The only time i stay off is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion.
strange! The only time I stay on is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion (I would die of boredom in a meeting otherwise.)
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work. I have seen such guys in different offices.
That is a stupid statement. Not something i expected from Rony. When i am in office, I am connected to internet all the time. To Facebook, Linkedin, Network2Connect, ecademy...... When i am out of office, out of town, I stay connected on data card, gprs, cdma phone, etc as i need to be connected. The only time i stay off is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion.
You are the boss but what about your employees. Are you paying them for using your company time and resources to network with their friends and relatives? I have to deal with such guys practically every few days when they complain of viruses and spyware. All because their employers do not follow and implement proper office discipline.
All I know is that LinkedIn / Facebook / whatever invitations to the list make for an interesting conversation. Good distraction when nothing much else is happening.
On 2/11/09, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work. I have seen such guys in different offices.
That is a stupid statement. Not something i expected from Rony. When i am in office, I am connected to internet all the time. To Facebook, Linkedin, Network2Connect, ecademy...... When i am out of office, out of town, I stay connected on data card, gprs, cdma phone, etc as i need to be connected. The only time i stay off is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion.
You are the boss but what about your employees. Are you paying them for using your company time and resources to network with their friends and relatives? I have to deal with such guys practically every few days when they complain of viruses and spyware. All because their employers do not follow and implement proper office discipline.
-- Regards,
Rony.
GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 06:22, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
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You are the boss but what about your employees. Are you paying them for using your company time and resources to network with their friends and relatives? I have to deal with such guys practically every few days when they complain of viruses and spyware. All because their employers do not follow and implement proper office discipline.
Hi all, FWIW it really depends on what your business/trade is. What if the job/work depends on social-networking. Perhaps its me but what I have seen/heard/experienced is that free software and social-networking goes hand-in-hand as is business and everything else.
-- Regards,
Rony.
GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.
shirish wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 06:22, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
<snipped>
You are the boss but what about your employees. Are you paying them for using your company time and resources to network with their friends and relatives? I have to deal with such guys practically every few days when they complain of viruses and spyware. All because their employers do not follow and implement proper office discipline.
Hi all, FWIW it really depends on what your business/trade is. What if the job/work depends on social-networking. Perhaps its me but what I have seen/heard/experienced is that free software and social-networking goes hand-in-hand as is business and everything else.
That is absolutely true. We encourage officers and managers to use social networking sites, for work and information. It is a source of a lot of information, queries, leads and business referrals. For example (and this topic is OT), for the launch of our new Joint Venture, Business Over Breakfast, people in my office sent about 1400 messages to people in the various social network sites to introduce the concept without having to spend huge money on advertisements. And we had to stay connected to the sites to be able to give prompt replies to any queries that would come from any of those 1400 people we started a converstaion with
-- Regards,
Rony.
GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.
On Wednesday 11 Feb 2009, Saswata Banerjee wrote:
[snip] That is absolutely true. We encourage officers and managers to use social networking sites, for work and information. It is a source of a lot of information, queries, leads and business referrals. For example (and this topic is OT), for the launch of our new Joint Venture, Business Over Breakfast, people in my office sent about 1400 messages to people in the various social network sites to introduce the concept without having to spend huge money on advertisements. And we had to stay connected to the sites to be able to give prompt replies to any queries that would come from any of those 1400 people we started a converstaion with
Are you sure all your officers and managers are clued about security and social engineering? Not speaking against the use of social networking per se, but it does have huge attendant risks, for example:
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/fulldisclosure/2009-02/0149.html
Regards,
-- Raju
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work. I have seen such guys in different offices.
That is a stupid statement. Not something i expected from Rony. When i am in office, I am connected to internet all the time. To Facebook, Linkedin, Network2Connect, ecademy...... When i am out of office, out of town, I stay connected on data card, gprs, cdma phone, etc as i need to be connected. The only time i stay off is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion.
You are the boss but what about your employees.
A reasonable amount of internet usage is allowed for all employees, and encouraged for managers. But anyone found to be misusing it will be in problem.
Are you paying them for using your company time and resources to network with their friends and relatives?
Social Network is not only for friends and relatives. It is also an important element of business. Even emails are used by people to send jokes to friends. Do you stop emails ?
I have to deal with such guys practically every few days when they complain of viruses and spyware. All because their employers do not follow and implement proper office discipline
Our employees are sensitised about risk of virus and malware. They are told not to download any software, widgets, etc. Ofcourse, having a linux environment makes it easier for us. but even at our client offices, where they have a windoes environment, virus probems have not taken place in the last 12 months or so.
Giving people internet access for the entire day and having them stay connected is not, in any way, making it more risky for the company
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Rony wrote:
Saswata Banerjee wrote:
Actually, potential employers will probably be looking at his being a LinkedIn member as a proof of how good, proactive he is and give him a job which you would not get as you are not connected enough (I assume you are not on linkedin........)
Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious work. I have seen such guys in different offices.
That is a stupid statement. Not something i expected from Rony. When i am in office, I am connected to internet all the time. To Facebook, Linkedin, Network2Connect, ecademy...... When i am out of office, out of town, I stay connected on data card, gprs, cdma phone, etc as i need to be connected. The only time i stay off is when I have work to do, or in an important meeting or discussion.
You are the boss but what about your employees.
A reasonable amount of internet usage is allowed for all employees, and encouraged for managers. But anyone found to be misusing it will be in problem.
Are you paying them for using your company time and resources to network with their friends and relatives?
Social Network is not only for friends and relatives. It is also an important element of business. Even emails are used by people to send jokes to friends. Do you stop emails ?
In your case it may be necessary for your employees to network on the net but otherwise it is misused many a times once the boss is not around or looking. As a computer doctor, I get to see different types of usage and problems related to it. The problem gets compounded if different people work on the same machine. They blame each other.
Many companies do not allow net access to all. There is a guy I know who works for an International Computer brand and the laptops provided to them by the company are secured from the CMOS level and they cannot go to any other site except the company's VPN.
I have to deal with such guys practically every few days when they complain of viruses and spyware. All because their employers do not follow and implement proper office discipline
Our employees are sensitised about risk of virus and malware. They are told not to download any software, widgets, etc. Ofcourse, having a linux environment makes it easier for us. but even at our client offices, where they have a windoes environment, virus probems have not taken place in the last 12 months or so.
They must be enforcing strict rules for net usage.
Giving people internet access for the entire day and having them stay connected is not, in any way, making it more risky for the company
It is risky at least for doze machines, unless the company has some strong filters setup for the net content.
On Thursday 12 February 2009 21:10:53 Rony wrote:
Many companies do not allow net access to all. There is a guy I know who works for an International Computer brand and the laptops provided to them by the company are secured from the CMOS level and they cannot
go
to any other site except the company's VPN.
must be some north korean or chinese company ;-)
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Thursday 12 February 2009 21:10:53 Rony wrote:
Many companies do not allow net access to all. There is a guy I know who works for an International Computer brand and the laptops provided to them by the company are secured from the CMOS level and they cannot
go
to any other site except the company's VPN.
must be some north korean or chinese company ;-)
:-) No it is a well known American giant.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Thursday 12 February 2009 21:10:53 Rony wrote:
Many companies do not allow net access to all. There is a guy I know who works for an International Computer brand and the laptops provided to them by the company are secured from the CMOS level and they cannot
go
to any other site except the company's VPN.
must be some north korean or chinese company ;-)
:-) No it is a well known American giant.
Just out of curiosity - which OS do they run on these secure laptops?
Regards, Mohan S N
Mohan Nayaka wrote:
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On Thursday 12 February 2009 21:10:53 Rony wrote:
Many companies do not allow net access to all. There is a guy I know who works for an International Computer brand and the laptops provided to them by the company are secured from the CMOS level and they cannot
go
to any other site except the company's VPN.
must be some north korean or chinese company ;-)
:-) No it is a well known American giant.
Just out of curiosity - which OS do they run on these secure laptops?
Doze.
On Thursday 12 February 2009 21:35:24 Rony wrote:
must be some north korean or chinese company ;-)
:-) No it is a well known American giant.
most american giants are now chinese owned
:-) No it is a well known American giant.
most american giants are now chinese owned
You mean Intel, Microchip, Motorola, Boeing, Microsoft, Apple and many more are owned by chinese?
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd. 10/1 IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur -440022 India. Web site - http://betacomp.com
Meet us at our Booth 10.1 A09 , CHINAPLAS 2009 , May 18 - 21, 2009, Pazhou Complex, Gaungzhou, CHINA.
On Friday 13 February 2009 10:15, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
:-) No it is a well known American giant.
most american giants are now chinese owned
You mean Intel, Microchip, Motorola, Boeing, Microsoft, Apple and many more are owned by chinese?
I think he meant chinese cloned.
The americans own the air and mind waves. Otherwise we would all be buying chinese designed processors and saving tons of money.
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd. 10/1 IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur -440022 India. Web site - http://betacomp.com
Meet us at our Booth 10.1 A09 , CHINAPLAS 2009 , May 18 - 21, 2009, Pazhou Complex, Gaungzhou, CHINA.
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