Linuxers July 2001

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] help for linux beginer
by Nikhil Karkera 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

------------- Original Message -------------- ketan shah <coolketone(a)yahoo.com> wrote: i have just started with linux but i don't know what are the various commands and their use so is there any good book or some tutorial which will help me. ---------------- End ------------------------ If you are looking for a book in hard copy then "Shell Programming in Unix" by Yashwant Kanetkar is a good place to start. This book is however about Unix and not GNU/Linux, so it will only serve the purpose of shell commands, learning vi, and ofcourse shell programming. I think the book will cost you about Rs.175/= But you can always find many many tutorials on the Net. These will be a good place to know about commands. To further learn about them, the man pages should be sufficient. Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ http://www.monsterindia.com - The Best Jobs. For the Best Minds.

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Memory problems [was: Pls suggest some lightweight desktop]
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Philip wrote: >Add free buffers to free memory to get actual values. Therefore, your >free is 32, not 1. This makes sense. The kernel allocates all free >memory to buffers and cache, because there's no sense in leaving it >unused. If you have 32 MB free memory, then what was the point in >buying it? When any program requires memory, it will be allocated from >the buffers. As long as the swap is practically empty, your system is making optimum use of the memory ... the more physical RAM that you throw at the system, the more it is going to fill it up with stuff hoping to make optimum use of available resources. If the RAM is inadequate, one strategy the system will use is to cut back on the amount of memory allocated to processes, by loading lesser number of pages from each process. It all has to do with virtual memory management ... SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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India's contribution to Linux
by Srikanth R P 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Dear Friends, This is Srikanth RP from Express Computer, an IT business news magazine from the Indian Express group. As I am planning an article on 'India's contribution to Linux', I would like your views on the same. Please spare some time to answer the following questions. 1. Why do you think Linux is important to India? 2. Have Indians contributed to the growth of Linux? Can you mention some names or examples? Have any Indians contributed to the development of the Kernel? 3. What do you think about the Linux movement in India? What is the current scenario? Why companies like IBM are keen on promoting Linux? 4. Has the Indian government showing a keen interest in Linux ? Can you mention some names and examples? 5. Do you know of any companies in India who have developed applications for the Linux platform? 6. What do you think should be done to promote the growth of Linux in India? Thanks and regards, Srikanth RP Reporter Express Computer Srikanth RP ____________________________________________________ Buy Feng Shui Package for Rs. 151/- only, at http://shopping.rediff.com/shopping/fengshui_mailer.htm

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lpr
by Raju Bathija 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Hi, Can someone suggest a solution for this lpr problem. When lpr command is given, lpq gives the following error message: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ no space on remote; waiting for queue to drain ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The machine through which the printer is connected is using Red Hat 7.0 and uses LPRing and the machine from where print command is given uses Red Hat 6.1 and uses lpr. Both the machines have more than 100 MB space free in / partition. The printing used to work fine a few days ago. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raju Bathija | bathija(a)tifr.res.in | http://theory.tifr.res.in/~bathija -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux, the choice | Clay's Conclusion: Creativity is great, of a GNU generation -o) | but plagiarism is faster. Kernel 2.2.14-5. /\ | on a i686 _\_v | |

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Sendmail conf problems
by Dasi Satish 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Dear Linuxers, Please help me out with this. I have configured Sendmail as my mail server and have also installed imap. My problem is that i am able to send mail from my mail clients like Messenger but my incoming mail is handled by the linux system not my mail client. Please tell me as to how to disable this so that my Mail Clients are able to send and receive mail. Thanx in advance. Satish

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] help for linux beginer
by Nikhil Karkera 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

------------- Original Message -------------- "Navin" <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> wrote: The Unix Programming Environment - Kernighan & Pike.. Shell Programming.. - Kanetkar.. The second book must be available on every leading computer book shop. The first book is the best book & can be said as an authority for Newbees. Around 360 pages, but its rare, so you can xerox it from me (if u want). Xeroxing at Mitibai costs 0.25 @page so it 90/- & for spiral binding 25/-. ----------------- End ------------------------ I believe Xerox copying of (most) books is illegal. I know this is not an issue for GNU/Linux, but I guess its similar. There are laws about copying and distributing books. We've all copied books from friends at some point, but atleast let's not make it seem to be ok on a public list. And I guess the authors of the concerned book deserve the royalties anyway, if it indeed is such a good book :) Regards, Nikhil. ____________________________________________________ http://www.monsterindia.com - The Best Jobs. For the Best Minds.

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Re: Philip/Quasi/Link of articles
by Triptpal Singh Lamba 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Why increase the size of the digest/mails .. Could Philip pls. give us a link instead , unless I am not seeing some point he thought of. btw, neat idea Philip ...pls keep up the good work,helps newbies like me Regards, Triptpal Singh There is no chance, no fate, no destiny that can circumvent, or hinder, or control a firm resolve of a determined soul. ----- Original Message ----- > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:40:53 +0530 > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > From: Q u a s i <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Sgtn: Pine Tutorials > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > It might be a good Idea to put up the pine tutorials by Philip on the > (G/L)UG site for future reference, wouldn't it? > > quasi > > -- postscript -- > > Math is like love -- a simple idea but it can get complicated. > -- R. Drabek > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Problems with Kernel 2.4
by Paresh Chodpekar 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

I am using Suse Linux 7.1, it has two precompiled kernels ie 2.2.18 & 2.4. During the installation I had installed both the kernels. Now I am able to boot correctly using the 2.2.18 kernel. However when i try to boot using the 2.4 kernel i always have some kind of problems. The problem usually arises at the last stage. The system boots correctly and the graphical login is displayed. But after login the system either sys it cannot setup IPC or the xserver crashes & i am returned to the login. The login works correctly in X (so i suppose there is no problen with the xserver). Please do provide a simple answer to my problem. I am still a bigenner with linux. ( I guess there is some probelm in the precompiled kernel. Can i use the 2.4.6 kernel proveided in he last PCQ cd ?) Thanx in advance Paresh C

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L in inlux is not for the Pound Sign
by Anand 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Hello mayuresh, I believe you are asking the wrong question at the wong place. This is not M$ world. The software is given for fukat(free) and the support is only charged. the user has a right to modify the original program and redistribute it. This is linux. please do not change the L to Pound sign. Anand Original message from mayuresh follows.... how do s/w vendors ensure that a customer who buys a CD can use it to install the s/w only on his computer and if he takes a CD dump, the second CD will be of no use to anybody else? i guess there must be many techniques to do that but which one is used frequently? thanks a lot.. mayuresh kulkarni

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Free Software & Open Source Software
by sandeep 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Free Software: Here's part o' my paper that I will publish soon that might help clear up the "issue" some people have with the "freedom" that GPL provides : start-------------------------------------------- excerpt from "Copyleft Sucks" by Sandeep Copyright (C) 2001 Sandeep, Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article is permitted in any medium, provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved. --snip-- Freedom to me is the ability to make choices and to carry them out, but in a social environment, freedom requires a legal and institutional framework. Here is the paradox, on the one hand for a person to have complete freedom, he must be able to make choices and carry them out without being controlled by anyone else, but on the other hand, in a social setting, one persons choices affect another and hence, in a free society, we need laws to distribute the condition of freedom equally among all the people. Therefore, from a legal point of view, people are free if society imposes no unjust limits on them and also protects their rights. That is, the law both limits and protects the freedom of an individual. For example, it forbids people to steal from others, but it also guarantees that people will be free from being robbed. --snip-- end--------------------------------------------- This is exaclty how the GNU GPL functions. It is not totally free of constraints but these restrictions r very nessecary -they limit but only to protect. Sandeep --- "The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good, in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it." ---John Stuart Mill ___________________________________________________________________ *FREE* Web-based Email Accounts at BOX.COM - http://www.box.com/?i=2 Access Your Email from ANYWHERE!

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