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Re: [ILUG-BOM] zip
by acharya＠dacafe.com 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

thanks _____________________________________________________________

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Version Ka Funda
by Nikhil Joshi 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Hi! I get confused by the versioning system of Linux. I would like to know why the versions are so cryptic and not easy to remember and understand like in the Redmond. I guess the general rule is: Software whose version has many odd nos. ---> Bad ( o.k. not so good ;-) even nos.---> Good Am I right? Also I've read that the first version of Linux kernel was 0.1 Why 0.1 ??? when it could have been 1 or 1.0 or whatever Also I've seen that kernels have huge version nos. My kernel version no. is 2.2.14-12 Does it provide any (useful) info ? Please enlighten. -- Women, when they are not in love, have all the cold blood of an experienced attorney. -- Honor'e de Balzac

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] kernel on a processor
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

> Has anyone thought of building the kernel into the processor ? > Definitely many must have thought of it. But I have never heard of > a processor with the kernel on it. What might be the > problems in doing this ? Search for `Crusoe processor' from Transmeta Corporation in Google. This the firm where Linus works ! ;) -a -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Spare time LINUX Hacker / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. If you don't try to succeed, nobody will try to stop you.

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #338 - 11 msgs
by Vishal Belsare 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Just a note... I think it is more proper for people to prefix their subject line with key words like COMMERCIAL, ANNOUNCEMENT, etc. to give a straight idea as to what the post contains. Came across certain posts which can definitely be regarded as commercials, going under names like "Workshop" etc.... people, PLEASE indicate earlier on that it's a commercial. and dint know that we could carry posts on stuff like embedded systems etc. on a linux group too.... guess its time for me to start marketing my CAD on Linux workshops by industry experts on linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, huh? regards, vishal. "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." ~ Albert Einstein. ----- Original Message ----- From: <linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #338 - 11 msgs : 8. Re: [OT] Workshop on Embedded Systems (Philip S Tellis) : 11. Re: Workshop on Embedded Systems (Pradeep Tapase) : Message: 8 : Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:03:02 +0530 (IST) : From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> : To: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> : Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Workshop on Embedded Systems : Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in : : Sometime on Jan 16, Pradeep Tapase assembled some asciibets to say: : : > I am attaching a PDF file which containing a detail about Embedded : : While PDF is definitely much better than Word - no macros, no redundant : data, little meta data - it is still preferable to use text pasted : inline in the mail. : : The advantages:.... : Ciao, : : Philip *Thanks Philip for reminding people as to what are usenet ethics.* : Message: 11 : To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in : Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Workshop on Embedded Systems : Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:50:01 +0500 (IST) : From: Pradeep Tapase <pradeept_iit(a)met.edu> : Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in : : A Conceptual Framework for Building Embedded Application : Target : Embedded PC , RTOS : uCos , Domain : Controls , Language : ‘C’ : Designed & conducted by Industry Experts : : Date : 19 Jan 02 – 21 Jan 02 : Duration : 3 days (Sat – Sun – Mon) : Venue : Mumbai Educational Trust, Information Technology : Timing : 9.15 a.m. – 5.30 p.m : Fees : Rs. 6,000/- Per Head : Faculty : Mr.V.M.Tilak & Ms.Ujjwala Deshpande : : Fee per participant : 60000/- : ALL PAYMENTS MUST BE MADE BY DD PAYABLE AT MUMBAI (FOR OUTSTATION DELEGATES) OR : BY LOCAL CHEQUE (FOR DELEGATES FROM MUMBAI) DRAWN IN FAVOUR OF “MET’ S~IIT.” : : Please mail the delegate form, along with your delegate fees on above address : to Ms.Sangeeta Chakravarty at MET’S ~ Institute of Information Technology or : Email: met(a)bom2.vsnl.net.in : Contact: Mktg. Office: 022-6519251 / 6440446 : : Form is available on http://krishna.met.edu/resonance : : Pradeep : End of Linuxers Digest _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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kernel on a processor
by Abhir Joshi 17 Jan '02

17 Jan '02

Hi Has anyone thought of building the kernel into the processor ? Definitely many must have thought of it. But I have never heard of a processor with the kernel on it. What might be the problems in doing this ? Abhir _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Workshop on Embedded Systems
by Philip S Tellis 17 Jan '02

17 Jan '02

Sometime on Jan 16, Pradeep Tapase assembled some asciibets to say: > I am attaching a PDF file which containing a detail about Embedded While PDF is definitely much better than Word - no macros, no redundant data, little meta data - it is still preferable to use text pasted inline in the mail. The advantages: 1. It is much smaller. The text version of your document is 7K as opposed to 61K for your PDF. Multiply this by 300 - the number of people on the list. 2. It is readable by everyone. I'd have to start up my X server only to read your PDF. That's a waste for me, and I probably won't do it. 3. No messing around with attachments. Usenet is a plain text medium 4. It is incorruptible. If a couple of bits in your PDF get complemented, the PDF will no longer be readable. The same with text, and there is very little data loss. This is probably irrelevant here, but still. 5. It will stand the test of time much better. What happens when we come to a time when there are no pdf viewers available and the format is lost forever? Reading plain text takes only a knowledge of the character set in use. If that is lost, it won't be all that hard for a cryptanalyst to figure it out. The same can't be said for a data format with structure. We already have problems with the inavailability of 5 1/4" disk drives. Ciao, Philip -- ... The prejudices people feel about each other disappear when then get to know each other. -- Kirk, "Elaan of Troyius", stardate 4372.5

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for and while loops
by Abhir Joshi 17 Jan '02

17 Jan '02

Hi In the source code of some packages, I have seen 'for (;;)' where 'while (1)' could have done the job. Is it related to the efficiency of the code generated ? I have also seen that the a java decompiler generated 'for(;;)' from the bytecode which was compiled with 'while(true)'. Is it that all 'while' loops are converted to 'for' loops internally before compiling? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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zip
by acharya＠dacafe.com 17 Jan '02

17 Jan '02

hi can anyone tell me how to zip a folder. redhat linux 7.0. say folder is conf priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] bc and bash scripting woes
by Dinesh Shah 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

Hi, try SUM=0; for i in `seq 0 10`; do SUM=`echo "$SUM+$i"|bc`; echo -n $SUM ;done here is the o/p... 0 1 3 6 10 15 21 28 36 45 55 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Parvez Lanewala wrote: > hi luggers, > > > i'm having a problem with the following code... > > --snip-- > > for i in `seq 0 10`; > do > SUM=`echo $SUM+${ARR[$i]}|bc` > done > > --snip-- > > error says : (standard_in) 1: parse error > > although the segment > > echo $SUM+${ARR[$i]}|bc > > works fine outside the for loop. any hints on why and how i can avoid it. > > thanks, > parvez > > > -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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1.Configuring Internet Access via NIC & 2. CDRW advice
by Vishal Belsare 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

Greetings all. Need help with a two things: 1. Configuring and setting up my linux box to access internet through a network card (Realtek 8139 chipset) 2. To know whether Acer CRW 2010A CD-Rewriter [ 20x(write) 10x(rewrite) 40x(read) ] is compatible with Linux. would like to hear from people who have used this model successfully or even otherwise. Regards, Vishal. P.S: I would also like to know whether there are any Linux users in the suburb of Andheri, Bombay. People willing to respond please e-mail and dont post on the group. "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." ~ Albert Einstein. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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