Linuxers November 2002

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Linux-Bom?
by Hanisha Vaswani 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

hi guys, i have been a member of the list for nearly a year now, but i mostly lurk, just trying to assimilate random bits of Linux-gyan from the more experienced LUGgers the recent posts regarding the Linux - Bombay 2002[3?] prompted me to post though -- especially once the talk began moving towards a 'lets-hire-WizCraft / 360 degrees / ' kind of thread though i have nothing at all against a 'more professionally managed' event, i do have an issue against outsourcing it -- having been on the core team of a unique college fest before, i have realised that *absolutely nothing* beats your own personal involvement in everything right from whom to approach for sponsorship to the what wattage of the bulbs to use on stage... an event management company is fine when it comes to organising events for an audience whose needs are well-understood ---Michael Jackson fans, for eg. --- but i seriously have my own doubts about which event management company would understand the unique needs of a niche community like ours [ hell, we're a lot different from a standard product launch or lecture series, which is the maximum 'software expertise' that most such companies have ] which is why companies like IBM need to have their own in-house event - preparation and - management teams now for the alternative... who says we cant put up a 'professional' event on our own ? all of us have some special skill which we can bring to the table... and most have probably been involved in some sort of event at some level [ organising / volunteering / participating ].... it only needs time, and since not many may be able to afford dedicating a burst of time a month before the event, what must happen is that the preliminary details must be hammered out soon -- discussions can be done over mail [ like its already happening ] and concrete steps [ looking at choices of venues, sub-events, etc] can be carried out over weekends of course this is tiring and time consuming but then the best things in life are never handed to anyone on a silver platter apologies again for the rant cheers, Hanisha P.S. : don't worry, even the 'smart-chicks' can be arranged, and we won't even have to fill some super-greedy event-management company's overflowing coffers for it __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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Micro. Anti-trust.
by mails＠munshi.dyndns.org 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Among other recent measures, Microsoft recruited perhaps India's best-known software executive, N. R. Narayana Murthy, the chairman of a leading software exporter, Infosys Technologies, to endorse Microsoft's technologies in large newspaper ads. The headline on one quoted Mr.Murthy as saying: "When I saw Windows XP in action, I was amazed. How did Microsoft get hold of my wish list?" Is that a secret anymore, this is the proof of anti-trust case. Just a joke. Amish K. Munshi ICQ 85730949 === Never ask a geek why, just nod your head and slowly back away.===

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[OT] Why not to use MS Word attachments
by Philip S Tellis 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

OT here, but useful if you need to make a counter argument against someone who sends you Word files. http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/scc38/1583/emailtg1/msg00004.html Philip -- But, for my own part, it was Greek to me. -- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"

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GNU/Linux Bombay 2002
by Frederick Noronha 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Organization: Media Lab Asia Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lets have our own Linux Bombay 2002 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hello Luggers..;) Check out the Professionally arranged....LB 2002 http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/ Lets have a professionally managed show for people in and around Bombay/Maharashtra too...wat say..?? Trevor -- 2002 is almost getting over. Keep it in 2003... we in Goa would like to participate in some way. Other younger LUGs (e.g. at Belgaum) could also be involved. What say? FN

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #677 - 13 msgs
by kshitijv 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Hi quasi, I am interested in knowing the details of changes you made to linc. But tell me, are you able to connect to Net from multiple OSs (Windows98, Windows2000, Linux, etc). As per the discussion on group its clear now that 24Online Server checks for MAC address. But in my case its same across the OSs. (as shown by sniffer program). Do I need to do0 any extra configuration? Is it possible to change the MAC address? -Kshitij > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:10:05 +0530 > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > From: q u a s i <quasar(a)vsnl.net> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 24 Online Clients > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > At 04:18 even 11/11/02 +0000, MiTuL wrote: > >I have not been able to find any work around yet ..(unless you tell your > >provider not to lock your MAC address..which i guess he wont do ..atleast > >my provider doesnt :( ) > > I am slightly confused as to what 'workaround' you are talking about. For > 24online system, atleast, if you use the same NIC then the problem is only > with the configuration - it should work on all OS where you can get a > client (I know of Win9x/XP & GNU/Linux). I am successfully using it Linux > with linc. But I had to perform a minor hack on linc for it to work. If > anyone is interested I will give details of what I had to do. > > quasi > kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #677 - 13 msgs
by kshitijv 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

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http://www.rediff.com/money/2002/nov/12gates.htm
by Ravindra Jaju 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Oops! And we want to rope in "officials" for the OSS movement!? -- jaju

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No reply?
by Amol Hatwar 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

I posted the letter here yesterday, so that not only Trevor but everyone could read it. I haven't got any bouquets or brickbats as of now... Wonder what's up? /me hauls Trevor! Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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NEWS: Gates threatening spirit of freedom -- free software guru
by Frederick Noronha 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Gates threatening spirit of freedom: free software guru >From Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, Nov 12 (IANS) Microsoft chairman Bill Gates threatens the spirit of freedom, the founder of the free software movement said here even as the world's richest man began a tour of India. Richard Stallman said in the Indian capital Monday evening that Microsoft and Gates -- who arrived here on a four-day visit the same day -- were perpetuating systems that threaten the freedom of computer users. Stallman was in the city to release his book "No Sir, No Monopoly! Free Software - A Perspective". Published by Prajashakti publishers, the book was released by B.K. Kcayla, convenor of the national working group on patent laws. Stallman, who has emerged as a symbol against everything that Bill Gates has stood for, is also the founder of the GNU software project out of which has emerged the Linux operating system -- available free or in low-cost software packages. Clad informally, Stallman seemed every inch the man he is reputed to be. After walking to the podium sans his shoes, Stallman said: "This is a struggle for freedom and independence. Non-free software, like the ones sold by Microsoft, divides people. "It is like not being allowed to share your favourite cooking recipes with your friends. One cannot exchange recipes, one cannot change the cooking nor does one know anything about the ingredients - that is the world of non-free software, developed by Microsoft. "It doesn't allow any software to be shared and one has to pay for running these programmes. In India, it would cost an enormous amount and a big drain on resources. "Non-free software violates the spirit of goodwill that is so important for human society and civilization. It is akin to the exploitative colonial system. "When Bill Gates donates computer systems to schools, it is like gifting cigarettes. It is initially free but when you get hooked you have to pay for it. Non-free software programmes are like that. It will be available free of cost but for a couple of years only." Gates is pledging a large donation to health projects in India through his Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Said Stallman: "Gates is donating a small fraction of what he has squeezed out of computer users." "What India should do is to resist against non-free software collectively. The good effects of globalisation can come about only through the use of non-free software," Stallman argued. In India, Linux is used by less than 10 percent of the country's personal computers and server computers. India has an estimated half-million individual software developers. There are an estimated four million PCs in use in India among the nation's billion people. --Indo-Asian News Service

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] NEWS: Gates threatening spirit of freedom -- free software guru
by vinayak 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

-----Original Message----- From: Frederick Noronha <fred(a)bytesforall.org> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:09:11 +0530 (IST) Subject: [ILUG-BOM] NEWS: Gates threatening spirit of freedom -- free software guru Gates threatening spirit of freedom: free software guru >From Indo-Asian News Service <snip> hello Frederick, I apprieciate your postings of new aricles on this group. But please mail the urls and not the content of the articles. Those who are interested will then follow the url and bookmark it for future references. ***************** Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU. ***************

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