Linuxers February 2002

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mail backup
by kishor bhagwat 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Does anyone have info on a realtime/almost realtime mail backup system using sendmail 8.9? the main server and backup server are geographically distant. regards, kishor PS:i sent this hours ago..havent received it myself, so re-sending it... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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Proposal for a Meet on 6th Jan
by Nagarjuna G. 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

I am proposing a meet on 6th Jan, and also proposing an agenda (if Sameer agrees to it): Using SGML to generate Documents, and converting SGML/XML to other popular formats like, ps, rtf, pdf etc. I have been using LaTeX for this task and highly satisfied, and would also love to learn the SGML tools to do the same. It is necessary that the hackers on the list should learn the power of these time tested tools, and should be introduced to them sooner than later. Should we decide Sameer! on your introduction/tutorial to structured documentation using SGML? Nagarjuna -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/gn/ Key fingerprint = C1E2 1B8C 8E98 A697 68B7 ADAC E956 6D4B DE90 BF01

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sspearheading the movement
by Trevor Warren 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

Dear Luggers...... yesterday after consultation with dr.nagarjun i hav mailed u a modified version of the draft proposed by Mr.lakdawala of fsf india. The draft according to him proposes to take Free SOftware to the masses by introducing the concept of Free SOftware in all the schools and colleges all around india. We second this opinion of his and i would like to personally thank him for putting down the proposal in such a neat format for others to make use of. From the perspective of the lug, we would like to propogate/market Free Software and also make it our aim to introduce Gnu/Linux to the various budding students all over india. Thus in this initiative of our i would like to start with all the Engineering Colleges in and around bbay and Maharashtra. Just recently we concluded a very very FRUITFUL trip to Rajaram Bapu College Of Engineering, Kolhapur which saw the Dr.Nagarjun nd the others delivering 3 quality dayz of trainin nd introduction on Free SOftware and Linux to 70 buddin engineers......soem of whom hav even joined the ILUG-BOM mailin list. For the 1st workshop, i spent close to 6000/- from my pocket which later was re-imbursed by the college authorities. I tool this liberty since i knew the college management personally. I know the comercial part out here is tricky......nd the lug has had a bad xperience leavin it with a sour taste in it's mouth. But if i am goin to co-ordiante these workshops on a routine basis i expect some financial support and backing. After pondering abt it for sometime, dr. nagarjun suggested that we could dash the feelers/letter to the various colleges all over bombay,Maharashtra nd after havin comfirmed dates in hand abt the event propose to the FSF abt our initiative. FSF then agress to sanction some funds for us to further the cause and we carry out the preps. I further would like to mention another of dr.nags suggestion. We could also conduct a few commercial workshops asap and garner some funds enough for us to continue with our cause in spreading the word of Free SOftware......Nd this time around we'l take the precautions to prevent us burnin our fingers the way we did last time. Pliss enlist ur comments...so that we can hav a final letter drafted and a core set of volunteers i can bank upon for logistics, event management and speakers for the workshops. Last time dinesh, parag, navin had volutneerd to come along.......Letz get kickin and get the ground work done. Trevor Warren ===== ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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Perl python teaching
by Kishor Bhagwat 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

hello folks! Is there anyplace/anyone who teaches PERL/python? and yeah..crash courses..;) regards, kishor It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Commercial] Latest cds available from Enterux Solutions
by Sales - Enterux 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Linux is not reliable . Windows Still rulez
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:39:06 Amish K. Munshi wrote: > Yes I agree with you, but I most of the work that we require to >do is available as a GUI toolkit. And however integrated we are to the >Linux systems, we would love to use the graphical version of linuxconf >rather than the text version. There's a learning curve. When I started out, I was averse to the command line too. But as I began discovering commands for things that went click-click, I found myself using the command line more and more. The reason is simple - it's easier to issue a command than fire up a GUI, sift thru the tabs and buttons et al. Say, you want to add a user to a new group. How'd you do it in GUI? Fire up Linuxconf, expand the trees till you reach the users area (I've forgotten what Linuxconf looked like, so it's a somewhat inexact reproduction), click on that user and then in his/her property sheet, specify the group somewhere. That done, you click the "Activate" button and then "Quit" hoping that things went fine. Same thing on the command line: # usermod -G <group>[, ...] <user> There's a command - apropos - that searches for the supplied keywords in short descriptions of all the entries in man pages. So, if you're looking for disk management commands, you can do: $ apropos disk and get a list of commands that have the word "disk" in their descriptions. I don't say that GUI is bad. The user should figure out when to use what tool. As a rule of thumb, use a GUI tool when you are going to use a majority of the features it offers. So I may use LinuxConf when I get down to configuring my system after a fresh install. But not for the occasional tweaks and mods. Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux for Win2000
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Mar '02

01 Mar '02

http://www.cygwin.com --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed On 28 Feb 2002 12:10:07 -000 shahazad wrote: >Hi all, >Can anybody tell me about runnning "Linux on windows 2000". >I have searched all over the net but havent found it for win2000. > >It would be gr8 if anybody would supply me with the download url. > >Thanx >regards ></shahazad> > > >-- >Get your firstname@lastname email at http://Nameplanet.com/?su >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] looking for mail client
by Erle 28 Feb '02

28 Feb '02

check out http://www.tisya.co.in/indy/ simply stunning... C'ya Erle. On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:42:16 > Manish Jethani wrote: >I'm looking for a [gui] mail client that (doesn't suck)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Letter to spearhead the movement
by Tahir Hashmi 28 Feb '02

28 Feb '02

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 03:24:27 Trevor Warren wrote: > > I am serious abt this pals...so pliss letz get on >with the actual work and finalise the draft as >proposed by mr.lakdawala. > >Trevor Warren > Right Trevor. The letter's fine enough but it might make more sense if we point out some broad issues like Quality of Software vs. Costs, exposure to more powerful systems etc. before we mention Free Software or FSF. Would you like me to attempt at rephrasing some parts of the letter? Another thing, late last year I did some extensive fact-finding for delivering a Seminar "Introducing Linux" in my office. I have documented the whole thing and you can find it at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir/Linux Perhaps, it could help the volunteers in deciding on the content of their talks. I would also be grateful if people could have a look around and point out anything they find factually incorrect. Thanks --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com mailme(a)tahirhashmi.scriptmania.com __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux for Win2000
by Amish Mehta 28 Feb '02

28 Feb '02

If you mean 'Linux for Windows 2000'(as in 2nd line) then there is no(will never be) such thing. And if you actually mean 'Linux on Windows 2000' then this might help, http://www.vmware.com. Amish. shahazad(a)linuxplanet.nu wrote: >Can anybody tell me about runnning "Linux on windows 2000". >I have searched all over the net but havent found it for win2000.

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