Linuxers August 2002

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Settting up squid cache box
by Zaheer Khan 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

hello ppl I have a 512k leased line...for internet access.right now i am using the NAT feature of the router(i dont have a CISCO router, other wise i guess i could use router feature for redirection) to give access to the internet.Is is possible to setup linux multihomed box...acting as the default gateway (instead of the current router) & proxy, masq and caching server..so that i can save bandwidth and log all the user activities..please give u r inputs..I have 32 public ips. i guess an extra hop wouldt make any difference. Current setup Router <---> hub <---> users Suggested setup Router (s0 wan port ip, eth0-public ip) | Linux Multihomed Box (eth0- public ip, eth1- private ip) | Hub | Users

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routing entries storing place?
by akshaysalkar 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

where are the routing entries stored? i would also like to know is to what really happens (for redhat) when i configure route+gateway using netconf for the default routes. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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knowing what other user is doing
by Hiten Desai 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ??? Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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Re[2]: knowing what other user is doing
by Vinay Pai 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

> root is just another user, albeit with a few more privileges. Yeah right... just like a nuke is just another bomb with a little more power and a computer is an abacus with a few more features :)

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college lab
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

>IMHO, this may not be a very good scheme. The reason is that all >the >Windows workstations on the network have to have the entire OS >and all >the applications you erquire, installed on every machine. You >only end >up managing an extra (Linux) Server along with all those >workstations. >If you really need to have Windows workstations, you should >rather >hook up the computers together and make one of the machines run a >WINS >service. {snip) i know brother that the scheme is not very good, but its not my lab. 200 more students work on them.. plus i am not the boss. the HOD wants it to be done that way and no one say "NO" to the HOD. its his way or the highway.. so we have to do it the way he told us to. windows workstations- linux server- remote login(telnet) and ftp server __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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college lab
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

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[OFFTOPIC] Open letter to Goan musicians...
by Frederick Noronha 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

Dear Linuxers friends, Do you think this would work? Do I need to sharpen some issues below? Your suggestions are welcome. Apologies for an off-topic post, but I'm keen to expand this thinking to other spheres. Anyone wanting a copy of my 'copyleft' photos is free to request a copy of the same. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear musicians from Goa: This is a dream: to create a bank of 'open source' MP3 music from Goa, and by Goan musicians worldwide... that could be shared among music enthusiasts freely across the globe through the Internet. If you share this dream, or think it could be workable, read on... How would it help those volunteering to share their skills? Firstly, it would build awareness about the depth and variety of Goan music that has evolved over the centuries and continues to evolve. Secondly, it would showcase the talent and skills of musicians linked to Goa. Thirdly, and importantly, it would increase the amount of publicly-accessible music from Goa that can be shared legally and reproduced freely among all who appreciate music from Goa. Who would 'control' the collection? Nobody. It would be available to one and all via the Internet. Probably the various Goa-related sites would find it in their interest to reproduce this music, and make it downloadable -- after duly giving credit to the artists who created the music. (Rights remain with the artist, even under CopyLeft terms, though reproduction is made freely allowable.) What form of music would be welcome? Anythink that would interest the listener. Past, present, Western, Indian, classical, pop, vocals, instrumental, Konkani, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Italian (yes, Goans have sung in this language), trance... or whatever. Would I lose control over the music created? There are various forms of 'open' licences (different from the restrictive copyright forms of licensing, which seldom benefits the artist but is mostly used as a controlling tool by some corporation with financial clout) being debated on the Net. These apply to software, music, text, audio, creative works and a lot else. You are free to choose any form of license that suits you. If we could agree (might be difficult), a common form of licensing could be opted for. Would this work? Let me share an experience. I've already put out about 2000 of my photographs of Goa in the 'copyleft' world, and have not for a moment regretted it. Rather than just lying around on my hard-disk (and then getting lost in some hard-disk crash), these photographs have reached websites and desktops across the globe, and have surfaced at the most unexpected places. Non-commercial reproduction is free, though I appreciate being told where it is used. Such an approach earns attention to one's creative work. Not just that, sharing actually makes the world a better place. At a very selfish level, it sometimes also brings in potential for more work for a freelance journalist. Feedback often stimulates one's own creativity. In the rare eventuality of anything going wrong, one is at the very least assured that creating another 2000 photographs in a scenic place like Goa would not be an immensely difficult task. Musicians unsure about whether this would work at all could venture by putting out a limited quantity of their work (even if only one or two creations) and check the response and suitability. Above all, nothing ventured, nothing gained. In fact, I am also planning to put out an archive of much of my earlier writing in the 'CopyLeft' world -- freely reproduceable for non-commercial purposes, while retaining the rights. The main reason this has got delayed is the shortage of time to assemble all this work in a well-sorted manner. Would this not be counter-productive to the artistes? Contrary to intuitive-thinking, this would not depress the 'market' of Goan music, but on the contrary could actually extend and deepen it. Just because there are free/low-priced MP3s floating around on the Internet, it does not necessarily mean that people are going to be less willing to 'pay' to listen to Goan music in future. On the contrary, it could enhance awareness about musical talent in Goa, and deepen appreciation of the same. In much of my work, I have gained (even if seen purely in commercial terms) much much more from putting my work out in 'open/free content' format, rather than stashing it away on some obscure corner of my hard-disk. In the software world, the GNU/Linux Free Software/Open Source system works in other creative ways too. For instance, commercial firms are allowed to repackage and 'sell' (at a low cost, naturally, since anyone could copy this product) to users, charging for the cost they've incurred at packaging and marketing the material, plus overheads. What this means is that, on the one hand it would give small firms a chance to earn from this format of marketing, on the other it would also encourage musicians to gain a much wider audience, and fans to get access to MP3-based Goan music at a much lower cost. There is also the possibility of musicians putting out part of their work in 'open content' and the rest marketed through usual channels, thus allowing one to act as a stimuli for building interest in their form of music. It looks like a win-win-win game... if only we have enough initiatives to get started and build momentum. If you think this is an interesting idea, please let's take it forward. When I hear the Delhi-based M Menezes' soulful rendering of Hindi film hits on the piano, I wonder why no one has yet managed to do the same for the popular Goan music of past decades... when we have so much talent all around.... and guitar guilds or groups putting up much-appreciated regular performaces at regular intervals now. Frederick Noronha, Goa... on a rain August Sunday afternoon. PS: See the note below... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OPEN PUBLICATION LICENCES, A NEW LICENSE: A new public license -- the Open Publication License -- promises to bring the power of the open-source software movement to video, audio, and text while still preserving authors' rights to profit from the calluses of their creative hands. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20276.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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[offtopic] books for sale
by akshaysalkar 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

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(no subject)
by satyajit balkrishna saste 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

I am having trouble sharing files in linux using NFS.I have a network of two comps. We have used the following commands: #/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start #/etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start and then the mount command: #mount -t nfs faisal:/home /stuff ----where faisal is the m/c name of the 1'st comp, home the directory I want to access & I am mounting it into the /stuff folder .....Satyajit saste B.E Computers Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] RH Linux not overwriting MBR.
by Vinay Pai 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

> Same thing done the other way....... > There is a catch in it though... > Before executing it, you need to have Windows partition mounted at /mnt/winc, > right?? Now, while loading the bootloader you don't know of any filesystem > tree. Then where will "winc" be mounted??? > Only after booting into linux will you be able to access /mnt - unless of > course it is onto a different partition. But again, it would be better if you > use the device name + partition no. combination instead of *nix filesystem > specifics. I did it mainly because I used to frequently update kernels... it doesn't make too much sense to write the bootsector somewhere else, dd it to a file, copy it to the windoze partition etc. every time. If you do it only once, during installation, then of course it amounts to the same thing, and my method is probably more more roundabout.

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Linuxers August 2002