Linuxers March 2003

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by anirudh vyas 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

hello mukesh, I am Engg. stud. rom Jodhpur. I found that you had some problem installing modem on redhat 7.3 I have installed 7.3 for the first time. Will u please suggest me how to configure it, which driver is required or least reply me a link for further info. I would be thankful. -pinkle. _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&…

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Re: RE: [ILUG-BOM] CDs for belgaum
by Gurpreet Singh 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

hi yash i m not in mumbai as of now, so i dont think we can talk on the phone, but lets collaborate thru email. we plan to burn knoppix cds and*sell* them at the belgaum meet at a very nominal cost just to recover the cost of the cds. we'll buy the cds , burn them n sell them at belgaum, i think rs20 a cd shud be good enuff. as for dilivering them to belgaum, trevor n dinesh shah wud be goign for the meet. if u cud just give the cds to them, they'll take care. u can get intouch with trevor when he is in town(in a day or 2) and fix things up with him... i think 50nos wud be enuff. i u r ready to burn, we'll burn 25 each! regards gurpreet On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 yash wrote : >hi gurpreet, > i would like to burn the cds. would you please guide >me through >the procedure of how you are going about it. i mean.. who is >burning how >many cds... how are we to deliver it if i burn them... and what >is the >costing that i will get for each cd...etc. > you can contact me on 26107997. if i am not >available, just leave >your phone no. or any contact nos. i will surely get in touch >with you. >regards, >yash. >(yashacharya(a)softhome.net) > >-----Original Message----- > From: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >[mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of Gurpreet >Singh >Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:14 PM >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Cc: fred(a)bytesforall.org >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] CDs for belgaum > > >hi >trevor n I planned to have knopix cds for sale at belgaum. >i volunteer to burn 50 cds. >if someone else is burning cds for belgaum, plz get intouch >with >me so that we dont duplicate the effort. > >gurpreet > >PS: FN plz forward this to belgaum meet organizers n the goa >lug >too > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - >Click here to know more! >http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&w >n > > >Gurpreet Singh >Student >Final Yr >Computer Sc. & Engg. >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&… Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Can an Open-Source Database Threaten Microsoft, Oracle, and IBM?
by Hanisha Vaswani 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

gratifying to see the ROW wake up slowly - hanisha `````````````````````````````````````````````` Can an Open-Source Database Threaten Microsoft, Oracle, and IBM? MySQL still lacks many features big customers want, but the software maker and CEO Marten Mickos have dazzling opportunities ahead. FORTUNE Wednesday, March 12, 2003 By David Kirkpatrick Talking last week with Marten Mickos, CEO of MySQL, took me back to the golden days of 1999. Here was a fresh-faced, unbelievably enthusiastic CEO, raving about the future prospects of his product, just like so many executives I met back in those unreal times. But Mickos has a very real opportunity. The open-source movement has become a major factor across the software industry, and MySQL is the world's most popular open-source database. In contrast to typical commercial software, open-source products have their underlying programming code available for all to see and modify. The products are also free or close to it, which, needless to say, helps them grow rapidly if they're good. MySQL is used in four million installations around the world, Mickos estimates. The product gets downloaded for free off the company's website about 30,000 times a day. And here's what Sun CEO Scott McNealy said in a February interview with Computerworld: "If you want to save...money, make the default database MySQL. It's free, it's bundled [with Sun's Solaris software], you've got the whole open-source community working on making it better. If Yahoo and Google can run their entire operations on MySQL, then certainly there's a huge chunk of your operations that could run on it as well." McNealy slightly exaggerated the Yahoo and Google stuff, but both companies do use MySQL extensively. I e-mailed so-called "Technical Yahoo" Jeremy Zawodny, who replied: "We use it all over the place-for batch feed processing in Yahoo Classifieds and Yahoo Finance, to serve live content in Yahoo Sports, Yahoo News and Yahoo Finance, and even in some billing systems. Our usage continues to grow." And the product has impressive capabilities. It is mostly used to run websites, including Alwayson-Network.com, Slashdot.org, parts of Sony Pictures, and many more. In addition, it's built into products from many technology companies. Aside from Solaris, it goes into the server version of Mac OS X and most commercial versions of Linux. Cisco puts it into intrusion detection devices. MySQL employs a so-called dual licensing model. Anybody can download the product for free and use it for whatever they want, but in so doing they become ethically obliged to share any modifications with the company. However, there's a second option. Pay for the product and you can do anything you want with it. "We're not a charity," says Mickos. "Even when we give it away free we always get a benefit out of it. We have the world's largest quality assurance facility." This database costs only $395 for every server on which it is installed, quite a contrast to the $20,000 you might pay for Oracle. The product also runs on cheaper hardware and typically is cheaper to maintain. MySQL had $5 million in revenues last year, a figure that should double in 2003, says Mickos. Privately funded, with ABN Amro lead investor, the Swedish company just turned profitable. MySQL lacks many features big companies want for using it with applications that are central to their business, like manufacturing or finance software from companies like SAP. But it is getting inexorably better thanks to all those helpers bequeathed by its business model. Says open-source expert Stacey Quandt at the Giga Information Group: "As the feature/functionality gap continues to narrow, MySQL will eventually take market share away from Oracle, [IBM's] DB2, and Microsoft SQL Server at the high end." Charlie Garry at Meta Group says open-source software is now supplanting costlier proprietary software for well-defined, commoditized tasks. He predicts that the established vendors will fight back with free, stripped-down versions of their own products, but he has no doubt about MySQL's prospects: "MySQL will penetrate the enterprise similarly to the way SQL Server did, but with much greater speed." Yahoo's Zawodny makes a different analogy: "MySQL is to Oracle as Linux is to Windows. It will slowly but steadily creep up the food chain, just like Linux has." Mickos is already seeing real headway. "I estimate we command 20% of the worldwide installed base of databases," he says , "but of revenues we only command only .02%. So there's a factor of 1,000." He laughs. "And we are making money. People ask me 'What's wrong-why are you leaving money on the table?' We say 'You should ask the other database companies what is wrong with their cost structure." His confidence may be 1999, but his pragmatism and customer-centric approach are very 2003. Questions? Comments? E-mail them to me at dkirkpatrick(a)fortunemail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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CDs for belgaum
by Gurpreet Singh 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

hi trevor n I planned to have knopix cds for sale at belgaum. i volunteer to burn 50 cds. if someone else is burning cds for belgaum, plz get intouch with me so that we dont duplicate the effort. gurpreet PS: FN plz forward this to belgaum meet organizers n the goa lug too _______________________________________________________________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&… Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Video conference setup
by nici bhatt 16 Mar '03

16 Mar '03

Hi Anyone in the block have setup dedicated videoconference server on any of the Linux version. Any good quality of GNU server available for this purpose. Regards Nici _________________________________________________________________ Get more buddies in your list. Win prizes http://messenger.msn.co.in/promo

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Re: How to change permission
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

One of the ways is to use a script for your FTP. I don't know if it is compatible with ncftp, but it works with ftp. The scripting help is present in ftp and netrc man pages. > > I have a file abc.txt in my web site ftp.aief.net (/tmp/abc.txt) > > I want to change the access privilage of the file abc.txt to 777 from my > local machine. > > I require a single command line to do the above inorder to put the command in > crontab. -- Goldwyn :o) Free Software: the Software by the People, of the People and for the People. Develop! Share! Enhance! and Enjoy! -- Andy Tai

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How to change remote file permission.
by Vinod Bhaskar 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

Hi friends, I am having a web space www.abei.net. I want to change the file permission to (read write execute) for file /tmp/abc.txt in my web space. I am using ncftp command to upload the file and it is set on crontab. So automatically the file get transfered in the web. I have used the following command line to upload it in to web. ncftpput -u username -p passwd ftp.abei.net /tmp /home/vinod/abc.txt now I want to change the permission of the uploaded file automatically from my local machine. How to do that? Please guide me. Regards, Vinod.

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Longhorn
by Manish Jethani 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

Stand up and take note. Microsoft is innovating. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134641541_microsof… I wonder why KDE/GNOME have been merely copying the Windows way of doing things instead of really "innovating". And now, what? -Manish -- disclaimer: "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation."

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A short intro to PCQLinux 8.0 on NewsForge Reports
by Clinton Goveas 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

Hi, NewsForge has published my brief intro to PCQLinux 8.0, and the same is available at: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/11/1252203 Best wishes, Clinton Goveas --- The Open Source Knowledge Base - Everything you wanted to know about Open Source http://os.clintongoveas.com/

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Re: Good News from LINUX For You
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 15 Mar '03

15 Mar '03

On Saturday 15 March 2003 07:32, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote: > It is not always easy to stick to only free software for websites. > For all we know, the server they use to host the site may be a > commercial server which runs iis or something. > > Also, the site is probably designed by commercial design firms, who > may not have the ability to do it under free software systems. I > doubt if any corporate will take a decision of changing their > server and website design firms just because they work on > proprietory software. In most cases, the users do not know the > difference anyway. I dont think so. The Purpose of a technical magizine is to educate and update it's users. It means that the editors must have a thorough understanding of the issues affecting users, bussinesses, etc. Without this understanding they are merely in it for a fast buck and will be spreading mis information. > What is more important is whether the design of the website > supports non-propertory browsers like mozila, konquor, etc. If > being a Linux magazine, it runs a website that only supports IE, > then we all have a reason to fry (not just flame) them, otherwise, > I dont think it is important enough. Wether their website supports other browsers or not is a minor quibble. The real issue here is are they aware about Libre software. If they are they should have been using GNU software. Libre software is about keeping knowledge open and useable for the benefit of all. This is the only issue that is important. The opensource movement very convienently forgets this issue. The recent SCO shenanigans should be an eye opener. I havent as yet read the mag. Therfore my comments maybe way off. I intend to read it on Sunday. rgds jtdsouz(a)softhome.net

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