Linuxers July 2003

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[ILUG-BOM] issues of Software Freedom for you all....subscriptions invited
by Trevor Warren 06 Jul '03

06 Jul '03

Hello Luggers, I have recieved copied of software Freedom which is published by (www.software-freedom.org). These issues cost rs 10/- each. All of you who would like to pick up a copy of the same can at the coming LUG meeting. Else, if someone is passing by Nariman Point and want a copy of the same please do drop into " 13th Floor, 135 B Wing, Mittal Towers". Behind British Council Library. The money collected from the same will be sent sent to the magazine in delhi towards receiving timely copies of the same every month. Looking forward to an increasing subscriber base for Software Freedom. Trevor -- ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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to know activities of the lug
by Akshay Tagalpallewar 06 Jul '03

06 Jul '03

i am a new user joined to this group, and want to know what kind of activities this group conducts. other than that i'm a student of sggs college, Nanded, i & my friends there want to start a new LUG at NANDED, so can some one help me out. i will be glad if we could meet personally or can contact by phone. my no is 27701985. regards ---Akshay SMS using the Yahoo! Messenger;Download latest version.

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Interview of linus on SCO vs. IBM lawsuit, on M$
by Anand Kane 06 Jul '03

06 Jul '03

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6238207.htm

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DRAFT FAQ... for email users in Goa
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 06 Jul '03

06 Jul '03

RECENTLY, a shiftover of mail-servers in Goa (from Goatelecom to Sancharnet.in) caused quite a few glitches in e-mail access here. Below are some threads from the debate. We are trying to find solutions (many have been found), and seek your help in pointing us in the right direction. Please note that some of the suggestions below are tentative and not tested in all conditions. Hence, your suggestions on these, and pointing out of inaccuracies, would be more than welcome. Kindly send your responses to fred(a)bytesforall.org with subjectline reading EMAIL FAQ... FN ------------------------------------------------------------------------- DRAFT FAQ: FOR GNULinux EMAIL USERS IN GOA, INCLUDING THOSE ON SANCHARNET ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Compiled by FN for ILUG-Goa It is found that sancharnet does not accept webmail logging from konquerer, but from mozilla it works. I am using RH 7.2. Dialling through kppp script is also not smooth due to long time it takes for password authentication. Has anybody else in the list found the same problem? -- Bijon B Shaha <bbshaha(a)gmx.net> I had to enable the silent option in /etc/ppp/options to enable wvdial to connect. But this connect now takes ages at least 1.5 min from handshake tone to final connection. Is this a problwm with Sancharnet speeds? Or is it a problem with my machine? What's the best and fastest connect setting? I'm using wvdial.. no extra settings in the file. -- Ashely Delaney <delaneyashley(a)softhome.net> > > For me after the silent option I get the connection and it takes around > > 30 secs to connect. That's about as long as it takes for me also... This is almost 20-25 seconds slower then Windows based systems. I tried it out! I don't like my Linux box slower then something else :-( > In wvdial.conf, will Stupid Mode =1 be of use? Nope.. tried that. The stupid thing does just that. Starts ppp before username and password and hence disconnects almost immediately. BTW I must note that with the option passive it took 30 seconds, and with option 'silent' it took 1 min and the next time it disconnected. Any ideas??? -- Ashley Delaney <delaneyashley(a)softhome.net> Wvdial which used to work flawlessly for dialling to goatelecom has become unusable due to long authentication time required by Sanchanet. The program after starting desparelty ppp waits and waits and waits and eventually comes out to start redialling. Has anyone found a solution as many linux users use wvdial for automatic dialling? -Bijon B Shaha <bbshaha(a)gmx.net> I use wvdial and have to enable 'silent' option in /etc/ppp/options to make sancharnet dialing to work with wvdial. However after configuring using debian tool pppconfig and using pon and poff it worked in the first shot. Still there are problems while sending mails using sancharnet smtp. -- Rajesh Fowkar Use PAP authentication without dialup script or terminal. -- Derek Cordeiro <derek_cordeiro(a)gmx.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anybody know how to configure Mozilla mail to handover outgoing mail to exim? -- Mahesh T Pai Very simple. Just put your outgoing smtp server as localhost (or your machine hostname) Exim listens on the port 25 of your local machine as defined in your inetd.conf file. You don't need to edit it. Just a tip: If you use fetchmail to retrieve your email you can install one of the many available pop3 servers. UW i.e. university of washington pop3, imap is quite good. <derek_cordeiro(a)gmx.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna get your hotmail email in a linux email client? Use hotwayd proxy server http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net/ -- Derek Cordeiro <derek_cordeiro(a)gmx.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are problems while sending mails using sancharnet smtp. -- Rajesh Fowkar smra.sancharnet.in requires SMTP authorization. Old email clients do not support authorization. Change your email client. You may not be able to send email using an MTA such as sendmail, postfix, exim etc.. Use an email client directly or get the use of an alternative SMTP server(relayhost) -- Derek Cordeiro <derek_cordeiro(a)gmx.net> Strange -- I had no problems in setting up wvdial. It just worked with same options as for Goatelecom. Regarding the mail sending -- a line on CSI-Goa (Computer Society of India-Goa chapter) list helped. I got three helpful responses. Sancharnet requires authentication for sending mails. I set that option on Sylpheed and it is working. -- Anil Seth <anilseth(a)sancharnet.in> Thats good to hear. But does wvdial.conf have the option Stupid Mode = 1 enabled? Sylpheed supports SMTP auth. Not all email clients support the same. Older versions of kmail -- e.g. kmail on RHL7.2 Debian woody 3.0, Mandrake 8.1 -- do not support smtp auth. MTAs most probably will not support the same as they are full fledged SMTP servers and not any email client like Sylpheed. Sancharnet could, like many other servers, have allowed POP before SMTP authentication so that most users (using sendmail, postfix, old email clients) will be able to use the given SMTP server BTW users of old versions of ppp should use 'passive' instead of 'silent'. -- Derek Cordeiro <derek_cordeiro(a)gmx.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debian vs Redhat: In Debian the wvdial package contains a file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial-pipe whereas in RedHat Lnx the same does not exist. Is it that this file is not important?(Then why does it continue to exist even in Knoppix?) There is a utility called pppstatus in Debian Woody(and Knoppix). The same I downloaded and compiled on Mandrake, RedHat, But it fails to do the job (it provides a terminal interface graph). Has anyone tried it, Any answers? -- Derek Cordeiro I can add a lot to that since yesterday I made a mess of my dialup accounts. Redhat ppp dialer (rather the ifup-ppp script) also uses a file in the same directory. It is created with the names like ppp0, ppp1. It contains the command for connecting to the ISP using wvdial. (These files should actually be temporary and dynamic and should be cleaned up when the connection is closed. My problem may have been a side effect of abnormal terminations.) For the curious, I used a shortcut to make sancharnet correspond to ppp0. The idiot kept dialing goatelecom! I got rid of goatelecom entry in wvdial.conf. It then complained about no phone number. Oh, well. I learnt - short cuts are dangerous. Regarding the ppp status, from my experience with Modem Lights, I would guess that these programs actually use the Modem Lock file for the status. If the modem is using /dev/ttyS0 and the monitoring program is using /dev/modem, the status will not be shown. The file name will be something like /var/lock/LCK..ttyS0 -- Anil Seth <anilseth(a)sancharnet.in> These files i.e. ppp0, ppp1 to my knowledge only contain a command wvdial with different options. The file "wvdial-pipe" contains pppd options like "noipdefault" etc. That's the reason I want to know it's significance.(It does not contain the command wvdial) The RedHat Network control creates ppp0, ppp1,...only upto version 8.0. RHL 9.0 directly edits the /etc/wvdial.conf file. There are additional settings in /etc/sysconfig/network(network-scripts) folder-- Derek Cordeiro ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ILUG-Goa, a network with a difference: sharing software, knowledge and ideas ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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sendmail problem
by Amol Deshpande 05 Jul '03

05 Jul '03

Dear Friends, I'm using RedHat 8 with sendmail 8.12.5. I'm facing a lot of problems while writing rules & mailer. My requirement is to process all the relay mails depending on recipient users(which i'll create in a db) & if user exists there then it will rewrite envelope address & use predefined smtp server (which is not in dns), a local server whose ip address is available. Can anybody help me to sort this issue? Regards Amol linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-owner(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > GLUG Meeting on 13th July, 4pm at KReSIT, IIT Campus, Powai. > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: How will u install grub after reinstalling the windows > ..... (Amol Hatwar) > 2. Re: Problem with starting Apache (Rajesh Deo) > 3. issues of Software Freedom for you all....subscriptions > invited (Trevor Warren) > 4. Re: Problem with starting Apache (Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe) > 5. Re: debian cramfs? kernel panic unable to mount > (Royce & Sharal Pereira) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 01:05:06 +0530 > From: Amol Hatwar <rollacosta(a)phreaker.net> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] How will u install grub after reinstalling > the windows ..... > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Message-ID: <E19YWKp-0003tH-00@casper> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Friday 04 July 2003 15:29, you wrote: > > GLUG Meeting on 13th July, 4pm at KReSIT, IIT Campus, Powai. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > How will u install grub after reinstalling the windows ..... > > Hi, > > > > how do u reinstall grub after u have reinstalled windows and it > > has erased the MBR to its own convinience. > > The procedure is Windows then GNU/Linux! Anyway now that you've done the > thing I'll try help you look at the process of generating the answer out of > the problem you asked... > > 1. Without GRUB you can't have the installed GNU/Linux system running > 2. Without access to a GNU/Linux system you can't write GRUB onto the MBR. > > So the natural way to proceed will be to have some sort of a basic GNU/Linux > system (shell only + little admin utils) running. A boot floppy fits the bill > perfectly. That brings us to another best-practice... always make boot > floppies. If you're lucky, the 1.44 things might just work before dying ;). > > But incase you haven't made boot floppies, use your installation disks in > "rescue mode" to get a shell up and running as root. Now you could either > make a boot floppy OR install GRUB on the MBR direct. > > Interestingly, the same solution applies if you've forgotten the root > password. One needs to use 'chroot' and 'chpasswd' cleverly. > > Before you try to modify you're MBR make sure you have a working copy of > grub.conf or lilo.conf _outside_ your system. Also make sure you've gone > through the man/info pages gleaning as much as information as possible. I > guess... reading the man/info pages is another chicken-hen problem... just > browse the Internet. > > Best of luck, > > Amol Hatwar. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:38:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rajesh Deo <rajeshdeo(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem with starting Apache > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Message-ID: > <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307041635480.15887-100000(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Hi Linuxers, > > I am facing a strange problem. I had everything running till morning. > > But now when I started Apache httpd, it refuses to start and gives me a > > totally unrelated error. Whats the problem !! > > Please help me out... > > > > The Computer's screen messages is given below... > > > > ---------------------- > > [root@softrock root]# /etc/init.d/httpd start > > Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 267 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: > > Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/libphp4.so into server: > > /usr/lib/libgd.so.1.8: undefined symbol: jpeg_resync_to_restart > > [FAILED] > > --------------------- > > Sounds like a php upgrade problem... check your php installation. > > HTH, > Rajesh > > -- > UFOs are for real: the Air Force doesn't exist. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: 04 Jul 2003 20:51:50 +0530 > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)softhome.net> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] issues of Software Freedom for you > all....subscriptions invited > To: Gnu-Linux Users Group of bombay <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: Fredrick Noronha <fred(a)bytesforall.org> > Message-ID: <1057332109.1443.5.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello Luggers, > > I have recieved copied of software Freedom which is published by > (www.software-freedom.org). These issues cost rs 10/- each. All of you > who would like to pick up a copy of the same can at the coming LUG > meeting. > > Else, if someone is passing by Nariman Point and want a copy of the > same please do drop into " 13th Floor, 135 B Wing, Mittal Towers". > Behind British Council Library. > > The money collected from the same will be sent sent to the magazine in > delhi towards receiving timely copies of the same every month. > > Looking forward to an increasing subscriber base for Software Freedom. > > Trevor > > -- > ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ twarren(a)redhat.com __ /~\ > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:11:08 +0530 > From: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" <sameerds(a)it.iitb.ac.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem with starting Apache > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Message-ID: <20030705054108.GA25767(a)it.iitb.ac.in> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:51:31PM +0530, Akhilesh Suresh Shirbhate wrote: > > > [root@softrock root]# /etc/init.d/httpd start > > Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 267 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: > > Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/libphp4.so into server: > > /usr/lib/libgd.so.1.8: undefined symbol: jpeg_resync_to_restart > > [FAILED] > Seems to be some issue in either the php4 package or libgd. Did you > upgrade, remove or (horror of horrors) _delete_ anything on your > system? > > Try running a simple PHP script on the command line that uses some > libgd function. There might be some switch that gives verbose output > about what's going on. > > Sameer. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:58:13 +0530 > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] debian cramfs? kernel panic unable to mount > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: rollacosta(a)phreaker.net > Message-ID: <007401c342be$9fc0d4a0$6fa009ca@xyznb8c77t523p> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Amol, > > I've stopped getting mail from the list since 26th Jun. I sent a test mail > to the list & It wasnt sent back to me (thru the list). > > Whats happened? Am I unsubscribed? Do I subscribe again ? > > PS: I'm sending a copy of this to Amol's email ID in case the list is not > getting this. > > Thanks, > --Royce. > > ------------------------------ > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > End of Linuxers Digest, Vol 3, Issue 6 > **************************************

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debian cramfs? kernel panic unable to mount
by Satya 05 Jul '03

05 Jul '03

On boot, Debian shows a prompt: wait 5 seconds, or hit enter for a shell prompt. On my system, if I hit enter I get a shell prompt but none of the commands work (everything: not found). Anyway, if I then exit the shell, it eventually says cramfs: wrong magic and kernel panic: unable to mount root fs blah. But if I don't drop to the shell, don't touch anything, it still says cramfs: wrong magic, but boots anyway without any panics. What's going on? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716

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[ILUG-BOM] How will u install grub after reinstalling the windows .....
by Rohan Ullal 05 Jul '03

05 Jul '03

How will u install grub after reinstalling the windows ..... Hi, how do u reinstall grub after u have reinstalled windows and it has erased the MBR to its own convinience. Thanx Rohan

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[ILUG-BOM] Printing - Saving color for Web Pages with background images?
by Subba Rao 04 Jul '03

04 Jul '03

Hello, I would like to know if there is anyway to avoid printing the background images of Web pages. These images are using up the color cartridges fast. If the Web page is 1 or 2 pages long then it is not a problem. The problem is with 10+ pages where the Web page background images uses up all the ink. Is there any way to avoid print the backgroud images on Web pages? All I want is the content and any pertinent diagrams on the page to be printed. Thank you in advance for any help. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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nspluginviewer does not work for particular user
by Amish Mehta 04 Jul '03

04 Jul '03

Hello All, I have some strange problem arising from no where since last 3-4 days. I have 3 users on my machine, amish, deepak and root. I am trying to run a realplayer song locally as well as through apache. I try these 2 commands. 1) konqueror /home/amish/public_html/songs/myfavsong.ram 2) konqueror http://192.168.1.1/~amish/songs/myfavsong.ram Both worked fine and played the song earlier(before 3-4days). However, since 3-4days, if I login as user 'amish', I can not run the song using second command and konqueror hangs. Then I have to kill nspluginviewer so that konqueror starts working (it still doesnt play the song). No sooner I kill nspluginviewer I get following error on terminal. DCOP aborting call from 'konqueror-<pid>' to 'nspluginviewer-<pid>' Both the commands still work if run as root or deepak, first command works for all. As far as I remember I have not made any changes to system. So I dont know whats going wrong. Mostly its nspluginviewer or some problem with something related to DCOP or some configuration. But I dont know what. Or can it be some konqueror security related to local browsing and web browsing, like in IE? But where are such options? I would be thankful if someone has solution. Thank you. Amish.

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Help to install freeepascal / Lazarus
by Nilesh Singit 04 Jul '03

04 Jul '03

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