Linuxers February 2005

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Re: how to connect to internet using sify broadband
by abhilash kumar 20 Feb '05

20 Feb '05

>hi, >i have taken a sify broadband connection. but i can >connect to it only from windows as it has its dialer. >how do i connect to it from linux. Visit there website without logging in(www.sify.com). This will connect u to there default webpage for all the users connected thru lan.Somthing like (http://210.210.4.74:81/downloaddialer.php). There will be a link like "GNU/Linux users click here to download the Sify Broadband client ". Download this image and uncompress it and follow the installation mentioned in the readme file. Abhilash ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] EDGE GPRS on Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Feb '05

20 Feb '05

On Sunday 20 February 2005 00:35, Chirag Arjun Bhangale wrote: > Has anyone tried EDGE GPRS on Linux? The GPRS service is a terrible farce. Afaik no cell company is providing edge. And it should not make a difference to GNU/Linux. EDGE is gprs on top of some fancy GSM modulation and compression. The handset and SP should have EDGE capability. The rest is ye ole ppp. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] USB HDD / Laptop Installation problem.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Feb '05

20 Feb '05

On Sunday 20 February 2005 00:23, nishit shah wrote: > I'll be getting a freecom 160 GB 3.5" USB hard disk drive on which > i have to install redhat linux 9 which, when needed , is connected > to my Toshiba Satellite Laptop. First check if the laptop bios can boot from a usb hard drive. Some can but only from a fat16 partition. I have not come across one which boots directly from a non fat16 usb drive. If yours can boot from a non fat16 partition then u have no problems. Install the regular way. Else create a small (minimum size will have to be 16MB - smaller ones involve too many complications) fat 16 partition (1st primary) and other linux partitions as per your needs. Make the fat16 partition bootable.Boot from cdrom with your distro. Install linux on the linux partitions in /dev/sda?. After completing the installations boot from your distro cd in rescue mode. In case of debian woody "rescbf24 root=/dev/sda5 does the job. Next run syslinux "syslinux /dev/sda". Mount the fat 16 partition "mount -t msdos /dev/sda1 /mnt". You should have a file ldlinux.sys in the fat16 partition. Create a syslinux.cfg file with the relevant entries. (read the syslinux man pages).This will give you various boot options. Copy your kernel image to the fat16 partition "cp /vmlinuz /mnt". Reboot. Alternately you may use loadlin from a dos partition, or install lilo or grub on the regular harddrive with an entry to boot from the usb disk. rgds jtd

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help
by vidya bhosale 19 Feb '05

19 Feb '05

hi everybody, i am new to linux. plz tell me from where to download the mplayer patch for redhat EL v.3 if the address where i am posting my mail is wrong then plz tell where to post mails for mailing list vidya

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EDGE GPRS on Linux
by Chirag Arjun Bhangale 19 Feb '05

19 Feb '05

Has anyone tried EDGE GPRS on Linux? If yes, which handset service provider. Regards Chirag.

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USB HDD / Laptop Installation problem.
by nishit shah 19 Feb '05

19 Feb '05

I'll be getting a freecom 160 GB 3.5" USB hard disk drive on which i have to install redhat linux 9 which, when needed , is connected to my Toshiba Satellite Laptop. I wont be connecting my external HDD all the time to my Laptop and i want to install linux in the USB drive. So how do i go about doing it. It should be like plug n play, when needed connect to the Laptop and boot into linux . Wot about device drivers ? Will the installation process be any different than the normal installation process? I have to do the installation on monday as i'll be gettin the USB drive by then. Thx

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INDIA: Computer programme patenting may brake IT boom
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1023943.cms Computer programme patenting may brake IT boom TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2005 06:17:58 PM] NEW DELHI: Imagine a scenario where a music composer is prevented from being inspired by another musician. He has to start from scratch and give an entirely new definition to music. Unimaginable, isn't it? Now replace 'music' with 'software' and this is what the Indian government is seeking to do. Or so some critics argue. The amendments to the Indian Patent Act introduced by a recent Ordinance will allow all computer programmes to be patented. The Indian Patent Act, as modified in 2002, had made "a mathematical method or a business method or a computer programme per se or algorithms" non-patentable. However, the recent amendment changes this phrase defining what cannot be patented to "a computer programme per se other than its technical application to industry or a combination with hardware, a mathematical or business method or algorithms." Since any commercial software has some industry application and these applications are technical in nature, it opens virtually all software to patenting, say the critics of the move. As a booming software nation, can India afford to take such a step without harming interests of the industry? These were concerns expressed at a press conference organised by the Delhi Science Forum on Tuesday. The US and Japan, they said, are two countries that have provided for patent protection in software, which has adversely impacted smaller developers. European Parliament has been forced to defer software patenting in the wake of widespread opposition to such a move. A patent in the case of software grants monopoly control over not just the 'expression' of a function or idea in computer code, which could be covered by copyright, but over the very idea itself. Thus, software would be covered by both copyright and patents, perhaps the only instance of a product being underpinned by both. Richard Stallman, co-developer of the GNU-Linux operating system and proponent of free software says, "Since software patents cover software ideas, it makes them a dangerous obstacle to all software development." An example is Amazon's singleclick agreement. Amazon.com was granted a patent on a system that remembers customer credit card data from visit to visit, so that customers could, on all visits after their first, simply order products and then click once to buy them using a stored credit card number. After two rounds of litigation, this patent was upheld and Amazon was able to prevent its chief competitor, barnesandnoble.com, from using a similar system. The main argument against software patenting is that it will kill innovations, by leaving small firms or software developers liable for patent infringements. "That's like saying, be the greatest genius in history or don't even try", said Stallman. Small developers will always be fighting with their backs to the wall as they would not have the financial muscle to compete with dominant players in the market. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://fn-floss.notlong.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. --Aristotle

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[NEWS] Gnome 2.10
by Prasanta Baruah 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

Hi guys, Gnome 2.10 is gonna be out on 9th March. Have a sneak peek at GNOME 2.10 http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-10/ -- :-) [ Life was a funny thing that happened to me on the way to the grave ] (-:

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Ideal LAMP versions to work with
by Vinayakam Murugan 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

Hello What would be the suggested stable versions of Apache, MySQL & PHP to work with. We are still using PHP 4.2.3 . MySQL 4.1 & Apache 2.0. MySQL has 4.x tree and 5.x tree. Apache has 1.3.x Tree and 2.x tree I am a bit confused as to which version do we need to upgrade to? -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayak

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] dir /s
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:25:31AM +0530, Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) wrote: >>O_this_T Could someone let me know what is the equivalent of a Windows 'dir /s Image*.*' in linux. >>Am trying to get a bit familiar with Linux Shell commands using CygWin on my office m/c. >>Couldn't get it from the man page either. >Which man page? The 'the' man page? >ls -R is recursive ls. >You might want 'find', though. >Satya. http://www.thesatya.com/ I meant the ls man page. ls -R does not seem to consider the pattern that I give it i.e. Image*.*. After wading thru the find man page, It seems that 'find -iname Image*' is what I've been looking for. Anyone has a shorter(read better) command, please post. Thanks Satya. Gishu

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