Linuxers April 2005

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64 bit kernel
by santosh rao 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

hi all. we compiled kernel 2.6.9 with arch x86-64, the kernel compiled fine, but the bloddy kernel wont take the "NIC" , i have a asus k8n dl motherboard. when i compile 2.6.11 the kernel wont get the sata_nv controller which it does in the 2.6.9 kern.. Both havin the same .config file. i have a feelin tht thr is come irq sharing issue... during the fly i can c the it says irq sharing disabled. Can anybody assist in any way we have recompiled glibc , gcc , binutils with 64 bit arch. -- Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take; out by the moments that take our breath away. Regards Santosh Rao

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Window less Office
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

On Wednesday 20 April 2005 10:05, Richard Chang wrote: > Hi Everyone, > In our endeavour to implement a Windoze less office, I would like > to add something. I am planning to implement FLOSS in my office > network of 7 computers. No accounting packages, no frills network. > Just Peer-to-Peer and connected to the Net thru one of the PCs' > using the ICS in Win XP. Predominantly use Word, Excel and Mailing. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 10:14:23AM -0400, Satya wrote: > >>server thru which we can chat within our office. Is there any > >> such application thru which we can chat, using "gaim" or > >> something. Provided we are not connected to the Net always. I > >> want to be able to chat with > > > >Yes, Jabber. Install ejabberd or something on one of the Linux > > boxes. or gnugk and openmcu and gnomemeeting and elcheapo netcams and u can have internal videoconferencing and chatting. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Acer Aspire 1362 with Amd sempron
by Binulal Narayanan 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

R. K. Rajeev wrote: > Dear Binulal, > > i've installed FC3 on an Aspire 1362, and in order to get the graphics > working, all i had to do was download the rpm's for VIA UniChrome support. But Aspire 3002 has got a Sis M760GX Chipset despite the K8M800 of 1362. I installed SUSE pro 9.2 (eval) with VESA driver. It works fine at 1024x768@70Hz. There's AmoroK for mp3s. Videos; i'ven't tried Kaffeine yet. BTW, Tried to install Win Xp and Solaris. Windows sucks big time. same with Solaris. > I googled it, and found it at ww.viaarena.con somewhere. Once i got > it installed, i got DRI, GLX and OpenGL 1.3 support. Even tried out > Unreal Tournament 2003, and it was quite playable at the low quality > settings even. And also, u get Mplayer with XvMC support, i.e. > hardware mpeg/mpeg2 decoding. Watching DVD's rock even... Cool! and Impressive. I'll also have a look at it.. BTW, did you manage to get ACPI working? Fedora seems okay, but SUSE kernel gets stuck in between. > do check it out. > > Regards > R. K. Rajeev Thanks Binulal Narayanan

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT]MTNL TriBand Connection
by Dinesh Joshi 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

>From: "Amol Hatwar" <amol(a)hatwar.org> > > But dont you think the data cap is too much? I mean 450MB @ > > 256Kbps is nothing... > >You mean too less... I meant highly capped. Too much restriction on use... >MTNL has another captcha... It doesn't give upload speeds over 128kbps. But thats expected since they are using ADSL. And basically, we downloaders, dont need excessive upstream bandwidth. Regards, Dinesh. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

On Wednesday 20 April 2005 13:51, Vickram Crishna wrote: > At 11:44 AM +0530 4/13/05, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > his help would probably have worked). Many thanks to both of you, > but I am sorry to say I still need help. Always welcome as long as you are doing your bit which is trying. > > >title deb-2.6.10 > >root(hd0,0) > >kernel /vmlinuz boot=/dev/hda1 dma acpi append="whatever" > > > >here is my menu.lst > > I could boot up using the RH9 install disk and going to the command > line, but failed miserably to find the menu.lst file. Ok copy and paste my menu.lst in your grub partition then edit it to suit your installation. note grub is installed in my mbr. > > My question is, can I manually write an entirely new boot loader to > MBR without reinstalling Yes you can but that is avoided by even the linux grey beards. You have to use dd. In the case of floppies dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 count=1 bs=1024 dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 seek=1 bs=512 Ofcourse it is also a nice way to SCREW your harddisk. > (especially since even the install disk > didn't seem to be able to do that automatically, and the Ubuntu > installer wants to rewrite the partitions, which I guess will lose > me the RH9 installation)? My active partitions (ext3 fs) are hda6 > (/) and hda7 (/usr), and I have hda8 (swap) also. Other partitions > on the disk are Windows98 fs where I already have a Win98 > installation and data. You have to install grub only once: grub-install /dev/hda After that you only need to edit ../grub/menu.lst or cut and paste the lines below into a text file called menu.lst and save it to ../grub root (hd0,5) boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 title deb-2.6.10 root (hd0,5) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda6 idebus=66 append="hdd=ide-scsi dma apm=power-off" #the above line is a single line dont wrap it. title win root (hd0,1) # hide (hd0,4) rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Abhishek Daga 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

--- Dinesh Joshi <dinesh_pro(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >From: Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga(a)yahoo.com> > Cool. I too am waiting for reliance BB. Atleast they have a decent 10GB > limit and affordable connections(128Kbps for Rs.750). But I want unmetered > downloads! I think MTNL has the potential but someone has to take the lead I > hope someone does and we, customers, benefit from it! :) > > Regards, > I asked the phone lady at MTNL when booking my triband why they are not giving unlimited downloads. Her reply was , "kya sir, humko bhi to kamaney kaa hai". VErbatim!!. Ofcourse my area has still not seen triband infra so maybe it was a blessing in disguise. Also, Be Warned, my neighboring office got the Dishnet (now TATA) broadband at 1 GB limit for 2100/month (128 kbps) a year ago plus. The bill always came to 6000 or so. Now, it is possible that their systems are screwed up, but we figured that it was also because there were n viruses or whatever on pretty much every machine (around 10) on the network that were sending data packets out resulting in their meter being running 24x7. So before getting broadband, broaden your horizons and go linux. (even desktops I mean). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Dinesh Joshi 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

>From: "R. K. Rajeev" <rajeevrk(a)myrealbox.com> >Dear dinesh, >have a look at Pacenet. they are not in all areas, but i know that they are >in many parts of mumbai. I pay rs 900 for a 64k line, with no download >limits at all. and the 128k like is about 1500, i think. and i have 2 >nic's, and share the link with both my parents laptops, no problemo. And >the fun part is, my average monthly download is 15GB+(i have to fill in my >total disk space of 360 GB na.), and i dont pay one pie extra. if u want >unlimited downloads, do check them out. When u work out the cost i'd pay >for the extra transfer, no other cable isp, not even reliance can compete. >hope it works out for you. > >Regards >Rajeev R. K. Hi Rajeev, Thanks for the info. I already checked out pacenet. It has good offers. Even seven star has great offers but the problem is everybody has port caps plus they dont provide 128Kbps UL plans. If they do then they are really costly. I am actually thinking of starting up a broadband company! I cant stand these pathetic plans anymore! Regards, Dinesh. _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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[OT] Acer Aspire 1362 with Amd sempron
by Binulal Narayanan 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

Hello: I plan to buy an Acer Aspire 1362. Could anybody tell me about "Acer Aspire 1362" product rating and linux compatibilty? Do anybody already own this? How is the performace? Please give suggestions/advice in this regard. Thanks in advance Binulal Narayanan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by Vickram Crishna 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

At 11:44 AM +0530 4/13/05, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >On Tuesday 12 April 2005 18:44, Vickram Crishna wrote: >> Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB >> failure, Error 15. > >Afair error 15=file not found. means your root partition is not set >properly in grub. Note grub partition numbers begin with zero so if >root is on first ide drive first partition your grub menu.lst >would look like I had the borrowed RH9 disks for a few days, and spent many entertaining hours trying to figure out exactly what Sherlock meant by what seemed on the face of it to be perfectly simple instructions. In fact, Ryan also sent a very simple guide the next day, but possibly the difference there was about whether the bootloader was installed in MBR (yes, I hope) or not (in which case his help would probably have worked). Many thanks to both of you, but I am sorry to say I still need help. > >title deb-2.6.10 >root(hd0,0) >kernel /vmlinuz boot=/dev/hda1 dma acpi append="whatever" > >here is my menu.lst > I could boot up using the RH9 install disk and going to the command line, but failed miserably to find the menu.lst file. > >You dont need to reload grub once it is installed, just edit >/boot/grub/menu.lst >> Now unfortunately I do not have the RH9 disks anymore (though I may get another copy back in a day or two), but it didn't seem to be a major hassle, since I still have my Ubuntu Live CD, from which I can see my whole system graphically and execute line commands as well. As I mentioned before, I had an issue with the install CD of Ubuntu, which failed to install correctly (in fact, not at all), the Live CD works fine. RH9 installs correctly, except for the problem with Grub (at least, I hope that's the only problem, or like Arnie, I'll be back). Right now, I just can't find the menu.lst file, nor can I locate even the grub.conf file. Maybe neither one has properly installed at all? The /grub folder inside the /boot folder contains the following files: device.map e2fs_stage1_5 fat_stage1_5 ffs_stage1_5 jfs_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 stage1 stage2 vstafs_stage1_5 xfs_stage1_5, and a folder: splash.xpm.gz My question is, can I manually write an entirely new boot loader to MBR without reinstalling (especially since even the install disk didn't seem to be able to do that automatically, and the Ubuntu installer wants to rewrite the partitions, which I guess will lose me the RH9 installation)? My active partitions (ext3 fs) are hda6 (/) and hda7 (/usr), and I have hda8 (swap) also. Other partitions on the disk are Windows98 fs where I already have a Win98 installation and data. I have looked up various Linux help sites after googling, but they advise on editing the existing grub and lilo bootloaders, not writing new ones. -- Vickram

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by vaibhav samant 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

>DNS. Or rather reverse lookup. Add a local (within LAN) DNS server >with forward and reverse entries for your local machines and make sure >this server is queried first. Your problem of "late prompt" will >disappear. ---------------------------- >Alternatively uou can add the entry in the local machines host file. Also add an entry for your machine on the remote host > Hi Chirag, Could you help me.... what entry do I need to add in my HOST file on Win2k PC as the client from where I SSH. Assuming the following: Client: Win2K with Putty. IP: 192.168.0.100 PC Name: Vai Server: Linux 19: 192.168.0.1 hostname: foo.mydom.com Thx in advance. regards, Vai

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