Linuxers June 2006

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exchange with ms exchange
by Steven Joseph 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

Hi, is there any way to get mail from m$ exchange to kmail. -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

> Debarshi, > The amount of energy you are expending in hating microsoft is so huge that > if you'd have started writing some code instead of that, you'd have a OS > much better than MS and Linux combined !! I was doing something like that when this whole discussion popped up on my mailing list. Nothing bad in taking a break though. ;-) Regards, Debarshi

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Re: Installing Fedora Core on other's hard disk?
by Roshan 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

> It's likely that it won't work out of the box. I'd > recommend setting it > up to boot into run level 3 by default. The major > problem would be with > X configuration, so once it boots into run level 3 > on his computer, > reconfigure X with the right display driver, and > switch back to run > level 5. I have no idea how to do this, but I'll find out some documentation, and may be attempt it. > you may want to trim your signature to be just about > 2-3 lines long. Yes. I would. I have "Use my signature" checked, by default, and when I forget to uncheck it before sending it to the list, the "biggie siggi" appears in the mail. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Eben Moglen and Cory Doctorow Videos
by Venkatesh Hariharan 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

At the recently held Red Hat Summit in Nashville, Eben Moglen, General Counsel for the Free Software Foundation, and Chairman of Software Freedom Law Center spoke about software patents. Cory Doctorow, noted science fiction writer, spoke about Digital Rights Management and copyrights. Both these speeches were highly appreciated by the audience. The videos of the same are now at: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/videos/ Highly recommended! Apart from the videos, there is a whole bunch of news, blogs etc. From the Gnu/Linux Users Group perspective, what may be most relevant are the technical presentations archived at: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/presentations/cos.htm Regards, Venky

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[OT] AIX on Intel.
by Nadeem M. Khan 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

Hi. Is there any way by which I can install IBM AIX on Intel platforms? Maybe a power pc simulator? Google's results were discouraging. I need an AIX test server which I can muck up but dont have a spare pSeries to do so. Regards, NMK.

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[commercial] Hiring GNU/Linux administrators
by TAC Forums 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

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e: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

First of all, has anybody on the list seen Revolution OS? It is a small documentary. I think I have a copy so junta can take it from me if required. > Right now they have made a "contribution" of US$30million to Mass. > government to "help" needy students buy M$ malware. Funny they dont > offer it to everybody - only those insisting on Open standards. And > in an attempt to get a future legal handle they are fast racking > their version of XML in two rubber stamp "standards" organisation. During the same visit to M$, they talked about a scheme where low-cost limited edition of their .Net stuff was to be given to colleges for their students' to use. Forgive me for not remembering what 'low-cost limited' exactly meant. But then the employees were very proud of the fact that the Gates Foundation has donated generously for the betterment of AIDS patients and so on. However on being informed that a certain Bram Moolenaar- author of vi, does organize donations for poor children in Uganda the M$ people came up with the "Why at all Linux" thing. Secondly the guys at M$ seem to be extremely satisfied with the fact that most (according to them an overwhelming majority) of the people are using Winblows. That they say is the clinching factor. They are even more pleased to note that most of my class-mates are Windoze lovers, and they are the ones to be tomorrows CEOs. However they do not mind that atleast 60% to 75% of these users use pirated copies. And today's pirates would be tomorrow's CEOs according to them. The thing is proprietary software is a pain in most cases, if not all, and M$ aggressively pursues it. My friends at BARC's Remote Handling and Robotics Division experienced a similar problem RMS had faced at MIT's AI Labs. These fellows at BARC have bought a nice digital compas from Honeywell. The demo program which apparently demonstrates how to operate the thing is a mere EXE and the code is not available. In the absence of it, nobody has got any idea how to program the thing and use it in a robot. BARC I am given to believe is central to India's fundamental R&D and this is how the situation is. The whole impression that people (Winblows users actually) get today is that Windoze is the 'standard' thing, and that GNU/Linux is the real trouble. eg., you can not install Windoze after you put on GNU/Linux, Fedora does not come with MP3 support while Windoze has no problem, etc.. People seem to miss the point that it is Windoze that overwrites the bootloader entries while GNU/Linux appends, that MP3 is patented and M$ pays for it, and so on... Regards, Debarshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxformat in India
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

>> if you notice that the average student outside the Mumbai metropolitan >> region spends more than that on fuel alone. > Fuel?? You're certainly talking about a different class of people > here. I (and most of educated India, AFAIK) don't spend on fuel. > Mostly its on bus and train fare ;-). And why do the buses and trains require you to buy the tickets? Only to pay the drivers? I thought they ran on some fuel too. In my opinion Rs 100-Rs150 for a really good quality magazine is not too much. Googling is ok, but having a hard copy still counts. Not everywhere in India do you get good stable Internet connections, and so using the net is still remains a pain for some. And remember the Internet also costs some amount. Lets not confuse a 'good FOSS magazine' with the ones we already have like Digit, PCQ, etc.. In my opinion they often advertise proprietary software that runs on otherwise Free OSes. Hence they do not serve the purpose. Bye, Debarshi

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Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by jtd 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

July 2008 favourite punching bag will resign from M$ as chief software architect. The orginal PR stated that he was resiginig as Chairman. But a clarification from billybaba says that he will remain chairman forever. Hopefully the rest of the garbage will remove itself too and there will be some real architecture in place of spahgetti. -- Rgds JTD

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School days
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

> In my school, one day the boys got together to shout > "bhago bhago" just when the class was about to get over. It became a > very serious matter involving the principal too. He threatened the > entire class with punishment unless the guilty persons owned up. One of > our classmates admitted that he only said "bha", he did not say "go" as > the teacher had turned around by then. This amused everyone and we were > let of with a small punishment. :) Well something similar happened when i was in class X. The library was lit up with lights which were distributed across two phases. Once one of the phases went kaput, and we the perennial back-benchers found ourselves in the darker part of the library. I initiated a 'Andhera Kayam Rahe', inspired from the crook in the Shaktiman series, which soon spread like woildfire. Things took an ugly turn, and I was taken to the principal on admitting that I had done it. Luckily the punishment turned out to be much lesser than was promised initially. Cheers, Debarshi

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Linuxers June 2006