Linuxers January 2007

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[Commercial] Unix Test Engineer openings with Symantec, Pune
by Sharninder 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Greetings Linuxers, My team is looking for Test/QA engineers with 0-4 years of experience on unix/linux. The work would involve filesystem and volume manager testing. Freshers with good unix/linux knowledge may also apply. Please send me your resumes offlist. Regards, Sharninder ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

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SCO ties up with Guj Govt.!!!!
by jtd 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Of all the idiotic things governments do, this should take the cake. http://www.crn-india.com/breakingnews/stories/69504.html -- Rgds JTD

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Software Wars
by Vihan Pandey 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Hello, This was posted on fsf-friends, i thought i'll share it with all of you :-) The war goes on : http://mshiltonj.com/software_wars/archive/20060129/ Previous battles : http://mshiltonj.com/software_wars/ Regards, - vihan

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Fwd: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
by Aseem Rane 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Forwarding my bigger mail after ruthlessly trimming it ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Aseem Rane Date: Jan 14, 2007 4:34 AM i am basically building upon the millions(possibly) spent by the creator in > developing, market research for usability and marketing. In FOSS world you need not spend millions developing a software. The community participation builds on the software. Even when companies like Trolltech or MySQL started out as non-free software, down the line they decided to release it as GPL under dual licensing. They might have spent millions on the development but still releasing their software under GPL made perfect sense to them. Probably you can use these examples as case studies. But saying that he should release as distributable is infringing upon his > moral right!(this is indirectly implied when you dub his software as not > free (as in freedom)) FSF people believes in a certain philosophy and they preach it. If you are not convinced they do not adopt any illegal or immoral ways to make you go their way. If you are not convinced they will repeatedly try to convince you. In my opinion there is no "infringing upon his moral right!" here. whether to release your software under GPL solely depends on you. If you do not agree with FSF find a license suitable for your requirements or roll on your own. but just because FOSS philosophy says > that freedom software should be distributable free of charge does not mean > > that it's right. The FOSS philosophy DOES NOT say that you should distribute the software free of charge. Remember Free as in Beer Vs Free as in Freedom??

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
by Debarshi Ray 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

> He has already evaluated brl cad and qcad. What about Varkon? Regards, Debarshi -- Rgds JTD -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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[Commercial]LinuxAsia 2007 - Call for Speakers (dates corrected)
by Niraj Sahay 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Dear friends, Please excuse me for posting this again with corrected dates. This year, LinuxAsia's main goal is to promote open source innovations from India. Hence, the organising committee (FOSII) invites 'technologists' and 'innovators' from all over India to speak at LinuxAsia 07. The speaker registration page is available at http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/speakers1/speaker.php The broad genre of talks that are invited include: a) Presentations on innovative open source projects developed in India or by Indians. b) Presentations on latest developments in key open source technologies and tools (ex; Eclipse, MySQL, Mono, etc) c) Presentations on initiatives to promote open source innovations in India (ex: Apache) The three-day event has been divided into following broad technology-verticals: First day (31st Jan 07): Trends and innovations in overall open source technologies and desktop technologies Second day (1st Feb 07): Technology trends and innovations w.r.t. software development and databases Third day (2nd Feb 07): Technology trends and innovations w.r.t. tools for IT implementation and network management Please note, that the speaker registration will end on 19th January 2007, and all speaker presentations will be finalised by 22nd January 2007 (evening). Looking forward to your support in taking open source innovations from India to the next level. Best Wishes! Niraj Sahay Team, LinuxAsia 07

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[Commercial]LinuxAsia 2007 - Call for Speakers
by Niraj Sahay 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Dear friends, This year, LinuxAsia's main goal is to promote open source innovations from India. Hence, the organising committee (FOSII) invites 'technologists' and 'innovators' from all over India to speak at LinuxAsia 07. The speaker registration page is available at http://www.linuxasia.net/la07/speakers1/speaker.php The broad genre of talks that are invited include: a) Presentations on innovative open source projects developed in India or by Indians. b) Presentations on latest developments in key open source technologies and tools (ex; Eclipse, MySQL, Mono, etc) c) Presentations on initiatives to promote open source innovations in India (ex: Apache) The three-day event has been divided into following broad technology-verticals: First day (31st Jan 07): Trends and innovations in overall open source technologies and desktop technologies Second day (1st Jan 07): Technology trends and innovations w.r.t. software development and databases Third day (2nd Jan 07): Technology trends and innovations w.r.t. tools for IT implementation and network management Please note, that the speaker registration will end on 19th January 2007, and all speaker presentations will be finalised by 22nd January 2007 (evening). Looking forward to your support in taking open source innovations from India to the next level. Best Wishes! Niraj Sahay Team, LinuxAsia 07

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MTNL Triband - SSH
by Hozefa Motiwala 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Hi ! I have a Linux box connected to MTNL triband by D-Link Dsl 502 router. The triband connection also has a Live ip. my query is: 1.) I have opened the iptables for ssh port 22, on the linux box but still cannot get to thru from outside. I have connected the router in bridge mode. Please suggest changes required in the router to enable SSH. Thanks Hozefa.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
by Parthan 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Sachin G Nambiar wrote: > > Because by doing so, > > he is infringing on the record labels copyright. Thats what copyrights & > > patents are for! To prevent misuse and to protect the > > originator/creator.[point 2] That's why we have been saying patents are *not good*. A song is a way of expressing your feelings, its not a property or an innovation, its a feeling and you want to convey your feelings to others. If you dont want it to be distributable, why you ever release it as a music album ? Ya, I agree you want to make money out of it, but its also true that people think that you ask more money than what they feel its all worth of and hence piracy. > > When i buy a software i have a right to use it in any way i wish. But > > when i distribute it as if it were my own(even with modifications), iam > > basically building upon the millions(possibly) spent by the creator in > > developing, market research for usability and marketing. This is were you are terribly mistaken the whole idea, even a practically proven fact! When you give your software to some one, 1. he uses it 2. If he feels it good in doing his job, a. he suggests the same to his friends. But, his friends also wish to test is themselves so he needs to *distribute*. b. he thinks he can help you in improving the software still better, so he contributes 3. He find some bugs in the software and if he is skilled, gets you some patches so your software becomes less buggy. Hence, when he shares/distributes the software with his friends, more eyes are looking into the software and hence more bugs get *solved* and your software improves. 4. So, its not the only user you gave your software to, but its 10 and 100s of others who voluntarily involve themselves in improving *your* software, just because they like it and think it is useful than others. You need not spend *millions* in this manner to make your software reach high quality, feature richness or get a huge user base. And, a developer who has the skill to create software, and if he is indeed really interested in helping the community with good quality software, will indeed follow the FOSS philosophy we all stand for and not the one which you have misunderstood. The creator has > > every right to stop me from distributing the software because as a > > creator he/she has every right to control who gets the software and who > > does not! Please understand the following 1. Software is knowledge, and hence should be characterized with free-flow, i.e. nothing should prevent it from reaching a user. 2. Software is just a idea made into action. Every person on this earth can have the same idea and find a means of making it do what it is intended to. Nobody owns knowledge or an idea, its all damn stupid if you say *I own an idea*. 3. If you say only the *creator* has the right to give the software to some one and he controls who gets the software and who do not, then that *creator* is going to mess himself to his own end. > > The creator likes the society as a whole to be benefited thats why he > > made the software, but not at his expense! If he does not it's a different > > matter. But saying that he should release as distributable is infringing > > upon his moral right!(this is indirectly implied when you dub his > > software as not free (as in freedom)) If he has truly written something for the benefit of the community then why say 'he decides who uses the *thing* and who doesn't'. If he is really society conscious then its the *society* that should decide whether to use his *thing* or not. And this will occur when the society is free enough to share and test your *thing*. > > If FOSS philosphy says explicitly that every software should be freely > > distributable, then it is infringing upon the fundamental right of the > > creator. If the software is not freely distributable, then its *useless*. If the farmer says he only can determine who eats the rice grown in his field, all his grains are going to rot! If the creator wishes it to be distributed then it's fine. But > > he should have his say. I can choose to modify a particular software > > and sell it under a different license. Selling is not a problem at all, sharing/distribution is the question you are raising against! Yes, i agree who writes the software has the right to do whatever he wants with it, but he has no right to prevent distribution of the software and still want it to call it as *free software*, let him call it as proprietary software, we have nothing against him then. It's a fundamental moral infringement upon the > > creators right. You being able to use a distributable software is your > > privilege not your right! > > LOL! Moral being will share their resources with one another and help for improvement and betterment of one another. Not prevent the freedom of free knowledge just because he losses an additional $$. If you call something as *free software* then free distribution becomes a right. It actually causes the software to reach more users, get more contribution, see much more improvement in quality and hence reach higher heights! If you do not understand or go along with our ideologies of sharing software as knowledge, then our mailing list is not the place to express your ideologies which can not be accepted by us. We agree to the human's right to make money, but we can not accept it or implement it in our way of life. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com

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Creative Commons India launch on Jan 26th @ IIT Bombay
by Venkatesh Hariharan 14 Jan '07

14 Jan '07

Conference Announcement Creative Commons, India Launch Creative Commons, India [cc-india.org] will be launched on January 26th [4:00 pm to 6:00 pm] at F.C. Kohli auditorium, KReSIT at IIT Bombay, Mumbai. See IIT B Map for directions: www.iitb.ac.in/campus/howto/iitblayout.html [Building No. 37] Confirmed speakers at the launch event: Mr. Joichi Ito [Chairman, Creative Commons] Dr. Catharina Maracke [Creative Commons, Global Coordinator] Dr. Shuddhabrata Sengupta [SARAI-CSDS, New Delhi] - To be confirmed Mr. Nandu Pradhan [President and Managing Director, Red Hat, India] Prof. Deepak Phatak [KReSIT, IIT Bombay] Lawrence Liang [Legal Lead, Creative Commons, India] Brief on Mr. Joichi Ito Mr. Joichi Ito is a Japanese-born and American-educated businessman who has many areas of interest and expertise. He was recently been appointed the Chairman of Creative Commons. He is also the Chairman of iCommons [the international Creative Commons]. He runs the World of Warcraft guild, which is composed of several venture capitalists, CEOs and other influential members of the Internet economy. He also wears many other hats. He is, among other things, general manager of international operations for Technorati, chairman of Six Apart Japan, founder and chief executive of venture capital firm Neoteny, and a board member of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers [ICANN], Mozilla Foundation and the Open Source Initiative. He is is also the founder of Digital Garage, PSINet, Japan and Infoseek, Japan. Mr. Ito will speak about the importance of Creative Commons for a growing global digital culture in light of the launch of the Indian creative commons jurisdiction on January 26th. The intimate interaction between technology, law and culture in digital products is creating new challenges for enterprises, individuals and other organizations. How is the digital landscape getting altered with the emergence of licenses such as creative commons? Can new models be envisaged which will seriously accommodate the sharing ethos of the common individual? These and many more issues will be addressed by Mr. Joi Ito. << Other Events: Two parallel workshops on Creative Commons: January 26th - 27th 1. Do We Need Remix? [ www.techfest.org/workshops/remix/ ] 2. Sharing Is Creating [ www.techfest.org/workshops/sic/ ] Please contact Shishir K. Jha, Project Lead, CC-India for further details: Shailesh J. Mehta School of Management IIT Bombay Powai Mumbai, 400 076 E-mail: skjha[at]iitb.ac.in Tel: 022-25767845

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Linuxers January 2007