Linuxers June 2007

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Ubuntu, Mark Shuttleworth - Featured on BBC World - Click (this week)
by Roshan 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

List, In few days, you'll be able to see the entire show (of this week) on their website at http://www.bbcworld.com/click In case, those formats (video) are unacceptable, you can view the interview with Mark Shuttleworth, on the following YouTube Link http://youtube.com/watch?v=fk92zMa84aU Alternatively, if you watch / would like to watch it on television, tune in tomorrow at 12:00 noon on BBC World. Is it possible that Click can offer an archive of this entire show in Ogg format? Or using a screenrecorder in windows, can this be converted to a format such as .avi? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them at in.groups.yahoo.com

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Fedora Core 7 (32-bit) DVD
by Roshan 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

List, If any one is willing to burn a copy of Fedora Core 7 (32-bit) DVD, please do so. Get details on the following URL (3rd entry, currently) http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/CDs_Wanted -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

> > > I do recall reading somewhere that we can disable it by passing some > > kernel parameter too. > > Google suggests this > > Append selinux=0 to kernel line in grub. > > enforcing=0 > > And if you're using some Red Hat based distro (Mandriva too I think), the > config file should be somewhere in /etc/sysconfig you mean adding selinux=0 AND enforcing=0 in the kernel line in grub will close down selinux? And there's no config which looks like related to selinux by name in /etc...........I tried a find.....no luck! > > SELinux can be controlled through GUI. In Mandriva he should go to > System > Configure your computer > ..... and I did that...tried searching for SElinux....poked around in security....no go....... Regards, Easwar

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[OT] Issues using xemacs as a lisp IDE
by Mohan Nayaka 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Hi all, I tried to use xemacs as a lisp ide using slime. i referred to slime and xemacs' inbuilt info documentation but still haven't succeeded in configuring it properly. Since this topic may not be of interest to all, I am putting in a description of my efforts so far in an attachment so that it can be ignored (instead of being flamed) more conveniently. Regards, Mohan S N -- "Certainty of death, small chance of success... well, what're we waiting for? " - Gimli to the Captains of the West

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22
by Easwar Hariharan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

> > > > go to /etc/selinux/config > > > > > > SELINUX=disabled > > > > Whoops!No directory named selinux in my /etc.There's security AND > securetty > > though..... > > Did you do a customized install of SELinux? I am a newbie,did only the default options,except for adding more than 1 Desktop Manager to the options.....ie I selected KDE AND Gnome ....... Anyway, if you have installed it properly(where ever it is), try to > find the config file which should probably be in the selinux directory > itself. > > I do recall reading somewhere that we can disable it by passing some > kernel parameter too. > Google suggests this > Append selinux=0 to kernel line in grub. I will try that.......... Regards, Easwar

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 19
by Easwar Hariharan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

> >How do I switch off SELinux > > go to /etc/selinux/config > > SELINUX=disabled Whoops!No directory named selinux in my /etc.There's security AND securetty though..... on your next reboot it'll be off. > > >and what's the > > > criteria for judging whether I need it or not? > > at the bare minimum : > > 7% performance overhead(plus training incompetent adimins if you have any) I don't,I use Linux at home...... v/s > > Better access control > > > SELinux is for highly critical security needs. Most people don't need it > on > > desktop machines. But it is good thing to learn. > > http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELinux > > Positively Brilliant answer :P > > Only a little more clarity would have helped. > > > If I remember correctly MS was against SE(Security-Enhanced) being added > to > > linux. > > and where did you get this from? Please do share it with the rest of us. Thanx Regards, Easwar

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Error running SERVLET program.
by Rishikesh Khanolkar 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

hi, all linuxers........ i have installed sun-java6 and all other required packages required to run java programs, everything compiles and runs fine.For running servlet and JSP i was installing TOMCAT from aptitude package manager which worked succesfully....... but it dint work,i had to manually download tarballs and had to do the installation manually as google is the friend..... but wen i go ahead compiling a servlet program i get "The import javax.servlet cannot be resolved" error, which means that the servlet package are missin, Hope i get some help here, i suspect some servlet API must b required. -- HaVe A Gr8 TiMe, Take Care, Я เรђ เ.

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Re: * Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re:Third time loss of luser account
by jtd 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

On Wednesday 06 June 2007 02:05, Vihan Pandey wrote: > Institution was being funded my M$. Moreover the statement ``while > the software giant does fund the institution, it doesn't fund any > specific research" is pretty dubious :-) Not dubious at all. The statement means M$ did not fund any specific research, therefore consider everything coming from here to be tainted and crap. -- Rgds JTD

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Broadcomm Linux Drivers
by Rony 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Hello All, Here are 2 useful links to the Broadcom Linux drivers. http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices .....This is the list of devices supported. As the site mentions, new kernels have the drivers in-built. "This driver was included into the Linux kernel since 2.6.17-rc2." -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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A Full Aubuntu.
by Praveen A 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com>: > He is and he has also repeatedly praised the Free Software philosophy > and DOES support efforts regarding the same. But when it comes to developing launchpad, he has chosen not to be with the Free Software community, even though he had the power to decide that. > Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu > GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux It is by Ubuntu users and not the official stand of the project. > - It does not give importance to Freedom. > > what exactly are you referring to here? Yes their primary goal is > giving GNU/Linux to the masses > and yes they do make freedom secondary. Only making freedom secondary > does NOT imply that they ignore it all together. You cannot compare > them to a M$. So, I support those who do give Freedom primary importance. "We can lose our freedom again just as we lost it the first time, if we don't care enough to protect it." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html Surely they are better than M$ (or so i believed before reading the blogs linked below, now I have serious doubts of their intentions), but for me those who value Freedom more than merits is important and Ubuntu isn't one of them yet (they have promised to have a completely Free distribution and I will support that wholeheartedly). > > > - "Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge." there is no guarantee > that it will remain Free Software > > After the M$ Novell deal and a not fully ready GPL v3 yet, how many > projects can guarantee that they will remain Free Software? > "Debian will remain 100% free" from Debian social contract with the Free Software Community http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract "gNewSense is Free Software, its mission is to deliver these freedoms to you:" http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Mission and others http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions > > - On the contrary, they have clearly stated their willingness to > include non-free softwares in their distribution. > > They do include proprietary drivers so new users can use the system, > but other than that what other non free software are they packaging > into Ubuntu? There are Free drivers which work for most of the cases. "There are people like Torvalds that will pressure our community into use of a non-free program, and challenge anyone who complains to provide a (technically) better program immediately or shut up." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html > > > - They don't believe in Free Software. > Is this your opinion or did a Canonical/Ubuntu representative say > this? If yes please do give that link as well. It is my opinion (after all it is in my talk page, and other claims not mine are given proper references). Some more about launchpad and the dangers of a proprietary format: "What Canonical is trying to achieve here is to collect all the work that the free software have made and will made, and put them under their control. ............ , we all depend on Canonical to continue providing the service." http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/60-Launchpad,-Google-and-why-M… he continues: "................By good marketing, clever programming and commercial pressure, they locked in a lot of people to use Microsoft products and formats. This is evil, but we have found a solution to that: reverse engineering and Free Software. Microsoft can be coped with. But Google and Launchpad were even cleverer. Instead of locking something in, they open everything: It is free, it has nice usable APIs to integrate in applications, and they suck all that opened data in and keep ahold of it. And while Microsoft has a record of doing a bad job when it comes to technical quality, thus helps the alternative, non-evil, Free Software, Google, and probably Launchpad, excels in what they doing, thus reducing the immediate need for alternatives altogether." > > Again, do you have a web > link that states this? There much more in this study http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and… > Nor do i > want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this > hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the > impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-) Except for th 3D stuff the Free drivers work for ATI and NVIDIA. Now if everyone start shipping the non-free drivers what is the incentive for those who provide Free drivers or the developer who reverse engineer it. I guess I will need to split the reply as it might not go through the size limit. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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