Linuxers June 2007

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confusing results with off line package installation in ubuntu.
by krishnakant Mane 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

hello every one. I according to some suggestions on this list, tried apt on cd and was very much happy with its results. I even wrote a testifying email a few days back. but now I got a strange result which has confused me. I did try my new "ubuntu extra softwares " as I call it cd on another newly installed machine. I had created this cd using apton cd from my computer. configurations of both the machines are same. now when I added the cd into the apt list with sudo apt-cdrom add, it took it happily. but when I said sudo apt-get update the updates did not happen. the error was "some index files failed to download, ignoring or using the older ones". and then I tried sudo apt-get upgrade which some how went fine. some packages were replaced for sure. I then again did sudo apt-get upgrade just to make sure that all is fine. this time I got a list of few packages which were held back. in the list there was the generic kernel headers and modules. this is very surprising for me as it should have taken these packages for the update/ upgrade as well. I just created the cd yesterday and tried it on a very newly installed machine which did not take any updates from internet. the first update ever on that newly installed machine was from my cd. this further surprised me as there should be no clashing packages. the next stunning hitback I got on my face was when I said sudo apt-get install inkscape. here the message was a streight "borken package ". now I know that it is the same inkscape that runs on my machine and I had tried an older apt on cd made disk on another machine where inkscape was happily installed through the cd. but this new cd gives errors of borken package for all the packages. how can this happen. any idea what must be going wrong? one pointer is that when I create the disk using apt on cd, it excludes some packages may be because they are older updates? not sure though. kindly explain. regards, Krishnakant.

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Hi, > There was....but I a newbie thought it was for checkin my HDD which I was > > sure was in perfect condition. > DVD Media should be all right as you were able to install. Right.... > 1.Your home directory is listed as /home/easwarh but it doesn't seem to > > exist.Do you want to login with the root directory as your home > > directory?It's unlikely anything will work unless you do so. > > Options:Yes No.....I selected Yes and proceeded..... > This means for some reason mandrake is failing to mount /home partition > during > boot process. Main reasons could be > 1. May be some bug in distro. > 2. Just guess: Your SELINUX is enabled. Some policy failure during boot > process is causing disabled access to /home partition. Let us know if you > use > home partition from outside of mandrake, eg. from windows OR other linux > install. > Also you can switch of SELINUX if not needed. Nope...I am not accessing Linux partitions from Windows and there's no other Linux on my system.How do I switch off SELinux and what's the criteria for judging whether I need it or not? > 2.$HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored.Your home directory /home/easwarh > > either doesn't exist or you are not the owner.Home directory should have > > 644 permissions and not be writable by other users. > If home is not mounted nothing on home will be visible. > Try googling .dmrc selinux. Will do that..... If same problem occurs in future please do following. > 1. Go to command line login as root. > Check log file /var/log/dmsg, /var/log/messages OR /var/log/syslog for any > failure during boot. > 2. Don't panic use following commands > sh# mount #you should see all mounted partitions, see if /home is > mounted, > if not give next command > sh#mount -a #it should mount your home partition, verify using mount > 3. If everything goes fine goto gui login prompt and try login. > 4. Let us know if it worked. > 5. You can bzip and mail me offlist your log > files /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog. > System logs might be having useful info about previous incidents. Search > logs > by date and time when last incident occurred. Ok......but last time,ie third time I deleted Mandriva partitions and reinstalled,so system logs not available.......the system log might be available for this time ie the time for which I have posted these messages where the reboot did the job..... Regards, Easwar

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POSIX
by Rony 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Hello All, This link is informative about about POSIX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] POSIX
by Kartik Mistry 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

On 6/5/07 Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 20:01 +0530, Rony wrote: > > If I surf and find useful pages, I post them. Members have a choice to > > delete my mails. > > Yes Rony bhai, they have the choice to delete your mails and they > equally have a choice ( and a right which they wish to exercise ) to > complain :/ Yes. I am putting filters now for my IceDove for you both. But, I am wondering why do you think that what you are reading is in benefit of All LUG members? Please grow up. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Multimedia Packages CD
by Roshan 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

All, Most of us install software on our distro (specifically *buntu) using the internet There are odd times, when the hard disk may crash (physical). (or the hdd may blow up due to power surges etc.) For a typical Microsoft Windows user, for freewares, one can ask for setup files from friends and install them back again, after buying a new hard disk ` For *buntu, one would have to download it again from the internet consuming data bytes, for something that was previously downloaded. Therefore, there are several options to it, with one of them suggested by one of my friend. The .deb files of those packages (specifically multimedia ones) could be downloaded for once (from where?) and copied onto a CD. This CD could be used again and again at different places. However, there are few more questions related to this. 1. Apt will and does resolve dependency while downloading / installing packages from the internet. Would there be dependency issues while installing it from CD. If yes, how could this be solved (by copying the required files / libs on to the CD) 2. Does the DVD of *buntu distros have enough multimedia packages which can be installed without the dependency problem? Please note, the reason this initiative has come into picture is that the usage of the Internet is critically limited, in terms of downloads. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them at in.groups.yahoo.com

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Request to all listers, please encourage people don't bash!!!
by krishnakant Mane 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

hello all, off late I am finding that good listers who keep on posting interesting material including links are being constantly bashed and discouraged. I am refering particularly to the latest email sent by roni and the subsiquent bashing and flaiming by other lister. look, keep your personal "dis interests " to your self. I remember including myself, many have problems with broadcom devices. recently I had raised an issue about the latest kernel updates that pleasingly surprised me. after this roni sent a link or 2 about the same information so that people on this list facing similar problems could benifit. I think this list is very much for sharing knowledge about gnu/linux and roni did not send any non-interesting stuff just because the flaimer feels so. I believe such kind of responses sends a bad signal to those who like to help others. I found the links very useful and may be others facing similar problems will find them useful too. roni, keep up the good work of sharing knowledge. regards, Krishnakant.

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mail server restrictions
by Kamal Paryani 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

can we have a restriction on any linux based mta namely a particular user is allowed to send email to only list of authorized mail address - say a list of 20 people , he should not be allowed to send mail to anybody besides the people on this list thanks and best regards kamal

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Re: A meet next week
by Easwar Hariharan 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

> > > >> Can't we make it to the 10th,a weekend?Even 9th would do......And > > >> please no > > >> location confusion this time around....... > > > > > > I second that. Please make it after the 9th. > > > > i third that as i well also be there on 9th and 10th > > > > well our guest is not around till 9th/10th unless you want to go to > Kolkata or Kerala. > the meet must happen before 7th. > Well,then count atleast me out.....my engg exams are on and they extend upto the 8th..... Regards, Easwar

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Re: Request to all listers, please encourage people don't bash!!!
by Kartik Mistry 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

On 6/5/07, "krishnakant Mane" <researchbase(a)gmail.com> wrote: > and roni did not send any non-interesting stuff just because the > flaimer feels so. Go Rony Go!! ;) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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pleasingly surprised with vifi on compaq nx7300
by krishnakant Mane 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

hello all and roni in particular. roni, if you remember we tried hard to get the vifi working on my compaq laptop at your house. today after I updated ubuntu feisty I find it perfectly working out of the box! now my only question is that if I happen to format the laptop any time, wil just the updates help me or will I also need to install that broad com driver the way we both did? I want to know from any one who has tried broadcom if linux comes with free modules in the latest kernel? what I am really confused is the fact that just an update fixt my vifi problem. so is this a pure linux driver that has done the trick or is it a combination of the firmware and the kernel? can some one answer this? by the way in the updates list I found that the kernel modules were included and this time around the system demanded a reboot after the updates were applied. this implies that it was not a software update but a serious change to the kernel. regards, Krishnakant.

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