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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linus on Linux and the GPLv3
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

> If they want free as in beer - tell them its free as in beer > if they want cheap - tell them its cheap > <snip> > and, if they want freedom - give them that too. > So far, i have yet to meet anyone asking for freedom. Give me freedom. What is software freedom? Can you tell me more and more about software freedom? I do not want to know about cheap prices. Maybe you have now know one person who asked for freedom. Regards, Debarshi -- Microsoft does have a Y2K problem... it's called GNU/Linux!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linus on Linux and the GPLv3
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

> Linux said, "Authors matter." By using the term GNU/Linux, it seems as > though Linux is just a part of the GNU project. It is not. Just because > someone uses your tools to build their own software does not mean that > you own that software. If you have such issues, don't let people use > the tools. Please show me one GNU hacker who has said Linux belongs to GNU, or GNU owns Linux. If you can not, then tender an apology. > What I hate about you FSF people is that you try and steal credit. You > just said the same thing again... Use GNU in the name? WHY? Make up a > name that highlights freedom, _very very clearly_. What about this? "One CD-ROM vendor found that in their ``Linux distribution'', GNU software was the largest single contingent, around 28% of the total source code, and this included some of the essential major components without which there could be no system. Linux itself was about 3%. So if you were going to pick a name for the system based on who wrote the programs in the system, the most appropriate single choice would be ``GNU''." Read http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html for more. Does Apache and Mozilla come any way near to the contribution of the GNU Project towards Linux? Regards, Debarshi -- Microsoft does have a Y2K problem... it's called GNU/Linux!

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Linux home server
by Dinesh Joshi 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Hi list :) As many of you may be aware, I run my own home server. It does everything from backing up, firewalling, filesharing (intranet), print support, ICS, web development ( PHP, MySQL, Apache etc... nothing major ) and the list goes on... The problem was and is that I am using antiquated hardware ( P1 and the likes ) and its giving me a hard time now. The hardware is about 10 years old and its time that it rests peacefully. So, now I want to replace it with a nice power efficient, low to about average processing power machine. The major constraints being that it should run cool and must be cost effective. I know that VIA processors are some of the best when it comes to power efficiency. They also make small boards ( ITX? ) which have smaller formfactor than the regular uATX boards. So can someone suggest me a config which will cost about Rs.5000 for CPU / Motherboard / RAM ( 256MB ) and may be a harddisk to go with it? I know its difficult but is anything possible which comes close to my requirements? Atleast point me in the right direction, I'll search out my goal ;) One last thing, it should be available in India, specifically on Lamington road :P TIA :) -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Report of BoF on wiki
by Roshan 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Hello All, I have posted a report on the BoF held on 5th October 2006, on the wiki. It is available on the following URL. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Report051006 Mr. Rony and Mr. Krishnakant, please go through it and suggest if any changes have to be made. I had a great pleasure meeting Mr. Krishnakant again, and Mr. Rony for the first time. Birds of the same feather flock together! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Vista's bad, GNU/Linux's good?
by Roshan 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Hello all, http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/10/here-is-why-anti-piracy-technology.ht… After reading this article, one would probably, see the future desktops with a cool background, and Mozilla Firefox dominating the browsing etiquettes. Really? Yesterday's BoF had a converstation about this. When Mr. Krishnakant suggested that this (Vista's anti-piracy policy would be good for Linux distros) would happen, but wouldn't Crackers break those policies? (as also stated by Mr. Rony) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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using already blocked device
by Harshal 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

hi, is there a way i can use a device blocked by one program, if required by another prog.? the situation is like this, i am running skype on linux and at the same time i want to play xmms for some songs, (i can do it in windows, skype and winamp together so i hear the person as well as some music in backgrond.) to my knowledge i dont think its possible in linux, but just wanting to wish the i am wrong ;-)

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Opterom mobo {ot]
by jtd 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Any recomendations on opteron mobos and cpu -- Rgds JTD

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using USB to IDE converters with gnu/linux
by krishnakant Mane 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

hello, this might be slightly off topic I am marking the off topic part of this email with <ot> and ending with <noot> because the OT part will be most interesting to people like JTD in particular. <ot> I have a 40 g ide hard disk and I am aware that there are USB to IDE converters available. my idea was to convert this IDE hard disk to an external USB hard disk. how viable is this? I know that the power would be a problem, correct me if I am wrong jtd. but USB pen drives and external hard disks are all powered from the USB port itself. please suggest me if this is possible. <noot> now on to the gnu/linux specifrics. if my above idea is viable, will my hard disk be sda or hda? how will it be mounted? and if I want to load a complete operating system like debian, will it be possible? regards. Krishnakant.

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DSL on old computer configurations
by Roshan 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

A few days back, I gave DSL on a RW to my cousin. He has an old machine whose specs are: Intel Celeron Processor 466 MHz Creative 52X CD-ROM 128 MB RAM Micro ATX External Sound Card. I asked him to boot DSL and the computer was successfully able to boot DSL. However, his desktop was not enhanced with regular Icons, leaving him a bit clueless. I explained him how to start applications and minor details. However, when he mounted his drive, and started playing songs, a few minutes later, his computer started to restart on its own. Is even DSL too hungry on resources? or is it because of the old computer? (Its almost 7 years old). I have not been able to boot Knoppix on his computer. -- http://360.yahoo.com/sriram4420 __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: Linus on Linux and the GPLv3 (Mrugesh Karnik)
by Vihan Pandey 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

> From: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:45:43 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linus on Linux and the GPLv3 > On Tuesday 10 October 2006 21:02, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > 2006/10/10, Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:19, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > GNU doesn't own any software, GNU is software. GNU is not a person, > > not a company, so the ownership issue doesn't arise. > > There goes Vihan's argument from the Andheri BoF. Granted that he did > not mean that GNU owned the kernel, but I suppose he has no right to > say this: > > "But Linus himself uses GCC to build the kernel.." Mrugesh, the context was in terms of ``credit is given where credit is due and reciprocating". If you are quoting anyone, please mention the`complete' context in which the statement was made. Regards, - vihan

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