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install ubuntu without cdrom
by Kamal Paryani 31 May '07

31 May '07

hi i need to install ubuntu on a PIII laptop of which the cdrom drive is bad the laptop does not support booting from external usb cdroms in windows world i would have removed the laptop hard disk and connected it to other pc make it bootable and transfer the setup cab files on to it , put it back on the laptop and run setup but i a dont know how it can be done in linux can i connect this hard disk to some other machine install ubuntu and then put it back in the laptop and then would ubuntu re-detect all the hardware or any other idea help ?? thanks regards

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A Full Aubuntu.
by Praveen A 31 May '07

31 May '07

continuing with my earlier reply 2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com>: > - Ubuntu translations does not respect upstream, they are forks. The > Rosetta translations don't go upstream (It is good in one way since > the quality of the translations are very poor)Again, do you have a web > link that states this? "However, by studying and taking part in the translation of KDE to Norwegian I have reached something like a tentative, partial and temporary "conclusion". That conclusion, to put it very briefly, is that there is something ... (fishy?) about Launchpad. Now, here is the story that has led me to this ad hoc and provisional conclusion." http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and… It has the details of the experiment he did. "Rosetta acts and exists as if it is independent of upstream." - again the same study. > > > So for me gNewSense, Debian, Fedora ... are much more important than > > Ubuntu (but again it is better than Windows, Suse ...). > > As a Debian user myself, i would rather give Debian to someone wanting > to to startup with GNU/Linux, however i don't want them to break their > heads on building drivers in their 1st attempt at install. Nor do i > want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this > hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the > impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-) We are almost there to have complete Free Softwares and if we lose now, why did we do it all along? we could all have sit content with proprietary software. > > > Freedom aspect > > is not the top priority for Ubuntu (Ubuntu website highlights Free of > > Cost availability). > > agreed. That is why I said I cannot recommend ubuntu to anyone. > > no, i meant - has anyone asked Canonical why is Launchpad not Free Software ? There has been discussions on this. Again from the study: "Over time, it will be open sourced. Right now we compete with Progeny and Red Hat and other companies, so we need to have a unique offering to do so effectively, and that's Launchpad. There are already libraries and tools in LP that we have open sourced on request, especially in Rosetta, the translation infrastructure. ..." Mark Shuttleworth "... to me, the only logical conclusion to that is that LaunchPad will be free when Canonical/Ubuntu are the only players in the market, or when Canonical's current business model fails and they switch to a different one. Which is fine: if you write some software from scratch, it's your choice what you do with it; but unless you're an underpants gnome or a slashdot commenter, the above doesn't qualify as a "plan" to free LaunchPad." - Anthony Towns, previous debian project leader. > > > Debian uses only Free Software for its infrastructure and it promises > > to give back to the community any new tools created. > > agreed. I believe that is a very important quality for a member in the Free Software community. If all they do is take everything in and not give anything back then that is not good for the community. > > > see the wiki link. It is not just launchpad, the entire data stored in > > the infrastructure is in proprietary format (Remember the case of > > bitkeeper). > > Well, at the end of the day it got dumped for git and if all you say > is true for launchpad it won't last very long either. is it a prediction? > i would rather give Debian to someone over any other distro ANY day, > only one can't do that all the time. If everyone i met was a techie > and willing to > go the extra mile - yes it works, only life isn't always like that. > The normal non > techie user DOES count. I'm working on debian to make it easier for new users, so are many. > > Sometimes it not so bad if you hold a child's hand while it is > learning to walk :-) I would love to do it myself rather than depending on someone else. > > > You will have to use a non-free program to participate in ubuntu > > development and your contributions will be stored in a proprietary > > format, you could retrieve it only through that program (remember > > bitkeeper). > > i do and i also remember how it was chucked out and replaced by git. Do you know why it was chucked out? the bitkeeper guys said, enough you can't use it any more. Here the case is different. Both guys are the same. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Apple agrees to DRM free music on the iTunes store
by Vihan Pandey 31 May '07

31 May '07

Hello everyone, Apple has finally succeeded in convincing EMI(a major record label :-) to keep its music DRM free and available on the iTunes store. It's good to see that Steve Jobs managed to convince them to do it :-) http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/02itunes.html Its a step in the right direction, i hope more will follow :-) i really wish they would take out a Free Software version of iTunes now :-) /me hopes... Regard, - vihan

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Fwd: [ilugd] [Commercial] TYPO3/PHP Developer]
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 31 May '07

31 May '07

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Kartik Mistry 31 May '07

31 May '07

Mrugesh Karnik wrote: > > > what about gnewsense? > > All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to > non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free > distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If > you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah > blah. Freedom comes with right to choose whatever you want. Non-Free too. Provide access and comes with default-non-free-stuffs are different things (If you can understand it). So, Speakup and don't shut up. Raise your voice, dudes. <Add some blah blah... n times here> -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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by Roshan 31 May '07

31 May '07

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Sachin Gopal 31 May '07

31 May '07

Fact is free or not Ubuntu seems to have done a lot for free software by just being insanely (hyperbole) popular. Stick to one ideology and you are doomed to be one with the dinosaurs as there is no change. hypocrisy is a boon and a curse to our society -- live with it! -- Regards, Sachin Gopal Indian Pneumatic & Hydraulic Co. Pvt Ltd.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 31 May '07

31 May '07

> "Over time, it will be open sourced. Right now we compete with Progeny > and Red Hat and other companies, so we need to have a unique offering > to do so effectively, and that's Launchpad. There are already libraries and > tools in LP that we have open sourced on request, especially in Rosetta, > the translation infrastructure. ..." MarkShuttleworth http://progeny.com/ It seems that Canonical is closer to its goal of being the 'unique' (read monopoly) company that it wants to be. No matter what the reason is for Progeny to cease operations, the end result is that there is one less competitor for Canonical. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, Dhawal wrote: pebkac: "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair", this IMO is the > reason for most lost/overwritten data.. > > Read my previous mail again.. > > An empty directory with a lost+found is generally seen for an empty > partition.. perhaps the /home that you see from mandriva and the one you > see from knoppix are different.. > > Compare the output of the "mount" and "df -h" command.. in both cases. I can't now,coz I deleted my partitions and remade them,thus destroying any possible rootkits. Rony wrote: > /home folder does not need special root privileges to read. Why did you > not see the /home files as Mandriva's root? Knoppix root can read files > of normally working distros. If you had a bad installation there is a > good possibility that your file system is corrupted. If you are using a > separate home partition, is it exclusively used for Mandriva or did you > use it for another distro too? Try doing a clean install by formating > all your partitions needed for Mandriva. As far as installation is > concerned Mandriva installs flawlessly. If your copy of media is bad, > get another one. If you can't get another one, let me know. 1st Question:I don't know.I am a newbie,remember? 2nd Q:My home partition is exclusively Mandriva's. The clean install is already done.....will try to get another media to make sure whether it's the media or something else.... Regards, Easwar

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, Kenneth wrote: > have you been rootkitted? I don't think so.I have downloaded only music and the flash-plugin for FF rpm. > BTW,Right now,it doesn't matter,since my home was on cd,i deleted my > mandriva partitions and remade them and reinstalled. > Lucky you,looks like it's my copy of the DVD that has a problem.BTW,I have never had a completely unhindered install.Always the Mandriva theme is not properly installed.Could that be a part of the reason? > Dhawal wrote: > An empty directory with a lost+found is generally seen for an empty > > > partition.. perhaps the /home that you see from mandriva and the one > > you see from knoppix are different.. > > When I see from mandriva,i click on the home icon on my desktop and when I > see from knoppix,i click on the home partition (hda6),I don't think that's > abnormal. ;) > Easwar, see my reply to your earlier mail. Data doesn't get > lost/overwritten randomly.. it is mostly pebkac. What's pebkac?It was not lost/overwritten,it was not visible within Mandriva ie it had a physical existence but was not visible within Mandriva but visible from Konsole of Knoppix live cd. > Rony wrote: > > Your hard disk could be getting baddy baddy or FS is corrupted. BTW, > > what is an luser account and how different is it from user? > > > The luser account is the same as the user account. > > > Again, corrupted files? > > > Please see the next sentence or para.I chowned my way there.It was > inaccessible because i was not the owner.(I was Knoppix root,NOT Mandriva > root) > > Regards, > Easwar >

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