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[Fsf-friends] Mozilla Localization
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

This note is from Venky Hariharan. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- One of India's most respected Internet companies is looking for programmers who will help localize Mozilla to Indian languages. Those who apply need to have at least 2-3 years experience, but above all, a passion for the Internet and for free /open source software. The objective of Indianizing Mozilla is to revolutionize computing in Indian languages, especially on the Internet. The selected individuals will be based in Mumbai. Those interested are invited to apply to venky@indlinux.org/karunakar@indlinux.org. For more details, see the attached job description. Regards, Venky ===== Mozilla Indianization ===================== 1) Goal: Enable Mozilla browser to display & handle indian languages properly, with proper font technology available. Localize Mozilla interface also to indian languages. 2) Project Requirements: All work done should be contributed back to Mozilla codebase, so that it becomes part of it. Solutions arrived at should make into main tree, rather than be done as adhoc hacks / addons / patches. i) i18n part (involving changing mozilla codebase) : a - Should be able to render Indian languages encoded in Unicode/UTF-8 b - Use a standardized font technology - eg OpenType. c - Support any encodings standardized for a language eg ISCII, TSCII, KSCLP (KGP) ii) l10n part (no code change - UI customization, translations of UI and Help text): a - Incorporate locale support (chrome level) b - Translate Mozilla UI into indian languages c - Making indianized mozilla theme - custom graphics, logos 3) Skill sets req a - Knowlegde of at least two Indian languages - reading & writing, script & language processing level 2.i & 2.ii.b b - C, C++, XML, Java for 2.i c - Graphics expertise for 2.ii.c d - For translator - good vocabulary in English & at least one Indian language, previous exp in translation also helpful. e - Proj. mgmt skills, ability to work with volunteers remotely , coordinate work through email/IM/group meetings. f - Interest in localization and passion for having indian languages on mozilla. g - Work experience of 2-3 years in the IT industry Current status: Mozilla supports Unicode, so all indian languages represented in Unicode work at unicode level - no proper rendering, if a suitable unicode font is available. ie proper vowel sign positioning, conjuncts etc are not avialable. Some work is on by Prabhat Hegde from Sun Microsystems on adding devanagari support, basically by using Pango (www.pango.org) rendering engine. He is exploring doing it using Opentype fonts. (Any one working for this should work with Prabhat for guidance & review, as he already has experience in Mozilla codebase ) Some hindi translation work has been done by a group based in Mumbai, available at http://www.bttlindia.com/mozilla/ . Some translation work for Tamil is also on. (These translations should be reused, instead of starting from scratch) Notes: 2.i has to be done in active participation with Mozilla developers & done at those forums ( mozilla-i18n , mozilla-l10n ) 2.ii.b is pure translation work, can be done in centralized or distributed fashion. 2.i.c - Since ISCII, TSCII etc are not registered character sets, it may not be possible to use them with Mozilla autodetection feature. Some workaround could be suggested. ISCII text will basically be converted to Unicode internally for display, enabled through use of \\\'iso8829-12\\\' ( reserved for Indic - ISO is waiting for us to settle to something :) . (The rationale to support ISCII is since ISCII chars will take 1byte, UTF-8 indic characters take 3bytes, or 7 bytes when used as named character references - The debate will pick up heat when indian languages are fully supported ) --------------------------- * Indian Linux project * * http://www.indlinux.org * --------------------------- _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends

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SCO suit against IBM
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Hi, Almost everyone must have read this by now. It's all over Slashdot.org and lwn.net Another threat for Open source/Free Software Good Analysis http://lwn.net/Articles/24747/ From the horse's mouth http://www.sco.com/scosource/ The full complaint http://www.sco.com/scosource/complaint3.06.03.html The Ultimate Hypocrite (www.sco.com runs on Apache/ GNU/Linux http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=www.sco.com&su bmit=Examine This story is giving both IBM and SCO free publicity. But one cannot help thinking of the possible implications to the FLOSS movement. Also SCO slurs the GNU organisation and also gives IBM undue credit for where GNU/Linux is today. Looks like the rising popularity of GNU/Linux has ruffled the feathers of quite a few heavyweights in the software industry. Sun grudingly accepted GNU/Linux and now SCO is fighting the inevitable. Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU

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Internet offline
by philip＠konark.ncst.ernet.in 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Sometime last week there was a thread on getting some websites online, and creating a kind of MSDN for Linux. 1. Check wwwoffle for slurping entire websites 2. Check LiDN for the Linux Developer's Network 3. Internet offline is a misnomer, it should be WWW offline. The Internet is just a network of networks. Offline it is nothing. Philip

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Meeting of 9th Feb
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi, ----- Original Message ----- > sorry royce this time i m also confused so i will rather wait untill the > banner changes Hey, Cool,man! --Royce.

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Re: How to Start a LUG.....
by Rajiv S Banerji 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Subject.....snip.... > 11. Info regarding setting up a Linux Usre's Group (Manoj Kumar Singh) ...... Check out this link http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/essays/newlug.html And peruse Rick's site for a while, while you're at it. Very infotaining! Brgds Rajiv

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Meeting of 9th Feb
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi, would have been great if the *date* of the next meeting was also included to avoid doubt. --royce. ----- Original Message ----- > where NEXT means something that follows current > THIS means current or present. >The next meeting is going to be held in HBCSE at 4:00pm, visit

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Meeting of 9th Feb
by Amish Munshi 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, The next meeting is going to be held in HBCSE at 4:00pm, visit http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location Agenda:- Intro on ZOPE by Dr. Nagarjuna, followed by seminar on maintaining the website http://gnowledge.org A few other topics will be covered in the meeting. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+aD9vbCDhioPGUZ4RAhJmAJ0X/gVxApvrma2JW6WQw7kYf8cy4QCgvUJc MVS217dHC6FLD8T+WSDk4GM= =b9cc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Eureka!! SM56 Internal Modem Driver Available
by Mohan Cheema 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Hi Group, Sometimes before there was discussion in the group on the that sm56 motorola internal modem doesn't work on linux machine but now it is possible to use the above modem as the driver source code is been made available but it is not done by the modem company thanks to Mr. Rajes Kizhuveetil for writting the driver all you have to do is download the driver from www.sm56.tk untar it "make" and "make install" that's it you are done and now u can use the modem but the problem is it doesn't work with wvdial (Konsole dialer) But with kpp it works fine. So fellow luggers with the above modem now enjoy the internet connection with your internal sm56 modem Regards Mohan Cheema -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste (ksh(a)cis.ufl.edu put this on Tshirts in '93)

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Fw: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting [OT]
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > which linux users group is this?? Dunno...(I'm new to the list & to Linux) saw it in one of the mails, was not sure, so cc'd them a copy. BTW, I'm now using Windows(ouch) but am keen on moving to Linux. Recently I came across Knoppix (Linux kernel 2.4.19). This is a CD you can directly boot from, with the option of installing on to HDD if you like. More at www.knoppix.de Right now I'm just playing around with it. Has anyone tried Knoppix? Like to hear your feedback! Thanks, --Royce. > rgds > jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: pvm help needed urgently
by Jojumon Kavalan 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

Use '-I' option. -I /usr/share/pvm3/include -Joju > > hi friends > need some help with pvm > > the daemon is running well, > but when i run programs with the pvm code, gcc gives an error that > it cannot find file pvm3.h > i guess i need to set some path right? > but what n how?? > > my pvm_root directory is /usr/share/pvm3 > > plz reply fast! > gurpreet >

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pvm help needed urgently
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

hi friends need some help with pvm the daemon is running well, but when i run programs with the pvm code, gcc gives an error that it cannot find file pvm3.h i guess i need to set some path right? but what n how?? my pvm_root directory is /usr/share/pvm3 plz reply fast! gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: seminar Meeting
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

On Thursday 06 March 2003 18:03, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote: > ******************************************************************* >*** * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga > (W). * > ******************************************************************* >*** > > > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 > > From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> > > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > > Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > which linux users group is this?? > > Dunno...(I'm new to the list & to Linux) saw it in one of the > mails, was not sure, so cc'd them a copy. > > BTW, I'm now using Windows(ouch) but am keen on moving to Linux. Aahh. I am the mortal combat examiner for newbies ;-). > Recently I came across Knoppix (Linux kernel 2.4.19). --chop-- > > Has anyone tried Knoppix? Like to hear your feedback! Many on the list have, me too. It's based on The Best and Greatest distro - Debian Gnu/Linux. It is excellent for those wanting to try GNU/Linux and for road warriors. Hd install is limited to a single partition. Apart from that it is very good. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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tldp on cd
by Satish Alwani 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

I dont mind creating a mirror of tldp on a cd. Just tell me the exact command to do it, i'll do it. The earlier i can get it the command, the better. Regards, Satish

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Re: Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting [OT]
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:06:00 +0530 From: "Royce & Sharal Pereira" <bethell(a)eth.net> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Cc: <LinuxUsersGroupofbombay(a)unitek.com> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ which linux users group is this?? On Thursday 06 March 2003 13:06, Royce & Sharal Pereira wrote: > ******************************************************************* >*** * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga > (W). * > ******************************************************************* >***Hi all, I'm a brand new member of this list...I "overheard" your Hearty welcome from the old, 2nd hand, and unbranded members. Actually most of us are 2nd hand, some are even 3rd or 4th handed, having migrated from several unmentionable oses. EMACS users on the other hand are 2expN handed. > discussion re. a seminar on the 9th...can I get some > details(venue/program etc) & eligibility criteria? venue and date is clearly mentioned, etc is not since it is undefined at the moment. Eligibility: Penguinistas preferred but homo sapiens, lesser mortals, brand new members, Solar worshippers etc. are also welcome. Note: Microsofties have to undergo an initiation & haedening ceremony consistitng of listening and watching RMS on video at VJTI followed by written, V V test and physical combat. Exemption from this ceremony requires you to forgo the use of the aforementioned products. Dress code was detailed in an earlier mail by Kishor Bhagwat search the list archives or request Kishor for a copy. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Kerberos-5 Installing Problem
by Srinivas 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi All Any One configured Kerberos-5 in redhat linux. I downloaded the tar file of Kerberos-5. I untared the tar file. And I compiled it. But I am not getting the configuration files for database. what will I do? Any one plz help me regarding this.... Thanx in advance. Regards vasu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

> >I guess you all have your ans....;) sorry yaar trev! dont be angry, cant help! :-(( gurpreet > >Trevor > > >On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 15:23, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : > > >gr8...;). Then i guess we should have GP + some key >volunteers > > >who are > > >spearheading the gnu movement in Interior Maharashtra down >to > > >bombay. > > oooops! > > i m sorry folks, but coming down to mumbai for me wud not be > > possible bcoz of my mid term exams and my admission procedure >for > > further study in SCIT pune. > > wud have llllllllllllllllloved to come, but cannot. > > sorry! > > > > Gurpreet > > > > > > This can be a fantastic oppurtunity for us all to share >our > > >thoughts > > >and also work on taking the movement further charting a >broad > > >outline > > >for the year ahead. > > > > > > Good idea dinesh..;) > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:54, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > > > > > Shouldn't be problem. He can come to Mumbai for his >talks. > > >:-) > > > > We would be glad to have him here. > > > > > > > > --Dinesh Shah :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Trevor Warren said: > > > > > Hello all..;) > > > > > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to have gp here for the >talk...but > > >he > > > > > resides at > > > > > kolhapur. > > > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > > >> Hi Amish, > > > > >> > > > > >> Amish > > > > > > Gurpreet Singh > > Student > > Final Yr > > Computer Sc. & Engg. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >-- > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > >-- > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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knoppix Install Script.
by Erle Pereira 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Been off the list for some time.... so i have missed quite a few mails/ threads.. so 'excuse please ' if this is a repeat of sorts Caught a bit of a thread regarding the knoppix boot cd ... I have trimmed the Knoppix Install script ( knx-hdinstall ) to allow me to install knoppix on a Harddisk with the filesystem of my choice . ( Ya I know... why do you want to install,..... well why not ? ) The existing one was in german and currently defaults to ext2. (I have used the Cd from the Linux for you issue #1 ) I have stripped the dialog boxes out, so that one can first format the partition manually with the required filesystem. then change a few variables at the start of the script, and run. Still needs a bit of work, but i have used it twice already without much issue. If anyone wants it please contact me. Its under 4kb so maybe i could mail it to the list ? ( standard disclaimers apply :-) C'ya Erle.

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Re: Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : >gr8...;). Then i guess we should have GP + some key volunteers >who are >spearheading the gnu movement in Interior Maharashtra down to >bombay. oooops! i m sorry folks, but coming down to mumbai for me wud not be possible bcoz of my mid term exams and my admission procedure for further study in SCIT pune. wud have llllllllllllllllloved to come, but cannot. sorry! Gurpreet > > This can be a fantastic oppurtunity for us all to share our >thoughts >and also work on taking the movement further charting a broad >outline >for the year ahead. > > Good idea dinesh..;) > > Trevor > > >On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:54, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > > Shouldn't be problem. He can come to Mumbai for his talks. >:-) > > We would be glad to have him here. > > > > --Dinesh Shah :-) > > > > > > Trevor Warren said: > > > Hello all..;) > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to have gp here for the talk...but >he > > > resides at > > > kolhapur. > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Dinesh Shah wrote: > > >> Hi Amish, > > >> > > >> Amish Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi all, I'm a brand new member of this list...I "overheard" your discussion re. a seminar on the 9th...can I get some details(venue/program etc) & eligibility criteria? ----- Original Message ----- >> > meeting on > > >> > the 9th of this month. > > >> >

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webcasting
by Dinesh Bareja 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Anyone can point me to any resources for Webcasting using Linux ? I need to present some options to a client, and would like to know if I can offer a solution with Linux All info will help. Best wishes - Dinesh Bareja (M) +91 98203 0159 (T) +91 22 2878 9067 |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | ======== http://www.ideagrid.com ======= | | winning strategies ! simple ideas ! | | Open Source Products, Services & Training | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|

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[COMMERCIAL] linux training
by OS Plus 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hello Folks Any members here on the list interested to train newbies and advanced users - please email me off the list. Please inform your present work and also the remuneration you would expect (per course basis or per day basis). Will you be willing to travel ? Companies or individuals which can provide the training services are welcome to respond. The requirements are from Mumbai, Ahmedabad and Delhi. This will be a part time opportunity since usually the course would be 7 to 10 days, for a couple of hours in the morning and evening. Can you let me know about Linux Training offered in Mumbai - who is offering training and what is the cost. TIA -Amit biszprite (at) rediffmail.com

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Pinnacle PCTV Plus blues
by Abhir Joshi 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

With kernel 2.4.20, I am having a strange problem with the tv tuner card. When I turn on the PC, boot into Linux, start 'xawtv', I am able to change channels but the video isn't displayed properly. There is some weak and distorted audio audible after fine tuning but still video doesn't appear. But if I boot into windows first after turning ON the PC, set the channel and then restart and boot into linux, I am unable to change the channels but the audio and video work perfectly!! So once the channel is set by the software under Windows, the Linux 'tuner' module is unable to change the channels. But if the channel is not set by the PCTV software for Windows, the tuner module is able to change the channels but bttv is unable to show the video. In the kernel messages, I can clearly see that the tuner is getting detected as 'mt2032' when I directly boot into Linux. But if I first set the channel through Windows and then try to change the channel in Linux, the tuner gets detected as '4', which, from the tuner.c in the kernel source, means 'NoTuner'. Comments, especially from Tarun and Nilesh Chaudhari who had responded previously, are required. Nilesh, what kernel version are you using, because you said that you have been successful in configuring this card. I will download that version of kernel because I really want that card totally working on Linux and not depending on Windows to change the channels. That card ABSOLUTELY sucks on Windows running on my 200 MHz processor with a SIS6215 display card; but with Linux, on the same machine, the audio and video work PERFECTLY at full screen with practically 0% CPU usage. -- Abhir Joshi http://education.vsnl.com/abhir/

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Commercial - Looking for Professionals in Linux for Bangalore openings!
by Savi 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

Hi All, We are looking for Professionals in Linux, Device Drivers, Storage, Tape Development, C++, OOD for Bangalore MNC openings, so pl. send in your resumes to savitha(a)jkconsultants.com immediately. Regards, Savitha __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Re: network problem
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

Try using net-card-conf, a utility in Knoppix. I am not sure about the command name (as in placements of hyphens), try using the tab to get the correct name. -- Goldwyn :o) A fool and his money are soon using Windows.

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Participants of IITB project
by Amish Munshi 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings,, These are the names of the people who got in touch with me for the project, let me know if I am missing anyone. I will be sending this list to Dr. D. B. Phatak in a day, so if you are interested inthe project then please send me your names (if not listed here). Gurpreet Singh <tonysingh at rediffmail.com> Manish Jethani <manish.jethani at oracle.com> Zainul M Charbiwala <zainul at ee.iitb.ac.in> liloindia <liloindia at yahoo.co.in> vinayak_hegde at softhome.net Rahul Arvind Jadhav rahul at netyantra.com Bhaskar Ghose - The GNU/Linuxer thegnuer at yahoo.de Nikhil Karkera ianmalc at rediffmail.com Tahir Hashmi code_martial at softhome.net Abhijeet D Mhatre abhijeetmhatre at gmx.net Prashant - Linux Group grouplinux at rediffmail.com Tahir Hashmi code_martial at softhome.net Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+YFeRbCDhioPGUZ4RAvzlAJoD5JAPGk50eSUHV8/7tJFpfIlj/QCgjWVj zi9LYZPkdtS58U39HUhnT3Y= =MZv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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knoppix cds reqd
by Pradnyesh Sawant 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

hello luggers, i got a knoppix cd with the 1st issue of my linux4u subscription. i liked it verrrryyyy much. i also realised that it is the perfect distro 4 the people in my class. all of them except 3 (including me) r not at all interested in linux. after hearing terror stories (of crashing hdds & losing all data) from me (my previous experiences. but these experiences only increased my determination of working on the linux box & that 2 at my place), they all just ran away frm linux. but lately, i've been getting requests frm some of them 2 install linux on their hdds so that they can learn linux. when i told abt the knoppix distro, they were very excited. i also promised them a demo in the coll lab. but having only a pIII 550MHz, with 64Mb of ram (also i forgot 2 decrease the screen res frm 1024x768 to 800x600 which further taxed the sys) the sys ran like hell. in fact it didn't run satisfactoraly at all. still some of them want 2 buy the knoppix cds. i told them that they cud get them frm me @ Rs. 50/- with the FSF or GLUG logo (or some logo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 4 that matter (they don't care)) printed. (if some cds r remaining frm the sale at vjti on the 14th of feb, the same cud b used :-))) i wud b greatful if 1 of u cud arrange 4 abt 10 cds on the next lug ^^^^^^^ meet, which i hope is on the 9th at ruparel college. (plz enlighten me if it's at some other place). if the meet is after 9th, can i get the cds on 9th frm some place (say ne1's home (i stay at nerul, navi mumbai, so some1 staying close cud do the trick)) or even IITb. ps: i wud also like 2 buy 2 cds 4 myself at Rs. 20/- each (luggers r entitled 2 a discount, i guess ;-))). that makes it 12 cds & rs. 540/-, which i'll pay when i get the cds plz let me know, as 2 when & where can i get the cds. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

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network problem
by Pradnyesh Sawant 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

i hope u all have seen my previous mail, regarding the detection of the ethernet card while installing knoppix. sorry, i cudn't include all the details at that time, was in a hurry. so here's the backgnd: i installed knoppix on my project comp in the comp lab of my college. the installation being in german, i cudn't configure the ethernet card. later, after the installation was complete, i ran "kudzu", it detected the ethernet card (the o/p of kudzu -p has been given in the previous mail) & said it has configured it. i use rhl 7.3 at my home, & have never used a debian distro. so i've got no idea as 2 what cmds r 2 b used 2 configure the static ip addrs & the gateway addrs. (in rhl, a simple "setup" cmd, ran as the root, works the magic). also plz let me know if ne other thing needs 2 b done 2 configure the ethernet card. also i don't know how 2 change the screen res frm 800x600 to 1024x768 ne help wud b greately appreciated. thanx! -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

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[OT] Webserver on a dead fly ?
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 05 Mar '03

05 Mar '03

Hi, How absurd can computing get? Webserver on a dead fly http://www.conceptlab.com/fly/index.html (courtesy slashdot.org) what next?? a potable PDA inside a dead mouse or a Mainframe inside a dead elephant. Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU

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Everyone invited for?
by Amish Munshi 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, This mail is intended for you (anyone who is reading this mail). If any of you are interested in giving a seminar in the meeting that are held on a monthly basis in Mumbai then you are invited to do so. Please feel free to give a seminar on anything that you might have learnt new or anything that most of would not know, It is not necessary that all of us know everything so there would definately be a few things you would know more than me or someone else in the meet. Send me a mail giving details about what you would be interested to learn or any topic you would be interested in giving a seminar on. I would recommend a simple topics in which anyone would be interested. Intro to LDAP, MySQL, PHP, Python, Perl, PHP-mysql integration, C-mysql integration, jakarta, Tomcat, Postgres, Oracle installation any free/OS distributions, etc. There would be something that you know from the above list, if not then please attent the meetings and get this knowledge. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ZKPHbCDhioPGUZ4RAkxFAJ92B1/gAInptT5luYUUmGY1pxStOACfcq/M jeoEYOyp1ysAlagKKbtfouE= =eIeS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] squid setup
by Amish Mehta 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

1) Setup your squid proxy with one configuration line as follows(read squid.conf for details): cache_peer ur-isp-ip parent 3128 0 no-query 2) Make ur browser use 127.0.0.1 or eth0 IP as proxy 3) TIP: Make sure that noone else in your ISP network uses YOUR squid(hint: iptables/squid acls), else he would be as happy as someone who finds a gold mine. Amish. Ninad Purohit wrote: so is there any way >my squid would receieve data from his squid >and my browser would receive data from my squid on my >static eth0 address .

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how should we configure Xconfigurator in redhat 8
by acharya＠dacafe.com 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

what's the command to setup Xconfigurator in Redhat 8 _____________________________________________________________

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Re: [ilug_sm] Re: Workshop on GNU/Linux in Kolhapur ... inviting speakers
by Trevor Warren 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hello all..;) good-day. Am indeed glad to hear that things are kicking off very well for the glug of Kolhapur. I just wanted the organisers to know that they should try to assure that all the colleges covered by the University are approached and invitations sent to. We should also get in touch with Prof. Ms Ambuja and coax her for a grand Workshop on gnu for a day held for the benefit of the whole University. As for the commercials of all you ventures....pls be inline with your estimates, keep costs low, charge students a VERY minimum ONLY intended to ensure FAITHFUL participation, have the outline of the event chalked out clearly and keep everyone in the loop, co-ordinate well among yourselves and approach the ILUG-BOM whenever necessary. Have a nice day all. Trevor On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 21:30, thegnuer wrote: > Dear Tony, > Thanx a lot for your support. We have to fix the dates now. When > would it be ideal ? Do you want it to be before or after the Belgaum > meet ? I need some tips from you regarding financial matters like the > total cost of pads & pens, refreshments, travel expenses of the > speakers, etc. I need the info to estimate the initial expenses. > Yes, I have thought about the contents & duration of the workshop & > have decided that we'll keep only an intro session this time 'cos as > you rightly pointed out, it won't help newbies in any way or rather > can confuse/frighten them. > Regards, > Bhaskar Ghose > > n.b. Reply to this mail off the list. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/LIgTpC/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/dpFolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > ilug_sm-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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could not delete directory
by Hiten Desai 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi! I am trying to delete directory with the following name --(a)app.7 (which is autogenerated by amavis) but when I am trying to delete it with rm -rf command it gives me error : rm: unrecognized option '--(a)app.7' how to delete this directory ?? Please help. Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

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[Announce] Ayttm 0.2.2 released
by Philip S Tellis 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Ayttm 0.2.2 has just been released. You can get it from http://www.nongnu.org/ayttm/files.shtml Ayttm is a fork of everybuddy. Quick changelog: * Bugfixes - Code cleanups - More Utf8 encoding issues in MSN fixed - Smileys containing > (like yahoo's devil) weren't rendered - Less dependencies to gtk/glib - Yahoo chatroom fixes - Chatroom fixes (in core) - Logwindow and conversation restoring didn't respect font prefs - Fix contact renaming - Some memleaks plugged - Fix babelfish autotrans - Menuitems sensitivity fixes * New features - Offline contact and group management cacheing - Yahoo addressbook updating - Aim-toc module: group management - Away window now allows multiline messages - Chatroom: selecting people in the list opens a chat window (or lets user add them as friends if they aren't)

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Openings in India/Abroad
by meeta ray 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

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problem with configuring network card
by Satish Alwani 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi!

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Kolhapur Meet
by jitendra 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Dear Bhaskar, I am a faculty in VJTI. You may include me too. Your Principal may send an invitation to me if there is space. In any case do arrange for distributio of CDs. * Knoppix, * GNU_WIN-II, * FRREDUC, * R.M. Stallman Video of Lecture at VJTI on Feb 14 * etc and othr distros. Trevor/Harsh Please note: Bombay group can coordinate. On language technologies: Indian language attempts on GNU/Linux can be demonstrated and a number of projects can be described so that more participation can be invited. these include: * developing editors: gtk-pango based, etc. * machine translation(marathi,other indian) : word, meaning,context etc. * system level inclusion of indian fonts: Open type, unicode fonts * translation: making available applications in Marathi/other indian languages Jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: seminar Meeting
by Gurpreet Singh 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

hi dinesh bhai what is the location of this seminar supposed to be on 9th of march. i was talking abt the belgaum meet on 30th march! gurpreet On Sun, 02 Mar 2003 Dinesh Shah wrote : >Hi Amish, > >Amish Munshi said: > > > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in >the > > meeting on > > the 9th of this month. > >Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to >be >covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have >learned. > >One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram >Bapu >college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in >day-to-day computing" ? > >Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. > > >-- >--Dinesh Shah :-) >Shah Micro System >Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com >+91-98213-11906 >+91-22-5691-9423 > > > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Older glibc
by Manish Jethani 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Hi! I'm getting a nasty jvm hang on redhat 2.1as. Just trying to figure out where the problem could be. I wanted to know what's the quick-n-dirty way to make the jvm use an older version of glibc. I have glibc-2.2.4-26 and would like to use some older version like 2.1.3 etc. Is it sufficient to just place the .so somewhere and include it in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH? -mj -- Manish Jethani (Technical Staff, Oracle Reports) +91 80 51073488, manish.jethani at oracle.com http://www.geocities.com/manish_jethani/ disclaimer: "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation."

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How to keep two version ...sorry for repetative msgs
by Gurpreet Singh 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

friends sorry for the repetative msgs, i just wanted to confirm that it get across, my browser wasnt giving a confirmation SORRY On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 Tapeshwar Nath wrote : >Hey cool it pal , don;t send same message 3 times.... >:) > >-Tapesh > >--- Gurpreet Singh <tonysingh(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > hi > > install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. > > then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate > > partition > > boot thru the 1st partittion, > > add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader > > configuration file. > > reboot > > u'l have both the options on the bootloader. > > > > if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. > > gurpreet > > > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : > > >Hi Group, > > > I am planning to use some applications which > > works only on > > >top of red hat > > >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat > > linux 8.0 and > > >6.2 on the > > >same machine? I am interested in keeping > > glibc-2.1.3 on my > > >machine which > > >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this > > implementation should > > >consider that > > >point. > > > Any help is welcome. > > > > > >Thanx and regards, > > > > > >Prashant Parab > > > > > >-- > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurpreet Singh > > Student > > Final Yr > > Computer Sc. & Engg. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Commercial] Fw: SecLore
by Zainul M Charbiwala 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

There's a requirement for software engineers at an 'Application Security' company here in the Business Incubator at IITB. Please refer to http://www.seclore.com/career.htm and the mail addy given below if you're interested. Regards, Zainul. Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:20:09 -0500 From: manav(a)seclore.com To: zainul(a)ee.iitb.ac.in Subject: SecLore Hi Zain, Thanks for offering to spread the word around as regards SecLore and the relevant employment opportunities. The website is www.seclore.com. Please refer the link to your friends and associates. Interested applicants may apply via emails to jobs(a)seclore.com Thanks once again, Best, -Manav -------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent via ExlHost We host your credibility http://www.exlhost.net --

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Re: seminar Meeting
by Dinesh Shah 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Hi Amish, Amish Munshi said: > Would any of you be interested in giving a short seminar in the > meeting on > the 9th of this month. Pls ask on the list which are the topics ppl interested in to be covered and ask ppl to come forward to share whatever they have learned. One more thing. Why not invite Gurpreet Shingh from Rajaram Bapu college to give his demo/lecture on "Howto use GNU/Linux in day-to-day computing" ? Also see if you can manage Projection systems for the meet. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com +91-98213-11906 +91-22-5691-9423

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Gurpreet Singh 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hi install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate partition boot thru the 1st partittion, add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader configuration file. reboot u'l have both the options on the bootloader. if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. gurpreet On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : >Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on >top of red hat >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and >6.2 on the >same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my >machine which >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should >consider that >point. > Any help is welcome. > >Thanx and regards, > >Prashant Parab > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Gurpreet Singh 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hi install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate partition boot thru the 1st partittion, add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader configuration file. reboot u'l have both the options on the bootloader. if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. gurpreet On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : >Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on >top of red hat >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and >6.2 on the >same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my >machine which >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should >consider that >point. > Any help is welcome. > >Thanx and regards, > >Prashant Parab > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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GNU/Linux on Desktop
by Dinesh Shah 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hi, Here is the link on GNU/Linux on Desktop. http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2322798911.html Wily Yuen has authored a great overview for getting started using Linux on your PC. Yuen, a Linux user since July, points to key applications and tools that will help you enhance your user experience. The guide that follows is a great addition to your bookmarks as a reference guide to using Desktop Linux . . . HTH With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com Mobile : (+91) 98213-11906 Res. : (+91-22) 56919423

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Gurpreet Singh 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hi install rh 6.2 first with a bootloader. then install rh 8 WITHOUT A BOOTLOADER on a seperate partition boot thru the 1st partittion, add info abt the 2nd distro in ur bootloader configuration file. reboot u'l have both the options on the bootloader. if u rnt able to get this right, get back to me. gurpreet On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 Prashant Parab wrote : >Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on >top of red hat >linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and >6.2 on the >same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my >machine which >comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should >consider that >point. > Any help is welcome. > >Thanx and regards, > >Prashant Parab > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Two versions of linux
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

On Thursday 27 February 2003 20:43, Prashant Parab wrote: > Hi Group, > I am planning to use some applications which works only on top > of red hat linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux > 8.0 and 6.2 on the same machine? I am interested in keeping > glibc-2.1.3 on my machine which comes with red hat linux 6.2. So > this implementation should consider that point. Youc can have any number of distros / os. I have debian woody 2 installations, rh6.2 (dunno why it's here). and debian sid (incomplete). Create seperate partitions and install. Use grub to boot. Install grub on the mbr with the menu.lst file in the boot partition of the first installation (/dev/hda4 - grub numbers partitions from 0. so 4 is 5 - in my case). Edit this file when you create a new installation. No need to re install grub. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: Workshop on GNU/Linux in Kolhapur ... inviting ilug-bom
by Trevor Warren 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hello Bhaskar...;) good-day. It'll be my pleasure to be present there and conduct a days workshop on FSF-OS covering carious aspects of Development / Careers / Consultancy / Economics with a fair glance at gnu-linux. I also extend this invitation to the gnu-linux users group of bombay....such that we can arrange for 1-2 day workshop covering various technical and non-technical aspects of FSF-OS and gnu-linux. I am hoping that you can extend this invitation to all the colleges Technical/Non-technical all around Kolhapur so as to increase the sharing of knowledge to benefit the community. Lemme know your ideas on the same and along with the ilug-bom we will do our best to come over there and deliver our best. Trevor Dinesh Shah Abhijit On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:16, The GNU/Linuxer wrote: > Hello Trevor, > Good afternoon. Please read the mail I posted on the list in this > regard. I'll be very glad if you come to our college. Please consider > it as my personal invitation cum request. Do gimme suggestions as to > what exactly should be done to make it effective. Please please do come > Trevor, it'd be a privilege. > Regards, > Bhaskar Ghose > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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tldp on cd
by Harsh R Busa 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hi guys there was a discussion on trying to get TLDP on a CD. it is already available. this is not a commercial but just another pointer. http://www.embeddedlogic.com/ELSweb/LDPCD_info.html does anyone have a copy of it ? regards Harsh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying http://www.netcore.co.in Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities http://www.blogstreet.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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How to keep two version of linux on one machine,
by Prashant Parab 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hi Group, I am planning to use some applications which works only on top of red hat linux 6.2. Is it possible for me to keep red hat linux 8.0 and 6.2 on the same machine? I am interested in keeping glibc-2.1.3 on my machine which comes with red hat linux 6.2. So this implementation should consider that point. Any help is welcome. Thanx and regards, Prashant Parab

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Hotmail in Linux ?
by Amar Shah 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi Guys, I would like to know if any of you are able to synchronize your hotmail account from Red Hat Linux 8.0. Which program should I use to do that ? Hotmail uses http protocol. KMail doesn't support it. I know about 'gotmail'; but I can view messages only in a plain text file. Please help !! Regards, Amar Shah.

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Internet offline
by Amish Munshi 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Greetings, Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access. The sites will be included on a CD, and can be installed on the HDD of the servers. Dr. D. B. Phatak wants many people to work on this, and we probably have the people to help for this cause. I am willing to do the co-ordination for this project, but I am not the official co-ordinator, let me know if you are interested in helping in the project. Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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Yoper !
by Amar Shah 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi guys, Does anyone have install cd's of Yoper ? available from www.yoper.com.. yoper is in beta stage now and it's the topmost rated distro for Linux. I am willing to buy it from from anyone who has the beta version.. Regards, AmaR Shah.

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gnu-linux on desktops
by Trevor Warren 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

http://www.business-standard.com/today/story.asp?Menu=2&story=8930

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[OFFTOPIC][Commercial][JOBS]
by Trevor Warren 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Ravi Namboori <rnamboori(a)melstar.com> To: Trevor Warren <trevor(a)medialabasia.mine.nu> Subject: Skills required Date: 26 Feb 2003 16:54:16 +0530 Hi Trevor I am looking out for following people 1) C, Unix, Shell Scripts - Graduate with 4 years exp 2) Oracle - Graduate with 5+ years exp. 3) Linux developers - Graduate with 3 years. Regards Ravi Namboori Manager - Resource Deployment Melstar Information Technologies Ltd. Melstar House G-4, MIDC Cross Road "A" MIDC, Andheri (E) Mumbai Tel - 28310505

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Not finding the CommandSet to work with the Modem
by Padma Sangep 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi , I have D-Link DFM-560ES Data/Fax/Voice Modem..and I'm searching the Net for the set of commands to work with the Modem as like write a command on the Modem's port so to make a Voice call to a PSTN Phone...but I have not found any result..Can anybody help in knowing the same.... Regards, Padma. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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libcms.so.1
by Amar Shah 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi, Can anyone tell me where to get an rpm or a tarball for libcms.so.1 ? It's required by k3b, the cd creator for KDE. You can find the project at sourceforge. I am using RHL 8.0 Psyche release with kernel ver. 2.4.18-14.. anyone having a link to the application providing libcms.so.1 library ?.. Regards, Amar Shah.

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libcms.so.1
by Amar Shah 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi, Can anyone tell me where to get an rpm or a tarball for libcms.so.1 ? It's required by k3b, the cd creator for KDE. You can find the project at sourceforge. I am using RHL 8.0 Psyche release with kernel ver. 2.4.18-14.. anyone having a link to the application providing libcms.so.1 library ?.. Regards, Amar Shah.

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GNULinuxInIndia o Feb 26, 2003
by FN 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

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GNUnify ALL INDIA FREE SOFTWARE FESTIVAL: The Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research(SICSR), under its annual Unify festival, organized the first ever Free Software Festival in India on Feb 15-16, 2003. For a report of the event contact Kanti Jadia (j_kanti(a)rediffmail.com) URL's for reference o http://www.gnunify.org o http://www.symbiosiscomputer.com o http://www.iitb.ac.in o http://www.vjti.ac.in o http://www.plug.org.in o http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/ o http://www.simputer.org o http://www.mit.gov.in Perhaps one could also add: gnu.org.in -- the home page of the Free Software Foundation (India) -- and http://www.linux-india.org (LinuxIndia). .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. FINALLY, SOMETHING IN INDIAN LANGUAGES: IndLinux Hindi v0.37 (milan) released: Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar(a)freedomink.org> that indefitagable campaigner for Indic solutions in GNU/Linux, came up with this announcement on Feb 20. IndLinux Hindi v0.37 (milan) is released Download it from http://www.indlinux.org/downloads/index.php or directly from http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/indlinux/IndLinux-Hindi-0.37.tar.gz?down… Read release, installation and usage notes at http://www.indlinux.org/doc/IndLinux-Hindi-0.37-README.txt More about the IndLinux team at http://www.indlinux.org .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. NEWS FROM EASTERN INDIA: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <sankarshanm(a)softhome.net> sent in some interesting udpates. o Nirmalya Lahiri and Sankarshan himself have managed to get up and running the LTSP at a local privately run college [Sarsuna College] with 50 PCs. This college for all practical administrative purposes has shifted to the OSS platform, with major IT related administrative functions being carried out with least increase in cost and major value addition. Staff orientation was also without major hitches and the system is up and running for the past 6 months. o Both have also developed and put in place a DSS/MIS for a government aided college at BudgeBudge that takes care of related executive decision making ability. o A consortium model library model capable of being scaled up to handle central libraries is in the pipeline for implementation at universities. o Rohan Sen <rohansen(a)myrealbox.com> has developed a prototype fully functional, scalable and robust payroll program that is currently smoothly running at Surendranath College, another Govt aided college at Kolkata. o Currently a self learning Knowledge Base is being developed using the latest release of Oracle and Content Management Systems. Thank you for your kind words for this modest newsletter Sankarshan! FN .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. GNU/LINUX... AND PCQ: Below is a listing of GNU/Linux software featuring in recent issues of Indian mainstream PC mag, PCQuest. (We do wish PCQuest would focus more on GNU/Linux... and stop mixing up terms like Free Software and 'freeware'). July 2001 * The latest Linux distribution from Red Hat Feb 2002 * Shusha and Shivaji fonts for Linux. March 2002 * A file-splitting utility for GNU/Linux (Indianware) May 2002 * Simple tool to split large files into smaller files. June 2002 * Sniffer and protocol analyzer... by Rohit Sharma July 2002 * GNU/Linux section of indiwiz.com in PDF format July 2002 * Bulk mailer written in Perl for GNU/Linux Aug 2002 * Cyberoam, providing Internet via cable Oct 2002 * Indix: project to develop Indian lang support for GNU/Linux. With modified X-windows, development toolkits and a terminal emulator program Nov 2002 * Indix. oprint converts Indic text to PostScript .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. LAP -- TAKING GNU/LINUX TO EDUCATION: Raju Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org> credits the "unflagging efforts" of Prateek Khanna and Dhruv Gami for helping to get up and running the Linux Access Project (LAP) home page. See http://lap.linux-delhi.org/ They are using a Wiki (TWiki) as the collaborative tool, so feel free to create an account for yourself and add content and comments. LAP, the GNU/Linux Access Project is an initiative for popularising Linux in education. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. NEWS FROM THE TAMIL FRONT: vvenkataramanan <venkat(a)tamillinux.org> informs us about having written a new font download tool (BASH shell script). This downloads all frequently used Tamil fonts (TSCII, TAB, TAM, Vikatan, Kumudam, Kalki, Murasu-Anjal compatible WebTamil fonts, etc.). With this he plans to address the following problems for Tamil linux users; o Downloading fonts to read various pages one by one. o Installing truetype fonts and making it available to X Says VV: "It uses GNU wget to ftp download all fonts at one go from my employer's ftp server (real fast), use ttmkfdir to create font scales and update fontpath with chkfontpath utility. (I have tested this in few machines running RH and Mandrake, I will be glad if someone tests it in SuSE and Debian and more). I plan to add few more ftp servers where I will maintain fontpools (any volunteers for space?)" Some more quotes: "The idea came out of Ximian Red Carpet for GNOME (http://www.ximian.com). I wanted to write some unified downloader/installer for everything tamil (fonts, keymans, akaram editor, Unicode editor, Vasee's TamilTeX package, Sivaraj's console tools, atleast one Tamil Linux Howto. This will make the life of anyone willing to migrate to tamil desktop simple. First step though is to make it work with fonts fully. It draws heavy inspiration from similar utility by Sebastino Vigna for Microsoft's free webfonts and some similar tools for Debian." It is available for download from ftp://ftp.tamillinux.org/apps/TamilFontsGet.sh and the documentation is at http://www.tamillinux.org/fonts.html .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. CHANGES AT TAMILLINUX.ORG SITE: Venkat also announces some "long pending" changes to the tamillinux.org site - listing some latest developments in Mandrake 9.0rc1, GTK2 VP modules of Dinesh, Vasee's kimaps, the Tamil Linux Howto, etc. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. MAGAZINE COMPLETELY IN FREE SOFTWARE: V. Sasi Kumar <vsasi(a)vsnl.com> shares that the Laboratory in Informatics for the Liberal Arts (LILA) of the Mahatma Gandhi Antarrashtriya Hindi Vishwavidyalaya has brought out a magazine named LILA devoted to futuristic computing. Says he: "They say that, to their knowledge, this is the first magazine in India to be manufactured completely in Free Software, and also the first to be brought out under the Free Documentation Licence. They propose to have Free Software as its major theme, with other aspects of contemporary trends in computing also included. No price is mentioned on the magazine. Hope it is 'free' as in 'free beer'! ;-)" Check out: hindivishwa.org Email: hindiuniv(a)nda.vsnl.net.in .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. USING GNU/LINUX? Let your loyalty show... register at http://counter.li.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUR INPUTS and criticism to this newsletter are welcome. Contact at fred at bytesforall dot org --COPYLEFT 2003, GPL. May be freely circulated provided entire text is retained. FN --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Micros DB access
by Amol Gokhale 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi guys, A little background first. Micros is Point of Sale application for the hotel industry. It runs on Sco Unix among other platforms. According to Micros it uses a proprietary database but we think that it uses some sort of a Unix filesystem. Our problem is getting access to this data as we want it to be available real time for a application we are developing for our client. I have two problems: 1. What are the file systems available on Sco?? [Slightly off-topic] 2. How can I make use of Linux to access this machine and data?? Bye, Amol

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RMS Video on 14th Feb 2003 available
by Rishi Gangoly 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Hi All, OK. Thanks to Nick Hill, he has made the audio and video lecture of RMS visit to VJTI available for download from the GNU Website on the internet. Audio Ogg sound track (15Mb) http://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/rms-speech-gnu-india2003.ogg Video Original Mpeg1+Layer2 VCD quality 2 disks (1Gb) http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/.originals/ Highly compressed, low bit rate version Mpeg1+Layer2 (54Mb): http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/vjti-14-feb-2003-lbr-split And a single file of the highly compressed version here: http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/vjti-14-feb-2003-lbr.mpg If you don't have the time or bandwidth to download these files, then you can send me e-mail and I'll have them delivered to you on 2 VCDs. rishi(a)theargoncompany.com Charges for 2 CDs + Courier + Content is Rs. 300 to your doorstep. Also Nagarjuna and Prof. Jitendra Shah have a copy of the CDs so if you meet them often you could get a copy made from them. Regards Rishi

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Confussion in NAS & SAN
by Srinivas 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Hi all, NAS(Network-Attached storage). SAN(Storage Area Network). I am not understanding the exact difference between the above two technologies. Both provide optimal consolidation, centralized data storage, and efficient file access.Both can provide high data availability and can ensure integrity with redundant components and redundant array of independent disks. Where exactly they will sit?. and what is the architectural design of both? What are the different types of hardwares can support individually. Can any one plz help me regarding this...... Thanx in Advance. Regards vasu

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Re: Internet offline
by Nikhil Karkera 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 vinayak_hegde(a)softhome.net wrote : >offline version of www.tldp.org. We can give away these cds >along with knoppix and FreeDuc as and when this is done. >I have spoken to a lot of newbies to GNU/Linux. They want a >good reference book. This CD might just be an answer. >Also another idea which came of of a discussion with Mr. >Nagarjuna >@GNUnify was that we could have a subscription kind of service >for >corporates and individuals. We can mail the update CDs every 3/6 >months. >I was thinking something on the lines of MSDN which we lack for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Very much in need! No doubt about it. About putting tldp.org on a CD. We could create a MSDN-like resource for this as well. HOWTOs and man pages and other help under a single searchable index, with some additional assistance pages. Content could be grouped into multiple CD's for newbies, intermediate & advanced users. Things a newbie has problems with (from my own experiences): 1. I don't know if this can be done. 2. I know it can be done, I don't know how. Don't tell me to RTFM. Tell me which FM to R. 3. I don't understand the man pages. 4. Only if there were a one stop solution where I can run a query through all the man pages and HOWTOs and other help, my work would get done a lot faster. Content within the man pages could also be grouped into sections, depending on the level of a user. A newbie probably only needs to know ls, ls -l, ls -a, and the fact that we can also write ls -al. Some people tend to develop a phobia, if bombarded with excessive content. Hope we could have something like this, or even better. Would love to help in any way I can. Warm Regards, Nikhil Karkera.

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PLAY MP3 FILES
by satyajit balkrishna saste 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

HI.. I am using RedHat8.0.I configured the sound card.But still Mp3's dont seem to work. Please let me know... -satyajit

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Internet offline
by Gurpreet Singh 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

nice cause count me in! gurpreet On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 Amish Munshi wrote : >Greetings, > > Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will >be a >collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the >schools and >colleges that do not have internet access. The sites will be >included on a >CD, and can be installed on the HDD of the servers. Dr. D. B. >Phatak wants >many people to work on this, and we probably have the people to >help for >this cause. > I am willing to do the co-ordination for this project, but I am >not >the official co-ordinator, let me know if you are interested in >helping in >the project. > >Bye. > >-- >Amish K. Munshi >In GNU we trust. Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: How to dump a VHS tape into MPEG-4.
by Rohit Ramesh 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

On Wednesday, Feb 26th, Nagarjuna G wrote : > Does anyone know how to dump a VHS tape into MPEG-4 directly? > > - Is there a hardware encoder that can be bought to get this done? > - Are there any organizations that do this at a fee? There is a device called the "IOMEGA Buz Multimedia Producer" or "Buz Box" which should do it. All you need are the relevant codecs, etc. to be installed and the device will do the encoding. Information regarding this device can be found at the Iomega website. Regards, Rohit. ___________ Rohit Ramesh VJTI, Mumbai.

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linux kernel bug database (?)
by Manish Jethani 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Is there a linux kernel bug database somewhere? This bug -- http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0009.1/0572.html -- seems to be bugging me, so I was wondering how to track the status of this bug. Any suggestions? -mj -- Manish Jethani (Technical Staff, Oracle Reports) +91 80 51073488, manish.jethani at oracle.com http://www.geocities.com/manish_jethani/ disclaimer: "The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation."

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Seminars for Meetings
by Amish Munshi 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, If any of you are interested in giving seminar in the meetings, please get in touch with me via the list, I am searching for individuals who are wanting to share some knowledge with the rest of us. Thanks. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+WYXZbCDhioPGUZ4RAm6eAKCD8UWQOH3Z1qbgm/ninapqFASMuACeLKO5 0odW62sdyRiY7ly+bQ1tM4A= =5dpc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Linux/Unix opening at India/ Abroad
by meeta ray 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

Hi , I am searching on behalf of my client the following profiles 1. Sr Project manager having experience of atleast 8yrs+ having knowledge of Linux device driver to Network programming Location : chennai No of Position : 1 2. Sr Engg - having knowledge in Linux embedded technology and significant contribution in open source development Location : Manchester UK No of Position : 4 3 . Linux/ Unix developers having experience of 4-6 yrs Location : chennai no of Position : 23 Please pass my email id to your friends whom you think might be interested . These requirements are very urgent . Regards Meeta Ray Chatterjee Integrated Consultants P-33 , CIT Road , Scheme 4 M CAlcutta email : move4(a)rediffmail.com

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changing the identity of mozilla
by Rahul Saxena 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

hello there, is it possible to change the identiy of mozilla so that appears like IE5.5 or whatever to the webserver. regards rahul -- "...a most excellent barbarian ... Genghis Kahn!" -- _Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure_

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How to dump a VHS tape into MPEG-4
by Rishi Gangoly 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

Hi Does anyone know how to dump a VHS tape into MPEG-4 directly? - Is there a hardware encoder that can be bought to get this done? - Are there any organizations that do this at a fee? Any information on this would be great. I would like the RMS lecuture that was conducted on the 14th Feb 2003 at VJTI reach as many users as possible and thus to be able to download it from the internet I'm trying to get the size of the file to be fairly tiny at the same time not loose out too much on the quality. Regards -- Rishi Gangoly Manager - Technical Operations The Argon Company Phone: +91-22-56361313 To subscribe to our Monthly Newsletter send email to majordomo(a)list.theargoncompany.com with "subscribe newsletter" in the body of the message.

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RMS Video on 14th Feb 2003 available
by Rishi Gangoly 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

Hi I got the Video that was taken on 14th Feb 2003 at VJTI. Where should I upload this to? Currently it is on MPEG-2 I think (VCD) It's not as bad as I expected it to be. ;-) Can anyone tell me how to convert this from MPEG-2 to DivX format? Regards Rishi

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Linux For You
by Raju Bathija 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

Hi, `Linux For You' is the India's first Linux Magazine. It is priced at Rs. 50/- per issue and is a monthly magazine. Check out its web page at: http://www.linuxforu.com/ Bye. -- R A J U B A T H I J A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Theo. Physics, TIFR, Homi Bhabha Road, Mumbai 400005, India email: bathija(a)tifr.res.in www : http://theory.tifr.res.in/~bathija Tel. [Office]: 2215 2971 (Ext. 2244) Tel. [Home] : 95-251-254 2424 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage is the alliance of two people, one of whom never remembers birthdays and the other who never forgets. --- Ogden Nash

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] VJTI photographs
by sameer shinde 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] IT show by bombay univ
by Shiva Nadkarni 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

the show is at the university campus, Kalina.... i don't know the timings though :( - Shiva --- Harsh R Busa <harsh(a)netcore.co.in> wrote: >please contact Dr Nagarjun(HBSCSE) or Prof Jitendra from VJTI >sorry i dont have thier contact nos at hand but please see >www.vjti.ac.in there maybe an RMS lect link ... his contact nos were >posted there > >harsh > >On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 11:56, Ashwin Khandare wrote: >> hi harsh, >> >> Can u pls give the proper address as to where this IT show is held ? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harsh R Busa" <harsh(a)netcore.co.in> >> To: <linuxers(a)ilug-bom.org.in> >> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:48 AM >> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] IT show by bombay univ >> >> >> > hi all >> > >> > univ of bbay is organizing an IT show, the story has been covered in >> > bbay times. i guess dr Nagarjun is also going to speak there. >> > >> > can we sell Knopix / GNU Win / FreeDuc cds there on behalf of >> > FSF(India)? its on 24/25/26 of feb. if some one can volunteer to spare 1 >> > day each it will be real help. personally i wud have loved to but have >> > to some work. i can provide any backend help if needed. >> > >> > regards >> > Harsh >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> > NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 >> > >> > MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP >> > Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying >> > http://www.netcore.co.in >> > >> > Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing >> > http://www.emergic.com >> > >> > BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities >> > http://www.blogstreet.com >> > >> > Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >> > >> > >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> >> http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >> >> >> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 > >MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP >Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying >http://www.netcore.co.in > >Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing >http://www.emergic.com > >BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities >http://www.blogstreet.com > >Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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tape drive problem
by Sandeep Nadkarni 25 Feb '03

25 Feb '03

hi all, I have HP 88780 reel-to-reel tape drive. I am not able to backup my data to it. give error. /dev/st0 : unable open : read only file system permissions for /dev/st0 crw-rw-rw help me please. Sandeep

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24 Feb '03

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Re: [ilug-goa] SOUTH INDIA: GNU/Linux in Schools
by Trevor Warren 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

Hello all, congratulations on having successfully migrated all these shools to LTSP. This indeed calls for a pat on the back for all who have toiled night and day to achieve the end objective. We certainly should collaborate and strengthen these initiatives all around the country in an effort to take LTSP to schools accross the country. These noble initiatives will in the long run help our schools/colleges may they be rich/poor by reducing huge overheads otherwise incurred by marrying other Closed Source vendors giving abysmally low ROI. Have a nice day all. Trevor On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 12:56, Daryl Martyris wrote: > Dear Sujeevan, > > Congratulations from the Goa Schools Computers Project (GSCP). With the 20 LTSP schools we have operational in Goa for the last 6 months, we now have 35 LTSP schools in India at least. May that number grow! > > Can you hare details of the project with us? What distribution are you using? Maybe we can share common Linux compatible educational applications. > > sincerely, > > Daryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: FN > To: Sujeevan Pullanhiotan > Cc: Arun M ; ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:10 AM > Subject: [ilug-goa] SOUTH INDIA: GNU/Linux in Schools > > > On 17 Feb 2003, Sujeevan Pullanhiotan wrote: > > > > > > Hi to All, > > > > We are happy to announce that, LTSP based GNU/Linux system > > have been successfully implemented in following Govt. High Schools > > in Kanuur. This is the first successful attempt in bringing > > GNU/Linux to schools in Kerala. We are providing basic GNU/Linux > > plus OpenOffice training to groups of teachers and the initial > > response of the school teachers found to be very encouraging for > > free software. > > > > List of Govt. Schools where LTSP is Implemented > > > > > > * Govt. High School, Chelora, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Munderi, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Valapatnam, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Chala, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Thottada, Kanuur > > * Technical Higher Secondary School, Thottada > > * Govt. High School, Chittariparamba > > * Govt. High School, Kuthuparamba > > * Govt. High School, Vengad > > * Govt. High School, Chavasseri > > * Govt. High School, Pinarayi > > * Govt. High School, Kottayam > > * Govt. High School, Manathana( in progress) > > * Govt. High School, Maaloor( in progress) > > * Govt. High School, Edakkad ( In progress) > > > > > > With Regards > > > > Sujeevan.P > > S2S2, Munderi, Kannur > > http://s2s2net.netfirms.com > > > > -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/

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IT show by bombay univ
by Harsh R Busa 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

hi all univ of bbay is organizing an IT show, the story has been covered in bbay times. i guess dr Nagarjun is also going to speak there. can we sell Knopix / GNU Win / FreeDuc cds there on behalf of FSF(India)? its on 24/25/26 of feb. if some one can volunteer to spare 1 day each it will be real help. personally i wud have loved to but have to some work. i can provide any backend help if needed. regards Harsh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying http://www.netcore.co.in Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities http://www.blogstreet.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] IT show by bombay univ
by Optimal Solutions 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

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Re: [ilug-goa] SOUTH INDIA: GNU/Linux in Schools
by Trevor Warren 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

Hello all, congratulations on having successfully migrated all these shools to LTSP. This indeed calls for a pat on the back for all who have toiled night and day to achieve the end objective. We certainly should collaborate and strengthen these initiatives all around the country in an effort to take LTSP to schools accross the country. These noble initiatives will in the long run help our schools/colleges may they be rich/poor by reducing huge overheads otherwise incurred by marrying other Closed Source vendors giving abysmally low ROI. Have a nice day all. Trevor On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 12:56, Daryl Martyris wrote: > Dear Sujeevan, > > Congratulations from the Goa Schools Computers Project (GSCP). With the 20 LTSP schools we have operational in Goa for the last 6 months, we now have 35 LTSP schools in India at least. May that number grow! > > Can you hare details of the project with us? What distribution are you using? Maybe we can share common Linux compatible educational applications. > > sincerely, > > Daryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: FN > To: Sujeevan Pullanhiotan > Cc: Arun M ; ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:10 AM > Subject: [ilug-goa] SOUTH INDIA: GNU/Linux in Schools > > > On 17 Feb 2003, Sujeevan Pullanhiotan wrote: > > > > > > Hi to All, > > > > We are happy to announce that, LTSP based GNU/Linux system > > have been successfully implemented in following Govt. High Schools > > in Kanuur. This is the first successful attempt in bringing > > GNU/Linux to schools in Kerala. We are providing basic GNU/Linux > > plus OpenOffice training to groups of teachers and the initial > > response of the school teachers found to be very encouraging for > > free software. > > > > List of Govt. Schools where LTSP is Implemented > > > > > > * Govt. High School, Chelora, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Munderi, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Valapatnam, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Chala, Kanuur > > * Govt. High School, Thottada, Kanuur > > * Technical Higher Secondary School, Thottada > > * Govt. High School, Chittariparamba > > * Govt. High School, Kuthuparamba > > * Govt. High School, Vengad > > * Govt. High School, Chavasseri > > * Govt. High School, Pinarayi > > * Govt. High School, Kottayam > > * Govt. High School, Manathana( in progress) > > * Govt. High School, Maaloor( in progress) > > * Govt. High School, Edakkad ( In progress) > > > > > > With Regards > > > > Sujeevan.P > > S2S2, Munderi, Kannur > > http://s2s2net.netfirms.com > > > > -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/

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building a list of applications
by Dinesh Bareja 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

Hi I would like to build a list of Open Source apps which can be used instead of commonly used applications under the Win. The idea is to invite all you folks to contribute to the listing and I shall compile all the contributions and make it available as a PDF or HTML document which can be posted on the LUG website. The reason for building this list is obvious, to showcase the list of 'alternative' available software which will enable small and large scale users to migrate to from 'grey market' stuff etc to Open Source. It will serve as a reference document which can be used by all to provide information about the availability of tons of productivity software in the Open Source arena, and to dispel the fears of open hearted acceptance. This is an introductory email where my objective is to get feedback from you folks about the information being solicited. Do you think this is good or should there be any more information relating to the entry ? I am also including an entry as an example. The feedback is called for in the following format (one should cut and paste the fields and include the data in the same. Title: Open Source Software Product Listing [Date Stamp DD-MM-YY] - 01. [Application Type - Graphics, Word Processing etc] - 02. [Name of Commonly Used Application] - 03. [Bundles with] - 04. [Name of Open Source App] - 04.1. [Current Version] - 05. [Bundled with] - 06. [Price Indication] - 06.1. [Pricing comments] - 07. [Platforms Available] - 08. [Owner Website URL] - 09. [A brief note on features, comparison of the two apps] - 10. [Any known users] - 11. [Contributor Name] - 12. [Contriburot Email Address] - 13. [Personal Comments] - 14. [Any Snapshots of the application] - 15. [Interesting or Related Links with Description] - <note> please provide hyperlinks for the present and do not send any attached images which can be called for later or picked up from the URL being provided. </note> MY EXAMPLE [Date Stamp DD-MM-YY] - 22-02-03 01. [Application Type - Graphics, Word Processing etc] - Word Processing 02. [Name of Commonly Used Application] - Microsoft Word 03. [Bundles with] - MS Office 04. [Name of Open Source App] - Star Writer 04.1 [Current Version] - Ver 6.0 05. [Bundled with] - Star Office (includes Spreadsheet, Presentation, Graphics and Database) 06. [Price Indication] - Rs. 5,200 06.1. [Pricing comments] - Price for SarOffice Suite is 5K (single user) but for bulk licensing the price can drop by 1K or more. 07. [Platforms Available] - Windows, Linux, Solaris 08. [Owner Website URL] - http://www.sun.com 09. [A brief note on features and comparison of the two apps] - Star Writer is a full featured word processor part of the Star Office Suite. Supports XML file format, and is compatible with other office suites including Microsoft Office. Users can create new or read write and edit existing MS-Office files. 10. [Any known users] - 11. [Contributor Name] - Dinesh Bareja 12. [Contributor's Email Address] - dinesh(a)ideagrid.com 13. [Personal Comments] - It is great to switch over since I have all the features of a powerful word processor at hand and also have a Suite of licensed applications which give me all the applications for my business needs. 14. [Any Snapshots of the application] - 15. [Interesting or Related Links with Description] - http://www.sun.com/emrkt/whynot/staroffice.html, http://supportforum.sun.com/staroffice I do hope that the LUGgers feel good about this and look forward to comments and feedback so I can freeze this format and go ahead with the collection. Best wishes - Dinesh Bareja (M) +91 98203 0159 (T) +91 22 2878 9067 |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | ======== http://www.ideagrid.com ======= | | winning strategies ! simple ideas ! | | Open Source Products, Services & Training | |---------------------------------------------------------------------|

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] knoppix Install Script.
by Kalpesh M. Vyas 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

Hi Erle, Thanks for your effort to help out the hdd installation of Linux from the knoppix cd. I am interested in getting the modified hd installation script from you. I will highly appreciate it if you can mail me at this address. Thanks & Warm Regards, Kalpesh M. Vyas > Been off the list for some time.... so i have missed quite a few mails/ > threads.. so 'excuse please ' if this is a repeat of sorts > > Caught a bit of a thread regarding the knoppix boot cd ... > > I have trimmed the Knoppix Install script ( knx-hdinstall ) to allow me to > install knoppix on a Harddisk with the filesystem of my choice . > ( Ya I know... why do you want to install,..... well why not ? ) > > The existing one was in german and currently defaults to ext2. > (I have used the Cd from the Linux for you issue #1 ) > > I have stripped the dialog boxes out, so that one can first format the > partition manually with the required filesystem. then change a few variables > at the start of the script, and run. > > Still needs a bit of work, but i have used it twice already without much > issue. > If anyone wants it please contact me. > Its under 4kb so maybe i could mail it to the list ? > ( standard disclaimers apply :-) > > C'ya > Erle.

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List of sourceforge.net projects !
by Akhilesh S Shirbhate 24 Feb '03

24 Feb '03

Hi friends, Can I get a list of names and summary of all the projects currently hosted on sourceforge.net ? I want the whole list with a brief summary of each project. Its cumbersome to browse the whole sourceforge.net site. So, one page reference will be a good aid for devellopers. Reply awaited Regards Akhilesh ************************************* http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~akhilesh/ *************************************

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Re:FSF-OS movement in kolhapur.....help/contacts invited plz
by Gurpreet Singh 23 Feb '03

23 Feb '03

>Message: 6 >Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:16:48 -0800 (PST) > From: The GNU/Linuxer <thegnuer(a)yahoo.de> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: FSF-OS movement in >kolhapur........help/contacts invited pls >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi LUGgers [especially Trevor & Gurpreet], aah! hi bhaskar, i was looking out for u since long. where were u? >You can count me too! I am a student of D.Y.Patil College of >Engg. & >Technology which is under Shivaji Univ. & I stay in Kolhapur >city. I am >available for _any thing_ happening in the region related to >FLOSS. You >can get in touch with me any time you have some plans regarding >FSF-OS. >But I didn't understand one thing. You were talking about holding >talks >in the Shivaji University. I went to the varsity on the 8th Feb >but >there was absolutely *nothing* there. Could any one please >enlighten me dear, on the 8th trevor n dinesh had come down to univ and they dilivered a talk on free sw. we even had knoppix and gnuwin cds on sale and they went like hot cakes. neways, i have started a mailing list for the place, ilug_sm(a)yahoogroups.com to subscribe, send a mail to ilug_sm-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com need to hear more from u gurpreet >? >Regards, >Bhaskar Ghose aka the GNU/Linuxer > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ilug-goa] SALIS workshop
by Trevor Warren 23 Feb '03

23 Feb '03

Hello ashley....;) good-morning. It inspiring to see the enthusiasm with which you are pushing gnu-linux at the event. Sometime ago i was pushing fn for a event covering all the Technical/Engineering Colleges in and around GOA. An Ellaborate workshop covering various facets of FSF-OS and basic technical/non-technical concepts regarding gnu-linux. Am interested in seeing the same kicked off. Only if you could start the leg work for that.....the Bombay LUG will be glad to have some volunteers participate in the road show all over GOA and surrounding areas. Have a nice day all. Am open to working in various ways....lets just keep spreading our tentacles all over the Educational Institutions across our country. Trevor On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 00:12, Ashley Delaney wrote: > hey guys no word from you as yet about his!! dont i get nay help in > popularising linux? > will be there today evening > Ashley

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Re: FSF-OS movement in kolhapur........help/contacts invited pls
by Gurpreet Singh 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 Trevor Warren wrote : > >Hello Gp, > good-evening...:) well good evening again :D > > GP....i have been thinking about the event we just visited >at >Kolhapur and Dinesh, i am very glad with the way you went about >having >the Organisers convinced about the Genuiness of FSF-OS thus >culminating >in having us present our case to the audience. thankyou for the compliment mr warren, but u dont have to mention that again and agian and embaress me! :) > > Can i suggest we start talking to Miss. Ambuja again as she >is a real >formidable force at Shivaji University. We would be really glad >to >conduct workshops Technical/Non-Technical for the various >Engineering >Colleges in Shivaji University. [snip] yes! infact if u remember i told u abt the potential of ambuja maam right that day, if u have her in the movement we'll have a very strong base in this area. i am a base agreed but i am leaving in 85 days flat, although i can be on the mailing lists but the physical presence might not be there. so she is one person we must get to. another important person id principal pj kulkarni of walchand college. and ofcourse my HOD mr ghorpade. these are the ppl we can really bank on! > > A lot of Engineering Colleges are getting more and more >interested in >the FSF-OS phenomenon and i want to bank on you towards having >this >movement taken to the maximum colleges in Interior Maharashtra. [snip] i am available, for anything and everything, and i dont HAVE to think twice for that... > > Please think about the same....i also want the LUGGERS to >know about >our efforts and suggest possible course of action. We would >also >appreciate if anyone could forward contacts for Various >Engineering/Technical Institutes around the State such that >making >inroads becomes easier than Cold Calling. > > Thanks GP. And get back to us as soon as possible on the >same. > >Trevor > > > > > > > Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Ilug-belgaum March Meet
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hello all...;) good-morning. I am open to visiting Belgaum for your upcoming meet. We just need to know your schedules for the same since i have project deployments all over the country coming up. We sure want to drop in, but please let us know your schedule for the same such that i can start making arrangements for... Dinesh Karunakar Abhijit Me...to come accross and talk on Free Software, Open Source and Gnu-linux. Let us know about the same and we will co-ordinate and be part of your gathering at belgaum. Also....we need to VISIT ALL THE ENGINEERING colleges in Belgaum. Please think on those lines and let us know how we can start working towards conducting Workshops on gnu-linux, Free Software and Open Source at all these colleges. I am available on my cell ...9820349221(M). Please finalise your plans and let me know about the same such that i can check my schedule and with the other speakers too. Trevor On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 18:21, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:50:45 +0000 > "rohan kangralkar" <rohankangralkar(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > hello Mr Trevor W and Karunakar, > > We are the coordinators of Belgaum GNU/Linux Group.We had > > meet you in the SICSR GNUify meet > > We are willing to have a meet at march end and would like to know if > > it is possiable for you to come to belgaum for a talk. Just let us > > know wether you are free and the topic on which you are going to > > talk and the time of the talk( embeded systems or anything technical > > or Indian Language solution on GNU/linux ). We have talked to goa > > members(fredrick Norohan) and few of them are comming to belgaum. > > Hoping for a positive response bye > > I am interested, but not sure whether would time for it in march, as > there is another event coming up march end. & I have to prepare for > it. Will let you know a little later (1-2 weeks) if it would be > possible in March. Meanwhile I will get active on the belgaum list, > discussing localisation there. Anyways I would like to form a > background before visiting there. Will also see what Trevor's ideas > are. > > Regards, > Karunakar > > -- > Hating people is like burning down your house to get rid of a rat - > Anon > > --------------------------- > * Indian Linux project * > * http://www.indlinux.org * > ---------------------------

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FSF-OS movement in kolhapur........help/contacts invited pls
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hello Gp, good-evening...:) GP....i have been thinking about the event we just visited at Kolhapur and Dinesh, i am very glad with the way you went about having the Organisers convinced about the Genuiness of FSF-OS thus culminating in having us present our case to the audience. Can i suggest we start talking to Miss. Ambuja again as she is a real formidable force at Shivaji University. We would be really glad to conduct workshops Technical/Non-Technical for the various Engineering Colleges in Shivaji University. A lot of Engineering Colleges are getting more and more interested in the FSF-OS phenomenon and i want to bank on you towards having this movement taken to the maximum colleges in Interior Maharashtra. Please think about the same....i also want the LUGGERS to know about our efforts and suggest possible course of action. We would also appreciate if anyone could forward contacts for Various Engineering/Technical Institutes around the State such that making inroads becomes easier than Cold Calling. Thanks GP. And get back to us as soon as possible on the same. Trevor

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Re: [Linux Workshop] - Khopoli
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hello Navin...;) Anytime...just let us know which weekend is good for the organisers and then we will see how it looks with us. We will educate them on gnu-linux..concepts of Free Software and Open Source and making careers on the same. As per my previous mail.....our contact nos are for the organisers to get in touch with us. Have a nice day all. Trevor On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 18:33, Navin Dhanuka wrote: > Hello Guys, > > Please check > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20030217/009209.ht… > > And let me know if you are willing to conduct a workshop there. > > Waiting for a +ve reply. > > Happy Hacking > Navin Dhanuka.. > > > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about Freedom -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.gurucool.org __ /~\ > | \) / navindhanuka[AT]hotmail[DOT]com \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Student, MSc CA, SICSR / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Outline for hardware vendors workshop...
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Fantastic idea...when do we start out on the same...??. Any vendor wanting to bring all the other vendors under their roof for a start. Trevor On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 00:27, FN wrote: > Here's an interesting post from the Mumbai LUG (Linuxers List), and it > seems well thought out to be certainly worth reproducing. Could we think > of something similar in Goa? FN > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:26:32 +0530 (IST) > From: Dinesh Shah <dinesh(a)shahmicro.com> > To: ILUG-Bom Mailing List <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Outline of course for Hardware Vendors. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi All, > > I have thought of the following course/guideline for workshop for Hardware > Vendors. > > The duration of the workshop will be 1 day (6-8 hrs). > > 1. Why Free and Open Source Software (30 Mins). > > 2. Outline of the System and Basic differences between GNU/Linux and MS > Windows. (30 Mins). > > 3. Hardware compatibility and on-line references for checking > compatibilities of various hardware. (30 Mins). > > 4. Introduction to various common Applications (30 Mins). > > 5. Installation of GNU/Linux, partitioning basics, dual boot etc. (2 Hrs.). > > 6. Introduction to basic System Administration, CLI, GUI, X, WM, DM etc. > (1:30 Hrs.) > > 7. Basic troubleshooting principles and guidelines. (Reading log files > etc.) (30 Mins). > > We have to evolve course material as above. Please suggest any changes, > addition deletion etc. Also this is just a broad outline. We need detail > course material which we can give to workshop participants as handouts. > > Everyone is requested to contribute. > TIA > With regards, > -- > --Dinesh Shah :-) > Shah Micro System > Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com > Mobile : (+91) 98213-11906 > Res. : (+91-22) 56919423 > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:48:53 +0530 > From: Parag Shah <pshah(a)adaptivesoftware.biz> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Outline of course for Hardware Vendors. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi, > http://www.linuxtraining.co.uk/download/ has linux training slides for > download. The license is based on the Linux Documentation Project > license. Maybe we can take some pointers (in applicable areas) from them > to build on (re-use), add our own material where required and then allow > the training material to evolve over time. This may help in getting > started quickly. > We will just have to review the license properly to check if we are > allowed to re-use their material. > > regards > Parag > > > --__--__-- > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/FpY02D/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/0XFolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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About RAID
by srinivas 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hi all I am having a little bit of confussing in raid(Redundant array of Inexpensive disks). The basic idea of RAID was to combine multiple small, inexpensive disk drives into an array of disk drives which yields performance exceeding that of a Single Large Expensive Drive.In Linux how internally it will do?. Can I call this as hardware cluster.Can any one plz help me regarding this. Thanx in advance. Regards, Srinivas Rao NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. 11-20, 2nd Lane, Appu street, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. Phones:044-24617193/94/95 (o)

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Regarding conversion of IMAP mailbox to database
by kavita modi 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

Hello all, I want to convert my IMAP mailbox to any database. Is there any tools which does this? Actually i dont want to convert all mailbox , but only some mailbox. Such that i can get report that how many replies come to this mailbox and how many are bounced which will help me to put report web-based. rgds kavita

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www.ilug-bom.org.in website
by philip＠konark.ncst.ernet.in 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

mentions that i gave a lecture on CVS. I did not. My lecture was on libtool versioning - specifically on picking the correct version number for you libraries. Philip

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Outline of course for Hardware Vendors.
by Dinesh Shah 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

Hi All, I have thought of the following course/guideline for workshop for Hardware Vendors. The duration of the workshop will be 1 day (6-8 hrs). 1. Why Free and Open Source Software (30 Mins). 2. Outline of the System and Basic differences between GNU/Linux and MS Windows. (30 Mins). 3. Hardware compatibility and on-line references for checking compatibilities of various hardware. (30 Mins). 4. Introduction to various common Applications (30 Mins). 5. Installation of GNU/Linux, partitioning basics, dual boot etc. (2 Hrs.). 6. Introduction to basic System Administration, CLI, GUI, X, WM, DM etc. (1:30 Hrs.) 7. Basic troubleshooting principles and guidelines. (Reading log files etc.) (30 Mins). We have to evolve course material as above. Please suggest any changes, addition deletion etc. Also this is just a broad outline. We need detail course material which we can give to workshop participants as handouts. Everyone is requested to contribute. TIA With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com Mobile : (+91) 98213-11906 Res. : (+91-22) 56919423

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My commentary on GNUnify
by Philip S Tellis 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

I recently had the opportunity to be at GNUnify - a Free software festival. The guest of honour was the GNU man himself - RMS. I was present on Sunday the 16th February where most of the invited talks were held. There have been other reports on GNUnify, so I'll concentrate only on the Mumbai GLUG's contribution. Names may have been changed, no disrespect is meant by this. The day started out with Dr. Nagnurjuna telling us why we should use Free Software, and dispelling some of the myths that have been spread by persons with other agendas. His contention that changing from our current operating system to GNU is no different from the changes that we have to make every two years to start using a new version of that OS is sound. Nagarjuna tends to flavour his lectures with a lot of humour and it was quite engaging that day. Especially funny was his comment about changing word processors: "We changed from WordStar to another word processor called Word Perfect, and then to another word processor called Word, and then to another word processor called Word, and then to another word processor called Word...". I overheard RMS commend him on this point too. Nag also had a three stage IQ test during his presentation. In the first case he asked the audience if they knew who was responsible for certain inventions/discoveries in science. He next asked people if they knew who had written certain Free Software projects (linux, emacs, gcc, perl, python), and finally who had written certain Proprietary products. Everyone got the first two correct. Later in the day Prof. Jeetendra Shah - or should we call him Freetendra Shahftware? - delivered a talk on the use of Free Software in education. He spoke primarily about research done by Seymour Papert in the use of computers to enable education. This is different from using computers to teach children. While the latter uses the computer to program children, the former lets the children learn by programming a computer. The talk was particularly interesting for me because it deals with my area of research. He spoke about how Free Software could help us achieve this goal, primarily by building different scenarios for people from different backgrounds. He also demonstrated Freeduc and distributed 25 CDs of the same. He suggests that every school should have one of these CDs. Jeetendra Shah was quite active throughout the day urging people to come forward and support other projects too, like IndLinux. The final attraction was RMS' speech. Nagarjuna introduced him, although it sounded more like he was reading out his own death warrant. He said RMS was not a person, and then followed it up by saying he's history. At that point RMS was ready to strangle Nag, if it weren't for the large number of people watching. There were several Mumbai Gluggers in Pune over the weekend. I'm told Nirav gave a lecture on PHP on Saturday. I wasn't present for that. I also met Gurpreet Singh - who's been on the receiving end of my list policing on more than one occassion. He made some insightful comments during Prof. Shah's presentation. He's requested me to post the usenet etiquette here, so I'm going to do it for the last time ever. It's now up to younger chaps to take the initiative. http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20021125/007711.ht… which refers to: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html I'd also post a link to Eric Raymond's article on tuxedo.org, but can anyone get to tuxedo.org today? Well, if anyone can, it's at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Oh, yeah, the list search engine is at http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/search/linuxers Philip -- When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her. -- Sacha Guitry

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[OT] [Commercial] Course on Artificial Neural Networks
by Philip S Tellis 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

A 4-day course on Artificial Neural Networks is being held at NCST, Kharghar campus from 10th to 13th March, 2003. The course is open to all those who are interested in the field of neural networks, and assumes no background either in NN or AI. As you know neural networks are being applied heavily in a variety of disciplines from finance, diagnosis, pattern recognition, etc. The course will start with simple perceptron systems and will cover back-propagation based multi-layer perceptron systems, Radial basis function networks, Hopfield networks, and Self organising maps. Guidelines for developing neural network models will also be explored. Participants will explore the various frameworks using a NN development kit, for various data sets so as to get a clear understanding of their functioning and utility. For details, please refer to: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/education/advcourses/ann/ Or write to advcourse(a)yuga.ncst.ernet.in

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[Announce] libyahoo2 0.6.3 released
by Philip S Tellis 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

Announcing version 0.6.3 of libyahoo2 libyahoo2 is a C library implementation of a Yahoo! messenger client. Get it from http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/ Changes: * Yahoo! Addressbook support * Group renaming * UTF-8 encoded message support If you use libyahoo2, you should probably join the mailing list. libyahoo2 is for people who wish to implement a Yahoo! messenger client. It is not for people who only want to chat. Philip -- As long as we're going to reinvent the wheel again, we might as well try making it round this time. - Mike Dennison

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