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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The BJP’s awkward embrace of Free Software
by Rahul Rai 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

Check one more Article.. This time on Indian Express.. http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/janus-act-govt-love-for-windows/446…

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How do I change my list specs?
by Sanjay Singhvi 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

Hi, Though I am a member, I avoid posting much as I have subscribed only for the digest. To post from the digest directly involves forming a new subject (top-posting?) which I want to avoid. I want to change my list preferences to get individual mails so that I can reply to those I feel like. How do I change my preferences. I looked up on the list page but could not find the link. Regards, Sanjay Singhvi

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BJP's Akward embrace of free software
by Rahul Rai 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

*The BJP’s awkward embrace of Free Software * ** http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/10/stories/2009041055960900.htm Deepa Kurup *The party’s discovery of the virtues of OS would appear to sit uncomfortably with its slogan “Let a hundred Bangalores bloom.” * The IT manifesto of the Bharatiya Janata Party has created ripples among software circles with its support for Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), and its opposition to “digital standards.” While the Kerala government has a policy that makes the use of FOSS in government and education mandatory, Tamil Nadu has implemented it in a few departments. Left parties have for long backed the Free Software movement politically. It is surprising that the BJP, with its strong pro-corporate and pro-patent leanings, should back this cause. Even as the Free Software community is celebrating this latest endorsement, sceptics among its ranks are cautious about taking the BJP’s promises at face value. Its track record, when in power at the Centre and in the States, provides grounds for these misgivings. Consider this. As late as January 2009, the BJP government in Gujarat, led by Chief Minister Narendra Modi, inked a deal with the global proprietary software giant Microsoft that includes a Microsoft-developed IT curriculum for high school students, teacher training, certification programmes, and offers free Microsoft software development tools to universities. Less than two months on, the party manifesto in its “eEducation” section declares: “We will actively promote Free and Open Source Software, including operating systems, which will introduce the habit of innovation (‘tinkering’) among students.” In fact, in 2006 the BJP government in Rajasthan signed a similar deal with Microsoft under Project Shiksha, and in 2004, the BJP-JD(S) coalition in Karnataka, tied up with proprietary giant for education and e-governance initiatives. Prabir Purkayastha of the Delhi Science Forum feels the manifesto reflects the “blinkered vision” of the BJP, which has “never taken an anti-monopoly stance.” Dr. Purkayastha points out how Free Software circles are abuzz with an interesting anomaly in L.K. Advani’s speech at the manifesto launch: “Mr. Advani referred to how impressed he was on his visit to the Microsoft Office in the U.S. He did not see the stark contradiction, as he proudly reflected on the number of Indians present there!” FOSS activists, however, hope this means increased visibility for their cause, considering a large number of National E-governance Missions are in the pipeline, for which Rs. 6000 crore has been earmarked in the 11th Five Year Plan. The 40-page document also promises to set up an “IT standards-setting body,” carving it out of the Bureau of Indian Standards, and promises all government software will conform to these “open standards.” Venkitesh Hariharan, a senior Red Hat official, says: “It is significant because so far there hasn’t been any conscious effort towards policy making. Public data and websites have been in both proprietary and open format.” Digital standards As for their new stance on “digital standards” — that is, proprietary claims on algorithms and software programmes — the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance government, notably, was the first to amend the Patent Act in March 1999 and in June 2002 as part of the WTO agreement under Trade Related Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS). The seemingly innocuous phrase “software per se,” which the NDA government introduced into section 3(K) of the Indian Patents Act, was a loophole through which software could be brought under a patenting regime from a copyright one. According to Dr. Purkayastha, the amendments had nothing to do with TRIPS which does not even include software or computer programmes in its ambit. “A 2004 ordinance provided for patenting of computer programmes used in combination with hardware. Later, while in the opposition the BJP opposed the bill — even though it was virtually drafted by their Commerce Minister Arun Jaitley. It was presented without any changes,” he says. This was revoked in 2005 by the United Progressive Alliance under pressure from the Left. Corporates such as IT majors Infosys and TCS have long lobbied for patents. When contacted, a senior spokesperson from Microsoft, a company that will be hit hardest by an OS regime, told *The Hindu* that the company is “encouraged by the focus on IT by political parties,” describing the policy of the Government of India as one of “technology neutrality.” The BJP’s discovery of the virtues of OS would appear to sit uncomfortably with its slogan “Let a hundred Bangalores bloom.” Rahul

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The BJP’s awkward embrace of Free Software
by Pravin Dhayfule 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

> > I dont trust Politicians. Previously Caste and Religion was used as > Election manifesto, and its a pity now that the Opensource community is > being dragged into politics.... Its not politicians, but we IT professionals > who have promoted Open source Applications... Open Source Platform is for > all and not a dependent on political promotion... > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rahul Rai <rahul4unity(a)gmail.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:28:50 +0530 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] BJP's Akward embrace of free software > *The BJP’s awkward embrace of Free Software * > > ** > http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/10/stories/2009041055960900.htm > > Deepa Kurup > > *The party’s discovery of the virtues of OS would appear to sit > uncomfortably with its slogan “Let a hundred Bangalores bloom.” * > > The IT manifesto of the Bharatiya Janata Party has created ripples among > software circles with its support for Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), > and its opposition to “digital standards.” While the Kerala government has > a > policy that makes the use of FOSS in government and education mandatory, > Tamil Nadu has implemented it in a few departments. Left parties have for > long backed the Free Software movement politically. It is surprising that > the BJP, with its strong pro-corporate and pro-patent leanings, should back > this cause. > > Even as the Free Software community is celebrating this latest endorsement, > sceptics among its ranks are cautious about taking the BJP’s promises at > face value. Its track record, when in power at the Centre and in the > States, > provides grounds for these misgivings. > > Consider this. As late as January 2009, the BJP government in Gujarat, led > by Chief Minister Narendra Modi, inked a deal with the global proprietary > software giant Microsoft that includes a Microsoft-developed IT curriculum > for high school students, teacher training, certification programmes, and > offers free Microsoft software development tools to universities. > > Less than two months on, the party manifesto in its “eEducation” section > declares: “We will actively promote Free and Open Source Software, > including > operating systems, which will introduce the habit of innovation > (‘tinkering’) among students.” In fact, in 2006 the BJP government in > Rajasthan signed a similar deal with Microsoft under Project Shiksha, and > in > 2004, the BJP-JD(S) coalition in Karnataka, tied up with proprietary giant > for education and e-governance initiatives. > > Prabir Purkayastha of the Delhi Science Forum feels the manifesto reflects > the “blinkered vision” of the BJP, which has “never taken an anti-monopoly > stance.” Dr. Purkayastha points out how Free Software circles are abuzz > with > an interesting anomaly in L.K. Advani’s speech at the manifesto launch: > “Mr. > Advani referred to how impressed he was on his visit to the Microsoft > Office > in the U.S. He did not see the stark contradiction, as he proudly reflected > on the number of Indians present there!” > > FOSS activists, however, hope this means increased visibility for their > cause, considering a large number of National E-governance Missions are in > the pipeline, for which Rs. 6000 crore has been earmarked in the 11th Five > Year Plan. The 40-page document also promises to set up an “IT > standards-setting body,” carving it out of the Bureau of Indian Standards, > and promises all government software will conform to these “open > standards.” > > > Venkitesh Hariharan, a senior Red Hat official, says: “It is significant > because so far there hasn’t been any conscious effort towards policy > making. > Public data and websites have been in both proprietary and open format.” > Digital standards > > As for their new stance on “digital standards” — that is, proprietary > claims on algorithms and software programmes — the BJP-led National > Democratic Alliance government, notably, was the first to amend the Patent > Act in March 1999 and in June 2002 as part of the WTO agreement under Trade > Related Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS). The seemingly innocuous > phrase > “software per se,” which the NDA government introduced into section 3(K) of > the Indian Patents Act, was a loophole through which software could be > brought under a patenting regime from a copyright one. > > According to Dr. Purkayastha, the amendments had nothing to do with TRIPS > which does not even include software or computer programmes in its ambit. > “A > 2004 ordinance provided for patenting of computer programmes used in > combination with hardware. Later, while in the opposition the BJP opposed > the bill — even though it was virtually drafted by their Commerce Minister > Arun Jaitley. It was presented without any changes,” he says. This was > revoked in 2005 by the United Progressive Alliance under pressure from the > Left. > > Corporates such as IT majors Infosys and TCS have long lobbied for patents. > When contacted, a senior spokesperson from Microsoft, a company that will > be > hit hardest by an OS regime, told *The Hindu* that the company is > “encouraged by the focus on IT by political parties,” describing the policy > of the Government of India as one of “technology neutrality.” > > The BJP’s discovery of the virtues of OS would appear to sit uncomfortably > with its slogan “Let a hundred Bangalores bloom.” > Rahul > > > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > -- To claim oneself to be a Well Wisher isnt a big deal! 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Check out my photos on Facebook
by Naveen Dhanuka 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

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realtime reports of squid3
by sameer shinde 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

Dear All, How can I get real-time reports from squid? I'm using squid3 on Ubuntu Server 8.04 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Facebook & Hotmail on Ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Hi, A friend has a strange problem that I have been unable to solve, so I thought I'd canvas for suggestions here. Since the last week or so, he has been unable to log in to Facebook or Hotmail from Ubuntu. He has a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows XP. He is connected via a MTNL Triband connection. Both sites still work fine in XP. Other sites work fine in Ubuntu. He's tried several alternate browsers besides Firefox, including Opera, SeaMonkey, etc. but has the same problem there. Sometimes the login page on Hotmail loads up, but logging in doesn't produce any response. In Facebook again, sometimes the login page loads, but doesn't work. In SeaMonkey, sometimes logging in to Facebook does proceed to the home page, but then no other links work. I have tried googling, but no satisfactory solution showed up. Suggestions included clearing the cache/cookies (no effect & in any case multiple browsers makes this unlikely), changing DNS servers (tried both MTNL & OpenDNS, and in any case they're the same servers as set under Windows), and even checking the Java install (I really doubt MS uses Java on the Hotmail page, but I tried it anyway). Ping times of both sites seem normal. Any further lines of inquiry would be appreciated. Thanks, Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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[INFO] wicd for those plagued by knetwork-manager.
by Rony 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Hello, Are you frustrated with network setups in KDE? Do you spend long hours trying to figure out just how to get your network device up in KDE? Are you fed up with knetwork-manager not displaying your network devices? Have you spent sleepless nights trying to figure out knetwork-manager but met with no success due to unavailability of proper configuration files? Well! Don't fret, don't fume, don't bang your head on the wall, just throw out knetworkmanager and install wicd. Reboot your system and you will get a network icon in the system tray. On opening its window your devices will be listed. Next to each device, on the left is a tiny arrow button that almost gets unnoticed but clicking on that arrow will drop down details for setting up each device, wired or wireless. For wpa wireless setup, in the preferences section select the correct wireless driver. If one doesen't work, try all others till your connection gets established. In my Acer Travelmate 2428, for Lenny, the Intel 2200 device used the ipw2200 driver with a manually added firmware but in wicd, instead of 'ipw', I had to use 'wext' to get proper authenticaton, so once you set your passphrase and encryption type (wep, wpa, ....) try out all drivers if the default does not work. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook & Hotmail on Ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

Hi, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > somebody else's ubuntu machine. Yours for example? Both sites work fine in general on other ubuntu machines. I've used both the sites on 7.10, 8.04 & 8.10, all on triband connections. So it isn't any generic ubuntu/mtnl issue. Balwinder Singh wrote: > Capture packets (using tcpdump) and try to understand > what is happening. I'll try that. I only have intermittent remote desktop access to the machine - so I have to be careful not to make any mistake that completely borks the networking. :-) Rony wrote: > Just for kicks, try another browser like Konquerar or Opera. I have already tried 4 browsers. All have the same problem. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook & Hotmail on Ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi, Raj Mathur wrote: > See if turning ECN off helps: > You could also play around with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies I tried out toggling all combinations of tcp_ecn & tcp_syncookies - makes no difference. I also asked him to try a LiveCD, but his LiveCD seems to have gotten scratched/corrupt, so that's not going to be possible for a while. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook & Hotmail on Ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi, Pankaj Jangid wrote: > To be precise: (1) The website doesn't load or (2) He is > just not able to Login into the site? Sometimes the login page doesn't load - the browser just waits. Other times the login page appears but after entering the login/passwd and pressing Submit, it doesn't respond. The browser just sits there, the percentage bar moves for a while and nothing happens. Usually after a longish while he gets a timeout error on the browser - i.e. "Server did not respond".... Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook & Hotmail on Ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi, Thanks for all the responses. I shall try them and reply if anything works. Might take a while though - remote access is often tedious. Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > Can he log in from ubuntu from some other machine? He has only one machine. Harsh Busa wrote: > if you can try to use a live cd of ubuntu or some other linux > based flavor you might be able to find some headway. Yes, I'll try that. Unfortunately, I very strongly suspect it'll work on the Live CD & that won't tell me anything then. :-) Raj Mathur wrote: > See if turning ECN off helps: > You could also play around with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies Since I've never tried that, it sounds like a good possibility, thanks. :-) Rony wrote: > Has he added a wireless router to his ADSL modem? Nope, just a direct, single ethernet cable to the modem. scrapo wrote: > I do not know what other sites you have tried, but facebook > has an exceptionally high amount of Javascript, ...... Ah but if that was the problem, other browsers should work. And I did clean out cookies & cache to make sure. As I said, the problem is in all installed browsers. And the sites used to work fine till last week. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Facebook & Hotmail on Ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi, Dinesh A. Joshi wrote: > See the reason would be some libraries on Ubuntu may have > gotten corrupted which is producing such behavior. But *what* libraries? Other sites work fine. Only facebook & hotmail seem to be affected. > So you're telling me that on the same machine he's got dual boot > with XP and Ubuntu, right? Using the same MTNL connection, the > sites work fine on XP and dont load up with Ubuntu. Hmm...maybe > he should use XP... haha :) Ha ha. Here I'm trying to keep him convinced to use XP only for games and use Ubuntu for everything else.... And the system has been working perfectly from last August (when I installed it) till about a week ago. I suppose it's possible that one of the security updates did the damage, but why on earth would it only affect those 2 sites. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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MySQL encrypted passwords..
by Chirag R 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hi Guys, I am working on an application which needs to connect to MySQL database for updating/insertion etc. For the application to pickup the username/password I've created a config file somewhere on the system which looks like this: <snip> [mysqld] user=root password=mypassword port=3306 </snip> Problem is that this file can be read by root on that server and my password pretty much known to anyone who has root access. Is there anyway I can keep the password in encrypted format and still connect to mysql database? . Just to give an example of what I am looking at, in openldap you can generate a password in encrypted format using slappasswd -t {MD5} -s mypassword and store it in your slapd.conf file. Even if someone does get access to slapd.conf, still s/he cannot decrypt the password very easily. Please note that I cannot hard code the password into my application, since the root password for MySQL is subject to change without notice to me. TIA, Chiragz

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[OT] Database of present candidates standing for elections
by aniketh patrick 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

Hello, Is there anywhere I can get a database of the present candidates standing for elections? I tried the Election Commission website (http://eci.nic.in) but they do not have a download. All that exists there is a .net form with postbacks, and it looks like a pain to scrape. IBN does have some data, but it seems incomplete with a lot of parties and candidates missing. Any help would be really useful. Regards, Aniketh

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Open Source University Syllabus
by Venkatesh Hariharan 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

Does anyone have copies of/links to university syllabus that prescribes open source software in the main (not elective) syllabus? One of our supporters is advising a university in connection with finalizing the syllabus for their courses. Currently, their syllabus includes oracle/windows/DotNET/SQL 2005 and other proprietary products/technologies. If you have copies of/links to university syllabus that prescribes open source software, that would strengthen the case. Kindly forward the same to me. Regards, Venky

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difference between redirect program and rewrite program
by sameer shinde 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi All, What is the difference between redirect_program and url_rewrite_program in squid3? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Chat messenger.
by Sachin 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi All I am looking for a chat service for a midsized company which has features like secured data transfer , Group Chat,voice chat (optional) with all the basic chat features which can run on linux and few windows machine too. Jabber server does not fit on my requirement. Is there any other server + client which fits them all. Please suggest. Sachin Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MySQL encrypted passwords..
by Raghu Prasad 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

> 1. My App looks bad since it requires to store password in clear-text in a > file. This is more of client requirement; they do not want any password to > be stored in clear-text. > <snip> > 2. Accidentally doing a cat even by root will make the password visible. You don't need to keep the password in clear text. Encode it in Base64 and keep it in the configuration file. This will solve the problem of accidental viewing by some less tech savvy support personnel. But still it doesn't secure your password. If someone sees and remembers or notes down the encoded string, the original password can be retrieved from it easily. You can also encrypt the password with a key. Then hard code the key in the application itself. This will solve above problem as key can't be retrieved without doing a detailed analysis of your app. There are ways to embed the key text in an executable so that it won't turn up in the output of "strings" command. Since MySQL requires password to be supplied in clear text, your application needs to keep it somewhere. Anyway none of the methods mentioned above guarantees hundred percent security. > 3. If you send across the system info to support to troubleshoot my App, > this file maybe included. Customer passwords will be exposed to support > guys. (I know customer can remove the password line and send across the > file, but again its about convenience) The best practice is to keep sensitive data in a separate configuration file and don't keep it in the application base directory. For example if your application is installed in /user/local/myapp, the file with password should be kept in /etc/myapp.conf or something. So archiving the application base won't include this file. > I know root can access almost any file and cause damage/modify, but that is > something I am not worried about. The idea is to not keep it ridiculously > easy for someone to crack. Then above mentioned methods should be good enough. Raghu

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Fedora 10 DVDs
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Hi, I have got a spindle of brand new F10 DVDs and some nice F10 stickers. If there are people who want the same, please contact me offlist. I can't send them by courier unless the cost is taken care of, so in effect we have to arrange for a meeting somewhere in Mumbai, Navi Mumbai or better yet - New Panvel ( where I live ) :). Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://www.kde.in Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Wasupp?
by Monika Shah 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Hey GNU/Linux, I use this really great site to send free SMS! What's even cooler is that - We get paid for cool offers they send. - We can load up this money on our mobile, encash it or donate it to charity! It's a really cool idea! Over 25 lakh Indians have joined and have generated over 60 Lakhs in member earnings already! Joining is free too! Here's the link: [1]http://www.youmint.com/network-monikashah I just had to share this with you. Enjoy! Monika Shah -------------------------------- You've received this invite from Monika Shah who wants you to join the YouMint Revolution. To stop further mailings, [2]click here.YouMint treats your privacy VERY SERIOUSLY and will take strict action against the sender if you don't know them personally. Copyright 2007-2008 YouMint Media (P) Ltd. References 1. http://www.youmint.com/network-monikashah 2. http://www.youmint.com/decline.php?user_id=1264293&email=linuxers@mm.glug-b…

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[X Post] Debian GNU/Linux Device Driver Check
by Kartik Mistry 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Debian HCL aka Debian GNU/Linux Device Driver Check: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ Full story at: http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/hclv2.htm -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Debian GNU/Linux Developer Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com

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Webcam not working on Ubuntu
by sushanth poojary 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

hey, I have been trying to get this webcam to work on ubuntu though it gets detected, the video is not getting captured i have been using cheese to do that any help on this would be great. I have provided output values of a few commands to show how its getting detected *sushanth@sushanth:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0c45:613b Microdia Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 * sushanth@sushanth:~$ ls -l /dev/video* crwxrwxr-x 1 root video 81, 0 2009-04-01 01:03 /dev/video0 Regards, Sushanth Poojary

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HP lj1007 printer not working in ubuntu
by sameer shinde 31 Mar '09

31 Mar '09

Hi All, As the subject of this post shows, I'm using Ubuntu Linux 8.04 / 8.10 on which I've connected HP LaserJet P1007 printer with the USB port. The printer is getting detected in the system but when I shoot any document to the printer, the prints does not printed on the printer. The documents get spooled out of the system & shows that, it is printed successfully on the printer, but it is not printed If I connect another USB printer like HP LaserJet 3005 on the same system, then it can print on that printer( on 3005). If the same printer (LaserJet P1007) I connect to the windows xp system, the printer works properly giving all the prints. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Check out for Freedom Toaster locations
by Joju Joshua 30 Mar '09

30 Mar '09

Hi, India's Freedom Toaster location updated in Freedom Toaster main site. Check out: http://www.freedomtoaster.org/node/14 -- Joju Joshua Zyxware Technologies Trivandrum www.zyxware.com Ph: +91-471-243-7711 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------< "Be the change you wish to see in the world" M K Gandhi >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<

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Display problem Asus P5VD2-VM SE
by Mukesh Yadav 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

Hi, Today I was installing Mint 5 on my firends PC, he is using Asus P5VD2-VM SE. live CD boots normally but When It go to DEsktop it looks something like this. http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00719kc1.jpg this is not my image but it looks the same when I run live cd. any help will appreciated. -- P. J. O'Rourke - "If government were a product, selling it would be illegal."

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[OT] Suggest an ISP in Mumbai
by Dinesh A. Joshi 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

Warning: This post contains strong language. Reader discretion is advised. Hi, So the jackasses of MTNL have ****** up a perfectly working setup at my place in Mumbai. Now my old folks are left without Internet. So I'm thinking of adding a redundant line. They dont require anything fancy - a volume based plan and a low latency connection ( for VoIP ) would be required at the very least. Reliance has cabling but I was burnt the last time I used their services. They're supposed to have improved since then but I dont want to fall into *that* trap once again. Recommendations are welcome. - Dinesh

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[X-Post] Mumpy - Python Users Group Meeting
by Mehul Ved 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

Hello everyone, Mumpy will be organising the Python User's Group meet this Sunday 29th January 2009. Time :- 3:30 p.m Location :- Directi, 330, Link-way Estate, Near Inorbit Mall, Linking Road, Malad (West), Mumbai - 400064. The session will be conducted by Baishampayan Ghose on "Starting with Simple Python Applications using Google App Engine". For further details check the wiki page for the meeting at http://mumpy.org/wiki/Directi29032009 The session will be a hands on practical session so please get your laptops along to make the most out of the session. And don't forget to charge your laptop battery before reaching the venue as there will not be enough plug points. Also, before the meeting do remember to create your Google App Engine account(http://appengine.google.com/) and download the App Engine SDK(http://code.google.com/appengine/downloads.html). -- Higher education helps your earning capacity. Ask any college professor.

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[X-Post] Freenode is looking for donations
by Parthan SR 29 Mar '09

29 Mar '09

--------- Forwarded Content -------------- I will try to keep this brief and to the point. This message has been cross posted to several lists which will explain why you might get more than one copy. I hope you find it informative too. Send all flames to me, not to the lists. I'm taking off the other hats I wear for a moment to ask for you or your company's support of Freenode [1] (technically the Peer-Directed Projects Center or PDPC) now based in the United Kingdom. For those that don't know, Freenode is an IRC [2] network supporting Open Source and Free Software communities globally. Another PDPC activity is the annual FOSSCON conference in the fall. PDPC is specifically [3] raising funds in order to be recognized by the UK as an official charitable organization. This status has many benefits, however they need to raise a certain amount of money by March, 2009. There are just a few days left in the fundraising campaign. Canonical Ltd. (the company created by Mark Shuttleworth that drives Ubuntu Linux) has graciously stepped forward to provide dollar for dollar matching, magnifying the impact of your donations to PDPC. The fund raising goal has almost been reached but your contribution is needed. Brainstorming by the PDPC board of directors for how to use any funds not used for operations includes hosting live conference events in Europe and the US, extending current services and improving the reliability of the freenode network by hosting a few of their own hubs and backup systems. Freenode is growing rapidly [4] supporting up to 57,000 concurrent users up from a maximum of about 40,000 18 months ago. Some people may not be aware that IRC is used by a huge array of Open Source and Free Software projects. The list of groups [5] Freenode works with is truly impressive. I feel it is not at all hyperbole to say that the work done over freenode and OFTC [6] are the real-time backbone of open source collaboration throughout the world, Coders use the IRC network to develop applications used by millions of people every day and provide *end user support*. If you use any open source software you may be an indirect beneficiary of the services Freenode provides. I encourage those who are interested to try launching an IRC client such as Pidgin [7] and see for yourself. You won't be sorry you did. While I have used Freenode for many years, this year I too became a contributor for the first time. For a one time contribution http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml of as little as $8 you can join me in supporting Freenode and the many Open Source projects they serve. Thanks for your consideration, -- -- Grant Bowman <grantbow(a)gmail.com> [1] http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml http://fosscon.org/about/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat is a form of group instant messaging first used in 1988. Related sites include http://www.irchelp.org/ and http://www.irc.org/ [3] http://blog.freenode.net/2008/10/fundraising-for-charity-status/ http://blog.freenode.net/2009/03/20082009-fundraiser-campaign-update/ [4] http://freenode.net/history.shtml also http://searchirc.com/network/Freenode [5] http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml include the Apache Software Foundation, Canonical Ltd (Ubuntu), Creative Commons Corporation, Free Software Foundation (GNU Project), Mozilla Foundation (Firefox), MySQL AB, NetBSD Foundation, Open Darwin Foundation (Apple builds OSX using Darwin), OpenOffice.org, Red Hat, Inc. & the World Wide Web Consortium among others. [6] OFTC is a a similar but much smaller IRC network. See "Freenode and OFTC IRC networks buddy up", May 2007 http://www.linux.com/articles/62098 also http://searchirc.com/network/OFTC [7] http://pidgin.im is an IRC client that runs on Windows, Mac and Linux formerly named Gaim. http://www.mirc.com/ is also popular on the Windows platform. ---------- End -----------------

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Which USB web camera models compatible with ubuntu 8.10
by jitendra 28 Mar '09

28 Mar '09

I need to buy one. Creative web camera (exact model not known, purchased about 2 years ago)does not work. Can any one guide please Do I need to give any more info? -- jitendra

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CPI(M) manifesto calls for promotion of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS)
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

Dear All, The political support for Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) continues to increase. The CPI(M) manifesto released on the 16th of March calls for the promotion of FOSS. The manifesto can be accessed at http://www.cpim.org/manifesto.pdf Following are some of the highlights of the policy - - Promoting FOSS and other such new technologies, which are free from monopoly ownership through copyrights or patents; - Revamping the functioning of the Patent offices to ensure strict adherence to the Indian Patent Act; Stop training and orientation of Indian Patent office personnel by the US and European Patent offices These above measures are critical to support the public education system, local economy and the knowledge commons and counter neo-liberal pressures that aim to privatize the public information/knowledge domain. The CPI(M) has been a traditional supporter of free software, the comprehensive IT programs in Kerala, including in the public school system (http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6) is based on FOSS. With key parties from both the left and the right end of the political spectrum endorsing FOSS, the Congress is left as the only major national party which is yet to formally take a position on FOSS. One hopes that the Congress too will soon extend its support for free software when it releases its own manifesto next week, and explicitly acknowledge the significant political, socio-cultural and economic advantages of FOSS over proprietary software platforms (see http://public-software.in/FOSS-manifesto for a call from the Network of the FOSS Community in India to the political parties, to recognise the advantages of FOSS in their election manifestos). Thanks, Vinay.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 61
by Ashok Sinha 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

I got these 2 error msgs today [root@localhost user]# /etc/init.d/bluetooth start Can't open RFCOMM control socket: Address family not supported by protocol [root@localhost user]# hciconfig -a Can't open HCI socket.: Address family not supported by protocol

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[Commercial] LAMP developer requirements
by Anurag 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Hello! A friend of mine is looking for people to work on PHP/MySQL projects. If you know anyone looking for new opportunities then drop me an email. The requirement needs to be filled urgently. Anurag -- http://web.gnuer.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SSH Problem Someone who can help ?
by Raghu Prasad 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

> I have a small problem here which I wish to describe as an > example.OK so here it is .I have a client and a server both UNIX boxes.I > wish to run SFTP on the client as user A and authenticate as user B on the > server which is going to be accomplished using a script.Se user A is the > owner of the script and he authenticates to server as user B .Now the > problem is when the authentication happens it asks for a manual password > entry which doesn't make sense .I have used ssh rsa keys ..but still no > solution as the authentication needs to be automatic.Any solution to the > problem is welcome Are you able to connect to the server via ssh without password? If not, there could be permission problems in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. The ssh daemon doesn't allow using that file if it is not well protected from other users. Try the following (assuming the user to be B) on the server where sshd is running: chmod 750 ~/.ssh/ chown B.root ~/.ssh/ chmod 640 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys chown B.root ~/.ssh/authorized_keys As suggested in other posts, expect is needed to write scripts using interactive programs like telnet and ftp. I always prefer scp over sftp. Raghu

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SSH Problem Someone who can help ?
by PenguinPuPPy 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hello There, I have a small problem here which I wish to describe as an example.OK so here it is .I have a client and a server both UNIX boxes.I wish to run SFTP on the client as user A and authenticate as user B on the server which is going to be accomplished using a script.Se user A is the owner of the script and he authenticates to server as user B .Now the problem is when the authentication happens it asks for a manual password entry which doesn't make sense .I have used ssh rsa keys ..but still no solution as the authentication needs to be automatic.Any solution to the problem is welcome Thanks Penguinpuppy -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Looking for "C Programmers"
by Siji Sunny 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hello, We are looking for Programmers who's having 6months-1 year programing experience in C/C++ or Python on Linux. Job Responsibility Developing GUI applications in C/C++ on an embedded linux distribution. About Us Net4Uonline Pvt. Ltd. has two business units BizMobile Technologies (Mobile content development & Delivery) and Teshwa Entertainment (Gaming Studio). Teshwa Entertainment develops highly interactive visually stunning multiplayer games for the web. Visit us on the web at: http://www.net4uonline.com/ For further details please mail me (siji.sunny(a)net4uonline.com) or contact me on 022-40108555 With Regards -- Siji Sunny

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USB bluetooth dongle driver
by Ashok Sinha 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Dear experts, I have a usb dongle for bluetooth i use with winXP. Is is possible to get a linux driver. Linpuslinux- Fedora(?) I plugged it in but the system showed no signs of recognizing it. I am not a SW guy so dont tell me to write it myself! Thanks -- Ashok Sinha

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[HW] pci express SATA II add on cards
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

I am looking for a 2-4 port SATA II add on card, with Linux support, that goes into a PCI express slot. Anyone know of any brand/retailer @ Lam. Rd that carries above? Please let me know. I have a couple of PCI SATA cards but they are keyed to fit in the 5.0V PCI slots only. TIA -- Arun Khan

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Debian install query
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

I finally decided to ditch Kubuntu due to multile problems. I tried Mandriva and was completely floored by the install progress. It offered me the option of using ndiswrapper for my wifi card right during the install and the card came up automatically after the install. Clean interface. But I don't want to start a new learning curve right now. But it's definitely going into a vmware vm soon. So back to good old debian. First I got the netinst cd and then tried the debain-kde cd. So far so good. It asked for the isl3886 firmware from a new medium but that was that. The wifi card did not work after the install. Not debian's fault because I haven't been able to get the card working with anythng but ndiswrapper. Even though this was a 'full' cd, the install insisted on downloading a hell of a lot of files (more than 50 or so). Then after the full install was over and I had rebooted and ran apt-update and apt-get upgrade, it wanted to delete almost 40 files using apt-get auto-remove. If I try to install without using a net mirror, the sources.list is bare except for the cdrom line. Now I want to install debian on another machine at a different location. Seeing as how I've already dowloaded all these files on one machine, how can I use this to avoid downloading them again for the second install. What are the options available ? What I was thinking is install without a net mirror, and then copy over the sources.list and the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to the new machine and then run apt-get update and upgrade. The second machine is at my clinic and I cannot afford to mess with it too much. It's still running kubuntu 8.04 and is not much trouble but I'd rather run one distro on both my main machines. thank you, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K R Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. My family history begins with me, but yours ends with you. -- Iphicrates.

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dealing with flamers
by Suhit Kelkar 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

Many times flamers (we know who you are) think nothing of wasting public resources, others' time, and polluting public forums with things best not said. Since their statements are not strictly on the foul side of the moderation guidelines, IMO, they cannot be blocked from the list. In any case that's a dangerous trend. So what do you and I do? Do we put up with their tasteless emails, do we allow them to spread their ill cheer to us across the pipes? There is still something we can do. It's called cold treatment. Flamers are usually after recognition and attention. (Begin fictionalised quote) "I'm important! I can string a sentence together! I've been ignored all my life! YOU CAN'T IGNORE ME NO MORE! I CAN WIN TOO! YES I CAN! NO, REALLY! Here-- no, don't look away! Hey, LOOK AT ME! I have my worth, really! If you won't admire me, I'll FLAME YOU! I'm cool! I'm not worthless, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not! LOOOOOOK AT ME, WOOOOOAAAAAAH!" (End fictional quote) Flamers usually self-destruct if we give them the cold treatment. This is well-known, though it takes time. Even hardened prisoners usually come quiet at the prospect of solitary confinement. These flamers aren't evil. Let us isolate them. Let them shout their inanities to silence. They need a captive audience. But we refuse to be captive. Let us deny them the attention they crave, and watch them shrivel and shrink away. All we need is to stick to it.

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Best leave management system.
by Sachin 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

Hi, Can anybody point to me *free* good leave management system where employees can submit leave, get approved or declined on linux. 1. Get info on no of days leave taken 2. Leaves remaining. 3. Payslip details. etc Came across OrangeHRM but was not happy with that. Linux network gurus: Any suggestions ? --Sachin Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Go to http://in.yahoo.com/

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Economic Times - there is no open source virtualization solution
by Arun Khan 20 Mar '09

20 Mar '09

The article is dated 13/Mar/09 out of Chennai. Per Mr. Sinha, CTO Times Business Solutions, there is no open source virtualization solution. <quote> However, companies looking at resource optimization holistically are also keen on virtualisation, for implementing which, there is no open source software. “However, virtualized hardware supports open source applications easily,” </quote> Read more at: <http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Internet_/Web_based_companies_…> You will also come to know that MySQL has become MySequel ... Please send your comments to the Editor ET (editet(a)timesgroup.com) requesting him/her to check facts before putting it on the web site. Also, submit your view under the "comments" section of the article. -- Arun Khan

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use of expletives on the FOSS list
by Suhit Kelkar 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

I do not know the persons in a recent flamewar, one of whom called the other an 'asshole' and the other, who apparently because of extreme vituperativeness in another flamewar has been blocked from the list. So, purely because of the use of the expletive, I also vote in favour of expelling the member who used it from the linuxers list. No matter who you are, no matter how powerful you are in the little Indian FOSS frogpond, you cannot get away with something like this or, can you? Guess that depends on the forum. And even usually dormant members do no like to get cusswords in their mailbox. If others too believe in the one person one vote principle, they should vote in this matter. If expletives are allowed today, tomorrow the atmosphere of the list could end up poisoned. Suhit Kelkar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 36
by Ashok Sinha 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

A Acer Aspire One is 17300 at lamington rd. I agree on the poorman bit. The only way the poor can have access to computer is free computer (cybercafes) in slum areas. Laptops are a long way from the poor. > > A handheld is more expensive than a cell phone. > If you are talking of eepcs LG is Rs.17500 afaik. > > Wonder what poorman would afford that. > > What exactly do you have in mind? > > > -- > Rgds > JTD > > > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > -- Ashok Sinha

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Using Clive to convert youtube videos to audio mp3
by Rony 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hello, After attending Rajeev's video conferencing demo at Directi, I was inspired to try out new ways to use clive. Clive is a utility to download youtube videos and convert them using ffmpeg to mp4 videos to play in the popular players. The simple way to use clive is 'clive video_url' in the terminal. This results in an mp4 video getting stored in the current directory in which clive is run. However I wanted to convert the live videos to audio mp3 only. On the net there is no mention of how to use clive to do it. The man page of clive has one option '-w' to automatically write a config file which can then be edited. Run 'clive -w' to create this file. The file is created in your home directory under .clive/config. Now edit this config file and make 2 changes. 1) ## Path to the ffmpeg program (e.g. "/usr/local/bin/ffmpeg -y -i %i %o") path_ffmpeg="/usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -i %i %o" Uncomment the path_ffmpeg line to tell clive about the location of ffmpeg ( This is important ) 2) ## Uncomment to re-encode to FORMAT ("mpg", "avi", ..) ## Requires also path_ffmpeg reencode_format="mp3" Uncomment the reencode line and add mp3 in the "" quotes. This was a blind shot that worked. Clive is mainly a video utility. Save the file and now simply run 'clive video_url' and you first get the video.mp4 file. As soon as it is downloaded clive shows a message that it is converting it to video.mp4.mp3 Thats all. Your mp3 is ready to rock. As I had earlier downoaded only mp4 videos, I was looking for a way to use ffmpeg to convert them to mp3. From the man page options the following command was assembled using trial and error and it works. 'ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -acodec mp3 -ab 160k video.mp3' The -i specifies the input file, -acodec specifies the audio output codec and -ab sets the audio bit rate in bits/sec. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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External Proxy usage on squid.
by Sachin 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hi, We have a squid server running which looks into user access. Now there are users who would use a webproxy or a external proxy to bypass this restriction. Is there a way to stop them. One rule is to figure out all the proxy sites and address and feed them to blocked sites but that process doesn't look good and easy manageable. Any suggestions ? --Sachin Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/

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[***** SPAM 3.2 *****] Faraz S has sent you a private message
by Faraz S 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

[1]FanIQ Faraz S has sent you a private message [2]Click to read message [3]Read private message Please read it or Faraz will think you ignored this :( This message has been forwarded at the request of [4]Faraz.Shahbazker(a)gmail.com. To block all emails from FanIQ, please [5]click here. FanIQ is located at 604 mission St, Suite 600, San Francisco, CA 94105, USA. References 1. http://FanIQ.com/user/FarazShahbazker/connect/200223894 2. http://FanIQ.com/user/FarazShahbazker/connect/200223894 3. http://FanIQ.com/user/FarazShahbazker/connect/200223894 4. mailto:Faraz.Shahbazker@gmail.com 5. http://www.faniq.com/unsubscribe.php?invite_id=200223894&stkn=a793fbd03bc29…

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[Hardware] How much is too much?
by Rony 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hello, I am curious to know how many client machines can the MTNL triband routers practically support in a LAN in order to give decent internet connectivity to all? There is a LAN network where there are around 7 machines using static ips (not LInux) and the triband router is the gateway machine also attached to the LAN. When connected directly to a machine the internet connectivity is good but when all machines are up internet takes a long time to resolve and speeds are in bursts. When it keeps searching for the web page or there is no connectivity, one cannot even log into the router. Pinging the router is fine. The router too has been replaced by MTNL. The entire setup is spread across 4 floors. Initially the LAN wiring was suspected but the crimping of the router cable was done again and otherwise, internal file sharing works perfectly. I am suspecting that the router gets overloaded trying to NAT so many requests, given its tiny architecture. Should I install a separate router to this LAN? Are the separate routers designed to handle large NAT traffic? I want to avoid holding up one machine for internet sharing. Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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[OT] Reliable and cheap linux hosting solution
by Anand Saha 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Guys, Would like to get your suggestions and recommendations for reliable and cheap linux hosting solutions. The site I am planning to host would not be a very high traffic site, moderate traffic. May be a couple of Gigs of data transfer per month (will have photo gallery), and will need around a Gig of disk space for the time being. -- God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

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Login page of HDFCSec not opening
by Sarfaraz Kazi 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hi! For the past few days, I'm not being able to access the login page of my online stock trading website which is www.hdfcsec.com The login page url is https://trade.hdfcsec.com When I click on the login button on the main site, the login page tries to open but the status bar keeps showing "Connected to trade.hdfcsec.com..." indefinitely but the page does not loads up. I'm running Firefox 2.0.0.17 under Ubuntu 7.04 (feisty fawn) on my laptop and Firefox 3 under Fedora Core 10 on my desktop. Both machines are connected to the internet through bsnl dataone broadband connection and I'm using Netgear DG834G adsl modem-cum-router in dhcp mode. The desktop is connected through ethernet and the laptop connects on wireless. I tried accessing the page from Firefox/IE runnning under Vista on my laptop but I'm facing the same problem there as well. I tried accessing the login page from one of my friend's machine who's got the same broadband connection but a different modem (huawei smartx882 connected via ethernet with static ip setup) with ubuntu 8.04 installed on his machine and the page opens just fine at his place using Firefox/Opera. What could be going wrong at my end? Please help. Regards, Sarfaraz

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[***** SPAM 2.5 *****] Faraz S has sent you a private message
by Faraz S 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

[1]FanIQ Faraz S has sent you a private message [2]Click to read message [3]Read private message Please read it or Faraz will think you ignored this :( This message has been forwarded at the request of [4]Faraz.Shahbazker(a)gmail.com. To block all emails from FanIQ, please [5]click here. FanIQ is located at 604 mission St, Suite 600, San Francisco, CA 94105, USA. References 1. http://FanIQ.com/user/FarazShahbazker/connect/200223892 2. http://FanIQ.com/user/FarazShahbazker/connect/200223892 3. http://FanIQ.com/user/FarazShahbazker/connect/200223892 4. mailto:Faraz.Shahbazker@gmail.com 5. http://www.faniq.com/unsubscribe.php?invite_id=200223892&stkn=f7c034a88aa81…

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Approaches of Kundra : towards commercial technology, opensource and egovernance etc.
by jitendra 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Vivek Kundra: The Alpha CTO By ctovision <http://ctovision.com/> on February 3, 2009 9:27 PM | 3 Comments<http://www.ctovision.com/2009/02/vivek-kundra-the-alpha-cto.html#comments> | 0 TrackBacks<http://www.ctovision.com/2009/02/vivek-kundra-the-alpha-cto.html#trackbacks> [image: Vivek_Kundra.jpg]Every CTO I know has heard of Vivek Kundra, CTO of the District of Columbia. We have all been following his accomplishments in transforming the technology program in DC and have watched in excitement as more and more capabilities have been rolled out to serve the city and its citizens. We have followed reports of bold moves he put in place to ensure technology programs deliver. We have read about his new approaches to technology portfolio management and watched as he discussed the leap ahead he delivered to his enterprise by his audacious, courageous use of Google Apps and other cloud-based solutions. If you are not one of those familiar with Vivek, here is a short bio: VivekKundra is the CTO for the District of Columbia where he leads an organization of over 600 staff that provides technology services and leadership for 86 agencies, 38,000 employees, residents, businesses, and 14 million annual visitors. He brings to the role of CTO a diverse record that combines technology and public policy experience in government, private industry, and academia. Previously, Vivek served as Assistant Secretary of Commerce and Technology for the Commonwealth of Virginia, the first dual cabinet role in the state's history. In the private sector, Vivek led technology companies serving national and international customers. Earlier he served as Director of Infrastructure Technology for Arlington, Virginia. He also taught classes on emerging and disruptive technologies at the University of Maryland. Since Vivek became District CTO, he has been honored with major IT awards. In 2008, the MIT Sloan CIO Symposium recognized him among outstanding IT innovators. In addition, InfoWorld Magazine named Vivekamong its "CTO 25"<http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/06/02/23FE-cto25-kundra_1.html> . I recently saw Vivek at a meeting of the Washington Area CTO Roundtable<http://www.chieftechnologyofficer.org/>, an informal collective of area CTOs led by Yuvi Kochar, CTO of the Washington Post Company. Before the meeting we chatted about mashup technologies (including his Apps for Democrac<http://www.appsfordemocracy.org/>y contest and also JackBe <http://jackbe.com/>). During the meeting Vivekdiscussed several aspects of his innovative efforts to transform the District's information technology infrastructure. A point that struck me was his leadership through principles. Three key ones he articulated were: 1) Leveraging commercial technology, 2) Driving transparency, and 3) Rethinking notions of IT governance. Vivek and I just finished a phone call where we discussed these and other items in more detail. Here is a bit more on his approach. *1) Leveraging commercial technology:* Commercial radios and cell phones allowed a rapid enhancement of the tactical communications infrastructure of the DC workforce, including the police workforce. Police squad cars are also now equipped with commercial, but toughened, laptops. Commercial web technology has been leveraged in ways that leaped ahead of old clunky office automation and also enable rapid development and mashups. *2) Driving transparency and engaging citizens: * Technology impediments to information access and information sharing were eliminated in ways that enable citizens to see how government decisions are being made. Data was also exposed in ways that enabled mashups and agile programing/development. Examples include DCs digital public square <http://dps.dc.gov/> and Apps for Democracy efforts. *3) Rethinking notions of IT governance:* Totally new, innovative ways to manage IT portfolios were created and used to ensure all stakeholders could evaluate the technology program and better make informed decisions on when to terminate programs and where to invest more money. Chief among these innovations was an approach to portfolio management that replicates a stock market trading floor. More important, however is the relentless focus on performance and innovation to support performance. Beside rethinking these notions of governance Vivek also took measures to smartly watch/reduce/reprioritize IT costs. I asked Vivek for thoughts that might be relevant to technologists who have set their sites on careers where they can deliver results. Many of us would like to follow in his footsteps. I wondered, if there is a particular computer programing language we should all be learning now? Should we be diving into Python? That's hot now. And what about databases? MySQL and Hadoop are all the rage. The thoughts I got back from Vivek were incredibly insightful and far more relevant than the simplistic question I asked. V: Technology is important, and we do need to know technology. But in these very exciting times where Moore's law pushes us all forward it is actually more important to be able to quickly learn new technology rather than focus on one and only one. This is the beauty of the new world of technology. There is always something to learn. We should also always remember that the reason to learn is the mission. To an enterprise CTO, technology by itself is worthless. Technology only has value if it addresses business problems and drives business success. Therefore technologists must have an ability to translate between the worlds of mission needs and technology and need an ability to rapidly learn and deeply understand both. I asked Vivek for his intention for sharing his models and methods, since they have clearly delivered success in DC. He is doing quite a bit there so all of us who would like more info have plenty of ways to learn more: V: The DC CTO site at http://octo.dc.gov provides links to many of the ongoing activities of the office and for those who would like more on the models that produce the results we link to policies, guidelines and procedures. We also provide information on how our governance process works. But additionally we host visits to our office by interested parties and have begun blogging about them. In another effort we hope will help move the models forward we are pressing ahead with plans to turn our stock market approach to portfolio management into an open model and will open source the code that makes it work, which should help drive more innovation there. Speaking of innovation, Vivek seems to have found a way to accelerate innovation, which is something all CTOs are interested in doing. I asked him for his thoughts on where to look for innovation. Another interesting reply: V: You can look for innovation many places, but remembering that necessity is the mother of invention you should keep an eye open for places that innovate because they really need to. I always keep an eye on the developing world and am so incredibly amazed at the tech innovation there. Enterprise IT does not mean that every program and project must be delivered with huge budgets and huge staffs and the incredible innovations coming out of the developing world prove that time and time again. I'm excited and enthused about developments like cell phone voting in Estonia, electronic census that works in Chili, fishing villages around the world using instant direct data to plan movement. Innovation occurs many places, but some of the greatest lessons for innovation are coming from the developing world. I asked Vivek about how to find balance between setting standards and enabling innovation: V: Standards are important, but if a standard gets in the way of innovation kill it. Use standards that enable innovation. This is the role of the CTO. Vivek also offered thoughts on social networks. V: In seeking ways to make your cycles of innovation move faster, never underestimate the power of social networking tools and the networks you can build with them. Facebook is the example most talked about but there are many others including networks built around ecommerce like eBay and Amazon. I believe we should not only embrace them to enable the power of social networking but to help us leverage, in a large way, the IT infrastructure of these platforms. The new generations today are making maximum use of these platforms and I view this as a very optimistic point. As for me, I view the results of Vivek Kundra and his models as optimistic points. The great thing about being a CTO is the learning never stops in this field and Vivek is a great teacher we should all be learning from. For more on Vivek and the way hew views technology, including some of his inputs to the Obama adminstration, see: http://www.ctovision.com/2009/01/federal-government-technology-directions-a… -- jitendra

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linuxuser digest
by ambika divya 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hi all , I have been getting Linux user digests volumes . Can anyone tell me , What is this ? And how it is helpful for us ? Can i request something there? Thanks . -- ambika.................... visit my website and celebrate an ancient art http://ambika.web.officelive.com/default.htm visit my blog www.kathakguru.blogspot.com http://www.careerhelpforu.blogspot.com/

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Interactive map of Linux kernel
by Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

For those who wants to dive in the Linux Kernel Source! http://www.makelinux.net/kernel_map With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/

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BJP endorses key sections of the FOSS manifesto
by Venkatesh Hariharan 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

Dear Friends, Key sections of the FOSS manifesto (Point # 1 on FOSS in education, # 4 on open standards, #5 on encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages), have been strongly articulated in the BJP's IT vision document that was unveiled today by BJP's prime ministerial candidate, Shri LK Advani. The 40 page vision document is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/images/stories/it-vision.pdf The press release is at: http://www.lkadvani.in/eng/content/view/799/281/ The FOSS Manifesto is at: http://www.public-software.in/FOSS-manifesto (have you signed it yet?) I am also enclosing my blog on this subject: Venky ===== http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/03/bjps-it-vision-supports-open-source-and… Saturday, March 14, 2009 BJP's IT Vision supports open source and open standards The BJP, the largest opposition in India has released an IT Vision document that endorses open source and open standards. Many of the points mentioned in the FOSS Manifesto for India that we put up online last week have been incorporated in this document. This document was unveiled by none other than Shri. LK Advani, the BJP's candidate for Prime Minister. I did a quick read of the 40 page document and am impressed with how thorough and comprehensive it is. As a long time supporter of free and open source software, I am delighted to see a major Indian political party endorse it. However, I am even more delighted to see that this endorsement is rooted in a comprehensive vision for India's development. A big chunk of the credit for this document should go to Shri. Sudheendra Kulkarni (an alumnus of IIT Bombay) and Shri Prodyut Bora (an alumnus of IIM Ahmedabad). Shri Kulkarni was advisor to Shri Atal Behari Vajpayee when Vajpayee was prime Minister of India and Shri Bora is Head of the IT Cell of the BJP. I was happy to see that the Digital Colonization theme that my friend, Jaijit Bhattacharya of Sun talks about has been incorporated in this document. Apart from the FOSS Manifesto, some of my key passions on open standards (that we don't pay for standards like weights and measures in the physical world, so why should we pay for standards in the digital world?) have been reflected. Also, as a co-founder of IndLinux.org which we started in 2000 in an attempt to bridge the digital divide, I am happy to see that the BJP has promised to create a National Mission for Indian Language Computing. The CPI(M), another national party in India has always been a strong supporter of our stand on open source, open standards and our fight against software patents. We are hopeful that other political parties will also take cognizance of the FOSS Manifesto and incorporate the same into their IT plans for India. With the country scheduled to go to polls next month, we now have a broad consensus emerging around the use of open source and open standards. This is great news for all of us who believe in free and open source software!

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Scanners under linux
by Nachiketa Sadhu 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi, We are trying to put up a list of low cost scanners for our Institute users. All the scanners lists available on the Internet is either too old or are yet to be available in the Indian market. I would be grateful to the list members if they can suggest some scanners or multifunction devices available locally and working under Linux. Thanks and regards. sadhu

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Commercial.Hurry up the Sunrise period for D-CAP (Digium Certified Asterisk Professional) Certification in India on 15th March 2009.
by Hariharan C Iyer 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi, Hurry up the Sunrise period for D-CAP (Digium Certified Asterisk Professional) Certification in India on 15th March 2009. Even if you register on 16th March 2009, the discount of 50% off will not be applicable. Please hurry up to register yourself before 15th March 2009 to avail the offer of 50%($1500 instead of $3000) discount on D-CAP training. Enterux solutions is an authorized Digium training partner for D-CAP (Digium Certified Asterisk Professional) Certification in India. The Digium-Certified Asterisk Professional (dCAP) certification is a verification of your knowledge of Asterisk. The certification covers a specific released, stable version of Asterisk. The program is offered at the end of the Asterisk Bootcamp and the Asterisk Advanced training course. The dCAP test consists of a 150 question written exam concerning Asterisk and Asterisk-related technology, and a hands-on practical lab exam in which you are asked to configure a PBX according to a given specification.. For more information about training visit http://www.entvoice.com/training/ <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eentvoice%2Ecom%2Ftr aining%2F&urlhash=oWKp&_t=disc_detail_link> To See the course outlook: http://www.entvoice.com/training/agenda.php <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eentvoice%2Ecom%2Ftr aining%2Fagenda%2Ephp&urlhash=XILQ&_t=disc_detail_link> Enterux solutions is going to launch the first Asterisk Certification Program at Mumbai from 13th of April. Register today to get exciting 50% discount ($1500 only) till 15th Mar. Limited seats... after 15th March the same will be at $3000......so rush your application along with full payment before 15th of March to avail the discount. For registration visit; http://www.entvoice.com/training/signup.php <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eentvoice%2Ecom%2Ftr aining%2Fsignup%2Ephp&urlhash=Jvs0&_t=disc_detail_link> With Best Regards Hariharan C Iyer Business Development Manager Enterux Solutions Private Limited. (Digium Authorised Training Partners) hari@ enterux.com <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fenterux%2Ecom&urlhash=h8g K&_t=disc_detail_link> www.enterux.com <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eenterux%2Ecom&urlha sh=YvyJ&_t=disc_detail_link> +91-9833572938/+91-2267339716 Gtalk:- chiyer2004@ gmail.com <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgmail%2Ecom&urlhash=Hr7N& _t=disc_detail_link> YM:- chiyer2004@ yahoo.com <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyahoo%2Ecom&urlhash=xFmZ& _t=disc_detail_link> Skype:- chiyer1984 Hotmail:- chiyer1984@ hotmail.com <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhotmail%2Ecom&urlhash=7Dz 4&_t=disc_detail_link> MTNL- Training Facility Partner URL: http://www.enterux.com/ <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eenterux%2Ecom%2F&ur lhash=-2k3&_t=disc_detail_link>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] DHCP issues on network
by Sachin 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi, Sorry for not posting the full informations. 1. The DHCP server is running on rhel-4. 2. What I meant by machine goin offline was that they are off the network without an ip showing IP conflict. Thank you all for the suggestions. Would try pulling down the lease time and increasing the subnet range. Sachin Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Fwd: XO Laptop SPEAKS about "OLPC Mumbai Group First Meet-14th March, '09" (Kindly ignore this mail if member of OLPC India Google Group)
by Anurag 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- From: amit gogna <amitg(a)laptop.org> To: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:50:14 +0530 Subject: XO Laptop SPEAKS about "OLPC Mumbai Group First Meet-14th March,'09" (Kindly ignore this mail if member of OLPC India Google Group) Hi All, My name is XO Laptop. I'm planning to join a group of people meeting on 14th March,2009 to discuss about my development and my family - OLPC. The details are on the wiki :- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Mumbai. Somethings about me :- a) I run a very unique OS called SUGAR which is totally focussed on Education (www.sugarlabs.org) b) No matter what your interest is you can be my friend and part of my family OLPC. c) I'm still very young and need to gain some muscle in terms of building content, developing new activities , speaking native languages etc. d) Also you see i've got the Looks, i'm Strong , i'm very Friendly and willing to change according to your needs... and above all kids love me. .... and much more.... Now , the OLPC Group in Pune (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Pune) already had a similar session in Pune called XO Getting Started Camp which was conducted by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay from The Fedora Project. ( It was simply an amazing session :-) ) The details are on the wiki :- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started_XO_Pune_Camp. So if you want to know more about me and OLPC family and be my friend and work with me... here is your chance .. All you need to do is enter your name under attendees section on OLPC Mumbai wiki page. (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Mumbai) and be there. Cheers, XO OLPC India Google Group :- http://groups.google.com/group/olpc-india -- http://web.gnuer.org/

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DHCP issues on network.
by Sachin 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

Hi, Linux DHCP issues are getting a problem. I have around 100 machines on the network where most of them are windows and some linux. If a client goes offline and then comes back most of the time there is a IP conflict.. I have never faced this issue on my home network though. Lately we are doing a static ip with each client to avoid this. Does anybody here faced this issue. And what could be the reason.. Any suggestions ? -- Sac Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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XO Laptop SPEAKS about "OLPC Mumbai Group First Meet - 14th March, 2009"
by amit gogna 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

Hi All, [image: http://api.ning.com/files/mIvD04RvlgCq1sHE8ky8WHQIFc03BXRaCbWcRswoWNEUzKCLK…] My name is XO Laptop. I'm planning to be join a group of people meeting on 14th March,2009 to discuss about my development and my family - OLPC. The details are on the wiki :- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Mumbai. Now so far Linux community is concerned there is lot you can learn and contribute to my project OLPC in terms of a) I run a very unique OS called SUGAR which is totally focussed on Education (www.sugarlabs.org) b) Now there is lot of Development on Various Activities of SUGAR that needs to done . They all use Python. c) Also I need to speak all the native languages... for people to understand me ....... so lot of localization work is pending.... ... and much more.... The OLPC Group in Pune (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Pune) already had a similar session in Pune called XO Getting Started Camp which was conducted by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay from The Fedora Project. ( It was simpky an amazing session :-) ) The details are on the wiki :- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Getting_Started_XO_Pune_Camp. Last but not the least everyone is excited to see me and work with me... You see i've got the Looks, i'm Strong , i'm very Friendly and willing to change according to your needs... and above all all kids love me. So hope to see you there. If you plan to attend please enter your name under attendees section on wiki page. Cheers, XO OLPC India Google Group :- http://groups.google.com/group/olpc-india

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How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?
by Aasif Shaikh 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

Hi All, I am new to GNU/Linux and Open Source world. I had seen lots of open source stable projects on internet, which anybody can download, modify and sell to anybody. Now the question arises; if a *PERSON A* develops a stable and good project as an Open Source and upload it over the internet and the *PERSON B* from some other country downloads and modify it with his name as an author (basically he is stealing someone's code) and sell it to some company to make money out of it. So how this *PERSON A* is going to be benefited. Please excuse me if I am wrong in asking this question. Best Regards, Aasif Shaikh.

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Serial mouse not working under FC10
by Sarfaraz Kazi 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Hi! I recently installed FC10 on my desktop PC. Everything's running fine expect for my logitech 3-button serial mouse which is not getting recognised under FC10. In earlier versions, it used to work by manually editing the xorg.conf file as below: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection However, in FC10 there is no xorg.conf file by default. So, as per instructions that I found on the net, I created xorg.conf file by giving the below command: Xorg -configure :1 and manually edited the mouse section accordingly. But still no luck. Then I tried using the system-config-display utility but there is no mouse section in it. Uncle Google also has thrown his hands up! Please help! Regards, Sarfaraz

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Fwd: OLPC Mumbai Group - First Meet - Getting Started
by Sameer Verma 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

FYI. Some of you may be interested in joining/attending OLPC-Mumbai's first meeting on March 14. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: amit gogna <amit.gognaa(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 3:34 AM Subject: OLPC Mumbai Group - First Meet - Getting Started To: olpc-india(a)googlegroups.com Dear All, So here we are .. time to get started ....with our very own city - MUMBAI :-) I just finished creating - first version - of OLPC Mumbai wiki - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Mumbai (Needs lot of work) Planning to have the our first meet on 14th March, 2009. If you plan to attend the meeting kindly enter your name under attendees section. Cheers, Amit -- Don't think you are, know you are" --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OLPC India" group. To post to this group, send email to olpc-india(a)googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to olpc-india+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/olpc-india?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

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[Commercial] Senior Positions at Efficient Frontier, Chennai. (8+yrs)
by Gourav Shah 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Efficient Frontier (www.efrontier.com <http://www.efrontier.com>) , the leader in Search Engine Marketing (SEM), is headqurted in Silicon Valley, has developement center in India and offices across the world. We, at EF, primarily use technologies which come from the world of Free/Open Source Software eg. opensuse linux, python, postgres etc. We are currently looking for following senior positions for chennai office to be filled imemdiately. 1. Senior Director of Engineering 2. Senior QA Director/Manger 3. Director Product Management Senior Engineering Director Location: Chennai Job Description As a Senior Director of Engineering, you will help grow and manage the engineering team in Chennai.You will be responsible for rapidly building up the team that will implement new product features from design through deployment and provide sustaining support for the current product. You will develop and enforce processes required for production monitoring, sustenance, and joint product development with the US team; and provide the needed technical leadership to ensure that all activities are well coordinated with the appropriate teams in India and US. You will work closely with the US teams including the engineering and release management functions to deliver quality software in a fast paced environment. The Senior Director of Engineering will have the following primary responsibilities: 1.Manage and Retain development and QA team of 20+ in India 2.Work with counter parts in USA to deliver quality products. 3.Implement and following agile methodologies and processes. 4.Guide and mentor engineers to provide career growth in the company. 5.Become Integral part of management team for product development across US and India. 6.Participate in improving release management process. 7.Measure and improve overall through put of software development. Required experience and knowledge 1.12+ years of software development experience, including 5+ years in a management role. 2.Proven track record of hiring and building product engineering teams, and shipping successful software products to market. 3.Must have worked jointly with teams in the US to build products and provide support. 4.4+ years in web applications using application servers or Tomcat. 5.Meaningful experience in as many of the following: C, C++, Python, Oracle, Postgres, GWT, and Linux. 6.Must be able to establish quickly with smart engineers with technical savvy. 7.Work experience in both India and the U.S. 8.BS <http://8.BS> in Computer Science or related engineering degree from a reputed institution. Senior QA Director/Manger Location: Chennai Job Description QA Director/Manager will be responsible for rapidly building up the team that will implement new product features from design through deployment and provide sustaining support for the current product. You will develop and enforce processes required for production monitoring, sustenance, and joint product development with the US team; and provide the needed technical leadership to ensure that all activities are well coordinated with the appropriate teams in India and US. You will work closely with the US teams including the engineering and release management functions to deliver quality software in a fast paced environment. The Senior Manger/Director of QA will have the following primary responsibilities: 1.Primary responsibility is to be the customer’s voice in Engineering and own the quality of Efficient Frontier's products. 2.Drive a QA strategy to support rapid releases with high quality. 3.Develop and execute a comprehensive test automation strategy. 4.Track effectiveness and efficiency through previously agreed upon and objective metrics. 5.Ensure the success of major, minor, and hot fix (patch) releases. You will own the overall quality of Efficient Frontier's products from the front-end to the back-end and from product inception to product deployment and support. The success measurement will be customer satisfaction. Therefore, customer advocacy in this role is a must. 6.As a leader, you will also mentor QA leads and engineers in best practices, processes and testing techniques. 7.This position is also strategic. We are looking for someone that can take our current team and grow it into a world-class QA organization with state-of-the-art testing abilities and processes. 8.Work closely with all major stakeholders: Product Management, IT, Engineering, and Customer Support. Required experience and knowledge 1.8+ years of Internet/E-commerce/Web testing experience. 2.5+ years in a QA management role. 3.Detail-oriented with a keen eye that matches that of a customer's expectations. 4.Thorough understanding of SDLC and major software development methodologies and processes. 5.Ability to assess risks and bring closure to multiple items in a release. 6.Ability to balance competing projects and features across multiple resources. 7.Must have past experiences in bringing an automation framework or project from conception to full-time usage with an outlook on strategy and cost-benefit analysis. 8.Experience with teams in multiple time zones. 9.Past experience with triaging customer support issues and running a customer-oriented team is a plus. 10.Must have excellent negotiation and diplomatic skills. 11.Must have excellent communication and organizational skills. 12.Ability to view a release in terms of objectives and high-level business goals. 13.Bachelor's degree in CS or Information Technology or related field. Director Product Management Location: Chennai Job Description The Director Product Management is responsible for the product planning and execution throughout the lifecycle of assigned product(s), including: gathering and prioritizing product and customer requirements, defining the product direction/roadmap, and working closely with engineering, QA, sales, client services and marketing and to ensure timely and effective product development releases and launches. The Director Product Management will have the following primary responsibilities: 1.Work with VP, Product Management to define the product strategy, roadmap, and release prioritization for assigned product areas 2.Deliver quality MRDs, PRDs, and functional specifications 3.Lead cross functional teams to track status, resolve issues, and coordinate communication during the product development process 4.Work closely with engineering and QA teams to ensure product development is delivered to spec. 5.Run beta and pilot programs with early-stage products and prototypes as assigned 6.Support sales and client services in client presentations and industry communications as required 7.Work with US based Product Management team to conduct ongoing competitive analysis and ensure that assigned products maintain market leading features and functionality 8.Evangelize product benefits and competitive advantages to internal users and clients Required experience and knowledge 1.8+ years experience in Product or Program Management 2.Expert knowledge of online advertising markets and technologies including Search Engine marketing, Display Ad serving, and/or Web Analytics 3.Bachelor's degree (MBA preferred) , with technical emphasis 4.Excellent written and verbal communication skills 5.Hands on approach to product development 6.Demonstrated success defining and launching excellent products 7.Proven ability to coordinate and successfully influence cross-functional teams to deliver on schedule 8.Previous experience working in conjunction with US based Product development teams 9.Previous experience managing other product managers while maintaining his own individual product management responsibilities Interested candidates, please contact me off the list. Thanks Gourav Shah

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add web site in Hall of shame
by yogesh kunjir 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Hi Pls some one add this site to hall of shame (if it is not already there) link is http://mu.ac.in/ yaa mumbai university it is written there "Site best viewed in Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0+ in 1024x768 resolution" and also look at site in Firefox it look horrible so if possible add it in hall of shame -- sincerely, योगेश i am more +ve than just a A+ve read me @ http://technology-4-you.blogspot.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How does Open Source guys earn there bread and butter?
by Prashant Verma 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

At 08:18 AM 3/10/2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Mitul Limbani <mitul(a)enterux.com> wrote: > > GPL doesn't restrict someone to sell a gpl software to others, just > > that the buyer is not aware of the 4 freedoms he is entitled with. > > > >As I understand, with GPL, all you need to do when you sell software >is to make the code of the software available to the buyer. In case of >some embedded products, the code is available as downloads from their >websites. The seller is in no way _required_ to publish his code >online just because he is selling GPLed software. He only has to make >the code available to the person he sold the software to. He could >even do it on paper if he wants to :) A minor correction: Just handing over the code is not enough.The seller has to make the code available to the buyer *under the terms of GPL*.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

>> Please go ahead and view the petition and endorse it. >> >> > > I'm sure I'm probably missing out on something but I could not see my > signature on the petition. So I went ahead and signed again. Either > ways, it is not showing up in the list. > > Mehul and Siddesh, sorry about that - there was some issue yesterday. The server was taking in the details but was not displaying it. However it is now displaying all the signatures including the signatures of the two of you. All - request you to please go ahead and sign the petition if you have not already done so . Thanks, Vinay. -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net http://itforchange.net http://india.is-watch.net/ http://is-watch.net

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A draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties
by Venkatesh Hariharan 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

A draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/02/draft-foss-manifesto-for-indian.html With elections approaching in April 2009, it was time to create a draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties. This is a first draft and I have written this keeping in mind that most Indian politicians would not be familiar with FOSS. Hence, the usage of simple language that anyone can understand. If you feel that any section here needs improvement, please let me know. Comments/suggestions welcome. venky ==== A draft FOSS manifesto for Indian political parties The Free and Open Source Software community in India calls upon political parties to make FOSS usage and promotion a central part of the IT, e-government and education plans in their election manifestos. FOSS is software which is liberally licensed to grant the right of users to study, change, and improve its design through the availability of its source code. The open, inclusive and participatory nature of FOSS is a natural fit for the vibrant traditions of Indian democracy. Since software is the foundation of the knowledge economy, India's IT infrastructure should be built on FOSS and not on closed, proprietary software systems. We believe that encouragement of FOSS will result in: * Development of the domestic IT industry * Creation of jobs * Encouragement of skills development and upgradation * Enable localization of software to Indian languages * Reduction of India's dependence on monopolistic proprietary software vendors * Encourage the usage of open standards * Bridging the digital divide * Rapid modernization and computerization of India's education system * Technology upgradation of India's Small and Medium Enterprises * Efficient usage of budget outlays for e-government * Faster technology development through Collaborative Innovation We call upon political parties in India to support the Indian FOSS community by: 1. Encouraging the use of FOSS in Indian education system. This will inculcate the virtues of collaboration, sharing and participation in children from a very young age and make computerization of schools affordable. 2. Eliminating proprietary software from the education syllabus and making the syllabus vendor-neutral, thus giving teachers and students the choice of software that suits their budgets and needs. 3. Using FOSS in e-government to the maximum possible extent and ensuring that government tenders are open and do not favor proprietary software vendors. All software developed with tax-payers money should be released under a FOSS license to encourage collaboration; and the sharing of code and best practices. 4. Mandating the usage of open standards that are free from royalties and vendor lock-in so that the interaction between the government and citizens happens in a free and open manner befitting a democracy. 5. Encouraging freely shareable, FOSS based knowledge repositories like Wikipedia in Indian languages. 6. Encouraging the usage of the collaborative model of FOSS in scientific research. Science thrives on collaboration and the sharing of knowledge. The current trend of privatizing knowledge leads to secrecy in science and reduces collaboration. We must use the FOSS model based on collaboration, community and shared ownership of knowledge to spark a renaissance of knowledge in India. 7. Eliminating software and business method patents that have lead to huge amounts of litigation in developed countries. Indian traditions have held that knowledge grows by sharing and diminishes when hoarded. Patents on software and business methods grant undue monopolies on ideas and prevent independent invention and the sharing of knowledge. India has one of the most youthful populations in the world and it is important that they have access to the tools with which the information society is built. The freedom to modify the source code, the ability to share knowledge and build communities make Free and Open Source Software the best, long-term model for India's development. We therefore urge all political parties to encourage the usage of FOSS for India's development.

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which method is more efficient to implement for any file editor?
by sachin puri 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi I am sachin Puri I am new linux user. I have following observation in case of vim editor and have some question regarding it so whole scenario is like given below . What I have done and observe Case 1 - I set all permissions (rwx) for owner on parent directory. (I am the owner.) $ ls -ld dir drwxrwxrwx 2 sachin sachin 4096 Mar 7 13:42 dir and has structhure like below /home/sachin/dir/text.text In this case when editing the file "text.text", vim creates a temporary swap file in that directory. When the file is saved, the swap file is deleted and the inode number of "text.text" changes (it is different from the inode number of the original file and also the swap file). Case 2 - Write permission is removed from parent directory $ ls -ld dir dr-xr-xr-x 2 sachin sachin 4096 Mar 7 13:42 dir In this case when editing the file "text.text", vim creates a temporary swap file in /var/tmp. After saving the file, its inode does not change. This means that in case 2, vim is updating the contents of the file in-place. I have found that OpenOffice.org also updates the contents in-place, irrespective of the parent directory permissions. I wish to know why does vim create a new file in case 1. Wouldn't it be a costly operation, especially in case of large files? In short, which method is more efficient to implement for any file editor? Please note that in all cases, all permissions are set on the file itself (i.e. text.text). I am just manipulating the permissions of the parent directory. thanks in advance

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 12
by Ashok Sinha 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Sincere thanks to the Linuxers out there who so promptly responded to my query regarding root passwd. especially Rony and Rajeev. Ashok Sinha

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] socks proxy for linux
by Raghu Prasad 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

> Does anyone knows this? For ANY linux system > >> Can anyone tell me, which is a good socks proxy in linux. >> I want it for Ubuntu Linux Many years back I had used Dante. For Ubuntu, I think you need to install package dante-server. http://www.inet.no/dante/ Raghu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] confirm 325b25fb0c72b7e939e410bc755667cae0dc9ed8
by Ashok Sinha 08 Mar '09

08 Mar '09

Dear All, I am new to linux and am using a Linpus Linux Lite which uses a desktop version. I was wanting to install AVG antivirus. Is it necessary? When I tried to install it it asked for the administrator password, which I dont have. I tried to use Terminal to install it but it wanted me to login as root. I couldnt as I did not have the password. I am using an acer aspire one notebk. Anybody can help. I am happy to use linux and dont want to switch back to windows. Thanks Ashok Sinha

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Wanted: volunteers to localise in Marathi
by Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरो नया] 08 Mar '09

08 Mar '09

Wanted: volunteers to localise in Marathi http://i18n.debian.net:8080/mr/ -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://twitter.com/fn On Facebook: http://www.new.facebook.com/people/Frederick-Noronha/502514643 "Why, I'd horse-whip you if I had a horse." - Groucho Marx

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socks proxy for linux
by sameer shinde 08 Mar '09

08 Mar '09

Hi All, Can anyone tell me, which is a good socks proxy in linux. I want it for Ubuntu Linux ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Reminder for tomorrow's LUG and Python meetups
by Mehul Ved 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

Hello, ILUG-BOM and MumPy are organising a meetup at Directi tommorow at 2 p.m. The meeting announcement can be found at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Current_events -- From: Ean Schuessler @novare.net The unrecognized minister of propaganda, E -- Debian, joking...

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[ANN] FOSS competency certification
by Kenneth Gonsalves 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

hi, NRC-FOSS announces FOSS competency certification. Details here: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/full/63/AN/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Installed Lenny on Acer Aspire One
by Rony Bill 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Hello, I installed Debian Lenny on the Acer Aspire One.Lenny is ideally suited for netbooks as it has a lighter foot print with good looks. A week ago I had already installed Lenny on my pen drive for testing. Lenny DVD has a superb boot menu that lets you choose your desktop without having to remember the exact syntax. (A minor error in the older method meant that instead of KDE, you end up with Gnome. I had selected KDE. Those who do not like KDE4.1 will love this older KDE. Lenny comes in a down to earth build yet good hardware support. Everything worked fine except wireless and thats where this site comes in handy. I used the mad-wifi drivers using the apptitude method given in the link. That is the fastest. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#head-0c033e1a554405a43cc9a4043e5f6c9d9… After that the system was restarted and Knetworkmanager was able to get me online. Gnome users please read about network-manager not working and instead the use of wicd. Otherwise everything isthe same as setting up Kubuntu in Acer Aspire One. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Netbooks may rob you of privacy
by Rony Bill 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Dear Sir, With reference to your article in HT on netbook security. The first impression one gets from it is that it is aimed at hitting the netbook sales. If the authors really had a proper understanding of operating systems and security issues related to them they would have never posted such an article. Neither the bigger notebooks nor the smaller netbooks come pre-installed with any firewalls or anti-virus software. The anti-virus that is pre-installed on some notebooks that have an operating system pre-installed is only a trial version which will expire anyway. Antivirus software slows down any system and the problem is not limited to netbooks only. By the way the netbook has a 1.6 GHz. processor and a 1 GB RAM and a 100+ GB hard disk, which is quite sufficient for a normal anti-virus software. I happen to use one with an anti-virus installed. What about the expensive business cell phones that are fully net enabled and are used to surf the web, check mails, blog and chat? Is there any scope for putting any of the standard antivirus software in them? The most important point missed out by the authors is that security issues arise from faulty operating systems that are breeding grounds for software viruses. Since these operating systems are closed and do not allow any security audit of their program code by outsiders, there is no way one can know their inherent flaws and predict as well as prevent future security problems. In order to overcome this limitation of closed code software, there are Free(dom) software operating systems that are openly audited by experts outside the core developer group and the general public. This enhances the immunity level of these operating systems to such an extent that they do not require any antivirus software. They come preloaded with security measures in various stages that prevent virus files from executing in the system or propagating to other computers on the network. The good news is that these Free(dom) operating systems can now be installed on the netbooks too and users can make full utilisation of the hardware resources for their own work. I sincerely hope HT will let its readers know more about these secure Free(dom) operating systems like Debian, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva etc. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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[OT] Dear Admins
by Dinesh Joshi 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Hello all, Remember me? If you're an admin you must be wondering how in the world did this guy get off moderation? It was simple. I was waiting and watching if some sense prevailed on your part but unfortunately not. Anyway, this email isn't to insult anybody. It is a polite reminder that please do not mess around just because you have been given the power here. It can be just as easily be taken away / circumvented :) I was unjustly shut up on this list for having my opinions. Some stranger insulted me and I stood up for myself. Thats all I did. I was referenced in several threads and I merely replied to them and I'm shut up which is incredibly stupid and has encroached on my rights as an individual. This is an open forum and you cannot shut me up. It is a violation of my freedom of speech and expression. If you shut me up then you have to shut everyone else up who referenced me. Other people too were involved in blatant name calling and acted as proxies. That was a low, unprofessional thing to do. I did not see any action being taken against them. I believe you've misused your power as admins or you've used them in ignorance which is pretty much the same thing. None of you actually followed the threads that I was attacked in or know what really happened. Mr.Dinesh Shah / linuxer-owners did not respond to my emails and no amount of reasoning showed you guys the irrationality of your decisions. I have been and admin & moderator on several forums. I've been in such situations. The reasonable thing to do is warn all members and put *all* of them on moderation. Singling one out of the many is wrong. If anybody should've been punished, it was the person who provoked the whole flame war. Lastly, to all who are / were / will be in a position of authority. Please DONT let that go to your head because your power is *not* absolute :) Kind regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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FYI VIVEK Kundra : CIO in US
by jitendra 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Kundra on Open Source ( http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/03/vivek-kundra-federal-cio-in-hi.html ) *VK:* I think you look at open source, as a technology, whether it's mediawiki, for example... with Wikipedia what we did in the District of Columbia was that we had a wikipedia solution that allowed every single employee to collaborate and have access to information. * I think there is also a place for specialized software, you look at the FAA or if you are looking at DHS, there are some mission critical systems that you can't apply an open source solution to.* We need to have a very pragmatic, balanced approach in terms of software. I would argue that, whether it is open source or proprietary software one of the biggest ticket items when it comes to information technology on that $71 billion dollars is the money the federal government spends on contracts and contracts that, frankly, some of them haven't performed very well and there have not been consequences. And, we need to become serious and tough on those contractors that are not going to deliver. Eliminating those contracts and making sure that we have consultants and contractors that are adding value to the federal government. -- jitendra

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Software Patents
by jtd 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Ref TOM TOM v/s M$. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090305203031867 This one affects everybody using FAT / LFN and will expand to affect everyone using ANY M$ file system. What is the story on the Indian Patent office's take on software patents. After all the noise they seem to be ominously silent. Did anyone attend CII –DIPP Nationwide Intellectual Property Rights -Awareness Campaign held on 3rd March in Mumbai. Btw my email to M. W. Dhumane dated 26/8/08 specifically pointing out some software patents (217179, 210794, 217913, 220214) issued by IPO has received no response. The letter also specifically asked them about the procedures they used to identify obviousness and prior art. -- Rgds JTD

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[OSI Tech Days 09] Last few Silver Passes left for registration
by Sayantan Pal 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Dear all, As a part of the Open Source India team, I'd like to thank you all for being a part of OSI Tech Days 2009 and registering for the event in large numbers. However, this email is a reminder to all those who still haven't gotten themselves registered for the event. As of writing this email, there are only 17 SILVER passes (free) left for the grabs. So, if you had missed our previous messages or had postponed registration, this is your time! The official page of registration is http://www.osidays.com/users/delegate09.php Other highlights of OSI Tech Days 2009 - * Free promotion booths for Indian LUGs at OSI Tech Days 2009 - http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=7 * Chennai Tweetup, March 12, Beer on the house! - http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=12 * 'Movers & Shakers' award with prizes worth 5 Grands! - http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=19 Shall be looking forward to meet you all at Chennai. Regards, Sayantan.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Dear Admins
by Prashant Verma 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

...snip... can we now move on??

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Trai guidelines
by Information Security 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

The following are the guidelines to be followed by the ISPs as per trai on urgent basis: - 1. Provide adequate information to subscribers regarding Internet/broadband services being offered and marketed as a good business practice. 2. Provide information regarding contention ratios (number of users competing for the same bandwidth) adopted for different services by service providers in their tariff plans submitted to TRAI, manual of practice, call centers and on their websites." 3. Publish contention ratio for different Internet/broadband services on their website quarterly to facilitate subscribers to take informed decision. 4. Ensure availability of minimum required bandwidth in their network according to maximum contention ratio suggested by TRAI for different services based on number of subscribers. Since guidelines are recommendations, and in this case, it means there aren't any deadlines to meet by the ISPs to start adhering to these guidelines. Moreover, it is mentioned in the guidelines issuance notification that "any regulatory burden in present economic environment of Internet sector may increase the cost of service provisioning and will adversely impact the growth of broadband. The Authority prefers least regulatory intervention while providing greater flexibility to service providers to ensure better quality of service to internet/broadband subscribers." Therefore, subscribers cannot expect ISPs to be in a hurry to enlighten subscribers with the nitty-gritty of why they cannot be assured better broadband services.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] connecting to gmail via imap over squid Hi All,
by Raghu Prasad 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

> I'm using squid3.0 as our proxy server to serve the internet users, > which is working fine. Now I want users to access IMAP(say gmail on imap) > over my proxy. Can anyone let me know, How do I do this? > Is there any way I can do it with squid? Is there any other way? > > So far what I've read on google is, as squid is an http proxy, > it only supports http/ftp protocol. not fully for even https. > Is there any other way to proxy remaining protocols like imap/imap4/pop3/smtp Even if you can do it via squid (somehow by using CONNECT method), it won't log IMAP level details. Your best option is to use an application proxy server like Delegate (http://www.delegate.org). It handles a lot of protocols. But I don't think it is _free_ software even though the sources are available and is being distributed freely. Raghu

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[x-post][OT]? Response to Misleading News Article - Netbook Security
by Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

H! I have posted a rebuttal about a misleading article about netbook security @ http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ The links to original articles are there in the post but I am including here as well. http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE52201120090303 http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=d1b8ded8-f7be-448… I am inviting you all to write to the authors of these article at http://reuters-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/reuters_en.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p… and htworld(a)hindustantimes.com With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ Blog-2: http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ Dick Cavett - "If your parents never had children, chances are... neither will you."

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Fwd: High Resolution video conferencing.
by Rajeev R. K. 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rajeev R. K. <rajeevrk(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] High Resolution video conferencing. To: Mehul Ved <mehul.n.ved(a)gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mehul Ved <mehul.n.ved(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Mehul Ved <mehul.n.ved(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> We will start with the demo on video conferencing from 2 p.m. We will >> have some time after this and can chip in one session if someone can >> come forward with one. > > Hi Rajeev, > Can you please confirm if you can hold this demo on Sunday at the LUG Meet. > With Regards, > Mehul Ved. > Hi Mehul, Sunday sounds dicey, as i happen to have a Server migration happening on saturday night, so it may spill over.... in case it does, i will have to be online to monitor it... The server is in the US, so as long as directi can ensure internet availability for me, i guess i can make it work. Infra that i can carry will include 1. 2 x Laptops with IEEE1394 firewire ports 2. 1 x Sony Camcorder with Firewire port + firewire cable 3. 1 x DLP Projector What is missing here is -- 1. 1 x Digital Camcorder with a IEEE1394/firewire/i.Link port with the cable needed to connect to a laptop(i.e mini connector firewire.) 2. 1 x Digital Projector If that missing piece can be organised, i guess we are on. Also, we will need 2 rooms that are provided with a wall/screen to project on, and connectivity between them... Regards R. K. Rajeev > > -- > > Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only > occurs there and then. >

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High Resolution video conferencing.
by Rony 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

Hello, There is an advt. of CISCO where a group of people from China and Some European country come face to face virtually on huge screens. Is this really possible or just trick photography? If possible, it would not only help in overseas conferencing but also in huge office complexes where one has to travel a long distance or even a few floors to get to the boss's cabin or some place else. The normal video conferencing has a very small screen where one cannot even move one's head or it would get out of the visible area. With high resolution videos, a huge life size image is possible and groups of people can talk to each other. It has a fantastic effect and looks really good. Keeping aside the cost and availability of net bandwidth, is this possible with Linux. If it is not very expensive, could we actually setup a prototype in HBCSE during our forthcoming GLUG meets over the months? A LAN cable should provide good bandwidth for intraoffice video conferencing. We can link up two classrooms or the lab and classroom. We already have a projector and a 17/19" LCD screen. I am sure this has good commercial potential too for big corporate offices. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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[X-Post] Linux Format free to download for 24 hours only
by Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

OK, it's time to rock: below you'll find high-res PDFs of Linux Format issue 116. That's the current, on-sale issue of the magazine. No DRM. No cost. No catches. You get everything. But there is one small proviso: it will be online for only 24 hours. At 23:59:59 GMT March 4th we'll be taking down this link. http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only Enjoy! With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ Blog-2: http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ Carl Sagan - "In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe."

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ILUG-BOM and MumPy Meet at Directi on Sunday 8th March 2009
by Mehul Ved 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

Hi, ILUG-BOM and MumPy are organising a meet this Sunday 8th March 2009. Venue: Directi, 330 Link-Way Estate, Above Greens hotel, Near Inorbit Mall, Link Road, Malad (W), Time: 14:00 to 18:00 hours IST Agenda: 1. Demo - High Resolution Video Conferencing 2. Python Workshop -- Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then.

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GLUG-BOM Meet Update
by Roshan 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

List, Mehul has recently added the upcoming meet's details on the wiki. Kindly RSVP to the following page on the wiki http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Upcoming_meet_RSVPs Thanks.

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OSI Tech Days 09 gives Chennai LUG a chance to showcase itself
by Sayantan Pal 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Hello, Here's a great chance for Mumbai LUG to promote itself. Open Source India: Tech Days '09 is offering a free booth for Mumbai LUG, during the sessions on 12th - 14th March, in Chennai Trade Center, WHY SHOULD YOU CARE ABOUT THE OFFER? * Promote your LUG and its work * Do demos through your booth * No charge for the booth * Non-commercial usage Do email back to me if you are interested. - Email: sayantan.pal(a)efyindia.com - Website: www.osidays.com - Registration Page: www.osidays.com/users/delegate09.php - Twitter handle: @LinuxForYou - Event Hash tag: #osi09 - FaceBook Event Page: www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=69855234672&ref=ts We plan to have booths for LUGs from Chennai, Pune, Kolkata and Delhi as well. Only one booth from one single city! Regards, Sayantan Pal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Which laptop offers best support for Linux ?
by Debarshi Ray 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

> Having said that, I would advise you _against_ buying a MacBook [2]. > > [2] http://debarshiray.multiply.com/journal/item/181/MacBook_DVDs_etc. > And how is this the Macbook's fault ? DVD region encoding is enforced > by all legally manufactured DVD players. Apple, OS X or Steve jobs has > nothing to do with it. Which means you have either never legally bought a DVD in recent times, or have not used a recently procured DVD player. If you had you would have seen how most non-Apple manufacturers don't implement hardware region encoding, and the LG and SONY players that I have seen with my own eyes and touched with my own hands are legally manufactured. > And FWIW, the stores that you buy your DVDs from, don't necessarily > pay attention to the regions *they get their supplies from*, hence > your problem. That is precisely the problem, isn't it? Regards, Debarshi

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Which laptop offers best support for Linux ?
by Priyank Patel 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hi, Im planning to buy a new laptop, and i intend to use Linux as the operating system i use on the machine. My old latop had Via chipset in it, and therefore i have faced lots of trouble in making Linux work on it, so this time i want to make sure that the machine I buy, would fully support it. So, i need some recommendations as to which laptop would be the best as far as Linux support goes. I am planning to buy a Dell Inspiron 1525. Is it the right choice or should i consider something else ? Thank You

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kind attn priyank patel/ linux compatible machine
by Suhit Kelkar 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Search here: 1] The Linux Compatible laptop list http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlistcat44.html 2] The database at Phoronix www.phoronix.com/lch/ A friend of mine says that Hewlett Packard notebooks are generally compatible with gnu/linux. Beware of buying 'blind'. You might end up with a laptop where the webcam and the card reader will not work. That can be a piss-off, though the rest of the hardware will work fine.

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Update on meeting for National Coalition/Network on FOSS
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hi All, We had the meeting for the national network/coalition for FOSS on the 22nd of February. Around 30-35 people attended and we had a good discussion.The details are put up at - http://fosscom.in Please do have a look. Thanks, Vinay. -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net http://itforchange.net http://india.is-watch.net/ http://is-watch.net

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Which laptop offers best support for Linux ?
by Debarshi Ray 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

> I am planning to buy a Dell Inspiron 1525. Is it the right choice or should i consider something else ? > I am using Debian 'Sid' on Apple Macbook White early 2008 model. Apart > from some very good tweaks during installation and later to get work > 'wifi' and 'isight', it is working perfect now! No more tweaking is necessary to get the Wifi working. The ath9k driver shipped with the latest Fedora 9 kernel, which is a 2.6.27 with the latest wireless patches, and onwards works out of the box. For the iSight camera, you need to extract the proprietary firmware from the MacOS driver using the isight-firmware-tools [1]. Having said that, I would advise you _against_ buying a MacBook [2]. Cheers, Debarshi [1] https://launchpad.net/isight-firmware-tools/ [2] http://debarshiray.multiply.com/journal/item/181/MacBook_DVDs_etc.

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Changed Subscription email-address
by Ros Ubuntu 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

List, Feel free to ignore this email. I have changed my subscription email address and this is a test email to the list. -- Roshan

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Mediawiki - How to get maintenance tags?
by Mehul Ved 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi, While putting up Rony's article, I felt the need to put up a maintenance tag[1] for the page to get attention to the requirements. I went through the Mediawiki guidelines to see that they have a defined template for it.. What would be the best way to use that template on ILUG-BOM wiki or any other personal wiki for that matter? 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Maintenance -- If all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister?

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