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Re: Local language computing ... and FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software)
by Kartik Mistry 07 Oct '07

07 Oct '07

> From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay > > I don't know exact details about Aksharyogini's license though. Me too as Debian's packager for ttf-indic-fonts. http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com/aksharyogini.html is very unclear. -- Cheers, ----------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry || GPG: 0xD1028C8D || IRC: kart_ kartikmistry.org/blog || kartikm.wordpress.com ----------------------------------------------------------

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[OFF TOPIC] Do not call registry.
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 05 Oct '07

05 Oct '07

Hi, Some of you might like this one [1]. Unless you take sadistic pleasure out of talking to those executives bugger to waste their time and give them bad ratings ;) [1]http://ndncregistry.com/indian-consumers-telecom-online.htm Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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[OT] Networking IP Query.
by Rony 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hello All, A few days back I gave a small introductory training session to some freshers on networking, ip addresses, subnets, gateways and dns. However after that one question comes to my mind about subnets. Can we have multiple networks with adjacent subnets on a common LAN connection or do they need to be physically different too? For example can we have 192.168.1-31/27 and 192.168.32-63/27 on the same LAN switch as independent subnet islands? Theoretically it looks so. When we set up network information on a host pc, we give the IP address and subnet. However, how does that host know the starting and ending ip of its subnet so that it will not talk to its adjacent subnet? ......For example, how does host 192.168.1.33/27 know that its subnet starts from ip 32 upto 63 and will not talk to 31 or less? Or do the subnets have to be on different LAN switches? Any pointers to this will help. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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FLOSS in schools: a query (and seeking your help)
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Dear all: I'm working a paper on Free/Libre and Open Source Software in Schools and would be grateful if you could point me to useful links about such ventures, where it has been used successfully or otherwise. A draft paper (work-in-progress) of what I've put together so far can be read at http://www.divshare.com/download/2205748-36f Your suggestions, comments and critique is welcome. Thanks in advance for any help you could offer. FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia

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Opensuse 10.3
by Rajen M. Parekh 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hi, Opensuse 10.3 has been released on some mirrors. Can anybody help get it ? Currently available at: ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/opensuse/distribution/10.3/iso/dvd/ http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/opensuse/distribution/10.3/iso/dvd/ Could be available at other mirrors but not all of them have made it available. I checked a few and found the above two have the ISOs. There is no official annoucement regarding its availability. The above mirrors also have torrents available. The ISO for i386 is around 4.1 GB. Regards, Rajen.

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[Semi-commercial] Community offers suggestions to Microsoft
by Janani Gopalakrishnan 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hi all, Thanks for sharing your views on problems with Microsoft and how to solve those. We have chosen the best of the responses received across mailing lists and uploaded the compilation (licensed under creative commons) on openITis.com. Please check it out at http://linuxforu.com/openitis/comment_articles.php?cpath=33&a_id=429# Thanks again! Cheers, Janani ----------------------------------------------------- Janani Gopalakrishnan Vikram http://gjanani.googlepages.com -----------------------------------------------------

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Linux users - pl give your opinion - this could be a decisive matter
by Sudhir Gandotra 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=83619&cat_id=912#593… The Linux users may like to counter this argument of m$ and to show to the authorities the right direction. This is a good chance to demonstrate our capabilities. Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Legal.Software @ Fractional Cost : http://kalculate.com http://openlx.com - International Alliance of LINUX companies You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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Fwd: [Semi-commercial] Community offers suggestions to Microsoft
by Philip Tellis 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Janani Gopalakrishnan <writetojanani(a)gmail.com> Date: 3 Oct 2007 16:41 Subject: [Semi-commercial] Community offers suggestions to Microsoft To: linuxers-owner(a)mm.glug-bom.org Hi all, Thanks for sharing your views on problems with Microsoft and how to solve those. We have chosen the best of the responses received across mailing lists and uploaded the compilation (licensed under creative commons) on openITis.com. Please check it out at http://linuxforu.com/openitis/comment_articles.php?cpath=33&a_id=429# Thanks again! Cheers, Janani ----------------------------------------------------- Janani Gopalakrishnan Vikram http://gjanani.googlepages.com -----------------------------------------------------

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Tata Indicom Broadband @ Linux box
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Hi, Few days back, I subscribed to Tata Indicom Broadband ( www.tataindicombroadband.in ). I chose the Infinity 1 Mbps plan. This apparently comes with no installation charges even if you don't give commitment for more than 1 month. For other plans you have to commit for 4 months to get that 1K INR waiver. I found that they do the feasilbilty quite fast and response time was quite fast as well ( this might depend on locality). But co-ordination between the tech and marketing dudes was not so good. Oh and neither of them knew if they supported Linux :O. Surprisingly the callcentre dude confidently said they do and the tech dude would setup everything when he comes to my place. Cut to my home ( few days later, i.e. yesterday ) - the tech dude arrives. When I tell him that I have linux on all the boxes he made a few calls and finally said he doesn't know how it works on Linux but he will get a mail from his boss and will come back and do the setup. After some random conversation, I asked him if he can do the setup on Windows atleast and he managed to do it on my windows partition in my laptop ( yes, I didnot delete it yet :). The general process these chaps follow is - login to some webconsole of theirs where they find data about the customer - go to the tata indicome bb website and register with the Serial number and PIN code. After which you have to select your username, password and the usual cruft. Then the create a account on your box and check if everything works and leave. The Linux way works much faster :). I followed [1]. But all that is needed is "sudo pppoeconf". If you already have a /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider, back it up if you care for existing settings. After that is mostly selecting yes or no. For user name - please select username(a)vsnl.net or whatever domain they have given you. But point being the complete userid+domain has to be there, afaik. Type in your password. ( when the dudes set it up, they generally put passwd as tata123, change it using the website ) Don't know if this is worth adding into the wiki. Maybe it should be, [1]http://users.pandora.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Field Report - Freed.in/2007
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Hi, I was at FREED.IN/2007 in Delhi - a event organised by ilug-del. This even was known as FreeDel earlier. This was the first even I attended by ilug-del. Some luggers from BOM have attended FreeDel many times before. It was a wonderful experience. Meeting many old friends and making many more new friends. Quite a few from ILUG-BOM were present. Many if not all of them were actually speakers at the event. The event kick started with Raj Mathur opening address and lamp lighting ceremony. Shawn Kwon gave a wonderful talk on his experiences with FOSS in Korea. It was followed by Atul Chitnis's interesting talk on innovation and startup. Was a good topic for budding entrepreneurs in the audience. Speakers from LUG-BOM included, Devdas Bhagat,Philip Tellis Barkha Khatri, Anurag Patel, Friji Karthikeyan, Arun Khan, Ananth A, Gaurav Chaturvedi, Dinesh Shah (who is a temporary Delhite atm) , Kartik Mistry and me. ( hope I didnot forget anyone, sorry if I did ). I finally met some people for the first time whom I knew from mailing lists and irc - Raj Mathur, Kingsly John (nicest and most helpful person ever!), Karanbir Singh ( you *have* hear him speak at least once, especially in a bof sort of environment ). There were quite a impromptu bofs. It often started as a chat and went on to become a fullfledged bof. One example was - when Mayank Sharma ( of Linux.com fame ), Aanjhan Ranganathan and me were discussing how we often meet at foss conf at various places - when Karanbir Singh joined us and Kingsly a little later. Since then the discussion took a right turn and went straight into discussing how certain aspects of ISPs work and "pairing" between ISPs work and other things even. After that a reporter from Tehelka.com joined us and asked many questions about FOSS. From that point on, many others joined the bof. That was one enlightening discussion. There were two panel discussions even and many many talks in different tracks. There was a lot of new things to learn, I must say. I had the opportunity to meet two GSoC candidates for the first time - Piyush Verma (KDE) and Anant Narayan ( Bell Labs ). Interesting chaps. Hope to see them again in future.Met old friends and known people from the Indian foss scene. Other lugs represented were - Pune LUG, ILug-Cal, people from Bangalore were there even ILUG-Del hospitality was awesome. I have never seen so many kababs at one time. ;). Some of us stayed in JNU campus, the place is really nice. The event was co-organised by JNU - School of Information Technology. Bottom line - great conference. You should seriously consider attending the event next time. Btw, it really is a community event. The line between speakers and volunteers is almost invisible. Quite a few speakers happily got "volunteered". Be there next time to see it yourself and experience it first hand. Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Tata Indicom Broadband @ Linux box
by Satish Alwani 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Actually, As far as I know they are replacing all their logins/ PPPoE based connections with a browser based login. Once you login (yes it works fine with firefox), your effectively online. I think they had a PPPoE connection here, but it was before i took up tata, when i joined they just gave me something called the TI BB Web Dialer [loginmum.tataindicombroadband.in]. Which in a way is good cause it works with any browser with js. Satish

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Re: .. [ILUG-BOM] Tata Indicom Broadband @ Linux box
by jtd 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

On Tuesday 02 October 2007 08:26, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote: > > Don't know if this is worth adding into the wiki. Maybe > it should be, Absolute must add. atleast for the benefit of tata zombies. Maybe you should add the general steps in configuring pppoe and subsections for tata, sify etc -- Rgds JTD

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How-to: Beginner's Guide to GCC (Ubuntu)
by Roshan N Baladhanvi 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

List, Since, Yahoo! was constantly bouncing my emails to the list, I have subscribed temporarily on a different email id. So, to begin posting, I have included a URL below that points to a How-To for beginners to using GCC. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Beginners_guide_to_GCC Please feel free to make any changes to the document. Suggestions / Comments / Criticism ? http://www.ubuntu-in.org

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blender compared with other 3D tools - pretty good
by Praveen A 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

"If you ever wanted starting in 3D creation today, you probably need to know with which 3D applications package with you will feel better and which is the most suitable for you and business ? Many new CG artists try many softwares before really starting their 3D business, that's of courses the best solution to try out and know if you feel coMfortable with one than other, so after you can't know all specs of all 3D softwares when starting in 3D... Here is a comparison table with cons. and pro. for the most know today top industries 3D applications. This table isn't intended to be complete with all softwares features available but try to surround the common today 3D cg artist tasks." Full review http://www.tdt3d.be/articles_viewer.php?art_id=99 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[OT]: Back to Yahoo!
by Roshan 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

List, I received an ack for my post to the list in my Yahoo! inbox. Looks like the problem is solved and therefore, Yahoo! users can send emails to the list. Thanks to the list admin and Yahoo! Customer Care. -- http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] How-to: Beginner's Guide to GCC (Ubuntu)
by Roshan N Baladhanvi 30 Sep '07

30 Sep '07

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 Rony wrote : >Thanks to your write up, I compiled my first C and C++ programs. Coo! >That was fun. :) Glad to know you had fun doing it. :) http://www.ubuntu-in.org

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[ILUG-BOM] Fwd: FW: LUKSH an invitation from Comet Media Foundation, Mumbai
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 30 Sep '07

30 Sep '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Comet Media [mailto:cometmediafdn@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:07 PM To: Comet Media Foundation Subject: LUKSH an invitation from Comet Media Foundation, Mumbai Dear Friend Have a look at the note below. We are sure you would be interested in joining such a group. Give a ring to Jacob at 23869052 or drop a line if you are coming. If you have any questions, speak to Lajpat 9422077888 or Aditi at 23826674 . Please forward this to your friends who are likely to be interested. Chandita ================================== LUKSH or GNU / Linux Users knowledge Sharing House an invitation from Comet Media Foundation, Mumbai Most of us who use computers and the Internet in our day to day work know that information technologies change very fast. We have had the experience of changing our computers from time to time as technologies offering greater amounts of computing power at faster speeds became available, together with better Internet connections. We tend to use terms like hardware and software to describe our computers. Many would remember going from a simple Pentium I PC to Pentium IV PC now the triple core PC. We try to get a fix on our computer hardware by remembering brand names and share the information with friends, but always have a lurking feeling that we don't have the whole picture. Going to software, can you remember the number of times you've had to upgrade your software? Then there are virus problems, despite spending sizable sums on anti-viral protection? Then the frustration of the computer hanging up just when something important had to go? You may have moved from one vendor or service provider to another, but no satisfactory explanation was ever given for these problems. You may have been told that you had to reset your computer for your own good. So often, you may have had to abandon your data, never knowing the reason why. A fast solution for the vendor or service provider, but such a loss to you. You just had to accept it as part of the IT game--it just happens to some people sometimes, it would seem. After all to gain such efficiency, you have to be prepared to lose something they said, as if it was a philosophical matter! Most of the problems we have encountered have to do with the stability of the software on our systems. To be more specific, while many of us may have heard of GNU or Linux, most of us only know Windows, the proprietary operating owned by Microsoft and Word, Excel, Powerpoint and other applications also distributed by Microsoft. By contrast, GNU/Linux is described as free software or open source meaning that its codes are open and can be modified by users. The trouble is, even if we are ready to adopt it, GNU/Linux is not easily found. Who will show us how to install it on our computers? Will we have to make any changes in our hardware for it? How will we train ourselves to use it? Is there any vendor or service provider to help us with it? Though the solution to many of our problems may seem to lie in free software, we find it difficult to get our hands on it. Do you know that eighty percent of the servers that the internet runs on use GNU/Linux and they remain on for 24 hours, all the time. This is because they are the most reliable operating systems. So, what is a GNU/Linux Operating System (OS)? And what is free software / open source? Why is it supposed to be free? Where can we come to know more about GNU/Linux? You can keep adding on questions which come to you. We at Comet Media Foundation have decided to form a club to respond to these needs, LUKSH or the GNU / L inux U sers K nowledge S haring H ouse. We thought we could meet every other week, or twice a month on the second and last Saturdays , to discuss the implementation of GNU / Linux and open source software at our workplaces and homes. Our LUKSH is simple: to share knowledge about GNU / LINUX and Open Source Software as a cost effective reliable virus-free alternate to costly proprietary software and to get ourselves out of the control of transnational IT corporations. It is about being free, not just getting something for nothing. Please join us from 2 to 5 pm on the 29 th of September 2007, for the first meeting to explore this further. The agenda will be set by you; the resource people are ready for your questions. Lajpat Dhingra LUKSH Coordinator, Comet Media Foundation, http://www.cometmedia.org Reference websites http://www.opensource.org http://www.gnu.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds" HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia

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Why short hand English is an irritant in mailing lists? was: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mail Delivery Issues?
by Nagarjuna G. 29 Sep '07

29 Sep '07

The thread referred to in the subject line started with Mail delivery issues, and then started discussing some newbie problems, and ended up with some discussion about shorthand and being literate in English ... Our emails are archived. When you search emails using any search engine, getting replies and help based on short hand English becomes difficult. The user's group's emails are a great source of help for a number of people who look for help on the Internet. Therefore it is necessary to write questions and reply messages as comprehensively as possible. Our questions and replies to them are valuable knowledge base. improper language and subject of threads does disturb the implicit protocol. Therefore, please use good subject lines, and if necessary use new subject lines, or edit subject lines for appropriate archiving. And of course as good language as possible. Nagarjuna

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Mail Delivery Issues?
by Rony 29 Sep '07

29 Sep '07

Hello All, Is anyone experiencing mail delivery problems with the list mails? Off late I am receiving mails very erratically. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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postfix - -Content-Type
by Agnello George 29 Sep '07

29 Sep '07

Hi I have searched for a document ion that allows a mail server to automatically add a banner to the message that sender composes, but found none . For eg: when you send a mail from yahoo.com the recipient to whom the mail is sent receives the mail and at the end of the message a banner or advertisment that says "click here" How is this done at MTA level Thanks ( in advanced :-) ) -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] Novell Makes Linux Driver Project a Reality
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 28 Sep '07

28 Sep '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay(a)gmail.com> Date: Sep 28, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: [Ilug-cal-discuss] Novell Makes Linux Driver Project a Reality To: ILUG-Cal's principal mailing list <ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/linux_driver_project_kickoff.html "Novell have relaunched the Linux Driver Project by dedicating well-known kernel developer Greg KH to work on the project full-time. Greg KH writes: 'My employer, Novell, has modified my position to now allow me to work full time on this project. Namely getting more new Linux kernel drivers written, for free, for any company that so desires. And to help manage all of the developers and project managers who want to help out...They really care about helping make Linux support as many devices as possible, with fully open-source drivers.'" from: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/28/0544226&from=rss - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG/Pa6XQZpNTcrCzMRAmWdAJ0Y2fT254/WiAWg5S/QBLOV6V+UQwCeIfNC 9F6OrJjMMtIjrpCZOWW3dN4= =BdFy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ilug-cal-discuss mailing list Ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org http://list.ilug-cal.org/mailman/listinfo/ilug-cal-discuss -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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LUKSH an invitation from Comet Media Foundation, Mumbai
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

From: Comet Media [mailto:cometmediafdn@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:07 PM To: Comet Media Foundation Subject: LUKSH an invitation from Comet Media Foundation, Mumbai Dear Friend Have a look at the note below. We are sure you would be interested in joining such a group. Give a ring to Jacob at 23869052 or drop a line if you are coming. If you have any questions, speak to Lajpat 9422077888 or Aditi at 23826674 . Please forward this to your friends who are likely to be interested. Chandita ================================== LUKSH or GNU / Linux Users knowledge Sharing House an invitation from Comet Media Foundation, Mumbai Most of us who use computers and the Internet in our day to day work know that information technologies change very fast. We have had the experience of changing our computers from time to time as technologies offering greater amounts of computing power at faster speeds became available, together with better Internet connections. We tend to use terms like hardware and software to describe our computers. Many would remember going from a simple Pentium I PC to Pentium IV PC now the triple core PC. We try to get a fix on our computer hardware by remembering brand names and share the information with friends, but always have a lurking feeling that we don't have the whole picture. Going to software, can you remember the number of times you've had to upgrade your software? Then there are virus problems, despite spending sizable sums on anti-viral protection? Then the frustration of the computer hanging up just when something important had to go? You may have moved from one vendor or service provider to another, but no satisfactory explanation was ever given for these problems. You may have been told that you had to reset your computer for your own good. So often, you may have had to abandon your data, never knowing the reason why. A fast solution for the vendor or service provider, but such a loss to you. You just had to accept it as part of the IT game--it just happens to some people sometimes, it would seem. After all to gain such efficiency, you have to be prepared to lose something they said, as if it was a philosophical matter! Most of the problems we have encountered have to do with the stability of the software on our systems. To be more specific, while many of us may have heard of GNU or Linux, most of us only know Windows, the proprietary operating owned by Microsoft and Word, Excel, Powerpoint and other applications also distributed by Microsoft. By contrast, GNU/Linux is described as free software or open source meaning that its codes are open and can be modified by users. The trouble is, even if we are ready to adopt it, GNU/Linux is not easily found. Who will show us how to install it on our computers? Will we have to make any changes in our hardware for it? How will we train ourselves to use it? Is there any vendor or service provider to help us with it? Though the solution to many of our problems may seem to lie in free software, we find it difficult to get our hands on it. Do you know that eighty percent of the servers that the internet runs on use GNU/Linux and they remain on for 24 hours, all the time. This is because they are the most reliable operating systems. So, what is a GNU/Linux Operating System (OS)? And what is free software / open source? Why is it supposed to be free? Where can we come to know more about GNU/Linux? You can keep adding on questions which come to you. We at Comet Media Foundation have decided to form a club to respond to these needs, LUKSH or the GNU / L inux U sers K nowledge S haring H ouse. We thought we could meet every other week, or twice a month on the second and last Saturdays , to discuss the implementation of GNU / Linux and open source software at our workplaces and homes. Our LUKSH is simple: to share knowledge about GNU / LINUX and Open Source Software as a cost effective reliable virus-free alternate to costly proprietary software and to get ourselves out of the control of transnational IT corporations. It is about being free, not just getting something for nothing. Please join us from 2 to 5 pm on the 29 th of September 2007, for the first meeting to explore this further. The agenda will be set by you; the resource people are ready for your questions. Lajpat Dhingra LUKSH Coordinator, Comet Media Foundation, http://www.cometmedia.org Reference websites http://www.opensource.org http://www.gnu.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds" HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia

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IP based virtual domains- postfix
by Agnello George 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

Hi Dose postfix support IP based virtual domains , if yes how does one enable it. Thanks -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[COMMERCIAL] System Administrator post at HBCSE
by alpesh gajbe 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

HOMI BHABHA CENTRE FOR SCIENCE EDUCATION Establishment Ref.: HBC/EST/PF/ September 24, 2007 NOTICE NO. 14/07 PROJECT FELLOWS (2 Positions) Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education (TIFR), Mumbai hereby invites applications for the positions of Project Fellows for Computer Systems Administration. Job Description: HBCSE HAS a LAN with about 120 clients, 6 servers, and an upcoming data-cluster. The candidate is required to manage and monitor the network, the websites and provide basic support. All the servers run GNU/Linux operating system and use exclusively free software. 1.Candidates should have sound knowledge of GNU/Linux (Unix) system administration 2.System Administration includes setting up and maintaining servers for web, email, spam and virus filtering, firewalls, network traffic monitoring, databases, wikis, backups, etc. HBCSE conducts computer related workshops for schools and other educational organization. 3.Candidate should have a passion for working in a learning environment, a good understanding of free software development and support system is essential. 4.Good understanding of free software development and support system will be prefered. 5.Good communication skills with interest in technical education. Qualifications: Candidates should have a B.E., B. Tech, BCA, MCA, or any non-professional degrees with relevant experience. The positions are purely temporary, for one year in the first instance and extendable by one more year, and carry a consolidated honorarium of Rs.10,000/- p.m. to 16,000/- p.m. based on qualification and relevant experience. Age: Below 35 years (relaxable in deserving cases). Please send your application giving full details such as Name, Date of Birth, Full address with phone/mobile number and e-mail address, Educational Qualification, names and addresses of two referees along with working and project experience, if any and any other relevant evidence of your suitability for the position on or before September 27, 2007 addressed to nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in For more information visit our website: http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in (Notice No.14/07). Candidates selected for the interviews will be informed by October 1, 2007. The interviews are expected to be held in the same week after October 1, 2007. (M. D. Gaitonde) Admn. Officer-D NOTICE BOARDS : HBCSE, Mankhurd : GMRT, Pune : TIFR Main Campus : RAC Colony : TIFR Centre, Bangalore : CRL, Ooty : NCBS, Banglore : BF, Hyderabad : NCRA, Pune : HEGRO, Panchmarhi

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[Fwd: Fw: failure notice]
by Koustubha Kale 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com" <MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com> To: koustubha_kale(a)yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 6:35:08 PM Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org>: CNAME lookup failed temporarily. (#4.4.3) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <koustubha_kale(a)yahoo.com> Received: (qmail 23504 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2007 12:03:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=AGdADahKwe0evS13V1ok+d2G5B7gpRMIKwgUypFeWt1x+9bDopBaXnIbdGanYGSRMjNztxJFTgTGw7gmoFgIjDhgk142IMfKCzpQKR0hgRZhx0NArWCW2LHtd6LAe2qxi8MzgDF6Kzdq2lZXj1GVzceCu6uuoKqN04mFw8+BzBo=; X-YMail-OSG: gqVhDhMVM1mzZ5uB9kaa5xDKhxER8crm82Jmqr8MA93fAb1xa3pqhpwwTmI4bWHCVQ-- Received: from [209.191.106.123] by web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:03:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Koustubha Kale <koustubha_kale(a)yahoo.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org Cc: Koustubha Kale <kmkale(a)anantcorp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <634634.23379.qm(a)web35206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi,=0AUsing kdm on the server, after the user has logged in to a KDE sessio= n, I need to run a script with access to the remote users IP/Hostname and U= sername after login in order to do some stuff like mount his local drives e= tc.. =0A=0AIs there an equivalent of GDM PostLogin in KDE?=0A=0A =0AWith wa= rm regards=0AKoustubha Kale=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ___________________________= ________________________________________________ Hi, Messages sent to the list from my yahoo account have been bouncing for the past week. I unsubscribed from that account finally. Can the admin have a look at the above bounce details & may be take some corrective measures if necessary? -- Regards, Koustubha Kale

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GDM PostLogin equivalent for KDM?
by Koustubha Kale 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Hi, I need to run some stuff as root after users log in to the server. Need access to $REMOTE_HOST & $USER etc. This server has KDE & users don't want GNOME. Is there an equivalent to GDM PostLogin/Default for KDE? Or is there any other way to achieve same results like by inserting my code lines in some script Or by putting in a script somewhere? Regards Koustubha Kale

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Simple bandwidth monitoring for MTNL Tri-Band router
by Koustubha Kale 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Tried simple mrtg bandwidth monitoring for my MTNL Tri-Band router D-Link DSL-502T. Works too.. [1]http://www.anantcorp.com//D-Link_ADSL_router_mrtg_howto.txt in case anybody wants to know how.. regards Koustubha Kale References 1. http://www.anantcorp.com//D-Link_ADSL_router_mrtg_howto.txt

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Problem with broken package, Ubuntu 6.06
by Kamaleshwar Morjal [कम लेश्व र मो रजाल] 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Hello, I am a new to the world of Linux. I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed on my machine. And I have a problem with it, I apologise for such a long mail but to be on the safe side, I thought it would be better to describe the problem as elaborately as possible as I am unaware of the functioning of this system. Since this version of Ubuntu did not come with gcc i tried getting and installing it from the internet. But while doing so (I admit I was totally unaware what I was doing..) I somehow messed up with installed packages on the system. The installation of a package called libc6 did not complete successfully and I got some error saying all dependencies could not be satisfied. It also said (although I don't precisely remember the exact message..) that a service called "gdm" is running that interfered with the installation. [Till then I was unaware of the [package managers available on board; my fault! Didn't read the manual!] Then, when i tried using the package manager [The "Add/Remove" utility & Synaptic] the software refused go any further saying there is a broken package on the machine that needs to be removed first. It instructed me to run the command "apt-get -install -f" at the terminal. I did. The message I got there was that two more packages (ubuntu-base & ubuntu-minimal) will have to be removed from the system along with the broken package "libc6". I cancelled the process right there.. Because the warning said it would free up more than 2GB space on the disk on removing the ubuntu-minimal package. I suspect this must include quite essential parts of the system and therefore chose not to remove it then before getting more information about it. But I am not able to install any more packages unless I remove these three packages from the system. Meanwhile I also requested the latest version, 7.04 (Fiesty Fawn) of Ubuntu from the Ubuntu website and have received the disk today. I have seen that it includes updated versions of some of the packages, has gcc preinstalled, and I suppose, is definitely an improvement over Dapper Drake. Now my doubt is: 1. How can I resolve the error on my installed system, 6.06 LTS (the problem described above)? 2. Is removing the package "ubuntu-minimal" from the system safe? Can it be restored to previous state? (I'm on dial-up, downloading 2GB of data is an impossibility!) 3.* Is there another way? can i install the latest software i received today (Ubuntu 7.04) overwriting the previous one, but preserving the user accounts, settings, software and data that i've already stored there? For instance, I've installed Mozilla 2.0.0.6, while v 7.04 comes with Mozilla 2.0.0.3! Can i keep the newer version there without messing up anything? (I also have plug-ins like Flash Player for Mozilla installed..) 4. If not 3, can I at least keep the data on the disk unharmed while installing the new (Ubuntu 7.04 over Ubuntu 6.06 LTS) OS. Asked 1 and 2 just for gaining knowledge about what can be done in such a situation, however I want to install the newer version nevertheless, so please at least show me a way to do at least one of 3 or 4 if possible! I really appreciate your cooperation and concern. { * Here I try to describe the currently installed system's configuration as much as I can comprehend and remember. 1. one password protected user account. 2. dial up connection set up. (for modem set-up, I used the scanModem script, thanks to http://www.linmodems.org/; it was very useful and easy to work with) I use "wvdial" to connect to the internet. 3. Mozilla 2.0.0.6 installed (removed the default 1.x version that was preinstalled), + Flash Player plug-in + loads of Mozilla extensions. 4. I have a dual boot with M$ (khidkiyan :p), so, all doors and windows mounted (read FAT32 & NTFS drives! =)); actually Ubuntu does that by default; no pain. 5. 405 MB of data on the Linux drive. Can I preserve it while installing V 7.04 over V 6.06 LTS. 6. Currently fsck, while booting, gives me an error saying the boot sector and its backup are different, and provides all the offsets/differences that it encountered. If fsck logs it to a file, i can post it here if i know where it is logged, that might give a better picture. } [[ About my internet connection.. Although i somehow know that my connection uses CHAP authentication, i get the following logs at the terminal every time i use "wvdial".. --> Warning: Could not modify /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: Permission denied --> --> PAP (Password Authentication Protocol) may be flaky. --> Warning: Could not modify /etc/ppp/chap-secrets: Permission denied --> --> CHAP (Challenge Handshake) may be flaky. Any information would be really enlightening there.. ]] Thank you very much and regards. :) -- "LUCK i$ the RE$iDUE of GooD De$iGn" kamaleshwar morjal (कमलेश्वर मोरजाल) http://www.eficacy.com/

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Sorry bout the read rcpt in my prev post
by Koustubha Kale 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

List, Sorry about the read rcpt in my prev post. Keep forgetting the bloody thing since I am now using my office account ( as messages to the list from my prev yahoo account kept bouncing.) -- Regards, Koustubha Kale

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postmap -q ( query error )
by Agnello George 26 Sep '07

26 Sep '07

Hi On my postfix server when i try to query the database i get the following error [root@mail ~]# postmap -q "agnello(a)niteshn.info" /etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf postmap: fatal: open database /etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf.db: No such file or directory can some one please tell me where i have gone wrong Thanks -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Revoking/Objecting to Software Patents in Indian Patent Office
by Saurabh Nanda 25 Sep '07

25 Sep '07

http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2007/09/spicyip-tidbits_23.html India, prima facie, does not allow pure software patents or business method patents. But that doesn't stop companies from trying. The Indian Patent Office is already being flooded with the patents described as "A web based system to do XYZ" or "A computer system in conjunction with XY to do Z" With no one opposing them (and not enough noise about this, like in the case of pharma patents), there's a high probability that this would get granted. Does anyone know of a concerted effort to keep this kind of cruft out from our country? Any pointers? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com

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Text Editors versus IDE - Your opinions
by Roshan 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

List, Terms used: IDE: Integrated Development Environment CS: Computer Science IT: Information Technology I was thinking about this for sometime now, and realized, that there wasn't any emphasis on the "tools" being used in courses (graduate, postgraduate) (CS and IT). They may not be of utmost importance, but I'll like to know your opinions and choices. 1. Most of the courses use Windows as their OS and have Notepad as the default text editor used for programming languages such as Java etc. Even for HTML, CSS etc, notepad remains the default text editor. Notepad (default) doesn't have any syntax highlighting or other options. Surprisingly, students are told they learn better, if they are not equipped with these. (Text editor features) I wonder, programmers under *nix, have Konsole ( ;) ) based text editors as well as GUI text editors (Just to differentiate for the sake of it: vim, nano and Kate, Emacs, gEdit) which provide syntax highlighting and a host of other options. Are they at a loss? 2. IDEs are great for development. Because, they hide the actual commands of compiling, interpreting / running the program. (some) They also enable the user with point-click tools and generate code for those tools / components. Surprisingly, the same students are allowed to use the Turbo C++ 3.0 (16-bit compiler) IDE with syntax highlighting for C / C++ programs and are able to write typical C / C++ programs later. The question is, are Text Editors better for students to begin programming or are IDEs better for students? (Irrespective of the language) Text Editors in Windows and GNU/Linux have capabilities that allow the process of compilation, interpretation, execution, identation, adding comments, etc. In some sense, Text Editors nearly is an IDE. -- http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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maildrop- Temporary authentication failure.
by Agnello George 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Hi All I am trying to use maildrop as a MDA when i send a mail it give me a error [root@mail ~]# echo "test" |mail -v -s "agnello" agnello(a)niteshn.info [root@mail ~]# tail -f /var/log/maillog ........ ........... Sep 24 13:54:15 mail postfix/qmgr[5074]: BC21B2814F: from=< root(a)mail.postfix-spam.com>, size=562, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 24 13:54:15 mail postfix/smtpd[5216]: disconnect from mail.postfix-spam.com[127.0.0.1] Sep 24 13:54:15 mail maildrop[5226]: *Temporary authentication failure. *Sep 24 13:54:15 mail postfix/pipe[5225]: BC21B2814F: to=< agnello(a)niteshn.info>, relay=maildrop, delay=0, status=deferred *(temporary failure. Command output: /usr/bin/maildrop: Temporary authentication failure. )* could some one *please* tell me where i have gone wrong. And how to correct the problem -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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maildrop:Temporary authentication failure
by Agnello George 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Hi All I am trying to use maildrop as a MDA when i send a mail it give me a error [root@mail ~]# echo "test" |mail -v -s "agnello" agnello(a)niteshn.info [root@mail ~]# tail -f /var/log/maillog ........ ........... Sep 24 13:54:15 mail postfix/qmgr[5074]: BC21B2814F: from=< root(a)mail.postfix-spam.com>, size=562, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 24 13:54:15 mail postfix/smtpd[5216]: disconnect from mail.postfix-spam.com[127.0.0.1] Sep 24 13:54:15 mail maildrop[5226]: *Temporary authentication failure. *Sep 24 13:54:15 mail postfix/pipe[5225]: BC21B2814F: to=< agnello(a)niteshn.info>, relay=maildrop, delay=0, status=deferred *(temporary failure. Command output: /usr/bin/maildrop: Temporary authentication failure. )* could some one pls tell me where i have gone wrong. And how to correct the problem -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[Cross-Post] FOSS.IN/2007 - Call for participation
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Hi, The call for participation is now out. Clicky [1] Now! [1]http://foss.in/2007/info/Call_for_Participation Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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telnet issue port 25
by Agnello George 22 Sep '07

22 Sep '07

I have set up a ( postfix) mail server and i am try to telnet post 25 but not abel to do so but if stop the iptables iam able to telnet thne same . This machine is a virtual server . could you pls tell me waht is wrong with my iptables file A VZ_INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A VZ_INPUT -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT -A VZ_INPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 53 -j ACCEPT -A VZ_INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --sport 80 --dport 1023:65535 -j ACCEPT -A VZ_OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --sport 22 -j ACCEPT -A VZ_OUTPUT -p udp -m udp --sport 1023:65535 --dport 53 -j ACCEPT -A VZ_OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT COMMIT Thank you -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Regarding Nagios Network Monitoring Tool
by zoheb ashraf 22 Sep '07

22 Sep '07

Dear ILUG-BOM, I am having very critical probkem regarding Nagios Network Monitoring Tool. As I installed nagios in Redhat Linux AS4 through RPM and i dont know what to do after that, I think i have to do Some changes in configuration file eg- /usr/local/nagios/etc/hosts.cfg /usr/local/nagios/etc/hostgroup.cfg /usr/local/nagios/etc/services.cfg /usr/local/nagios/etc/servicegroup.cfg /usr/local/nagios/etc/contacts.cfg /usr/local/nagios/etc/contactsgroup.cfg /usr/local/nagios/etc/timeperiod.cfg I am not very champ in linux so please help me out. Thanks & Regards Zoheb Ansari

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[ANNOUNCE] GPG Keysigning party at freed.in 2007
by Raj Mathur 22 Sep '07

22 Sep '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The managers of freed.in 2007 (http://freed.in/) are pleased to announce that we will host a GNU Privacy Guard (GPG) key signing party on both days of the event. A GPG key signing party enables people from diverse places to verify, validate and sign each others' GPG keys. This helps build the Web of Trust, and ultimately moves towards achieving the goal of empowering individuals with the means for private and secure communications. More details on GPG can be found at http://gnupg.org/ . The How to Participate in a GPG Keysigning Party document at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/KeysigningParties gives details on participating. Please contact Raj Mathur at <mailto:raju (at) linux-delhi (dot) org> if you have any queries. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG9KceyWjQ78xo0X8RAu8YAJ9VTJHr4gGovwMBfwEQL0YPQQR4zwCfeQml AgpgXKBmUmFJd60D3byLe3Q= =nR79 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Etch dvds (3)
by jtd 21 Sep '07

21 Sep '07

hi all, I require a set of etch dvd's. I have mailed the "cd available" guys, but have not recieved feedback (yet). -- Rgds JTD

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maia-mailguard error while accessing http://localhost/maia
by Agnello George 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

HI I am gettng a blank page when trying to access the http://localhost/maia ( i have followed instruction as per wiki ) following is the log that i recvd frm /var/log/httpd/maia-error_log ##################################################################### [root@mail maia]# tail -f /var/log/httpd/maia-error_log [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type PEAR_Error as array in /var/www/html/maia/admin/configtest.php on line 292 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant PEAR_LOG_DEBUG - assumed 'PEAR_LOG_DEBUG' in /var/www/html/maia/config.php on line 79 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant PEAR_LOG_DEBUG - assumed 'PEAR_LOG_DEBUG' in /var/www/html/maia/config.php on line 82 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Fatal error: Class 'Log' not found in /var/www/html/maia/maia_log.php on line 87 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant PEAR_LOG_DEBUG - assumed 'PEAR_LOG_DEBUG' in /var/www/html/maia/config.php on line 79 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant PEAR_LOG_DEBUG - assumed 'PEAR_LOG_DEBUG' in /var/www/html/maia/config.php on line 82 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Fatal error: Class 'Log' not found in /var/www/html/maia/maia_log.php on line 87 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant PEAR_LOG_DEBUG - assumed 'PEAR_LOG_DEBUG' in /var/www/html/maia/config.php on line 79 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant PEAR_LOG_DEBUG - assumed 'PEAR_LOG_DEBUG' in /var/www/html/maia/config.php on line 82 [client 192.168.0.208] PHP Fatal error: Class 'Log' not found in /var/www/html/maia/maia_log.php on line 87 ################################################################# I have not undestood where i went worng . PLs let me know how to resolve this . -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[OT] [Announce] Yahoo! Bangalore Open Hack Day
by Philip Tellis 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Yahoo! Bangalore is organising an open hack day on the 5th and 6th of October in Bangalore. In short, if you're interested in getting together with like minded hackers and writing code, mashing up web APIs and just doing something cool, this is the place to be. More details available on http://hackday.org/ Register at http://hackdayindia.eventwax.com/hack-day-india Philip -- hello world

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parameter for postfix !!!
by Agnello George 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Hi I tried googling for the following parameters, but none of them are mentioned in the postfix site : ( where can i find the meaning for the following parameters ) ( the following parameter are mentioned in the howtoforge tutorial ) main.cf smtpd_pw_server_security_options virtual_mailbox_extended virtual_mailbox_limit_maps virtual_mailbox_limit_override virtual_maildir_limit_message virtual_overquota_bounce Thanks -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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maia-mailguard
by Agnello George 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

HI i am using maia-mailguard on my mailserver for per use/domain administration of their spam setting I have installed it as per the nstruction in http://www.maiamailguard.com/maia/wiki/Install i am however recving a error in the in th emaillog client 192.168.0.208] PHP Fatal error: main() [<a href='function.require'> function.require</a>]: Failed opening required 'Log.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear:./libs:') in /var/www/html/maia/core.php on line 81 could some one pls explain what i need to do -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Re:[Forward]Mandriva Linux 2008 Installfest: November 17th, 2007
by Easwar Hariharan 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mandriva Team <return(a)mandriva.com> Date: Sep 19, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Mandriva Linux 2008 Installfest: November 17th, 2007 To: meindian523(a)gmail.com Mandriva Linux 2008 will be released soon! In order to celebrate this event, to bring Linux to new users and present the new features available in Mandriva Linux 2008, Mandriva would like to coordinate a worldwide Installfest on November 17th, 2007. Expert Mandriva Linux users are invited to assist beginners to help them get started with the operating system. Participants will be able to get help on installing Mandriva Linux 2008 on their laptop or desktop, get all answers to their questions and meet other Linux users. If you would like to hold an install party in your country, please contact lugs(a)mandrivalinux.org and we will send send you: * Mandriva Linux One 2008 * stickers * posters * pens * electronic communication kit Check out all the information on Mandriva Community wiki : http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Community/Events/Installfest2008 If you have any question concerning the event, do not hesitate to contact us at lugs(a)mandrivalinux.org. What say guys?? Regards, Easwar

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per-domain spamassisn administration
by Agnello George 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

HI As metioned before i have set up a postfix server with mysql database , using work around tutorial , but since i am trying to ISP mailserver with rellerer control pannel ( using postfix admin ).. there is no way to manage the amavisd and spamassisn rules for individual domains and users ... does any one have a work around for this ... your input will be of great help -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[Announce] PlugMash event - 13-14th Oct
by Devendra Laulkar 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

Announcement ------------ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group (http://www.plug. org.in<http://www.plug.org.in/>) is organising a techie event called PlugMash. It is a hack-a-thon/ mashup camp, to bring together developers and contributors( or geeks/nerds) of the FOSS community. A 2 day hackfest to generate some serious (and some not so serious) code. No boring lectures & talks... Its all about getting your hands dirty. You can put in your ideas at http://plug.org.in/mashup/index.php?Ideas You can find more details at http://plug. org.in/mashup/ index.php <http://plug.org.in/mashup/index.php> The event is going to be held on 13th - 14th(Sat/Sun) October at Bhaskaracharya Pratishthana, Law College Road, Pune. For more details, please visit the PlugMash website - The FAQ lists answers to most questions. Feel free to inform colleagues/friends about this event. -Devendra Laulkar ------------ --------- -- http://www.laulkar. com/ <http://www.laulkar.com/>

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Blender Issues.
by Rony 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

Hello All, I have installed Blender 2.4 for Windows along with Python 2.5.1 for a client. Blender imports the .3ds file format from 3D Studio. However, in 3D Studio, it has to be exported from .max format to .3ds first. Now what happened was that after exporting from max to 3ds into Blender, a chair has turned into a drawing board used by draughtsmen with an extra pole sticking perpendicular out of the board. Has anyone on this list had such teething problems in Blender? What could be the work around for this? I will check it out on the net too. Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Semi-commercial: Ekalavya/Red Hat Scholarships award winners
by Venkatesh Hariharan 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

The list of winners of the Ekalavya/Red Hat Scholarships 2006-2007 is now up at: http://ekalavya.it.iitb.ac.in/showRhsResult.do The software developed by these teams can also be downloaded from the above link. Around 947 student groups participated this year, with 40 making it to the final short list. This is a joint program between the Ekalavya program of IIT Bombay and Red Hat. Venky

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[COMMERCIAL] System Administration posts at Delhi/Gurgaon/Noida
by Sudhir Gandotra 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

Hello, We are detailing herebelow our requirements for the post of System Administrator. If you think, that on a scale of 1 to 10, you cross 5 as an average on every point, call us (on numbers given below) to fix the interview appointment and we meet to discuss further. Please send your resume offline to me. The posts (4 of them) are primarily in Delhi/Gurgaon/Noida. System Administrator with Minimum Experience of 9-12 months of doing the following activities : Samba with ACL permissions - File-sharing, Backup/Recovery/Troubleshooting, ACL-permission, Log-management, etc. Primary Domain Controller (PDC) - Domain-creation, Multiple PDC's in single network, Group-creation, Unix-group mapping with NT group, User-management, Trusted Domain relationship, Backup/Recovery/Troubleshooting, WINS setup and maintenance, NetBIOS knowledge Mailserver (Qmail, Sendmail, Postfix) - Domain/Sub-Domain & multiple (virtual) Domains Management, Spamassassin, Clamav, RBL, TLS, Blacklist, SMTP-auth, SSL-key, POPs, IMAPs, User-management, Log-management, etc. Firewall/VPN service - Iptables, Ipchains, DNAT, SNAT, IP-Forwarding, Masquerading, Port-forwarding, Port-scanning/blocking/opening etc., V-LAN management, Routing between LANs, PPTP (tunneling), ipsec Proxy with ACL - Setup, Config, log/cache/user management, website blocking, bandwith management, user access on time/day basis etc. MySql - Installation, Backup, Recovery, Replication, Trouble-shooting, User-management etc. DNS - Zone-creation, troubleshooting. HTTP - Apache setup, config, optimization, security. DHCP - Standard setup as well as having IP address bound with specific MAC address on network. Network Devices - Switches/Hubs, Manageable switches, VPN router, Network-printer, Wireless-switch etc. RAID/LVM Configuration, Management, Trouble-shooting, Recovery & Filesystem Recovery aspects Network Management Tools - Installation, Configuration, Working Management like Hobbit, Zabbix etc. Also must know about SNMP protocol and implementation of net-SNMP in linux. Remunerations will not be a constraint for the suitable candidates. You can call : Rajeev Kumar at 0-93-101-20917 / 0-93-101-20915

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

jtd wrote: > On Saturday 15 September 2007 19:12, Rony wrote: >> JTD wrote:- (Parts without quotes) >> >> >> >>> OO is not ready for use IS an attitude problem. Especially when it >>> is contrary to my (and hughe number of other people's) experience >>> in using both Msorifice and OO > >> (RB) If that was the case it would sell like hot cakes. Retail >> vendors are always looking out for equivalent solutions. > > You have just taken a giant leap into wrong logic. Selling like > hotcakes has got absolutely nothing to do with the issues being > discussed. Big sales != good software. > Software is created for users, not vice versa. Good software not only means good from inside but an easy to use and intuitive interface outside. For new users it is necessary to train them even on doze software but when pro tools are created as libre replacements to commercial closed software, then they could follow those interfaces so as to eliminate any extra training required for the pro users. > > That means it becomes slightly less crappy, usually by increasing RAM > (memory leaks), higher speed cpu (limiting cpu load), adding AV (poor > security and additional load on cpu). Resources which cost and are > better utilised elsewhere. > No hardware upgrades. BTW even linux needs more resources as distros get newer. >>> >> (RB) This is rubbish. If M$ Office and XP crash 10 times a day, >> most offices will shut down. There will be chaos. Lets not get >> biased so much that we exaggerate. > > I suppose u havent been to a large scale M$ shop with admins > reinstalling tens of machines daily. Besides the fairly common > shutting down of services for "maintanence". Afair the UK pension > system shutdown solid for more than a week. And recently all Vista > machines refused to boot in some town in Sweden. There was a case of > a banks ATMs (300 of em) infected by some crappy worm inspite of all > the "security". > As I had mentioned earlier, Linux is the best option for big organizations. Free of cost license, customisation and high security. > >> (RB) GUI is just an extension of a script. The script you mentioned >> can be run by simply clicking a gui shortcut to it. It is all about >> environment. If you have to work in a terminal only environment, >> naturally command line and scripts is the way. If you are in a gui >> Instead, there is a gui firmware >> interface which only the service personnel would understand and >> they correctly enter the values according to the customer's >> environment and the gui internally creates relevant scripts and >> runs them. > > Nothing wrong in that except when you have to click ten buttons a 30 > times thrice a month, or when the idiot service engineer from the isp > presses the reset button on the modem and u having to send your > engineer to set things right. > You can backup the config file available in the gui and restore it after any mess ups. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mail Delivery Issues?
by Rony 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Kamaleshwar Morjal [कमलेश्वर मोरजाल] wrote: > i wanna > increase the count-down timer's count that 10 seconds by default.. > how can i edit that.. anything more about GRUB would be appreciated > and wud > b great help too.. Hello, This will help you get comprehensive information about grub. http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Test Mail Email Problem.
by Rony 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Hello All, Sorry for this test mail. I have been facing a wall when sending mails to this list. In the past few days all my mails to the list have bounced. The technical reason is a qmail error "CNAME lookup failed temporarily. (#4.4.3)". This remained even after changing from Yahoo UK to India. Since there are many gmail users on this list, I created an id for the list too. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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FF Extension to help in bottom posting
by Mohan Nayaka 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

List, See this cool FF extension. Among other things, it helps post correctly in gmail. http://lifehacker.com/software/gmail/lifehacker-code-better-gmail-firefox-e… Screenshot: http://lifehacker.com/photogallery/Better-Gmail-Firefox-extension/2035718 Regards, Mohan S N -- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. -- Gandalf the Grey [J.R.R. Tolkien, "Lord of the Rings"]

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Problems Regarding Installing scratchbox
by swapnil kamble 18 Sep '07

18 Sep '07

Hi all, I have downloaded scractchbox-core/libs/toolchain . According installation instructions I extracted those tarballs into /. So all extracted files comes in /scratchbox. Then I ran run_me_first. [root@localhost scratchbox]# /scratchbox/run_me_first.sh Do you want to use sudo mode? [yes/no] (no): Give the name of the scratchbox group (sbox): No such group! The group 'sbox' does not seem to exist! Would you like me to create the group 'sbox' for you? [yes/no] (yes): yes No such group! Creating group "sbox"... cp: cannot stat `/etc/hostname': No such file or directory Stopping Scratchbox: umount, mount: none already mounted or /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc busy mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc. Starting Scratchbox: binfmt_misc, mount. Now you should add one or more users with /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser [root@localhost scratchbox]# /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser user sbox=yes Scratchbox user account for user user added [root@localhost root]# su - user -bash: modprobe: command not found [user@localhost user]$ groups [user@localhost user]$ cd /scratchbox/ [user@localhost scratchbox]$ ./login Welcome to Scratchbox, the cross-compilation toolkit! Use 'sb-menu' to change your compilation target. See /scratchbox/doc/ for documentation. ERROR: Operation not permitted chroot(/scratchbox/users/user) [user@localhost scratchbox]$ Can Anyone tell me how to resolve this problem. Because I want the prompt of scratchbox, to carry out cross-compilation. However it error looks very logical even how a user can chroot to /scratchbox/users/user Thanks in advance. -- ...Swapnil -- ...Swapnil

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Re:SimplyMEPIS 6.5
by Easwar Hariharan 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

Hi all, Just to inform you that the CD request put up by me on the wiki for SimplyMEPIS was resolved.Thanks to Tapas. Regards, Easwar

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Phoronix] AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay(a)gmail.com> Date: Sep 17, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Phoronix] AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs To: ILUG-Cal's principal mailing list <ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjA1Mw Ending off the X Developer Summit this year, Matthew Tippett handed off ATI's GPU specifications to David Airlie on a CD (as reported by Daniel Stone). However, the specifications are also now available on the Internet! At http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/ is the location of the documentation where you can freely download the files. Right now there is the RV630 Register Reference Guide and M56 Register Reference Guide. The RV630 Reference Guide is 434 pages long while the M56 Guide is 460 pages. Expect more documentation (and 3D specifications) to arrive shortly. The new open-source R500/600 driver will be released early next week. - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG7mL/XQZpNTcrCzMRAstrAJ0ey7Qr/cv7G7MvY1wOVhIMBsy/JgCdGjIC 5UCCpQrgAn+ZZpoHl4Z68qw= =Ds2S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ilug-cal-discuss mailing list Ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org http://list.ilug-cal.org/mailman/listinfo/ilug-cal-discuss -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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[CROSS-POSTED] Fwd: Re: Free/Open Source Research
by Raj Mathur 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

Forwarding without prejudice... -- Raju ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: Free/Open Source Research Date: Monday 17 September 2007 14:34 From: "Nordine BENKELTOUM" <nordine.benkeltoum(a)ensmp.fr> To: raju(a)linux-delhi.org Hi Raju and thank you for your message, 2007/9/14, Raj Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org>: > On Friday 14 September 2007 16:08, Nordine BENKELTOUM wrote: > > Hi, > > Hi Nordine, > > Before I share with the community, can you let me know whether the > results of this study will be public or not? The result of this study will be send to each participant. My PhD thesis will be also made available in the same website. Please also let me know > your privacy policy. The information collected in this study will be exclusively used for my study. If you can resend me the original mail with these > two pieces of information added, I'd be glad to forward it as a whole > to sections of the Linux community in India. The message is below: Hi, I'm carrying out a study on Free/open source software. Given the fact that the LUGs gather specialists of this topic, could you ask your members to take part in our research project by filling in the following questionnaire available on this link : http://orthonormed.free.fr The result of this study will be send to each participant. The information collected will be exclusively used for our study. Don't hesitate to transmit the questionnaire to your colleagues or members of the communities in which you're involved. Thank you for your participation. Best Regards Nordine BENKELTOUM PhD student Center for Organization and Management Sciences Ecole des Mines de Paris Regards, > -- Raju > > > I'm carrying out a study on Free/open source software. > > > > Given the fact that the LUGs gather specialists of this topic, > > could you ask your members to take part in our research project by > > filling in the following questionnaire available on this link : > > > > http://orthonormed.free.fr > > > > Don't hesitate to transmit the questionnaire to your colleagues or > > members of the communities in which you're involved. > > > > Thank you for your participation. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Nordine BENKELTOUM > > PhD student > > Center for Organization and Management Sciences > > Ecole des Mines de Paris > > nordine.benkeltoum(a)ensmp.fr > > -- > Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org > http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || September > 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 > D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is > the mind that moves ------------------------------------------------------- -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || September 2007 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves

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Re: .. [ILUG-BOM] [Semi-commercial][Discussion] What should Microsoft do?
by jtd 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

On Friday 14 September 2007 09:51, Janani Gopalakrishnan wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to seek your views on something... > > Microsoft is criticised much by the FOSS community -- one or the > other aspect of it. Their software, their ways of doing business, > their attitude, whatever. My belief is that whenever somebody > criticises they will also have a potential solution in mind -- and > I felt, why is it that the solution aspect is barely discussed wrt > the Microsoft issue :-) Wrong. It has been discussed ad nauseum. Grep the list archives. One of the issues that came up out of discussions in the FOSS community is open standards. The result is the ODF specs for documents. > So, I am throwing this question open to > you... > > "Is there some aspect of Microsoft that you do not like? If so, > what? And more importantly, how do you think they can correct this > flaw of theirs (if you think they can)?" M$ reactions to the ODF standard is a very very nice pointer to the real problem - M$ continued quest to perpetuate an illegal monopoly by foul means, without the slightest technical merit. Solution - break the monopoly by forcing open all existing and future M$ protocols. Fine them in hard cash (not stupid vouchers) for every violation of incomplete protocol definitions. Force governments to use only open standards No software patents. These are very simple. But M$ and their microserfs specialise in dishing out crap like multiple standards are good for competition, end users will suffer, our ip will be compromised and other rubbish, to the mainstream media. The reporters who print this crap have absolutely no understanding of these issues and make no attempt to undersatnd them either. And in my opinion much of the media are biased because lack of tech knowledge AND M$ ad money. I am yet not even talking of M$ sponsored "case studies" and reports. -- Rgds JTD

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 17 Sep '07

17 Sep '07

JTD wrote:- (Parts without quotes) > > OO is not ready for use IS an attitude problem. Especially when it is contrary to my (and hughe number of other people's) experience in using both Msorifice and OO (RB) If that was the case it would sell like hot cakes. Retail vendors are always looking out for equivalent solutions. If you had bad experiences with M$ that's fine because it helps promote linux faster. But my experience with M$ users is different. They are already used to the software and after I take over the systems, their problems get eliminated steadily and they use the systems with minimum or no hanging and crashes. Everything starts running smoothly and efficiently except for hardware issues or reckless users. In the end it becomes difficult to make them change to another environment when everything works fine. Added to that are the functionality problems like the one I described. The user has been using Excel since more than 10 years and has good knowledge of its working. he went through the help docs, spent almost a day trying to get it right, but ultimately decided to stick to M$. This doesn't make me happy in any way. > M$ softwares may have more bugs, be less stable than nix based ones > but when they are in the stable working mode, at least they do the > job they are intended to do. Utter nonsense unless u include Msoriffice and Xpee crashing 10 times a day and using antivirus as great features and part of HM BG's grand architecture. (RB) This is rubbish. If M$ Office and XP crash 10 times a day, most offices will shut down. There will be chaos. Lets not get biased so much that we exaggerate. If it's a bug say it's a bug and file a report, rather than make comments that are opposite to our daily experience. I have often asked about some problem or the other about various packages and ALWAYS it's the developer (amongst others) who have responded, usually within a few hrs. and Never later than 24 hrs. So what are u yakking about? (RB) If your experience is different, good for you. My yakking highlights problems so that other people should not face them. Your extreme and biased yakking steers people away from linux. > This is in response to Krish's reply to JTD's mail and I quote... > > "actually the entire problem is that people don't realise the > values of running a script. > and by the way running a script is "nothing to do " with > programming. I think clicking on next next finish etc is not a real > good way of software setup." > > Simplifying a procedure means that one can do more work instead of > wasting time running scripts. How would we feel if we got a mobile > phone where instead of pressing buttons, we had to create and run > scripts every time we wanted to dial a number U are thouroughly confused between setting up and using. If u are setting up the phone, that is precisely what you sorely miss. If i were selling 50 phones to a courier company, imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to click innumerable buttons to setup the phone book which would be 90% common to all. (RB) GUI is just an extension of a script. The script you mentioned can be run by simply clicking a gui shortcut to it. It is all about environment. If you have to work in a terminal only environment, naturally command line and scripts is the way. If you are in a gui environment, and if the gui is created well, it would do the same functions as script.What is important is to understand the concept of the job in hand, not expertise in a particular interface. For example in the ADSL and wireless routers there is a tiny linux system running and it can be configured using scripts. However if that was the only way, how many service engineers would be able to use the command line interface? Instead, there is a gui firmware interface which only the service personnel would understand and they correctly enter the values according to the customer's environment and the gui internally creates relevant scripts and runs them. That is technology. You can't fight it simply because it makes things easy for others. There are people who are at ease with a screen full of text but there are others who feel intimidated by it and require some graphical interface to interact. This means we are being more inclusive, catering to different needs of different service persons. > or access the phone > directory or any other function. The same process is happening in > the background but the programmers have provided a beautiful > interface to simply press a button. For the unbelievably simple task of clicking a button there is a script (software) running. When u customise (like the courier company case) u script. when you annotate a schematic, the annotation is different for every schematic, but the process is exactly the same, so you script. When u perform repetititive tasks in a spread sheet you macro (which is a script). And once u create a script u can reuse it forever. Without sitting in front of a machine clicking "Beautiful Buttons". (RB) Read above reply. > If scripting is so important, > why don't we start doing all our home and office work in assembly > language or machine code? You are. > This will give us better control of the > hardware. It is up to the programmer to make software intuitive and > easy to handle. It has no relation with scripting skills of the > vendor or user. Let each one do his job properly. You could not be more wrong. While there is nothing wrong in controlling pcs with thought or hand waves or clicks, doing so repetitively is a pain. If you feel differently good for you. Just dont pretend that your subjective preferences are god's ordained rules and hence some piece of code is not ready for this or that. As you can see my subjective preferences are most definetly holier than yours. (RB) Just because you feel that your way is the only right way to do things it does not make it so. There are other good ways too. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Software Freedom day event was a grand success
by Anivar Aravind 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/2007/smc-sfd07-wide-news-coverage-in-malay… Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC) got widespread support from malayalam mainstream print media for the 2 day (14th & 15th september) software freedom day celebration & the release of 7 software packages developed during last year. It is the time to look at our history. SMC is reactivated from a dead state, as a result of personal discussions with praveen, hiran & vimaljoseph in the sidelines of GPLv3 Conference in bangalore. The new team is setup at last year SFD celebrations in Thrissur. Suresh, Baiju(the founder of SMC), Hussain KH (rachana), Anwar, Students in GEC etc also joined in the team at that time. Now we have more than 30 developers+localizers. The astounding progress within the short span of time is described below * December 2006: Debian Installer is Fully Translated into Malayalam ( The Work of Debian malayalam, a sub team of Swathanthra malayalam computing) * January 2007: Santhosh Thottingal of SMC done a complete architectural rewrite of Dhvani, the Indian language text to speech system by Ramesh hariharan & added Malayalam support to It. * March 2007 : participated & Conducted workshops in FOSS Meet@NITC, Kozhikkode * March 2007: Swathanthra Malayalam Computing selected as a participating Organisation ( and only Indian Organisation) in Google Summer of Code Project. 5 projects were allotted. * April 2007: GNU aspell supported Malayalam (major issues are resolved) * May 2007: Swanalekha: a Phonetic Input scheme for malayalam using SCIM * June 2007: Lalitha, Bolnagiri based xkb keyboard for malayalam by Jinesh * July 2007: Added pango support to Tuxtype by Mobin M as part of GSoC work. Now Tuxtype is usable for all Indian languages * July 2007:Debian package (Debconf )Translations. Malayalam is the Most translated indian language with 27% translation of configuration strings * August 2007: Malayalam Matrix screen saver Release, & First Public Release of Aspell- malayalam spellchecker with More than 137000 words list (It is the largest Indian Language Aspell wordlist. Second is hindi with 25000 words). * September 2007: Gnome Officially supports malayalam in Gnome 2.20 with More than 80% translations * September 2007: Sarika : The first Free Indian language speech recognition engine is developed by Shyam K (as a part of GsoC). It Currently identifies more than 50 malayalam words * September 2007: Tuxtype malayalam is Released by Mobin.M & friends (Vimal, Shreyas, Sreeranj, Prince) * Meera , a Malayalam Traditional opentype font with more than 900 glyphs is released under GNU GPL by Hussain K.H and Suresh P . It is developed for Suruma renderering scheme (not compatible with Uniscribe scheme for windows) . Authors are working on a Uniscribe compatible (windows) version now Pramode Sir wrote: A society and a culture is identified by its language - once the language is dead, the society starts losing its identity. A good way to keep a language alive is to take it to the digital world - the world of the PC/Communication devices and the Internet. This is one context in which developing regional language computing environments and popularising them has great significance. The theme for the 2 day event was "Swathantra Software and Malayalam computing" . Free software is touching the lives of common man now !! Digg It: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Wide_spread_coverage_for_Software_Freedom_Day_in… FSDaily: http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Wide_spread_coverage_for_Software_Freedom_…

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

Roshan wrote: Check your "Bulk" folder too. It is likely, it may have reached the bulk folder. (RB) I have set options to download bulk folder contents in POP access too. Its just that my inbox is not receiving all mails. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [Ilugc] [Semi-commercial][Discussion] What should Microsoft do?
by vivek khurana 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

On 9/14/07, Janani Gopalakrishnan <writetojanani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to seek your views on something... > > Microsoft is criticised much by the FOSS community -- one or the other > aspect of it. Their software, their ways of doing business, their attitude, > whatever. My belief is that whenever somebody criticises they will also have > a potential solution in mind -- and I felt, why is it that the solution > aspect is barely discussed wrt the Microsoft issue :-) So, I am throwing > this question open to you... Hmm.. why do you think M$ is singled out? We have companies like IBM, sun microsystems etc. respected by FOSS community. Those companies are also doing business, writing software. So why not throw the question to M$, why they are not ready to accept others ? BTW, cross posting and having discussion across multiple lists is a very bad idea. regards VK

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Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

Hello All, An OO user in Windows is facing some problems with Spreadsheet. He uses the .xls format. Problem 1: His file consists of many rows and columns. Cells in each row are related to each other. Now in Excel he can sort columns individually and during each sorting, entire rows get sorted. So after every sort, the cells in each row are the same. It is the entire row that gets sorted. In OO he can sort columns but it sorts cells in that column only and this breaks the row and ultimately the table cells get cross connected. Problem 2: In Excel, he can secure a file but allow partial changes like changing the cell background colour. This is needed as his job status indicator is colour coded as the job progresses. His employees can only change colours as they progress with the job. In OO he can secure a file but it is like ON/OFF. Once secure, no partial changes are allowed. Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

Osric Fernandes wrote:- Oops, its not a bug. Its a feature ;-) Comment from OpenOffice.org's Issue 28296: (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=28296) "this is not a bug of OOo Calc. If you use the buttons in the toolbar to sort your data, these buttons are not capable to do what you want. They are designed to do a quick Sort from A-Z, 0-9 and vice versa. (RB) Even if it does a quick sort, the cell data and cell colour should be attached to each other. I did the same in M$ Office at HBCSE and there cell colour moved with cell data. To solve your problem, mark the cell range A5:N55 and select Sort from the data menu. Make sure 'include formats' is tagged on the Options tabpage. The problem with the document supplied is that cells with formats can't be sorted if the range contains merged cells." (RB) In the figure A5:N55 what does :N55 mean? -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

Krishnakant wrote:- dear roni, why do you tend to take comments wrongly? I did not say any thing rood. (RB) If you did not intend it then choose your words carefully to avoid mis-understandings. And don't be in a hurry to bash windows users. Take your time to compose mails. rather I am stressing on the point that you did face the problem and time and time again I did say that you faced it and that it is not true that this did not happen. you can read my previous few emails to confirm this. but the fact is that without telling or instructing any one, every one did the thing in exactly the way open office had kept it. (RB) Open office itself has kept tools in the tool bar. what it means is that only use that button for a usual task of normal sorting of data. the kind of sorting where even the colour needed to be moved was there in the menu. so sun is clearly making it appear to be different. (RB) Once cell data moves under any situation, all its contents have to move together. Segregation cannot take place with a cell's data. and I don't think that JTD said any thing extreme. you seam to fail to realise that most people using m$ software just say "oh, buggs and crashes? computer hang? all this is the part of it and we have no choice ". (RB) No they don't say that. They say "Rony, after you took over, our problems have practically disappeared and we learnt a lot from your technical description of various processes that we did blindly before". I am not exaggerating, these are real comments. so people do face daily problems and my experience matches with JTD and many others. (RB) Many problems are related to third party software. Windows is only a platform. I will even add that all those professional clients of mine who r now switched to gnu/linux, they all bless me for putting them out of all daily rubbish of windows. (RB) That's great. GLUG admins please do something about my email delivery problem. Could you check your logs to see if Yahoo is giving any errors when list mails are delivered to it? Should I switch over to Yahoo India? -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Firefox users never watches movies!
by Riyaz Usman 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

It's a proven fact! In a recent research done by Indian Multiplex theaters. So they have decided to make their websites compatible only for Internet Explorer (Yeeks!). Why waste time for people who doesn't watch movies. The two best Cinemas in Hyderabad are PVR Cinemas and Prasadz Multiplex. Seems that both have worked hard to make their online ticket booking websites non-compatible with Fx. (The site only works with IE. It doesn't work with Opera, Firefox in both GNU and Windows and Epiphany and Konqueror in GNU). OK, Now that both of the sites are not working, Let me Google for other options. Found that there's a Website BookMyShow, who can do the trick. Well... Bingo! It doesn't work with Fx either. So, it's a proven fact. Firefox users doesn't watch movies. They are simply open source nerds who spends time with terminals. So, if here are some Fx users, who still watches movies in Cinemas, Please send a mail to Pradadz - prasadz(a)prasadgroup.org PVR Cinemas - feedback(a)pvrcinemas.com, support(a)pvrcinemas.com Book My Show - helpdesk(a)BookMyShow.com to have some mercy to you. -- Riyaz Usman http://riyaz.bitinc.co.in 1d:c5:fb:59:df:ec:79:88:ec:81:d9:3a:87:28:10:25

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BusinessWorld vote on ODF versus OOXML
by Venkatesh Hariharan 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

BusinessWorld magazine has an article on the recent standards battle at the Bureau of Indian Standards over Microsoft OOXML proposal. As you know, the OOXML proposal was rejected unanimously by the LITD15 committee formed by BIS to review OOXML. The ODF Alliance which includes FSF, Red Hat, IBM and Sun worked hard to ensure that OOXML was not approved. The reasons for this can be read at www.noooxml.org BusinessWorld is now running a vote on its web site asking readers: "Which documentation standard do you want to vote for?" The link for this article and the vote (see right hand top corner of the page) is: http://www.businessworld.in/content/view/2458/2536 I request all FOSS supporters to vote for ODF. Regards, Venky

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

Kiishnakant wrote: this is not to say that roni is stupid. but just to say that open office in this case implemented a feature and kept it in a place where most people are likely to search. and that is why most people got it right and could never reproduce the same effect as roni had. (RB) That was rude; Krishnakant. Watch your words. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Open Office Solution Required
by Rony 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

Hello All, I have not received any mails lately but I can see them on the glug site. This is in response to Kenneth Gonsalves's mail quoted below. "I am not laughing. What exactly is a bug? When, for example, in kword I save a file in OOo format and OOo is unable to open it, is that a bug? Or is it a failure of software - just bad software? As far as I know, the approach to writing software is to first write a use case, or all possible use cases that you can think of. Then write the software. Then write tests to cover all the above use cases, and release the software when it passes the tests. There will be unusual use cases and edge cases which are not anticipated and for which tests havent been written. Failure in these cases are bugs. But no failure in the main use-case. In the case of saving in OOo format and OOo not opening it, this is not a bug. Because it is the main usecase of the particular feature. A simple test - open an OOo file, save it in OOo format and open it in OOo would have detected this, and the feature should not have been released. Yes, bugs will be there - but when a main/common use case fails - I dont think it can be called a bug and it is no laughing matter either. I havent gone into kword code to find if there are test suites, I hope there are ..." Kenneth has echoed my thoughts exactly and put it nicely in words. Having bugs in a software is possible but after more than 5 years if a software behaves as if it was a beta and released just yesterday for the first time, then this is a flaw in the software not some mistake or attitude problem of the installing person. There is nothing hilarious about a person complaining about such grave issues in the software. The cell colour problem I had highlighted was not even connected to any proprietary file formats. It happens in Open formats. M$ softwares may have more bugs, be less stable than nix based ones but when they are in the stable working mode, at least they do the job they are intended to do. And if FOSS fans feel it is below dignity to compare libre software with M$ ones, then why is it that whenever a problem is pointed out in the libre software, they start counting the bugs in M$ ones. Why can't they except that the particular software has serious flaws that need to be corrected. Free software is no longer the free blood donation camp. Today major libre software and distro development is taking place through huge sponsorship and donations and by corporate participation. The programmers are compensated for their efforts, so while the institution is giving away the software for free, the developer is not doing any charity. Then why not expect quality work instead of a 'Fix it yourself' community kit. This is in response to Krish's reply to JTD's mail and I quote... "actually the entire problem is that people don't realise the values of running a script. and by the way running a script is "nothing to do " with programming. I think clicking on next next finish etc is not a real good way of software setup." Simplifying a procedure means that one can do more work instead of wasting time running scripts. How would we feel if we got a mobile phone where instead of pressing buttons, we had to create and run scripts every time we wanted to dial a number or access the phone directory or any other function. The same process is happening in the background but the programmers have provided a beautiful interface to simply press a button. If scripting is so important, why don't we start doing all our home and office work in assembly language or machine code? This will give us better control of the hardware. It is up to the programmer to make software intuitive and easy to handle. It has no relation with scripting skills of the vendor or user. Let each one do his job properly. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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[OT] SICP lecture video
by Mohan Nayaka 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

Hi all, I recall having heard at a LUG meet that one LUG member has the whole lecture set. Can someone burn me a DVD, starting with lecture 1a? http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/ TIA, Mohan S N -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles

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iptables setting problem
by Agnello George 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

HI I have a (website ) behind my filrewall, but cannot connect to it when my firewall is on , but when i stop my fire wall ( /etc/ini.d/iptables stop ) I am able to view my website. My firewall setting is as follows from ( /etc/sysconfig/iptables) ####################################################### Firewall configuration written by system-config-securitylevel # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0] -A INPUT -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A FORWARD -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type any -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp --dport 5353 -d 223.0.0.231 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 631 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 631 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT # Generated by webmin *mangle :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] COMMIT # Completed # Generated by webmin *nat :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] COMMIT # Completed ##################################################### What changes do i need to the above setting in order to see my website ( even if the fire wall is on ) Thanks -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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postfix : pipe daemon
by Agnello George 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

what does the pip daemon do ??--- from the doucument it mention that it send a request frm the queue manage to the an external command ..... what is this exteranal command. ?? -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Firefox blocked?
by Dinesh Joshi 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hi list, take a look at this site: http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com/ ??? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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[Semi-commercial][Discussion] What should Microsoft do?
by Janani Gopalakrishnan 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hi, I would like to seek your views on something... Microsoft is criticised much by the FOSS community -- one or the other aspect of it. Their software, their ways of doing business, their attitude, whatever. My belief is that whenever somebody criticises they will also have a potential solution in mind -- and I felt, why is it that the solution aspect is barely discussed wrt the Microsoft issue :-) So, I am throwing this question open to you... "Is there some aspect of Microsoft that you do not like? If so, what? And more importantly, how do you think they can correct this flaw of theirs (if you think they can)?" I would really appreciate it if you could share your views on this. Look forward to your response. ----------------------------------------- And before I end this email, some clarifications... (a) I was actually discussing this subject off-list with some FOSS veterans and users, when a friend suggest that I "get out of the acquarium" and throw the question open to the LUG mailing lists. Sensible! So, some of you might have already received my query on this off-list. Apologies for the repetition. (b) This post is not commercial because I am raising this discussion in an individual capacity. That said, it might end up commercial in the future... because if this discussion turns out very interesting, I wish to offer snippets to Linux For You for publication (with the permission of those I wish to quote, of course). (c) I am posting this query on more than only ILUG mailing list BUT I shall make sure the summary of the entire discussion reaches all the LUGs. If I offer it for publication, it will be available (licensed under creative commons) on the Open Content section of LFY's website openitis.com, so it will be available for all to see. If not, I will post a summary on the LUG mailing lists. ---------------------------------------- Cheers! Janani http://gjanani.googlepages.com

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BoF meet anyone?
by Philip Tellis 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Anyone up for a BoF meet this Sunday evening at 5 gardens near VJTI? Philip -- hello world

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book of postfix
by Agnello George 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Hi Does any one know where you can downlaod the pdf version of ""The book of postfix"" by Ralf Hildebrandt and Patrick Koetter thanks -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Most Basic Commands for a newbie
by Roshan 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

List, Found an article explaining the most basic commands in under Linux distributions for file management. The article is available at the following URL http://polishlinux.org/console/file-management-in-linux/ -- http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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[Announcement] BarCampMumbai2
by Raxit Sheth 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Hi, We have announced BarCampMumbai2, Link : http://barcamp.org/BarCampMumbai2 Venue : SOM-IIT Bombay Date : 13 Oct 2007 Please visit the link for more details, -Raxit Sheth http://barcamp.org/BarCampMumbai2 <----BarCampMumbai2

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remote MYSQL connection error
by Agnello George 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Hi i am trying to connet to a mysql databse whose servers IP is( 203.1123.28.111 ) from a remote PC and get the following errors [root@server ~]# mysql -h 203.1123.28.111 -u root -p Enter password: ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on 203.1123.28.111 (113) Also on the server i cannot stop the firewall setting cuse of security reasons ..... most of the help on line say that the problem is resolved if the server's fire wall is disabled . Does any one have any ideas how to get around this !!! -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Re:Linux workshop at Thadomal Shahani COE Techfest
by Easwar Hariharan 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

> > How is this OT? Maybe not,but I tend to err on the side of caution..... ;) If nobody's involved,I think we SHOULD be involved! Regards, Easwar

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postfix query
by Agnello George 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Hi Al I have a postfix server and have a query on its functioning : What is the difference between Local Delivery Agent ( LDA ) and virtual delivery agent ... Do these two daemons work simultaneously.In my main.cffile i have thne following statements #virtual_transport=virtual ....... does this men that the LDA is not running. ?? My second question is what is spawn then following is an extract i got from the net , but if some one can give me a an explination in a more understandable language ( spawn The spawn process creates non-Postfix processes on request. It listens on a TCP port, Unix domain socket, or FIFO connected to the standard input, output, and error streams. ) thanks -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] Fedora India Mailing list
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay(a)gmail.com> Date: Sep 12, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: [Ilug-cal-discuss] Fedora India Mailing list To: ILUG-Cal's principal mailing list <ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi We now have a new mailing list available at http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india for communication and collaboration between a growing list of Indian contributors to the Fedora Project. We intend to use this mailing list for increasing and strengthening the existing contributors and contributions from India, mentoring, promoting Fedora, event coordination and regional help. If you are a contributor or interested in being one, be it Packaging, Documentation, L10N or anything else, join in and say Hi. If you are a end user interested in the discussions, you are welcome too. :Sankarshan - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG52zKXQZpNTcrCzMRAo4FAJ9Neg/aXujWwffn9Dvfyrm5I7JyNACgwiJA AeitpYrOZfmcQ/gU8g3IMtE= =yzTI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ilug-cal-discuss mailing list Ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org http://list.ilug-cal.org/mailman/listinfo/ilug-cal-discuss -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Colour on the command line
by Kumar Appaiah 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Dear Linuxers, This page has some nice tips on colourifying your XTerms: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Colour_on_the_command_line Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

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postfix question !!!
by Agnello George 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

what is the difference between SMTPD server and smtp client ??? -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[([OT])squared]Linux workshop at Thadomal Shahani COE Techfest
by Easwar Hariharan 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hi all, Today I found out that the techfest being held at Thadomal Shahani Engineering College on Sept 30,Oct 2 and Oct 7 includes a Linux workshop as part of their workshops and seminars apart from the usual robotics,C/C++ competitions,LAN gaming,etc.Just a little curious,I decided to find who's holding the workshop....turned out to be a prof of the college supported by volunteers.What I want to know now is that Is any of our list members among the organizers/Supporters/material providers of this workshop? Regards, Easwar

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[JOB] Web Consultant (JSP/Servlets/SEO/Payment Gateways)
by Rohan Dighe 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

CodeWalla, based in Pune , India , is a young group of passionate product developers, focusing on gaming and digital media delivery. The founders of CodeWalla have over 2 decades of product development experience in Games, realtime Graphics (2d-3d) and digital media delivery systems. Designation Part-time Web Consultant Job Description The consultant will be part of a web2.0 project. Responsibilities include: * Help in Module design * Code reviews * Guide testing ( we follow agile development) * Participating in design and review meetings Desired Profile * Hands on experience on JSP/servlets * Should have very good web design skills. * Candidate must have knowledge of Seach Engine Optimization (SEO) * Candidate should have hands on experience on payment gateways (PAYPAL,etc) Experience 2+ Industry Type Software Services Functional Area IT Software Education UG - Any Graduate - Any Specialization Remuneration Best in industry Location Pune Contact Mr. Rohan Dighe (+919890326596) CODEWALLA SOFTWARE DEVELOPEMENT PVT LTD Telephone (20)40044120 Email rohan.d(a)codewalla.com Website http://www.codewalla.com -- Rohan Dighe Fedora Ambassador India. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RohanDighe -- You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother. -- Albert Einstein

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postfix: PPT
by Agnello George 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hi Does an one have a PPT presentation on how postfix works -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[ILUG-BOM] How-to: Configuring Kate to compile C, C++, Java programs
by Roshan 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

List, I have created a How-to on configuring Kate to compile and/or run C, C++ and Java programs. The URL is http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Compile_C_CPP_and_Java_programs_using… BASH scripting is used here and if there are users on the list who use a different shell and can add commands for (compartively popular) shells other than BASH, please feel free to do so. Explanations for the script are provided at the end of the document. They may not be complete and /may/ require corrections. If you locate any errors, please correct them. If one could put up a simple explanation of parameter expansion (PE) (the list archive has it) with respect to the script used, please do so. I'll be adding details about PE soon. (Wonder, if this could get into KDE docs of Kate as well, Docbook programmers around? ;) /Yes, too much !)) -- http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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{Commercial} Trainers for Jhoomla / Drupal needed
by Vinayakam Murugan 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

Hello all My friend Sunil Sharda (http://www.advan-t-edge.net / advantedge(a)gmail.com) is looking for someone who can train his employees in Jhoomla / Drupal. Please contact him offline in case you know somebody who can do that. -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't borrow someone else's spectacles to view yourself with ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Setting up PPPoE connection on Debian
by osric fernandes 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

Hi list, I'm using a PPPoE connection to connect to my ISP - worldnet. (it's what's commonly referred to as "cablewalla ka net"). Under Windows I use the RASPPPOE protocol. I've been able to connect to it under Fedora using the nice "system-config-networking" tool. Under Debian I couldn't find any GUI tool. There is a command-line tool called "pppoeconf". I've performed the steps given on this site: http://users.pandora.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm The strange thing is that although this utility prompts for username and password, it doesn't give an option to select the Access-Concentrator and Service-Provider name. (The list of service-providers and access-concentrators can be obtained using pppoe-discovery). This is what I get in the system log: Sep 8 11:06:50 localhost pppd[3973]: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Sep 8 11:06:50 localhost pppd[3974]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 Sep 8 11:06:51 localhost pppd[3974]: PPP session is 43360 Sep 8 11:06:51 localhost pppd[3974]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 8 11:06:51 localhost pppd[3974]: Connect: ppp0 <--> eth0 Sep 8 11:06:52 localhost pppd[3974]: Remote message: Login incorrect Sep 8 11:06:52 localhost pppd[3974]: PAP authentication failed Sep 8 11:06:52 localhost pppd[3974]: Connection terminated. Sep 8 11:07:22 localhost pppd[3974]: PPP session is 152 Sep 8 11:07:22 localhost pppd[3974]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 8 11:07:22 localhost pppd[3974]: Connect: ppp0 <--> eth0 Sep 8 11:07:27 localhost pppd[3974]: CHAP authentication failed: I don't like you. Go 'way. Sep 8 11:07:27 localhost pppd[3974]: CHAP authentication failed Sep 8 11:07:27 localhost pppd[3974]: Connection terminated. The username and password were correctly entered. I have checked that multiple times. Are those authentication failures generated because it is attempting to connect to other access-providers? Any suggestions to get me connected? -- Regards OSRIC XAVIER FERNANDES

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DEBUGGING CONTROL ???
by Agnello George 08 Sep '07

08 Sep '07

this is the explaination of DEBUGGING CONTROL The debug_peer_level parameter specifies the increment in verbose logging level when an SMTP client or server host name or address matches a pattern in the debug_peer_list parameter. debug_peer_level = 2 but wat does it really do ????? -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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mailing list feature ??
by Agnello George 08 Sep '07

08 Sep '07

does any one know if the default psotfix installation have a mailing list feature and if so how do one enable it ???.... how wud it work with postfixadmin ?? -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] installing fedora 7 through LAN
by bimal pandit 08 Sep '07

08 Sep '07

Dear Mukesh, On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 mukesh yadav wrote : >hi, > i want to install >FC 7 in my college PC....the problem i'm facing here is that in my >college's LAN there is >only one computer which got Combo Drive.. and i want to install it >in another PC. >I have heard thet we can install through LAN or from harddisk but i dont >know the procedure.. >please tell me the procedure step by step. >-- Yes, you can do it, its called network installation, in which you have the following three options as... 1) FTP 2) HTTP 3) NFS for all of these you need to setup a server(any of the above), which has all the packages in fact you could dump your CD/DVD content in a directory on that server, make a bootable media like CD, boot your client and then for installation method select any of the above(that you had already set up),give server IP/Name, directory(of packages) and thats all. hope this will be of some help. regards, Bimal Pandit

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[OT] You are being watched.
by Easwar Hariharan 08 Sep '07

08 Sep '07

> > I am curious to know, how do search engines get user details when a > person uses the search facility. Normally only the IP address of the > computer is available and that too changes dynamically. So except for > city location of the computer, how do they know the user details? Er,cookies?? Regards, Easwar

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[CROSS-POST]: Cursor theme selection disables GUI
by Roshan 07 Sep '07

07 Sep '07

List, I was trying out cursor themes in Kubuntu and changed it to a theme that was called "X Cursor themes" or so. I selected it and logged out to set the current cursor theme as "X cursor theme". However, the file seems to be missing and Kubuntu disables starting X because, it is unable to find the file. I'm clueless about which file it (cursor) has manipulated that instructs it to load the cursor when it has to start the GUI. Alternatively, if it is possible, can I change the cursor them from the CLI? I tried disabling the InputDevice (mouse, cursor) by commenting them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that mouse is disabled and then, I could just reset the cursor theme, but that fails as well. TIA. -- http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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postfix: postfix command
by Agnello George 07 Sep '07

07 Sep '07

Hi All I have a postfix mailserver which connnect to the databes to delever email, i am currently useng postfix admin to creat the user , if however i dont want to use a post fix admin, how wud i manually create virtual users, aliases and domains, and also mailing list. Pls if any one knows could you provide me this information with a an example -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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Fwd: [barcampmumbai] Barcamp Mumbai 2
by Dinesh Shah 07 Sep '07

07 Sep '07

H! List, Just though that some of the Mumbai LUGers would like to pitch in? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arpit Agarwal <arpit105 .at. yahoo .dot. com> Date: Sep 5, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: [barcampmumbai] Barcamp Mumbai 2 To: Barcamp Mumbai <barcampmumbai(a)yahoogroups.com> Hi All, Some of you might have been caught unawares but a few of us have recently gotten together to host another Barcamp in Mumbai. We have been successful in booking two halls (SOM Seminar Hall and Institute Audi) in SJMSOM, IIT Bombay for Oct 13, 2007! It is now up to all of us to get our hands together and make it a successful Barcamp! Do you know someone who can pitch for sponsorships? And do you have media (mainstream/otherwise) contacts to get this message across? Is yes, please try to push this through. I am working on the Wiki and a basic page will be up soon. Let's rock it this time! Cheers, Arpit PS: In case you were wondering, I have been involved in organization of 3 barcamps at Bangalore. People who have been to a BCB would know me. I have recently relocated to join SJMSOM at IIT Bombay. So, I was wondering why NOT another Barcamp in Mumbai. Hence this. ------------------------------ Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click here for happy ending.<http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_3/*http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mai…> __._,_.___ Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barcampmumbai/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnOHQ5dGxtBF9TA…>(Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest<barcampmumbai-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email+Delivery:+Digest>| Switch to Fully Featured<barcampmumbai-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change+Delivery+Format:+Fully+Featured> Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barcampmumbai;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZTFjY2ZrBF9TAzk3ND…>| Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> | Unsubscribe <barcampmumbai-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> __,_._,___ -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Join the Revolution!

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Problem setting date in debian "testing" with KDE 3.5
by Pradnyesh Sawant 07 Sep '07

07 Sep '07

Hello, I have a peculiar problem with my system date. I'm using debian "testing" with KDE 3.5. When i set the date, either through the KDE control center, or through the backend using the "date" command (as root ofcourse), it gets reset everytime i reboot my m/c. Btw, i have a hp (Compaq nc6400) lappy. Actually, the problem seems to be with the locale. In control center, if i set the time, with the locale, after a reboot, the same time is shown as UTC. Whereas, if i set the UTC time through the "date command" (i don't know how to pass locale to date command, so i'm assuming that it sets the UTC time), then after reboot, the UTC time itself moves 5.5 hrs ahead :( Thanks a lot in advance. regards, Pradnyesh.

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postfix : postmap comman eror
by Agnello George 07 Sep '07

07 Sep '07

Hi I have a issue here, i have a postfix server that uses mapping files to query the database. In my senerio i have a domain called niteshn.info. and i have a mapping file in /etc/postfix called mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf which ahs the following content --> user = postfix password = postfix hosts = 127.0.0.1 dbname = postfix query = SELECT goto FROM alias WHERE address='%s' AND active = 1 In my main.cf file i have a entry -----> virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf When i query this database with the postmap command i get the following error : postmap -q -v "@niteshn.info" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf (enter) postmap: fatal: open database @niteshn.info.db: No such file or directory how do i check is my mapping files work??? -- Warm Regards Agnello . G .Dsouza

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[CROSS-POST] [ANNOUCE]: KDE 4.0 Beta 2 Released!
by Roshan 06 Sep '07

06 Sep '07

List, KDE 4.0 Beta 2 has been released. The screen-shots really look superb! I'm waiting for KDE 4 :) Read it here: http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta2.php -- http://www.gnu.org.in ubunturos @ freenode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html

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