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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

On Wednesday 27 April 2005 13:55, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > > just curious. how much those power book G4 cost? i checked apple > > India, there they say its around Rs.1 lakh and more. are these > > really all that costly? or there is something like lamington raod > > for mac where i can afford to buy one. > > http://store.apple.com/ > > And yes, Macs cost a lot more than a cheap PC. But if you are > looking at a branded higher end laptop, then the cost is > equivalent. Imo the internal engineering is magnificent (heretics call it over engineered), and an equally engineered intel box would hypothetically cost twice as much as an Imac.

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impact of "search" in resolv.conf
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Dear Vaibhav, As far I know, For example if U add this in /etc/resolv.conf search redhat.com it would mean that when U want to place a query like ping mail.redhat.com due to the addition of the search keyword in resov.conf U could just type ping mail it would automatically ping mail.redhat.com Due to the ' search ' keyword it appends queried hostname to the domain mentioned next to search to every query U make Correct me If I am wrong ... Always waiting to upgrade myself .. Hope I am of some Help Regards, Shailesh Vaibahv wrote : --------------------------------------------------- Hi All, This sure is a too fundamental a question, and I could not get an understandable answer, hence I am seeking help here. What is the meaning of "search foo.com" & "domain foo.com" in resolv.conf resolv.conf contains a list of NS <as provided by ISPs> which will do domain to IP lookup... so then what will searched on foo.com ?? Diff. betwee search foo.com & domains foo.com Trying to set my fundas correct... No flames pls. Thank you. Vai ======================================================= =================================================================== They say LOVE is BLIND ................. But MARRIAGE is definitely an EYE OPENER ??? =================================================================== ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Problems Running "Downloader 4 X"
by Shreyas Phadnis 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

stonecold:/home/acewin # d4x (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_clip_rectangle: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (g c)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_line: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_line: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_line: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_line: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_clip_rectangle: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (g c)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_clip_rectangle: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (g c)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_point: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_point: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_point: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_point: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed (d4x:29424): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_clip_rectangle: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (g c)' failed Segmentation fault stonecold:/home/acewin #

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impact of "search" in resolv.conf
by vaibhav samant 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Hi All, This sure is a too fundamental a question, and I could not get an understandable answer, hence I am seeking help here. What is the meaning of "search foo.com" & "domain foo.com" in resolv.conf resolv.conf contains a list of NS <as provided by ISPs> which will do domain to IP lookup... so then what will searched on foo.com ?? Diff. betwee search foo.com & domains foo.com Trying to set my fundas correct... No flames pls. Thank you. Vai

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by Abhishek Daga 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

> wxPython works on all linux distros - install it from source. If it > gives seg faults, it means it is not properly installed. To test > wxpython installation, download the wxpython demo and try to run it. > If the demo doesnt work then you need to fix the wxpython > installation. > -- > regards > kg > OK: So tried installing wxPython. (on an FC3) wxPython2.6-devel-gtk2-ansi-2.6.0.0-fc2_py2.3.i386.rpm Failed dependencies: wxPython2.6-gtk2-ansi = 2.6.0.0 is needed by (i installed this) WxPython2.6-devel-gtk2-ansi-2.6.0.0-fc2_py2.3.i386 Failed depedencies: wxPython-common-gtk2-unicode-2.5.5.1-fc2_py2.3.i386.rpm (installed this) But when i try and install wxPython2.5-devel-* i continue to get the message as above. wxPython2.6-gtk2-ansi = 2.6.0.0 is needed by wxPython2.6-devel-gtk2-ansi-2.6.0.0-fc2_py2.3.i386 Any clues? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[info] Make the Switch to Novell Linux Desktop 9 – FREE self-study guide
by SeekingGyan 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

To help you make the most of what is likely your first experience with an Open Source desktop, Novell has developed a comprehensive self-study guide to help you get up and running smoothly and effectively on the NEW Novell Linux Desktop 9. This is a PDF guide free for download and distribution http://www.novell.com/training/train_product/nld.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Database [OT]
by Abhishek Daga 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

--- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > On Thursday 28 April 2005 12:53, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > On Thursday 28 Apr 2005 1:49 am, Keith Fernandez wrote: > > > Disclaimer > > > information in this mail is confidential and is intended solely > > > for the addressee. Access to this mail by anyone else is > > > unauthorized. Any copying or further distribution beyond the > > > original recipient is not intended and may be unlawful. The > > > opinion expressed in this mail is that of the sender and do not > > > necessarily reflect that of Reliance" > > The last line is necessary methinks, considering various opinions > being expressed by members of Reliance, which of necessity do > not reflect those of the other opinions being so expressed. > > > > > please dont send me confidential mail - i cant be trusted > > That qualifies you as a recipient - you might even be invited to > express an opinion ;-) > > rgds > jtd > haha.. and ouch! that was way below the belt. i am sure many are squirming in their seats. and some in high offices. Schadenfreude. si? :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Database [OT]
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

On Thursday 28 April 2005 16:43, Abhishek Daga wrote: > --- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > On Thursday 28 April 2005 12:53, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > On Thursday 28 Apr 2005 1:49 am, Keith Fernandez wrote: > > > > Disclaimer > > > > information in this mail is confidential and is intended > > > > solely for the addressee. Access to this mail by anyone else > > > > is unauthorized. Any copying or further distribution beyond > > > > the original recipient is not intended and may be unlawful. > > > > The opinion expressed in this mail is that of the sender and > > > > do not necessarily reflect that of Reliance" > > > > The last line is necessary methinks, considering various opinions > > being expressed by members of Reliance, which of necessity do > > not reflect those of the other opinions being so expressed. > > > > > please dont send me confidential mail - i cant be trusted > > > > That qualifies you as a recipient - you might even be invited to > > express an opinion ;-) > > > > rgds > > jtd > > haha.. > and ouch! that was way below the belt. i am sure many are squirming > in their seats. and some in high offices. > Schadenfreude. si? Nope. But then some miseries naturally follow others - like opinions following Reliance mcap which boils faster than oil prices from 40000 cr. to 100000 cr (at least in the press releases). At this rate we should hand over ourselves the Ambanis who will have eliminated poverty in a jiffy. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Database [OT]
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

On Thursday 28 April 2005 12:53, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 28 Apr 2005 1:49 am, Keith Fernandez wrote: > > Disclaimer > > information in this mail is confidential and is intended solely > > for the addressee. Access to this mail by anyone else is > > unauthorized. Any copying or further distribution beyond the > > original recipient is not intended and may be unlawful. The > > opinion expressed in this mail is that of the sender and do not > > necessarily reflect that of Reliance" The last line is necessary methinks, considering various opinions being expressed by members of Reliance, which of necessity do not reflect those of the other opinions being so expressed. > > please dont send me confidential mail - i cant be trusted That qualifies you as a recipient - you might even be invited to express an opinion ;-) rgds jtd

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[Commercial] Job Openings for Programmers and DBA's
by OSPOnline 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Greetings Everybody, We have immediate openings for the following postions: 1. Programmers: having atleast 2 yrs experience in C, C++ programming on Linux 2. Programmers: having atleast 1 yr experience in LAMP (PHP/Perl) 3. DBA's Those interested may send their profiles to admin(a)ospians.com or jobs(a)pearlconsultants.com at the earliest. Regards, Aishwarya

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help for Qmail
by Pramila 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Dinesh J Dalvi <ddlinux(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: Hi I'm using qmail as SMTP Server, From client side when I send msg. it shows msg. gone. but not reaches to destination. I don't know where msg. going. What is this problem, Can anyone help me? Dinesh Dalvi Please send log file so that we can guess what is problem Pramila -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Help for Qmail
by Dinesh J Dalvi 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Hi I'm using qmail as SMTP Server, From client side when I send msg. it shows msg. gone. but not reaches to destination. I don't know where msg. going. What is this problem, Can anyone help me? Dinesh Dalvi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

On Monday 25 April 2005 18:07, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Monday 25 Apr 2005 5:32 pm, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > extract of avsap.py in the avsap-1.1042.tgz shows version 1.10 > > true. but the line you complain off is not there in the file: > > from wxPython.wx import * Could you please download the sourceforge tarball and check. I am sure that the offending line IS there. Double Checked by downloading the file from http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/avsap/avsap-1.1042.tgz. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Database
by Abhishek Daga 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

--- Raj Shaz <rajshas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi grp.. > > I want to know any good lite database for a stadalone PC , lite and > fast. I want to manage a small chores of my work as soft copy and > refer to them on computer ... > Depends on your platform. If you use windows then Access is a good choice. There is also mysql. if you are on linux or *nix then mysql or postgresql are good choices too. you may be laying too much emphasis on Fast. if all you want to do is "manage a small chores of your work as soft copy" then even the slowest database would be fast enough for you. HTH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] MTNL TriBand DSL service
by Arun Khan 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Every now and then the MTNL DSL service goes south - cannot browse the web, DNS look up fails etc. - basically no IP traffic goes out of the DSL router. To recover, I have to power cycle the DLink modem 502T. I understand that some of you with the service, may be experiencing the similar problems. What kind of symptoms do you experience? What action on your part recovers the link? Pls. let me know. Send your info off this list (mailto:arunkha@gmail.com). I will collect feedback from all and forward them to the MTNL engineers (I happen to know one). Thx, akk

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1) Open Source Accounting Package 2) FreeBSD Forums
by Abhishek Daga 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

I recently spoke to a sales rep of a linux based accounting app but saw it too was too binding. Maybe it's not their fault, maybe i never clearly expressed by specs. I am looking for a platform independent accounting application, built around open source components. The linux based accounting App was not only NOT OS but also tied to a particular platform. No can do. theoretically i should be able to run it on Windows, FreeBSD, Xandros, RH9, FC3 (both client and server) So... Maybe a webbased accounting app with a mysql/postgreSQL backend seems to be the only solution for now. and it should be openSource ofcourse. It's a bummer that a web based app would mean doing away with the function keys. (true? false?) a) It seems that K.G. has a comprehensive open source accounting package out there, which could do with some testing, development and other help from the domain experts as well as technical folks. I am sure some of our CA linuxers can join in? as well as some technical folks? If there are others too developing their own open source apps and would like to pool in resources, maybe we should get together and see how history can be made? any takers? Question 2: Would this be the right forum for posting FreeBSD questions? am setting up a freeBSD box for some stress testing to compare performance with a RH9 box. -abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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How to get the creation date of a file
by Vidyadutt S 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Hello All Is there any way to retrieve the creation date of a file? The "ls -l" command shows date, but once the file is modified, the date shown is the modification date. Is it possible to get the creation date in any way? Regards S. Vidyadutt -- "This e-mail message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. The recipient acknowledges that ICICI Bank or its subsidiaries and associated companies, (collectively "ICICI Group"), are unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the integrity of/over the contents of the information contained in e-mail transmissions and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and no binding nature of the message shall be implied or assumed unless the sender does so expressly with due authority of ICICI Group.Before opening any attachments please check them for viruses and defects."

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] How to get the creation date of a file
by Abhishek Daga 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

--- Dinesh Joshi <dinesh_pro(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >From: "Vidyadutt S" <vidyadutt.s(a)ext.icicibank.com> > > >Hello All > > > >Is there any way to retrieve the creation date of a file? The "ls -l" > >command shows date, but once the file is modified, the date shown is the > >modification date. Is it possible to get the creation date in any way? > > Are you blind or something? I think you've been told to remove the legal > notice atleast a 100 times! Do you want us to report you to ICICI for > leaking internal info? > maybe it's added as a signature by their exchange server and they have no control over it. like Yahoo adding those Ad lines. What he/she can do is start using a webmail account as suggested by someone else. maybe they do not have access to the web or restricted access from their offices? hey maybe they should come out with cool Linux branded credit cards to redeem themselves. and given that its all about free and open source, they shoudlnt charge us for it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to get the creation date of a file
by Abhishek Daga 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

> > > No. Please turn off the legal notice, or use a webmail account or > > something. > > > > Or should a LI* style policy of moderating and banning legal > > disclaimers be instituted? > > I think a ban is called for. Wonder why the onus is on the recipient, > when the parent organisation has no control over it's content or employees. > > rgds > jtd Unless ofcourse ICICIBank can offer free for life 0% APR credit cards and no minimum balance accounts and sponsorship for the avsap project for putting up with the disclaimer and legal notice. which is hilarious in anycase. i am supposed to delete the message AND inform the sender? imagine if all the 700 LUG members respond to the message saying that it was not intended for them and as per your instructions, they are letting the sender know. That would get the message across. (no pun intended). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by Abhishek Daga 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

--- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > On Wednesday 27 April 2005 13:55, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > > > > just curious. how much those power book G4 cost? i checked apple > > > India, there they say its around Rs.1 lakh and more. are these > > > really all that costly? or there is something like lamington raod > > > for mac where i can afford to buy one. > > > > http://store.apple.com/ > > > > And yes, Macs cost a lot more than a cheap PC. But if you are > > looking at a branded higher end laptop, then the cost is > > equivalent. > > Imo the internal engineering is magnificent (heretics call it over > engineered), and an equally engineered intel box would hypothetically > cost twice as much as an Imac. Why travel in a luxury bus when your car or bike suffices? It may be super engineered by factor of 2 for 1.25 times the price, but the question is does he need that much? right now? Why carry a water tanker when all you need is a water bottle? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to get the creation date of a file
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

On Wednesday 27 April 2005 13:57, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 27/04/05 10:04 +0530, Vidyadutt S wrote: > > Hello All > > > > Is there any way to retrieve the creation date of a file? The "ls > No. Please turn off the legal notice, or use a webmail account or > something. > > Or should a LI* style policy of moderating and banning legal > disclaimers be instituted? I think a ban is called for. Wonder why the onus is on the recipient, when the parent organisation has no control over it's content or employees. rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] - Linux Book for beginners
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

>You might also want to read this eBook. >"Knowing Knoppix" >http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/Documentation/knowing-knoppix_2004-12-30.pdf Thanks Anurag, I just went up a level into the parent folder and am still reeling from the amount of info there. I'm bookmarking this. Gishu

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Sarge on AMD64
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Just what the patient needed http://lwn.net/Articles/133448/ rgds jtd

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how to install pgsql on Linux (Redhat9)
by mohan 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Hi there, I have a simple Query. My activity is to install pgsql on Linux Redhat9. However I installed postgresql-7.3.2.tar.gz like this.. [root]# cd /usr/local/src [root]# gzip -cd postgresql-7.3.2.tar.gz | tar xvf - [root]# cd postgresql-7.3.2 [root]# ./configure [root]# make [root]# make install [root]# adduser postgres [root]# mkdir /usr/local/pgsql/data [root]# chown postgres /usr/local/pgsql/data [root]# touch /var/log/pgsql [root]# chown postgres /var/log/pgsql But when I run the following command [root@localhost root]# su postgres [postgres@localhost root]$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data FATAL: data directory "/usr/local/pgsql/data" has group or world access DETAIL: Permissions should be u=rwx (0700). [postgres@localhost root]$ I am facing the above the Above Erroris there anybody to Help me. And can I install pgsql through RPM ?? if yes plz give me Detail step by step Infofor that.. I waiting for Reply ASAP. Thanks in Advance.

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X Window System - Controlling a remote client with local keyboard and mouse
by Binulal Narayanan 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Hello: Is there anyway to controlling a remote client with local keyboard and mouse. I have started a remote x app on a remote display. Is there anyway I can controll that applciation using the local keyboard and mouse. I'm particularly interested in knowing if any XF86config tweaks can be done in this regard. Have anybody tried this before? Thanks in advance Binulal Narayanan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by Ninad Bapat 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

Hi I am going to retain the old pc (IBM branded PC celeron 500 64mb RAM) The new non intel PC will be used as a desktop PC and will be networked to the old pc through a crossover cable. Although I would like a MAC but it is ruled out. I have decided on AMD. which processor and motherboard will be the best combo. Any further suggestions are also welcome Thanks Ninad

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by Vickram Crishna 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

At 10:14 AM +0530 4/26/05, Devdas Bhagat wrote: >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:01:09 +0530 >From: Devdas Bhagat <devdas(a)dvb.homelinux.org> >Subject: >On 25/04/05 17:13 +0500, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >> On Monday 25 April 2005 16:43, Abhishek Daga wrote: >> > > Which is the best non intel PC config. any links would also be > > > > helpful. This PC will be used to run Linux predominantly > > > there are AMD based systems and then there are the mean Mac >> > Machines. Which pretty much leaves you with AMD or AMD. Now that >> > was just the processor motherboard part. >> >> He asked for the best. It is non intel but that is stating the >> obvious. Apple - iMac G5. Ofcourse u have to be rich or seriously >> religious to buy one. > >Depending on what your PC does. I personally would find a dual Opteron >much more useful. Or maybe an UltraSparc, or an Alpha. Worst case, a >Power processor. Power PC is the old name for the G series of processors that Mac now uses. The iMac range is not terribly overpriced, but in any case it is no longer the most cost-effective option for Abhishek. That is the Mac Mini, which is a small box containing motherboard and HDD with DVD combo RW drive and a host of connectors for monitor, keyboard, mouse and network peripherals (standard IBM PC type peripherals work, so you can use your existing monitor, keyboard and mouse). It starts at under $500 (please check the Apple Store at www.apple.com for official India prices) and I am told there are already deals at other sites for better prices - check your local hardware market. You need to add Bluetooth or WiFi cards, which are extra. Doc Nagarjuna uses Gnome on his G4 laptop and so do a host of other users here in India, many on this list, who have remained silent for some unfathomable reason. The Mac Mini ought to satisfy the needs of any power Linux user. -- Vickram

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] problem
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

>how to run exe file on red hat linux? AFAIK There is no "exe" file in linux. What you do have is files with the rwx (read write execute) attributes. So if the execute bit is set and you have access to the file, you can run the file by just typing in the filename at the shell prompt Gishu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

On Tuesday 26 April 2005 00:01, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 25/04/05 17:13 +0500, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > On Monday 25 April 2005 16:43, Abhishek Daga wrote: > > > > Which is the best non intel PC config. any links would also > > > > be helpful. This PC will be used to run Linux predominantly > > > > > > You have a wide selection out there. > > > there are AMD based systems and then there are the mean Mac > > > Machines. Which pretty much leaves you with AMD or AMD. Now > > > that was just the processor motherboard part. > > > > He asked for the best. It is non intel but that is stating the > > obvious. Apple - iMac G5. Ofcourse u have to be rich or > > seriously religious to buy one. > > Depending on what your PC does. I personally would find a dual > Opteron much more useful. Or maybe an UltraSparc, or an Alpha. > Worst case, a Power processor. Agreed. But would a Sparc or Alpha qualify as a PC. The Sparc arch has a reputation for unbelievable reliability. But then would be overkill sitting on a desk. I am planing on buying an Optetron single processor mobo- Tyan has some models which are highly recommended. The problem is 64bit pci cards at 133mhz. Cant find any here. Using regular pci cards will simply bring everthing to square one. rgds jtd

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A magazine for GNU/Linux newbies
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:58:35 CST From: "TUX magazine" <carlie(a)ssc.com> Subject: A magazine for Linux newbies TUX, www.tuxmagazine.com, is the first and only magazine for the new Linux user. Within each digital edition of TUX, we explore every facet of the modern Linux desktop, providing a new breed of Linux user with the tools and information to make their Linux desktop experience complete. Subscriptions are FREE! Sign up today, http://www.tuxmagazine.com/subscribe . TUX, published monthly as an easy to read PDF, provides informative user columns with rich, graphical content and covers everything for home, work, and play. TUX provides Linux users with easy to understand tutorials, insightful hardware and software reviews, enlightened opinion, useful tips and tricks, and in-depth exploration of the tools computer users need every day. Our style is hands-on, welcoming and non-threatening, speaking in a jargon-free style that everybody can understand. TUX recognizes that a new breed of Linux user is emerging, the Linux consumer, whose needs are an opportunity waiting to be addressed, further recognizing that this new Linux user is a powerful and rapidly growing economic force. The new Linux user is a well educated computer user and technology enthusiast who uses computers every day and in nearly every facet of their everyday life. Life with computers doesn't stop at the office. They see their systems as communication centers, productivity tools, game machines, planners and personal digital assistants, learning mechanisms and more. TUX understands that as a desktop user at both home and work, these new Linux users write letters with their word processor, calculate budgets in a spreadsheet, talk to their co-workers, clients, and friends around the world using email, instant messaging, and video conferencing. They listen to music and watch videos. They rip songs and burn CDs to listen to in their cars. They play games of all kinds. They balance their checkbooks, surf the web, organize photographs, make home movies, doodle, send pictures to relatives... or to put it another way, this new Linux user does everything with their computers that computers can do. Tux is dedicated to fulfilling the needs of this new Linux user, the Linux consumer. If you're interested in learning more about TUX's editorial mission, submitting a product for review, advertising, learning more about writing for the digital magazine, or simply would like further information, please e-mail us at info(a)tuxmagazine.com. TUX magazine is published by SSC (www.ssc.com), publishers of Linux Journal. ########################################################################## # Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: cola(a)stump.algebra.com # # PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. # # This group is archived at http://stump.algebra.com/~cola/ # ##########################################################################

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

On Monday 25 April 2005 16:43, Abhishek Daga wrote: > > Which is the best non intel PC config. any links would also be > > helpful. This PC will be used to run Linux predominantly > > You have a wide selection out there. > there are AMD based systems and then there are the mean Mac > Machines. Which pretty much leaves you with AMD or AMD. Now that > was just the processor motherboard part. He asked for the best. It is non intel but that is stating the obvious. Apple - iMac G5. Ofcourse u have to be rich or seriously religious to buy one. rgds jtd

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Gaming session on 27th April
by Amish Munshi 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

Hello All, Please circulate this mail to anyone who might be interested. It is important to register online at the URL for everyone who wants to attend the event. Onward Novell has arranged for a session on Gaming on Linux. Attend a 2 hour session on gaming with Linux and enjoy SUSE Linux with Novell. Topics : Gaming on SUSE Linux (Level Intermediate) This month Novell offers the fun and adventure on SUSE Linux. Its time for a break from the Work@Linux and entertain yourself and your friends with amazing games available on SUSE Linux. Speaker - Rajeev R K. Venue : Onward Novell Software (I) Pvt. Ltd. 62, 13th Street, MIDC, Andheri (East) Mumbai, 400093 India +91-09820931263 Duration : 5:30 - 8:00 PM Date : April 27, 2005 Registration : Limited seats are available, please register at the following URL at the earliest. There is no charge for attending the event. http://www.novell.com/offices/asiapac/india/linux/registration.html Regards Amish K. Munshi Consultant Onward Novell Software ( I ) Pvt. Ltd. Ph + 91 22 2834 2244 Fx + 91 22 2831 1277 amunshi(a)novell.com Novell Inc., the leading provider of Net business solutions. Onward Novell Software (I) Ltd. is the Joint Venture Company between Onward Group and Novell Inc. www.novell.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 1) Open Source Accounting Package 2) FreeBSD Forums
by Abhishek Daga 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

--- Satya <ilugbom(a)thesatya.com> wrote: > > If by who is going to walk the walk, you mean who is going to actually > write code, I have said more than once that I will -- if a domain expert > will tell me what's needed. > Awesome. A single day has seen a 100% increase in the team size. Our resident CA on ILUG is around and committed. He will definitely jump in formally as soon as he gets around to reading this. And we need not just CAs. Accountants, business people, troublemongers, testers, jholers, etc too who can give practical inputs on their requirements. While current Packages dwell into the inventory aspects, not all needs of inventory management are met. Not all needs of reporting are met. Such individuals can provide valuable input for that too. Is there any way the other LUGs can be spoken to? Pune and Bangalore? I am pretty confident that there are many enthusiasts like yourself around who have done a lot of coding. So someone needs to take the best of all and put it together. I think it's the last mile that needs the walking. Moderator: If now is the right time we should fork this discussion to a different channel or mailing list, feel free to say so. -abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem: running exe file on RH Linux
by Abhishek Daga 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

--- prasad ubhare <raau25(a)gmail.com> wrote: > how to run exe file on red hat linux? > -- Always give as specific a subject line as possible. a generic heading such as "problem" or "hello" will discourage users from responding to you. exe files are not executable on Linux distros under default conditions (some exceptions). You will need to run them using WINE (http://www.winehq.org) or CrossOverOffice. This simulates the windows environment upto the extent of letting u run lot of executables. They may or may not run correctly. While Wine is free CrossOver is a paid product built around wine. Xandros 3.0 has CrossOver office bundled which otherwise is available for a 30 day evaluation version or a $40 download for the full version. If you .exe requires only DOS to execute, then you can install DOSEMU which as the name suggests is a dos emulator. hope this helps. abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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problem
by prasad ubhare 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

how to run exe file on red hat linux?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

extract of avsap.py in the avsap-1.1042.tgz shows version 1.10 ################################################################### AVSAP # version: 1.10 # Author: Kenneth Gonsalves # Module: # Filename: avsap.py # License: GPL ################################################################### # # AVSAP A Very Simple Accounting Program # Copyright (C) 2003 Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon at thenilgiris dot com # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA ############################################################################## import wxversion wxversion.select("2.5") import wx from config import * :

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Debian Installation
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

>I installed Red Hat Linux. >I want to change it to Debian. >How to upgrade Linux to Debian? I don't think you can 'upgrade' to Debian. They are different distros or OS'es to speak So to install Debian.. Just install it over RHL. Take a back up of your data to another partition if reqd. Gishu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by Abhishek Daga 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

> Which is the best non intel PC config. any links would also be > helpful. This PC will be used to run Linux predominantly > You have a wide selection out there. there are AMD based systems and then there are the mean Mac Machines. Which pretty much leaves you with AMD or AMD. Now that was just the processor motherboard part. Assuming that everything else such as RAM, Drives etc fall under the category of "it depends", the only differentiators are the motherboard+cpu. What are you planning to do with the old celeron board? Want to throw it this way? -abhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Sharing monitor, keyboard and mouse between 2 pc's
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

>I have connected these 2 with a crossover cable. >However I have only one monitor/keyboard and mouse. >Is there a way by which I can access the desktop of O and issue >commands from N with the help of software.i.e I log in to FC3 on N and >access the Ubuntu desktop of O and say issue commands run >applications on O I have this working except that it is linked via Win. (+ I have a switch) I use Netmeeting to do whatever you said above. Dunno what is the counterpart in the Linux world ? I googled a bit and it seems that you can even turn on a Linux box for another m/c to netmeet... groovy. But it looks easier said than done Gishu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Sharing monitor, keyboard and mouse between 2 pc's
by Raseel Bhagat 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 Ninad Bapat wrote : >Hi >Is there a way by which I can access the desktop of O and issue >commands from N with the help of software.i.e I log in to FC3 on N and >access the Ubuntu desktop of O and say issue commands run >applications on O > >I have heard of some tools but do not know whether they will work or >are suitable for my purpose.for e.g. Xserver,VNC,nfs Ninad, man X and man xinit. VNC, remote desktop et al. will serve your purpose too, but the best way is to use the X server's excellent characteristics here. Thanks Raseel Bhagat

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Fwd: Sharing monitor,keyboard and mouse between 2 pc's
by Ninad Bapat 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

Hi I have 2 pcs.I will call them as follows New PC(N) and old PC (O) N is a brand new pc with P4.2.4ghz,256mbRAM,40G HDD,D845GVSR mother board etc. It is triple booting with XP and FC3 and Ubuntu warty O is a old IBM pc PII 500mhz,64mb ram and CD rom drive. I have reserved this Pc to load only open source .It is running only Ubuntu warty I have connected these 2 with a crossover cable. However I have only one monitor/keyboard and mouse. Is there a way by which I can access the desktop of O and issue commands from N with the help of software.i.e I log in to FC3 on N and access the Ubuntu desktop of O and say issue commands run applications on O I have heard of some tools but do not know whether they will work or are suitable for my purpose.for e.g. Xserver,VNC,nfs I do not want to buy any special hardware Thanks and regards Ninad

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Fwd: Best non intel Pc configuration available in India
by Ninad Bapat 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

Hi I already have a 2 pcs both based on intel. One of the PC 's which is a brand new P4 2.4ghz 256mb RAM and combo drive(CDR/DVD) D845GVSR mobo will be shifted to a new location. I am left with an old PC which is a Celeron 500 with 64mb RAM IBM branded PC. I need to buy a new PC and decided to buy a non intel PC. Which is the best non intel PC config. any links would also be helpful. This PC will be used to run Linux predominantly Thanks and Regards Ninad

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 12:20, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 14 Apr 2005 10:17 am, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > On Thursday 14 April 2005 06:50, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > will work as is on any linux distro - you just need to install > > > the dependencies which also work as is on all linux distros > > > > compiled and installed wxpython on woody. Running avsap.py throws > > up this error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "./avsap.py", line 31, in ? > > from wxPython.wx import * > > ImportError: No module named wxPython.wx > > > > What should i do?? > > you dont have the latest version of avsap - download it and try Done still the same error. ??? rgds jtd

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by OSPOnline 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

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Debian Installation
by Vdk khar 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

I installed Red Hat Linux. I want to change it to Debian. How to upgrade Linux to Debian? Thanks & Regards Vishwas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] messenger on linux
by Kenneth Gonsalves 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

On Monday 25 Apr 2005 5:19 am, Amol Hatwar wrote: > messenger on linux > > > On 24 Apr 2005 19:48:39 -0000, amit kalyani > > > > <arksol(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > > Can anybody guide me how to use messenger on linux systems. > > > > Which ones > > I assume you soeak of MSN Messenger... > > In any case, use Ayttum. It's nice and clean. ayttm -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.sourceforge.net ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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messenger on linux
by amit kalyani 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

Hi all Can anybody guide me how to use messenger on linux systems. Which ones are available and which is best for SUSE 8.0 I installed yahoo messenger on my suse os. It gives segmentation fault message whenever I turn it on. Your guidance is appreciated a lot! thanks in advance. amit kalyani Amit R. Kalyani Active Structures Laboratory Universite libre de Bruxelles Avenue F.D.Roosevelt 50 CP 165/42 1050 Brussels BELGIUM Tel:32-2-6504663 Fax:62-2-6504660 Mail: akalyani(a)ulb.ac.be Web:-http://www.ulb.ac.be/scmero http://student.ulb.ac.be/~akalyani/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 1) Open Source Accounting Package
by Abhishek Daga 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

--- Saswata Banerjee & Associates <scrapo(a)saswatabanerjee.com> wrote: > The domain experts are too lazy and stuck in inertia. > Now if we are starting on this project, I am on board (but I cant > program) as Domain Expert :) > > We have a choice of using AVSAP (not yet been able to load it on my > laptop yet) > or we can try to get Web-ERP or CK-ERP (both are very good) and modify > them to Indian scenarios. > > > If we are starting on this project, who else will be ready to join up ? The Gods of all denominations are definitely with us. but we still need people. A University or a college is always a great place to seed such projects. You think an IIT would be interested in this? or a TSEC or a VJTI? Professor? your take? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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SMTP/ESMTP - RFC Resource
by Paul Alapatt 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

> > Hello > > > > I want to know is there any site or > > resource on Internet which lists all the commands of SMTP/ESMTP and > > SMTP/ESMTP error codes. > > Dear Komal, The best place always for all the standards is the RFC Repository. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Are you planning to create a SMTP server? :) Paul > > Thank you > > > > Regards, > > > > Komal > > > > -- > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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SMTP/ESMTP
by komal 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

Hello I want to know is there any site or resource on Internet which lists all the commands of SMTP/ESMTP and SMTP/ESMTP error codes. Thank you Regards, Komal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] SMTP/ESMTP
by Abhishek Daga 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

--- komal <agencies_ad1(a)sancharnet.in> wrote: > I want to know is there any site or > resource on Internet which lists all the commands of SMTP/ESMTP and > SMTP/ESMTP error codes. > hey!! google actually works.. http://contribs.org/modules/phpwiki/index.php/SMTP%20and%20mail%20server%20… http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/7348 http://www.massmailsoftware.com/ezine/past/2003-04-30.htm http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/smtp_error_code.htm http://www.mailsbroadcast.com/email.bolts&nuts/smtp.codes.command.group.htm http://www.admins-tipps.net/glossar/smtp_codes.htm hope this helps.. remember to do your good deed for the day.. abhi ps: the last one is in german methinks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 24, Issue 51
by deepak shingan 24 Apr '05

24 Apr '05

hi Replaying to ur last Sentence " If we are starting on this project, who else will be ready to join up ?" i m ready to join ur project..as i m doing my masters of comp science from Symbiosys college pune & I did a small bank accounting project during my graduation , i wish to contribute in your project... Even i agree with Roni's advice ,he set the right target to achive the goal. So instead of talking abt something great.....Let's Prove Our own greateness! Regards Deepak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[COMMERCIAL] Linux/Unix Systems Admin, RHCE
by R M 23 Apr '05

23 Apr '05

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 1) Open Source Accounting Package
by Dinesh Joshi 23 Apr '05

23 Apr '05

>From: Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga(a)yahoo.com> >The Gods of all denominations are definitely with us. but we still need >people. >A University or a college is always a great place to seed such projects. >You think an IIT would be interested in this? or a TSEC or a VJTI? >Professor? your take? Why would a university want to help us? We would rather do it on our own. Yeah, that means I am ready to help out in all possible ways :) Regards, Dinesh. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Problem in access internet through Windows proxy
by Asif Sikandar 23 Apr '05

23 Apr '05

Hi !!! At my company we have Windows ISA server to access net in local network and access to net is given on the basis of domain user ID and password which is asked as a pop up window in IE. I have install Linux 9 on my system and given the proxy settings in mozilla. I m able to access intranet sites in mozilla but when I try to access internet sites mozilla doesn't given any pop for entering user ID and password. what more settings is required. pls help. Regards Asif Indiatimes Email now powered by APIC Advantage. Help! Help

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 1) Open Source Accounting Package 2) FreeBSD Forums
by Abhishek Daga 23 Apr '05

23 Apr '05

--- Satya <ilugbom(a)thesatya.com> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:57:52PM +0530, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > >On 22/04/05 13:35 -0400, Satya wrote: > >> Why the tie with function keys anyway? > > > >Because keyboard shortcuts make life MUCH simpler. The same reason why > >the command line is much faster at manipulating text. > > In that case other keys can be used. And Javascript can handle those. > See 'access keys'. > > -- Thank you, but that is just one in the many minor bumps which i am sure will be resolved or gotten used to. The bigger picture is: Who all are going to walk the walk? that is what is needed now. Maybe the next LUG meet could have a section on this and take this project up in a loosely formal way? If not, then some of us could get together in parallel and initiate the exercise? -abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Help !!! Its Debian
by Rony Bill 23 Apr '05

23 Apr '05

Dear Friends, I have been trying to figure my way around in debian since last few days and have hit some trouble spots. The modem dials and tries to establish connection in wvdial but the last ok does not come and it disconnects. Kppp would not start in gui as it did not allow user access. Om going through the doc pages I found that it allows only those users who are in the 'dip' group. So I did the usermod -G dip user_name and got kppp running in user gui, but it does not detect my ext. modem on ttys0. The modem query fails. There is no ifcfg* file in debian. How does one setup the eth0? The sound system was not detected but the first time I played a vcd in totem media player, it gave picture and lower volume sound. but next day even that did not happen and I got the message 'cannot play cd even though pluggin is loaded'. During my modem setup I had messed with some files so I formatted and reloaded debian again but now totem has the same error right from start. No net, no movie, back to redhat. Any help apreciated. Debian's web archives have dates not subjects so I can't find my relavent topic unless I open all dates one by one. My first priority is getting the net up. Regards, Rony.

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At Last !!
by Rony Bill 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Dear Friends, Sorry to be bothering you again and again. I found this very good site http://www.aboutdebian.com/contents.htm and it is a comprehensive guide for debian setup. It provided the solution to the resolve problem. On connecting to the net, I had to add :- route add default ppp0 in the command line and this is my first mail from debian. Will go through the site before posting any other problems. Regards, Rony. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Security Myths (Linux and Network)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

On Friday 22 April 2005 13:06, Arun Khan wrote: > Came across a couple of articles on security (Linux and Network), > thought it might be worthwhile to share them with this list. > > Five Linux Security Myths You Can Live Without: > http://www.securitypipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=1609021 >38&pgno=1 Hackers ... this and hackers that. The right term is crackers. dont even bother to read an article which mistakes hackers for crackers. And the 2nd writer needs to be beaten with a gnu clue stick for wasting news print. Having source code according to this ah allows you to install backdoors and the example he badies is a compiler. I suppose one cant install a few trojaned libs on a closed source box. And the default install of all distros is insecure. Nevermind the worms and exploits that get you on a windows box and never get fixed ever. List dont waste time reading the shit. I already wasted mine. > 7 Myths About Network Security: > http://www.securitypipeline.com/160401820 > And the 2nd writer needs to be beaten with a gnu clue stick for wasting news print. Having source code according to this ah allows you to install backdoors and the example he bandies is a compiler. I suppose one cant install a few trojaned libs on a closed source box. And the default install of all distros is insecure. Nevermind the worms and exploits that get you on a windows box secured or not and never get fixed ever. List dont waste time reading the shit. I already wasted mine. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help !!! Its Debian
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

On Friday 22 April 2005 00:07, Rony Bill wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I have been trying to figure my way around in debian since last few > days and have hit some trouble spots. Is it the sarge dvd? or is it woody. > > The modem dials and tries to establish connection in wvdial but the > last ok does not come and it disconnects. Kppp would not start in > gui as it did not allow user access. Om going through the doc pages > I found that it allows only those users who are in the 'dip' group. > So I did the usermod -G dip user_name and got kppp running in user > gui, but it does not detect my ext. modem on ttys0. The modem query > fails. set it manually to /dev/ttyS0 . note the capital S. Btw which modem. > > There is no ifcfg* file in debian. How does one setup the eth0? append the following at the end of /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 then run /etc/init.d/networking restart. ifconfig should show your network. your network configuration is in /etc/network/interfaces > > The sound system was not detected but the first time I > played a vcd in totem media player, it gave picture and > lower volume sound. You must have complete details of your hardware. What sound chipset. Also which boot option did you select while installing. rgds jtd

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 24, Issue 45
by santosh rao 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Dear Mr Milind, i am sorry if i hurt your feelings, but no one is blaming anything.. i am stuck somewhere and am askin for help... Guys :-- something strange tht i noticed, when i put only one RAM modules, then it would take the NIC, sata and everything. But when i put in 4 modules, the same thing again, it wont take the tg3.o module, in dmesg i saw tht it gave an error sayin something like unable to find pci resources. Is it linked with the RAM modules and memory allocation or something.. Any kind of assistance will be greatly appreciated guys. -- Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take; out by the moments that take our breath away. Regards and Thanks Santosh Rao

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[COMMERCIAL] Linux experience
by Rohan R. Almeida 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Hello, There is an urgent requirement for people with experience in Linux. All the usual stuff apply like shell scripting, configuring services, troubleshooting, knowing how to read documentation, configuring automated installations and others. Also some software development experience required in C, Perl, PHP. You have around 4-5 years of related experience. The openings are in a top (BIG) company. Kindly send in your resume if you are interested. -- Rohan

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MS to support Linux boxes for network admin
by Vickram Crishna 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

At 12:53 PM +0000 4/22/05, eGovINDIA(a)yahoogroups.com wrote: >INDIATIMES NEWS NETWORK[ THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2005 03:18:54 PM] > >http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1084496,curpg- >1.cms > >In a marked departure from its earlier stand, Microsoft has promised >to add Linux support for the first time in one of its products. >Microsoft's Server 2005 product will run on non-Windows machines, >including Linux. > >Microsoft had always rebuffed any requests for interoperability with >products it didn't make, particularly Linux, an open-source giant, >which it has long considered a threatening alternative. > >On Wednesday, Microsoft head Steve Ballmer promised to add Linux >support to Virtual Server 2005 Service Pack 1, which will be shipped >by the end of the year, because, he said, users need to manage >heterogeneous networks. > >Ballmer was giving his keynote address at the Microsoft Management >Summit in Las Vegas. Microsoft official Bill Anderson demonstrated >how Red Hat Linux could run on Virtual Server 2005. > >Ballmer said the company had to soften its stance based on customer >demand for virtualisation, which helps multiple instances of a piece >of software, such as an operating system, run on one single machine. > > This technology helps customers cut down on the number of computers >or servers they need to power their businesses, a cost-cutting >measure that most enterprises crave. > >To that end, Ballmer said Virtual Server 2005 Service Pack 1 (SP1), >which is now in beta, offers developers the ability to put the >company's new 64-bit compatibility and improved performance to the >test on editions of Windows Server 2003 x64. > >R2 On The Horizon > >He further said Microsoft was adding other virtualisation >improvements, including support for x64 editions of Windows Server >2003, and a Microsoft Operations Manager management pack for Virtual >Server that provides a central console. Microsoft plans to license, >royalty-free, its Virtual Hard Disk (.vhd) file format. > >He said Microsoft would add other critical features around the time >the company releases Longhorn Server in 2007, but said those >features will not come with Longhorn. > >Ballmer also said the forthcoming release of Windows Server, >codenamed R2, would provide support for WS-Management, a Web >services protocol the company is working on with Sun, AMD, Dell, BMC >and others. The protocol will support inter-operability, and he >showed a demo using Microsoft Operations Manager to troubleshoot >problems on Sun servers, one running the Windows OS and the other >Solaris. > >WS-Management is scheduled to be included in Windows Server 2003 R2, >available later this year. -- Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help with Soft IP Phones
by chirag radhakrishnan 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

John Marder <john.marder(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi! I am planning to setup a Soft IP phone on 4 machines here in my company. I have been advised to use the Cisco one. As I don't understand much about soft ip phones, would someone be kind enough to tell me a little about it and/or post a few links etc. in order to point me in the right direction. thanx in adv. john -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers IP phones are available in 2 forms either hardware /software. The software version is called soft IP phone. The licensing is some what similar to the hardware phones (which means you approx equal to what u wud pay for hardware phone) I think the option of using a webcam wil not be present with the softphones Regards, Chirag __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Acer Aspire 1362 with Amd sempron
by chirag radhakrishnan 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Binulal Narayanan <kutoos(a)spymac.com> wrote: R. K. Rajeev wrote: > Dear Binulal, > > i've installed FC3 on an Aspire 1362, and in order to get the graphics > working, all i had to do was download the rpm's for VIA UniChrome support. But Aspire 3002 has got a Sis M760GX Chipset despite the K8M800 of 1362. I installed SUSE pro 9.2 (eval) with VESA driver. It works fine at 1024x768@70Hz. There's AmoroK for mp3s. Videos; i'ven't tried Kaffeine yet. BTW, Tried to install Win Xp and Solaris. Windows sucks big time. same with Solaris. > I googled it, and found it at ww.viaarena.con somewhere. Once i got > it installed, i got DRI, GLX and OpenGL 1.3 support. Even tried out > Unreal Tournament 2003, and it was quite playable at the low quality > settings even. And also, u get Mplayer with XvMC support, i.e. > hardware mpeg/mpeg2 decoding. Watching DVD's rock even... Cool! and Impressive. I'll also have a look at it.. BTW, did you manage to get ACPI working? Fedora seems okay, but SUSE kernel gets stuck in between. > do check it out. > > Regards > R. K. Rajeev Thanks Binulal Narayanan -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Try installing Suse with acpi=oldboot option Regards, Chirag __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Smartlink modem problem
by Nilesh Shinde 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

hi all, i am a student. i have some problem with configuring= modem(smartlink) i downloaded drivers...but after creating link by comm= and # ln -s /dev/ttySL0 /dev/modem and after running kppp for diali= ng it says kppp can not find /dev/modem. i tried installing driver a= gain but the problem remains.i am using red hat WS (kernel 2.4) on ce= leron 1.7ghz plz help thanx in advance -Nilesh- -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up f= or Ads Free at Mail.com [1]http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup References 1. 3D"http://mail01.mail.com/scripts/payment/adtracking.cgi?bannercode

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Security Myths (Linux and Network)
by Arun Khan 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Came across a couple of articles on security (Linux and Network), thought it might be worthwhile to share them with this list. Five Linux Security Myths You Can Live Without: http://www.securitypipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=160902138&pgno=1 7 Myths About Network Security: http://www.securitypipeline.com/160401820 rgds, akk

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Acer Aspire 1362 with Amd sempron
by Binulal Narayanan 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

R. K. Rajeev wrote: > Dear Binulal. > > My mistake. since you mentioned 1362 in the topic, i didnt notice that > u actually bought a 3002. Did a bit of digging around on the net and > found his link, that may explain some of the problems associated with > the 760 chipset, and probably also why even windows performance with > the acer/sis drivers blows. Really? :( :(( > And it looks unlikely that DRI support for this chipset will come out > anytime soon( or at all... :'( ). So, for now, i'd say the 1362 was a > better buy than the 3002. Yeah I agree, except for the weight :p (And until I am able to iron out all the issues :D ) > > Link: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#13 I had a look at this. Also digged a little bit of XF86Config. It uses a sis660 driver and has DRI. Still need to investigate the local memory issues! > Also, with regards to ACPI, i managed to get the battery meter, system > monitors and screen blanking working. however, i didnt spend enough > time with the sys to try out the suspend settings and > power/lid-flap/custom button actions. So, dunno about that. Try it out > with the 9.3 SuSE/FC4(whenever it comes .... :-\ ) and see if you > still face the ACPI hangs. Where can I get SUSE 9.3 CDs? > > P.S. : oh, and ever since i lost a lot of perfectly good hair trying > to get a SiS 6215C to work back in '98, I've got a kind of aversion to > SiS. And this does nothing to improve matters.... > > Regards > R. K. Rajeev Thanks Binulal Narayanan

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Swap problem
by Raj Shende 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Hi all, If my Machine RAM size is 2GB , then Is it possible to define swap of 4GB. In many documentation "swap" is declare double the size of RAM and also mention that it should not increse 2GB. Confused ??? help. BRds; RS Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] FW: JFFS2 File System Problem for ST MICROELECTRONICS FLASH
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

On Thursday 21 April 2005 16:39, Vikrant_Basotra wrote: > Hello All, Please get rid of that stupid footer about confidentiality. this is a public list and your mails are going to go to everybody including those that you never want to ever (like competitors). > > Why U-boot can read the data on flash correctly while linux can't? > > Why linux always read all data as 0x0020? > > When I simply replace ST M29W640DB with AMD AM29DL640D (the two > chips are pin-to-pin compatible,) JFFS2 works very fine! > > What's the problem? different command sets. > > I don't want to use AMD FLASH, can u suggest me what necessary > changes are to be made in the code so that the ST M29W640DB Flash > work, > > DISCLAIMER: > This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use > of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is > CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or > reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any > or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by > email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is > appreciated. This is the 2nd time you are posting that stupid footer. Do you read the entire mail or just the portion that is relieving the screw turn. rgds jtd

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Public IP
by Karia Amit 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

Hi all, I Have private Ip of one server which linux server and is behind the firewall but i have access to that server since port is opened for my ip now i would like to know Public ip of the same server . Is there any way through which I can get to know Public ip of that server "As Long As You Can Carry On One More Moment , You'll Never Be Defeated" Amit Karia +919819851812

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Swap problem
by vidya bhosale 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

hello, well this is confusing situation but let me tell u the fact. In many documentations it is there to declare the size of RAM twice,it is just b'coz the research has shown that it gives good performance if RAM is declared twice.otherwise it is not mandatory to declare it twice Regards vidya On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 Raj Shende wrote : >Hi all, > >If my Machine RAM size is 2GB , then Is it possible to define swap of 4GB. > >In many documentation "swap" is declare double the size of RAM and also mention that it should not increse 2GB. > >Confused ??? > >help. > >BRds; >RS > >Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Tata Indicom Latest Offer: Is today April 1st?
by Abhishek Daga 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

--- SeekingGyan <linuxlinux(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Can anyone confirm if that rate of Rs. 800/month for 512 Kbps unlimited time, > > unlimted download is for real or was it part of the MTV bakra show? am i > already > > on TV or radio? > > did u care to chk their website ? > No as a matter of fact, checked it after posting, but deals on websites can be dated. no? Nothing like that on the website, true.. darn. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] Tata Indicom Latest Offer: Is today April 1st?
by Abhishek Daga 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

Got a call from Tata Indicom AGAIN today for broadband internet at 512 kbps. I asked 10 times categorically, Does it have any other limits of any kind? time restrictions, data transfer restrictions, in 2 languages that i happen to know. He replied NO, no restrictions. which was good since i want something without restrictions. Is it a shared lines or a dedicated one? Dedicated he said. Will I have to provide modem? No, they will provide. So how much was the damage I ask. Rs. 800/month and 1300 for installation. Can anyone confirm if that rate of Rs. 800/month for 512 Kbps unlimited time, unlimted download is for real or was it part of the MTV bakra show? am i already on TV or radio? -thanks abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Tata Indicom Latest Offer: Is today April 1st?
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

On Thursday 21 April 2005 19:13, Abhishek Daga wrote: > Got a call from Tata Indicom AGAIN today for broadband internet at > 512 kbps. > > I asked 10 times categorically, Does it have any other limits of > any kind? time restrictions, data transfer restrictions, in 2 > languages that i happen to know. He replied NO, no restrictions. > which was good since i want something without restrictions. Is it a > shared lines or a dedicated one? Dedicated he said. Will I have to > provide modem? No, they will provide. > > So how much was the damage I ask. > Rs. 800/month and 1300 for installation. just called the call center. No unlimited plan on 512kbps on 128 kbps Rs.2000 p.m postpaid. via modem Rs 2000 p.a for fixed ip. rgds jtd > > Can anyone confirm if that rate of Rs. 800/month for 512 Kbps > unlimited time, unlimted download is for real or was it part of the > MTV bakra show? am i already on TV or radio? hmm just might be. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

On Thursday 21 April 2005 16:52, Vickram Crishna wrote: > At 7:53 PM +0530 4/20/05, sherlock wrote: > >grub-install /dev/hda > > I am booting up right now from the Live Ubuntu CD. To anyone who > wants to use this CD to learn or teach, I can only say I hope you > have a lot of patience, because commands work really slowly > (Celeron 500 with 128 MB RAM). your cdrom would mostly be the slowpoke non-dma-spin-for-1-hr-before -doing-anything type. And most likely 64mb of your ram is eaten up by your on board graphics which actually requires 4mb to work wasting 60mb.so there. > > I can open and use the root terminal application inside Ubuntu, and > I tried to execute the grub install from the command line, but it > failed. After a little thought (actually quite a lot of thought) I > tried this line > > grub-install /mnt/hda6/dev/hda sudo grub-install /dev/hda sudo nano /mnt/hda6/boot/grub/menu.lst then add the stuff listed in the previous mail and save. Also afaik rh9.0 uses an initrd image file so u need a line after the kernel line initrd=/??/initrd.img RH9.0 users will be able to tell u the /?? directory. afaik it is /boot > > since I am not actually running off an installed OS. This failed as > well, returning the grub help screen again, this time saying the > install_device is not recognised. > > >After that you only need to edit ../grub/menu.lst or cut and paste > >the lines below into a text file called menu.lst and save it to > > ../grub > > > >root (hd0,5) > >boot=/dev/hda > >default=0 > >timeout=10 > > > >...etc etc > > I did this exactly as described. I cannot use the gredit graphic > text editor application to write at all to the hard disks - they > either return no action and no error message or else I am told the > disk is read-only. I guess the graphic applications are not run > under root, and with a Live CD there must be no way to become root > except with the specific root terminal application. But that's not > a complete stopper, because vi works from the root terminal > application within Ubuntu. I have written menu.1st to /grub and ^^^^^^^^^^^ that should be menu. l as in list not 1 as in one. u can also use ubuntu as a rescue disc. when you get the boot screen type /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386 intitrd=/initrd/initrd.img root=/dev/hda6 that should take you to the rh root partition. And if all this is too confusing just use debian sarge. rgds jtd

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Window less Office
by Richard Chang 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

Hi Everyone, In our endeavour to implement a Windoze less office, I would like to add something. I am planning to implement FLOSS in my office network of 7 computers. No accounting packages, no frills network. Just Peer-to-Peer and connected to the Net thru one of the PCs' using the ICS in Win XP. Predominantly use Word, Excel and Mailing. I just want to shift to FLOSS and know that all the above are possible using LINUX. I want to, in addition to the above, implement a messaging server thru which we can chat within our office. Is there any such application thru which we can chat, using "gaim" or something. Provided we are not connected to the Net always. I want to be able to chat with one-other. I know it is possible in M$ world using I believe Exchange Server or something like that and Netmeeting on the client side. Is this possible in our TUX world and if yes are there any free software available. rgds, rc

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by Vickram Crishna 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

At 7:53 PM +0530 4/20/05, sherlock wrote: >grub-install /dev/hda I am booting up right now from the Live Ubuntu CD. To anyone who wants to use this CD to learn or teach, I can only say I hope you have a lot of patience, because commands work really slowly (Celeron 500 with 128 MB RAM). I can open and use the root terminal application inside Ubuntu, and I tried to execute the grub install from the command line, but it failed. After a little thought (actually quite a lot of thought) I tried this line grub-install /mnt/hda6/dev/hda since I am not actually running off an installed OS. This failed as well, returning the grub help screen again, this time saying the install_device is not recognised. > >After that you only need to edit ../grub/menu.lst or cut and paste >the lines below into a text file called menu.lst and save it to ../grub > >root (hd0,5) >boot=/dev/hda >default=0 >timeout=10 > >...etc etc I did this exactly as described. I cannot use the gredit graphic text editor application to write at all to the hard disks - they either return no action and no error message or else I am told the disk is read-only. I guess the graphic applications are not run under root, and with a Live CD there must be no way to become root except with the specific root terminal application. But that's not a complete stopper, because vi works from the root terminal application within Ubuntu. I have written menu.1st to /grub and copied it as grub.conf to /etc, too, as advised by Derwyn. Please advise me how to get the grub installed on the boot directory (on hda), using this Ubuntu Live CD, or else I will wait till I can borrow the RH9 CDs again. -- Vickram

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FW: JFFS2 File System Problem for ST MICRO ELECTRONICS FLASH
by Vikrant_Basotra 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

Hello All, My board has one 16-bit flash: ST M29W640DB. M29W640DB (16 bit bus): 0x00000000-0x00700000 : "Root" 0x00700000-0x00720000 : "U-Boot Bootloader" 0x00720000-0x01000000 : "Linux Kernel" When power on, Linux kernel boots from flash and print out info such as: " .............................................. PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 .............................................. EP8248 flash map (size->0x800000 mem->0xFF800000) Amd/Fujitsu Extended Query Table v1.3 at 0x0040 number of CFI chips: 1 cfi_cmdset_0002: Disabling fast programming due to code brokenness. Creating 3 MTD partitions on "EP8248 flash memory": 0x00000000-0x00700000 : "Root" 0x00700000-0x00720000 : "U-Boot Bootloader" 0x00720000-0x01000000 : "Linux Kernel" ...................................... jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x00060000: 0x0020 instead jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x00060004: 0x22df instead jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x0006000c: 0x0008 instead Further such events for this erase block will not be printed ................................................................ Further such events for this erase block will not be printed JFFS2: Erase block at 0x003a0000 is not formatted. It will be erased jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x003c0000: 0x0020 instead jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x003c0004: 0x22df instead jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x003c000c: 0x0008 instead Further such events for this erase block will not be printed JFFS2: Erase block at 0x003c0000 is not formatted. It will be erased .................................................................... .................................................................... " In u-boot, I entered commands to display memory: u-boot=> md 0xff000000 The magic number 0x1985 IS here!No 0x0020 exists at all!! It's quite strange!! Why Linux detects 0x0020 instead? Why U-boot can read the data on flash correctly while linux can't? Why linux always read all data as 0x0020? When I simply replace ST M29W640DB with AMD AM29DL640D (the two chips are pin-to-pin compatible,) JFFS2 works very fine! What's the problem? I don't want to use AMD FLASH, can u suggest me what necessary changes are to be made in the code so that the ST M29W640DB Flash work, Regards, VB DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated.

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NS Query
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

Hi I configured primary DNS on my server with A record and MX record pointing to same machine ( IP ). Now I want only www.mydomain.com to point to another IP. Will changing A record will do ??? I am using FC3 with default Bind package. Regards Mangesh

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] 64 bit kernel
by Abhishek Daga 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

> > we compiled kernel 2.6.9 with arch x86-64, the kernel compiled > > fine, but the bloddy kernel wont take the "NIC" , i have a asus k8n dl > > motherboard. > > bloddy kernel > --> you have no privilege to blame the kernel, use your words carefully. > -- Thats a new one. I thought it was all about freedom to use and abuse and liberal licensing or total lack of. Maybe you should change the privilege to 777 abuse to get the right to abuse. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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64 bit kernel
by santosh rao 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

hi all. we compiled kernel 2.6.9 with arch x86-64, the kernel compiled fine, but the bloddy kernel wont take the "NIC" , i have a asus k8n dl motherboard. when i compile 2.6.11 the kernel wont get the sata_nv controller which it does in the 2.6.9 kern.. Both havin the same .config file. i have a feelin tht thr is come irq sharing issue... during the fly i can c the it says irq sharing disabled. Can anybody assist in any way we have recompiled glibc , gcc , binutils with 64 bit arch. -- Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take; out by the moments that take our breath away. Regards Santosh Rao

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Window less Office
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

On Wednesday 20 April 2005 10:05, Richard Chang wrote: > Hi Everyone, > In our endeavour to implement a Windoze less office, I would like > to add something. I am planning to implement FLOSS in my office > network of 7 computers. No accounting packages, no frills network. > Just Peer-to-Peer and connected to the Net thru one of the PCs' > using the ICS in Win XP. Predominantly use Word, Excel and Mailing. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 10:14:23AM -0400, Satya wrote: > >>server thru which we can chat within our office. Is there any > >> such application thru which we can chat, using "gaim" or > >> something. Provided we are not connected to the Net always. I > >> want to be able to chat with > > > >Yes, Jabber. Install ejabberd or something on one of the Linux > > boxes. or gnugk and openmcu and gnomemeeting and elcheapo netcams and u can have internal videoconferencing and chatting. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Acer Aspire 1362 with Amd sempron
by Binulal Narayanan 21 Apr '05

21 Apr '05

R. K. Rajeev wrote: > Dear Binulal, > > i've installed FC3 on an Aspire 1362, and in order to get the graphics > working, all i had to do was download the rpm's for VIA UniChrome support. But Aspire 3002 has got a Sis M760GX Chipset despite the K8M800 of 1362. I installed SUSE pro 9.2 (eval) with VESA driver. It works fine at 1024x768@70Hz. There's AmoroK for mp3s. Videos; i'ven't tried Kaffeine yet. BTW, Tried to install Win Xp and Solaris. Windows sucks big time. same with Solaris. > I googled it, and found it at ww.viaarena.con somewhere. Once i got > it installed, i got DRI, GLX and OpenGL 1.3 support. Even tried out > Unreal Tournament 2003, and it was quite playable at the low quality > settings even. And also, u get Mplayer with XvMC support, i.e. > hardware mpeg/mpeg2 decoding. Watching DVD's rock even... Cool! and Impressive. I'll also have a look at it.. BTW, did you manage to get ACPI working? Fedora seems okay, but SUSE kernel gets stuck in between. > do check it out. > > Regards > R. K. Rajeev Thanks Binulal Narayanan

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT]MTNL TriBand Connection
by Dinesh Joshi 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

>From: "Amol Hatwar" <amol(a)hatwar.org> > > But dont you think the data cap is too much? I mean 450MB @ > > 256Kbps is nothing... > >You mean too less... I meant highly capped. Too much restriction on use... >MTNL has another captcha... It doesn't give upload speeds over 128kbps. But thats expected since they are using ADSL. And basically, we downloaders, dont need excessive upstream bandwidth. Regards, Dinesh. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

On Wednesday 20 April 2005 13:51, Vickram Crishna wrote: > At 11:44 AM +0530 4/13/05, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > his help would probably have worked). Many thanks to both of you, > but I am sorry to say I still need help. Always welcome as long as you are doing your bit which is trying. > > >title deb-2.6.10 > >root(hd0,0) > >kernel /vmlinuz boot=/dev/hda1 dma acpi append="whatever" > > > >here is my menu.lst > > I could boot up using the RH9 install disk and going to the command > line, but failed miserably to find the menu.lst file. Ok copy and paste my menu.lst in your grub partition then edit it to suit your installation. note grub is installed in my mbr. > > My question is, can I manually write an entirely new boot loader to > MBR without reinstalling Yes you can but that is avoided by even the linux grey beards. You have to use dd. In the case of floppies dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 count=1 bs=1024 dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 seek=1 bs=512 Ofcourse it is also a nice way to SCREW your harddisk. > (especially since even the install disk > didn't seem to be able to do that automatically, and the Ubuntu > installer wants to rewrite the partitions, which I guess will lose > me the RH9 installation)? My active partitions (ext3 fs) are hda6 > (/) and hda7 (/usr), and I have hda8 (swap) also. Other partitions > on the disk are Windows98 fs where I already have a Win98 > installation and data. You have to install grub only once: grub-install /dev/hda After that you only need to edit ../grub/menu.lst or cut and paste the lines below into a text file called menu.lst and save it to ../grub root (hd0,5) boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 title deb-2.6.10 root (hd0,5) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda6 idebus=66 append="hdd=ide-scsi dma apm=power-off" #the above line is a single line dont wrap it. title win root (hd0,1) # hide (hd0,4) rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Abhishek Daga 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

--- Dinesh Joshi <dinesh_pro(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >From: Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga(a)yahoo.com> > Cool. I too am waiting for reliance BB. Atleast they have a decent 10GB > limit and affordable connections(128Kbps for Rs.750). But I want unmetered > downloads! I think MTNL has the potential but someone has to take the lead I > hope someone does and we, customers, benefit from it! :) > > Regards, > I asked the phone lady at MTNL when booking my triband why they are not giving unlimited downloads. Her reply was , "kya sir, humko bhi to kamaney kaa hai". VErbatim!!. Ofcourse my area has still not seen triband infra so maybe it was a blessing in disguise. Also, Be Warned, my neighboring office got the Dishnet (now TATA) broadband at 1 GB limit for 2100/month (128 kbps) a year ago plus. The bill always came to 6000 or so. Now, it is possible that their systems are screwed up, but we figured that it was also because there were n viruses or whatever on pretty much every machine (around 10) on the network that were sending data packets out resulting in their meter being running 24x7. So before getting broadband, broaden your horizons and go linux. (even desktops I mean). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Dinesh Joshi 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

>From: "R. K. Rajeev" <rajeevrk(a)myrealbox.com> >Dear dinesh, >have a look at Pacenet. they are not in all areas, but i know that they are >in many parts of mumbai. I pay rs 900 for a 64k line, with no download >limits at all. and the 128k like is about 1500, i think. and i have 2 >nic's, and share the link with both my parents laptops, no problemo. And >the fun part is, my average monthly download is 15GB+(i have to fill in my >total disk space of 360 GB na.), and i dont pay one pie extra. if u want >unlimited downloads, do check them out. When u work out the cost i'd pay >for the extra transfer, no other cable isp, not even reliance can compete. >hope it works out for you. > >Regards >Rajeev R. K. Hi Rajeev, Thanks for the info. I already checked out pacenet. It has good offers. Even seven star has great offers but the problem is everybody has port caps plus they dont provide 128Kbps UL plans. If they do then they are really costly. I am actually thinking of starting up a broadband company! I cant stand these pathetic plans anymore! Regards, Dinesh. _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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[OT] Acer Aspire 1362 with Amd sempron
by Binulal Narayanan 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

Hello: I plan to buy an Acer Aspire 1362. Could anybody tell me about "Acer Aspire 1362" product rating and linux compatibilty? Do anybody already own this? How is the performace? Please give suggestions/advice in this regard. Thanks in advance Binulal Narayanan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by Vickram Crishna 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

At 11:44 AM +0530 4/13/05, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >On Tuesday 12 April 2005 18:44, Vickram Crishna wrote: >> Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB >> failure, Error 15. > >Afair error 15=file not found. means your root partition is not set >properly in grub. Note grub partition numbers begin with zero so if >root is on first ide drive first partition your grub menu.lst >would look like I had the borrowed RH9 disks for a few days, and spent many entertaining hours trying to figure out exactly what Sherlock meant by what seemed on the face of it to be perfectly simple instructions. In fact, Ryan also sent a very simple guide the next day, but possibly the difference there was about whether the bootloader was installed in MBR (yes, I hope) or not (in which case his help would probably have worked). Many thanks to both of you, but I am sorry to say I still need help. > >title deb-2.6.10 >root(hd0,0) >kernel /vmlinuz boot=/dev/hda1 dma acpi append="whatever" > >here is my menu.lst > I could boot up using the RH9 install disk and going to the command line, but failed miserably to find the menu.lst file. > >You dont need to reload grub once it is installed, just edit >/boot/grub/menu.lst >> Now unfortunately I do not have the RH9 disks anymore (though I may get another copy back in a day or two), but it didn't seem to be a major hassle, since I still have my Ubuntu Live CD, from which I can see my whole system graphically and execute line commands as well. As I mentioned before, I had an issue with the install CD of Ubuntu, which failed to install correctly (in fact, not at all), the Live CD works fine. RH9 installs correctly, except for the problem with Grub (at least, I hope that's the only problem, or like Arnie, I'll be back). Right now, I just can't find the menu.lst file, nor can I locate even the grub.conf file. Maybe neither one has properly installed at all? The /grub folder inside the /boot folder contains the following files: device.map e2fs_stage1_5 fat_stage1_5 ffs_stage1_5 jfs_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 stage1 stage2 vstafs_stage1_5 xfs_stage1_5, and a folder: splash.xpm.gz My question is, can I manually write an entirely new boot loader to MBR without reinstalling (especially since even the install disk didn't seem to be able to do that automatically, and the Ubuntu installer wants to rewrite the partitions, which I guess will lose me the RH9 installation)? My active partitions (ext3 fs) are hda6 (/) and hda7 (/usr), and I have hda8 (swap) also. Other partitions on the disk are Windows98 fs where I already have a Win98 installation and data. I have looked up various Linux help sites after googling, but they advise on editing the existing grub and lilo bootloaders, not writing new ones. -- Vickram

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by vaibhav samant 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

>DNS. Or rather reverse lookup. Add a local (within LAN) DNS server >with forward and reverse entries for your local machines and make sure >this server is queried first. Your problem of "late prompt" will >disappear. ---------------------------- >Alternatively uou can add the entry in the local machines host file. Also add an entry for your machine on the remote host > Hi Chirag, Could you help me.... what entry do I need to add in my HOST file on Win2k PC as the client from where I SSH. Assuming the following: Client: Win2K with Putty. IP: 192.168.0.100 PC Name: Vai Server: Linux 19: 192.168.0.1 hostname: foo.mydom.com Thx in advance. regards, Vai

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Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Mayuresh Rajwadkar 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

HI Does anyone use a broadband connection, and run a LAN behind a Linux Server ? I understand that most broadband providers talk on "single" connection/Single PC only for residential connections. Regards Mayuresh

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Help with Soft IP Phones
by John Marder 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Hi! I am planning to setup a Soft IP phone on 4 machines here in my company. I have been advised to use the Cisco one. As I don't understand much about soft ip phones, would someone be kind enough to tell me a little about it and/or post a few links etc. in order to point me in the right direction. thanx in adv. john

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Times reports on Mah Govt OpenOffice &GNU/Linux
by jitendras＠vsnl.com 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

see Times of India, 19 April , Page 6 CityNotes Mumbai Titled : "State logs on to Cost cutting..." jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by chirag radhakrishnan 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Vipul Mathur <vipul(a)linux-delhi.org> wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 05:19:54AM -0000, vaibhav samant wrote: > If internet is down, and if I try to ssh to the server from within the > LAN the passwd prompt come late. What could be the reason for this. DNS. Or rather reverse lookup. Add a local (within LAN) DNS server with forward and reverse entries for your local machines and make sure this server is queried first. Your problem of "late prompt" will disappear. -- Vipul Mathur vipul[at]linux-delhi.org http://www.vipulmathur.org/ -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Alternatively uou can add the entry in the local machines host file. Also add an entry for your machine on the remote host Regards, Chirag --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

On Monday 18 April 2005 20:44, Abhishek Daga wrote: > > I am waiting for Reliance broadband to come out with their works. > My neighbor, being a fortunate reliance employee up in the pyramid > somewhere, has had an amazing broadband connection for free for a > year, 512 Kbps minimum, Video on demand, Phone etc etc. I attempted > sharing that connection via wireless 802.11b, but the signal did > not travel the distance we wanted, but it worked!. For almost 2 > days I could surf at 512 Kbps sitting on the Pot. (the closest > spot).. U need to put a RF cable RG213 or RG59 from the o/p of your card to an external antenna. If you add a Power Amp. you could easily get a radius range of 1 km with BW of 2mbps. Set up squid and share the price and goodies with neighbours. Ofcourse everone will need a 802.11 card. rgds jtd

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[OT]MTNL TriBand Connection
by Joel A Divekar 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi I wish to access a linux machine from internet. Please help me with the following queries a) Anybody using MTNL TriBand Connection with Linux. I have Debian Woody installed. Are there any configuration issues either Hardware / Software. Any link to refer ? b) Do they provide live IP ? c) Is bandwidth good ? Is the service reliable ? Uptime ? Regards Joel

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Abhishek Daga 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

--- Dinesh Joshi <dinesh_pro(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > I think I know what he means. Incable, BSES, 7star mention in their ToS that > only 1 PC may connect to their service. They will "disconnect" the users who > are found to use NAT or any kind of bandwidth sharing techniques... which is > absurd. In the end all I get is only the pathetic narrowband speed. Doesnt > matter whether I have 1 computer or a internal network of 100 PCs. > > Regards, > Dinesh. I dont know why even in this internet day and age we are just Lagging behind the US in all this? One would think we are more upto speed now and dont have to make the same mistakes to learn from them? Around 5 yrs ago, AT&T broadband tried the same stunt on me when I told them that I wanted to share the connection via a router. Note please, the Input remains the same whether it's 1 or 100 PCs. So, they said, if you want extra PCs you will have to pay $4.5 per machine more.. I said why? they said, Because only then we would "support it". I said, but I dont need your support and if you do come by, I Will show u that it's working on 1 PC only. How difficult would that be to remove a ethernet cable from the router to the PC? I dont think they had a prepared response for it. I asked him/her categorically. "Is it Illegal to use it"??? I never got a straight response. It was DSLreports that cleared everything for me. That basically a NIC is a NIC, whether it comes into your computer or a router. Then what u do with it is your problem, yes they can say they will not support it, but I dont think they ever found enough number of bakras to fall for the $4.5/machine/month extra crap. In the end I believe they just gave up. If this matter were to be challenged legally, i dont think the cable companies stand a chance. But then again, they are not exactly your poster boys for law abiders (sic) so they'll just cut your line anyways. I am waiting for Reliance broadband to come out with their works. My neighbor, being a fortunate reliance employee up in the pyramid somewhere, has had an amazing broadband connection for free for a year, 512 Kbps minimum, Video on demand, Phone etc etc. I attempted sharing that connection via wireless 802.11b, but the signal did not travel the distance we wanted, but it worked!. For almost 2 days I could surf at 512 Kbps sitting on the Pot. (the closest spot).. -abhishek __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail

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Running FoxPRo app on FC3 via DosEMU
by Abhishek Daga 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

At the risk of stating the obvious, I'd like to add my 2 dinars. A major roadblock to adoption of linux in small offices is that accounting applications currently dependent on DOS (yes still people use them, and they work great) and Win platforms need to be run. No way those people are going to adopt to any experimental software. So, the mission began. Taking 1 office at a time: (In my verbose narration I will mark the "points to ponder" within %% and %%) ================================ Office 1: Small office using FoxPro based accounting package with upto 5/6 users at a time. Simple people need simple apps and it's a mystery why FoxPro is not the sher khan in this app world. Simplicity also calls for leaving Wine aside for a while and going one level "below" to DosEMU which as the name suggests is a DOS Emulator. (yes, figured it all by myself!) Platform: FC3 Default install DOSEMU: 1.2.2.1 (www.dosemu.org) latest stable version. RPM had dependencies. So installed pretty much all the developer tools. Got it working. %% It asked me for CD 2/3/1/2/3/1/2/3 %% Got dosEMU running by typing xdosemu which starts DOS in its own window. (I daresay the Good Ol RHL FC Bible was far more useful than the ubiquitous google) The c: which you will see is actually existing in /$HOME/dosemu/freedos Now you know your mapping point. Fire the program and it comes up. Yeah.. just like that. DosBOX also works fine, However, The Screen cannot be Maximised. With DosEMU the screen can be maximized. Remaining Steps: **Making it run from multiple Linux Clients accessing this package on a Linux Server. ** Making sure that the printing works! Else the whole exercise would be a no go. So, Once this happens, the people to benefit? a) The company and employees. Currently atleast 1 person a day suffers for 3 hours of downtime due to viruses. b) The Tech Support engineer. Who comes does reinstall or reformat or Re-whatever each time things go wrong, thus spending X hours. It's like mopping the floor without shutting the tap. c)Anyone still running FoxPro apps pointlessly on Win Machines seeking redemption, here's your ray of light. c) Myself: I'll get my mug on the cover of Time Magazine or Jane's Defence Weekly. ============================================================ The following Case is really boring and without even a successful or potentially successful outcome. You might as well press your "NEXT" button. OK... If still interested, here goes. Office 2: Another small office running Tata EX Next Gen. Crossover office and wine failed to get my RH/FC boxes to talk to Tata EX Next Gen running on Win XP Pro (requiring SQL Server). The thick client installed fine. However on running, the symptoms it displayed were typical when it is unable to connect to the DB. The only thing different I had done while installing TataEX was to install MS SQL Server outside the EX directory. As thr EX directory was required to be shared, i thought keeping the DB unshared (Well in some way anyways) is a little more secure. So the Thick client talks to the Server which talks to the DB and accounting happens. %%I am not sure if variation in the installation of EX has caused my EX client to not find the DB.%% Since it is hardware lock based, and Installing EX on WinXP PRo is a pain, will be a while before I do a resintall with default settings and try running it. Trying to install SQL Server on RH9 using Wine failed. There is a thin line between ambition and foolhardiness they almighty Lord of Free Things wants to tell you through me. %%% Can anyone throw light on whether hardware locks are in any way OS dependent? Because I am gonna try installing EX Next Gen Single USer Version (which uses the MS Access Engine) on a FC3 Machine using Wine. Not sure how the hardware lock would be handled. %%% -Abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide

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Re:Hdd cable
by Sachin 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

> This problem was observed in machines having >independent cables too. When there is a cd rom >and a writer in the system, both have to be in >seperate ide channels for faster cd to cd writing. >The writer has to be master so sec. master. This >leaves primary slave for the cd rom. I have a Secondary master (cd Writer) and secondary slave as the cd-rom, Though it works fine and doesn't make a complain about it on linux, Windowsxp seems to hang often. Do you think this could be the reason? Raj __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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