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PERL | Perl | perl
by Parag Someshwar 10 May '02

10 May '02

Well... Practical Extraction and Report Language or Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister. Take you pick. But anyways... PERL by any other name is just as cool, isn't it!! Parag > > > The candidate should have a thorough knowledge of networking and email > > services in particular. He/she should be proficient at PERL & shell > > Ummm, it's either perl or Perl, never PERL. > -------------------------------------------------------------- QuantumLink Communications, Bombay, India

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mailman
by SP 10 May '02

10 May '02

Hi, With regards to Mailman mailing list manager.... (1) How should set the TO field to show the recipient's email address instead of list's email address. (2) How can I remove the Mailman related lines from the email header. --SP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

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OT - Super cool display!
by kishor bhagwat 10 May '02

10 May '02

guys, jus telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl...and watch the fun! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com

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[COMMERCIAL] Job opening
by Parag Someshwar 10 May '02

10 May '02

Hi all, This post is related to a job opening at QuantumLink Communications Pvt. Ltd., Mumbai. We are looking for an experienced (2+ years) Systems & Network Administrator, initmately familiar with the Linux platform. The candidate should have been responsible for, and managed, mission critical Linux servers. The candidate should have a thorough knowledge of networking and email services in particular. He/she should be proficient at PERL & shell scripting. C programming knowledge could be an asset. Those interested should email their resumes to the following address - parag(a)qlcomm.com. Please reply to this mail offlist. Thanks, Parag Someshwar Email : parag(a)qlcomm.com Web : http://qlc.co.in/ Ph. no.: +91-22-4986445 -------------------------------------------------------------- QuantumLink Communications, Bombay, India

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Re Fetchmail problem
by noel seq 10 May '02

10 May '02

From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> Sometime on May 7, noel seq assembled some asciibets to say: >My fetchmail logs onto the server and downloads the mail, but after it >downloads, it gives me the following errors: SMTP < 451 unable to exec qq >(#4.30) SMTP listener refused delivery your local sendmail isn't allowing fetchmail to deliver mails. try manually sending a message through sendmail. you may have to reconfigure sendmail, or easier, just tel fetchmail to use procmail for delivery. -- Yup, i realise that qmail-inject does not do the job and gives the error and may have to reconfigure qmail . How am I to make fetchmail use procmail for delivery. Regards, Noel _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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sendmail + fetchmail
by acharya＠dacafe.com 10 May '02

10 May '02

Hi I have installed sendmail on linux 7.2 and configured fetchmail to fetch mails from pop space hosted on the net. I have two problem. 1)when mail from outside the domain r recived by the clients (outlook or outlook express)the time shown on the mail is of day after (like insted of 8th may it shows 9th may), But local for local mail the time is allright. We have checked system time, sendmail, pop3d and imap all time is shown proper. Do any know how to slove it. 2)in crontab we have set the time to fetch mail for every 20 mins. but it retrives mails evey 1.20 , 2.20, means on hourly baises.the statement is as follows. 0,20 * * * * /usr/bin/fetchmail -F help required in urgent basises. thanks _____________________________________________________________

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Re[2]: Public Domain, GPL, GFDL
by Vinay Pai 09 May '02

09 May '02

>> > don't think you can GPL this sig, unless you've got >> > the copyright on it. >> >> Well, can they publish it under GNU Free Documentation License? > the point is, no one but the original author can do that. if it is in > public domain, then it must remain so. the GPL or GFDL are more > restrictive than public domain. of course, now i'm starting to drag > levels. IMHO if its public domain, you /can/ release it under any license you wish, including one which says everyone who reads this sig must pay me a million bucks. However such relicensing is not likely to be effective since one can just obtaion the stuff from another source. Public domain means you can do pretty much anything you like with it, except perhaps claim that you are the original author. That includes releasing it under a more restrictive license. It was precisely to prevent this that GPL & Co. were drawn up.

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PC(P2) for Sale ...
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 09 May '02

09 May '02

Hi, i've got a pc (p-2 machine). The cost with SAmsung color monitor is nearly 10,500/- This includes: p2 333MHz, 32 MB RAM, New keyboard, new mouse, new motherboard new cdrom. For time being , i've put my 4.3 hdd. This machine has new CPU assembly and may have to be upgraded with: RAM, Sound Card,( external Modem if u need). The machine seems quite a good deal, if u r interested let me know ASAP. So may be the total cost will be: Actual price -> 10,500/- ( price from the person i am negotiating inclusive of above mentioned items) RAM -> 01,500/- (approx if u need to upgrade to 128MB) HDD(40GB) -> 02,000/-(approx if u need a bigger hard disk) SoundCard -> 01,400/-( sound card+ Speaker if required) Total -> 16,000/- approx.(Max) As of the day a new Celeron will cost u 18-20,000/- New P3/P4 will go around 30-34,000/- So Instead of investing a large sum , i think this can be a better deal. I've tested the machine, and it seems quite fast. The only problem being that of RAM. So let me know as soon as possible if u r interested. May be after 3-4 years u can go for a better mc. As of date P2 is more than enough for Home i think. Cheers, Darshan Classic: A book that everybody wants to have read, and nobody wants to read. =========================== _\ /_ / \ ===========================

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redhat 6.2 mail login problem at particular time
by Hiten Desai 09 May '02

09 May '02

I have a rhl 6.2 as our mail server sendmail 8.11 imap 2000 and twig amavis I am having problem at times when suddenly every body could not log in pop users imap users and twig users could not log in at particular time this happens about once a week but I am able to login on console I tried with restarting following services sendmail, apache and named but it doesnt work so I have to reboot the server after that every thing works fine but I dont know what is this problem I think this is at the operating system level anybody !! please help!! its really painfull to restart the server Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] information
by Tahir Hashmi 09 May '02

09 May '02

http://in.redhat.com/training/rhce/ --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed On Wed, 08 May 2002 13:31:39 varun talreja wrote: >Hi friends > i am interested and very much eager to give RED HAT Certification > but i am not able to get the information about that . any of u , could >please tell , what all papers r there in this certification , if possible >syllabus also and the most important the certification fees. > i shall be really greatfull for ur kindness > thanx >with regards >Varun Talreja >system engineer >CMC LIMITED >NEW DELHI-01 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > >

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Peru moves to free software, Microsoft objects, objection overruled
by Philip S Tellis 08 May '02

08 May '02

Read the letters and story at: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/1364 http://www.gnu.org.pe/resmseng.html http://www.gnu.org.pe/mscarta.html http://www.gnu.org.pe/proleyap.html This could be useful for our government too. Philip -- The Universe is populated by stable things. -- Richard Dawkins

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[COMMERCIAL]redHat7.3 available at LinuxCampus.net
by Linux CDs 08 May '02

08 May '02

Hello Luggers, RedHat 7.3 is available at LinuxCampus.net for Rs 50/- a cd. Shipping in BOMBAY is Rs 50/- ***We use BRANDED CDS ONLY*** Mahesh Adnani LinuxCampus.net http://www.linuxcampus.net . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

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information
by varun talreja 08 May '02

08 May '02

Hi friends i am interested and very much eager to give RED HAT Certification but i am not able to get the information about that . any of u , could please tell , what all papers r there in this certification , if possible syllabus also and the most important the certification fees. i shall be really greatfull for ur kindness thanx with regards Varun Talreja system engineer CMC LIMITED NEW DELHI-01 _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Configuring CyberRoam problems?
by it Force 08 May '02

08 May '02

i am facing problems configuring cyber-roam client for linux. i get the following error message after giving in the login name and password 'You are not allowed to login from this client' or something of this sort. plz. let me know if anyone comes across this same problem, or has a solution for the same. _________________________________________________________ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Buying a Laptop to use Linux
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 08 May '02

08 May '02

hi, i am planning to buy a laptop to use Linux on it.which brand among the present breed offers the best support for Linux with respect to hardware compatibility. are there any up-to-date resources on the web which i can look into. also just as an after thought i am just curious as to how the Apple Powerbook which has the BSD core and the Mac interface compare to a normal laptop running Linux. my curiosity stems from the fact that its my guess that the Mac OS X would allow me to run most of the GUI based programs available for Linux or BSD and at the same time allow me to use M$ products for the Mac like MS Office (well... all us still use a little bit of M$ everyday) regards NDK _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Buying a Laptop to use Linux
by Tahir Hashmi 07 May '02

07 May '02

On Tue, 7 May 2002 11:17:45 Prakash Shetty wrote: > >Never argue with an idiot. First they drag you to thier own level and then >they beat you with experience. > Damn good one, Prakash! --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Cyber-Roam denying access?
by it Force 07 May '02

07 May '02

my cyber-roam client gives me 'You are not allowed to access from this terminal' or something of this sort of message. has any1 got something similar? plz. let me know.? _________________________________________________________ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Emacs Manual
by Q u a s i 06 May '02

06 May '02

I think someone, (Krishnan I think), had printed out the Emacs manual about a year ago. If anyone has a copy, could I borrow it for Xeroxing? cheers, quasi

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Web Apps
by Amol Hatwar 05 May '02

05 May '02

Hi, I have been for long interested in making a Content Management System. I learnt PHP, after a few hundered lines of code... *documented* I began to realsie the pitfalls. Everything looked just like greek. At the same time I find it quite amusing too see so many CMSs and portal systems out there have been built using PHP. I believe quite a good number of you must have tried alternatives like mod_python on Apache, or perhaps even J2EE... I'd love to know how they scale up with regards to PHP. Amol Hatwar. _________________________________________________________ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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[OT] Important do read it !! Some kinda virus or prank
by noel seq 27 Apr '02

27 Apr '02

Whats worse is that despite having Amavis+ MCAfee with the latest dat, the virus is not detected by my mail server and the mail is being passed on to the clients. Anybody else having similar problem. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Good n/w monitor
by SP 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Hi All, Does any one know of a good network scanner which will tell me more about the traffic in my network, congestions / which port / application is throwing more packets, any leaks etc. I tried downloading IRIS, but was unable to form thier site. Any other network Traffic analyzer ?? SP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/

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[OT] Yahoo mail users - check your privacy settings
by Philip S Tellis 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

As of today, yahoo's new mail terms came into effect. Meaning, free pop3 access was shut off. That's not all that's happened though. Yahoo has also changed their privacy policy, so unless you go to the website and change your privacy settings, you could find that your yahoo address, your alternate address, and even your phone number have been sold to advertisers. Read the full story at http://www.sunspot.net/technology/pluggedin/bal-pl.himowitz25apr25.column?c… Philip -- Hey! Let's do that 2,000-pound man thing. I'll be that Carl Reiner guy, and you be what's-his-face. -- Homer Simpson Homer vs. Patty and Selma

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] squid
by acharya＠dacafe.com 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

thanks, Ashok, I tried with webmin first. Got confused will try as said. Thanks for u r help. _____________________________________________________________

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squid
by acharya＠dacafe.com 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Hi everyone can anyone help me out how to configure squid proxy to auth user and restrict them. how to do it through mac address. i am not good at linux so pls any easy method or some tool. priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________

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AbiWord 1.0
by Tahir Hashmi 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

Hi All! AbiWord 1.0 has been released on 18 April '02 and RPMs are available for RedHat 7.2. If anyone has tried it out please send in some reviews, especially about AbiWord-GNOME. http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/1019174687/ Thankyou --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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[OT] Important do read it !! Some kinda virus or prank
by Mitul Limbani 25 Apr '02

25 Apr '02

Hey guys, i have been recieving mails which has a size of some 127K or 250K and the whole mail with header just looks like this ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: <frank(a)giasbm01.vsnl.net.in> Delivered-To: mitul(a)mitul.com Received: (qmail 15675 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2002 11:43:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.com) (202.149.217.214) by ns7.nttindia.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2002 11:43:04 -0000 Received: from Dvcrcvqib ([192.168.1.242]) by www.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:08:58 +0530 From: prakash <prakash(a)freeos.com> To: mitul(a)mitul.com Subject: Worm Klez.E immunity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Fi6021GV119p61iJ Return-Path: frank(a)giasbm01.vsnl.net.in Message-Id: <SERVER2000tox7nyeKz00000106(a)www.com> X-Originalarrivaltime: 25 Apr 2002 11:38:58.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9C6F220:01C1EC4D] Date: 25 Apr 2002 17:08:58 +0530 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess some guy who has an email frank(a)giasbm01.vsnl.net.in has spread some kinda email virus which goes on sending mails to all ppl in the address book....dont know if it attacks on pine or windoze i m on webmail so dont know the remote sender client... but pls be beware of such mails and do delete off i guess u should better clean up your systems too to see wat is going on ... Best Regards, -Mitul Limbani (mitul 2 mitul.com)

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sendmail log analyzer
by Hiten Desai 25 Apr '02

25 Apr '02

Hi! I would like to know about sendmail log analyzer which can check unused accounts on rh 6.2 or any other scripts with which one can find of unused email accounts for certain fixed time Regards Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/

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Router config page and linux
by Satya 24 Apr '02

24 Apr '02

So there's a router separating the private network from the internet. I've got a Linux box (gort) and a Windows box (wintermutex) and others (all Windows, none important) on the private network. The router's a Linksys BEFSR81 (I think that's the model number) (8 port). It has a web-based password protected only-from-the-inside configuration. All the Windows boxes, including wintermutex, can access this page. Trying to get there from gort doesn't work -- it's like the port is closed. nmap says the port *is* closed. telnet router 80 yields an unable to connect. *Everything* else works as it should. What could be wrong? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> My other sig is a 4000 line perl program.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by Dinesh Shah 23 Apr '02

23 Apr '02

Hi, Here is the White paper http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html Why Open Source Software / Free Software (OSS/FS)? Look at the Numbers! By David A. Wheeler dwheeler(a)dwheeler.com Revised as of April 16, 2002 This paper provides quantitative data that, in many cases, using open source software / free software is a reasonable or even superior approach to using their proprietary competition according to various measures. This paper examines market share, reliability, performance, scaleability, security, and total cost of ownership. It also has sections on non-quantitative issues, unnecessary fears, and other sites providing related information, and ends with some conclusions. -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Off-topic Ph.D in Science Education
by Nagarjuna G. 23 Apr '02

23 Apr '02

I am posting this here, with the hope some of you may be interested in working for Ph.D in Knowledge Organization and Science Education (Using AI for science education). http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/main/PhD/phdadmn Nagarjuna

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What is a Memory Barrier
by Shirish Chandra Pal 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

Hi, Can anybody explain what is a memory barrier? I was scanning through some of the sample code of module implementation. In many places author has called a macro 'mb()'. Without any detail comments author has said 'a memeory barrier is required...'. I found that mb is defined as 'do{;} while(0)' ----- Shirish(a)antara.net

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by Tahir Hashmi 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 23:41:09 aaaaarrrgghhh wrote: >If i'm a company like Infosys/SAP, then I'm designing software to make >companies more productive.. There's a catch here - you've got to distinguish between products and services. A Word Processor is a software that can be used by n number of people without any changes done to the underlying source. OTOH, what Infosys/SAP would do is develop systems that apply to one specific customer and using the same techniques in another environment would again involve a lot of analysis and what-have-you for deployment. There are two pieces to this solution now - the Concept and the Software. You can't keep the Concept under wraps. The SEs at the client location have to know how your system works. The Software may be closed source but it won't make much of a difference if another party lifted your Software and Concept and tried to deploy it at another location because the analysis will have to be redone, the implementation will have to be redesigned to fit the other client and the software itself will have to be tweaked. Infosys charges according to man-hours spent on a project. Anyone who has been thru a complete development cycle knows that analysis, design, maintenance and support take far more man-hours than coding. So if I'm a Free Software counterpart of Infosys, I still earn a lot for my man-hours in other aspects. Where products are concerned, I follow the concept of one contributor to Free Software (regretfully, I forgot his name) - it makes a lot of economic sense to me if I give one app away in exchange of an entire OS and so many more apps for free. Perhaps, now you'd understand Philip's concept of "Cost per User". --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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US Dept of Energy to run Linux
by |= n I y A N T =| 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

hi, here's a relevant news-story ... since vr having this thread about govt promoting / adopting linux ... ppl involved in this initiative might find it useful ... ny ============================================= The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) has ordered a $24.5 million supercomputer running the Linux operating system for its facility in Richland, Washington, it announced Tuesday. http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/04/18/doe.linux.idg/index.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Qmail books
by Amol Hatwar 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 Shankar Ramchandran wrote : >Dear all > >I need to set up an email server for my network. I would like to >know if >there are any good books that will explain installation, >configuration, and >tuning of qmail that you may recommend. Why not search amazon.com? :P _________________________________________________________ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem with Cookies support
by Amol Hatwar 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Amol Hatwar <amolhatwar(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > And as far as I know cookies have > > always been a > > problem when using proxies. >[snip] > my dear pal... > not necessarily.....usin transparent >proxyin...MASQ....SQUID....is the best soln. My own [snip :) ] I thought I was replying in apache's context :D. Amol Hatwar. _________________________________________________________ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Promoting Linux
by Keyur Shroff 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Hi Friends, A good news is that our central government is also taking deep interest in promoting Linux in all area. Government wants various agencies to give some feedback on the information related to Linux. They have sent a draft to NCST also. I think this mailing list is the best place where I can post the questions and get answers so that I can forward the information to our government. Please give as much input as you can. I am directing the revised information/feedback format on "Linux India Initiatives" for your kind consideration and input. The format is as follows : "Linux India Initiatives" Information may kindly be furnised under the following heads : 1. Linux - The need; 2. Demand profile segments - such as Home, Education, Research, Govt, Defence, Business, Embedded systems etc. 3. Present scenario (International) vs competing products 4. Issues to resolve : (i) Indian Language Support (ii) Security (iii) Awareness/education (iv) Certification (v) Standardisation (vi) Service Model vs product model (vii) Identification of minimal set of application 5. Transition strategy - Unix to Linux, legacy port 6. Consortium for linux based collaborative Development? The Li18nux, OSDL, LSB...? 7. Action Plan Kindly send your views/comments as soon as possible. Thanks, Keyur

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem with Cookies support
by Amol Hatwar 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

>Hi, Yea hi ><VirtualHost 192.9.200.203> > >ServerName 192.9.200.203 > >RewriteEngine On > ..... Ok you are using Apache as a proxy >Now the problem here is this particular website has made cookies >support manditory and this has created a lot of problem because >every time the user connect and a cookies is sent to this user >the cookies is sent with company.com. Since the cookies doesnt >get registered every hit of his to this website keeps sending him >new cookies. OK... You should try reading the docs that come with the software fisrt. You'll get all your answers in the apache documentation for the proxy module. And as far as I know cookies have always been a problem when using proxies. Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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Its all in the head!
by Amol Hatwar 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Hi, I have been following the pieces on convincing the Govt. to use GNU/Linux very closely. First, the factor of spending US$ is a logical one. Second, use GNU/Linux for most of my work and the learning curve has been steep-but I enjoy it. Ideally the Govt. should use GNU/Linux. But I wonder if the point just ends there. Leave training the babus apart, someone or some pressure has to be put for learning things. Who'll do this? Perhaps we could make a easier to use interface for the babus to use. But many people still doubt the capabilities of loosely connected programmers using the Net to develop real life programs. Linux itself has been through this stage. Its my general observation that many people who do use Linux and related technologies in the ring mainly do so because of the sense of adventure of trying something out thats cheaper, powerful, open and scaleable. Also there is a huge amount of self-motivation involved. On the other hand people generally get attracted to Windoze because of the eye-candy. They say it's more productive. Still, I see people around me in offices and big firms with a Compaq or an MNC brand desktop catching dust (*Kya karu Amol seekhne ko time nahi milta*). I see training camps that are arranged for people to get on to the new electronic system-happy smiles during the lunch and after a day or two everyone snaps back to the old method of work, the lunch digested well. Sometimes its just the other way. Firms think their new software is rancid (*grrr... Amol I can't even enter a mobile number in it*). They go for a new system with guarantees of SLAs and a thousand pages of Requirement Specs and a dozen of prototypes are tested. The thing ships. Somehow people are just not enthusiastic about it anymore. They know deep inside that there's been a mistake somewhere but they refuse to accept it. They still get the work done somehow with a Chandu from the Software Devloper's on permanent deputation in the firm. I have seen most of the projects on Windoze come to this. So I think the issue is far from convincing here. It's more about motivation and taking interest. If we can make the babus feel motivated to make the decision, there will be no reason why they wouldn't make it. Of course, someone will have to make the applications for them probably without any of the above glitches and deliver it in time. Maybe making and supporting applications for a sum will be a place where the almost undoable babu-hunger can be satisfied in someway. I feel this area is a bit more sensitive. Probably because our Govt. can take the responsibilities and shove it on to other peoples backs. The Armed forces have suuferred a plenty because of the glitches higher up. But here, the babus themselves will have to use the things they pay and decide for. No matter what the platform-who will save the babus if they are not motivated? Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux.....let the babus use it 1st..;)
by Dinesh Shah 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Hi, On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Trevor Warren wrote: > can i suggest 1 thing pliss...;) > "A satisfied Customer is the BEST Advertising tool > any enterprise can hire...."...not tru in all cases > tho...;) > > Dude..letz get the babus to use it 1st and DEMO to > them that all their daily server/desktop needs can b > done using Free SOftware.....The industry behind the > services perspective will alwayz b there......ANd > believe me dude... And how do you plan to make them use any thing? > once the Govt sees that Support/Service is > available.....all the aprehensions will be drawn away. > So lets aske for a dept to start Gnu-linuxing ASAP. > The rest we can plan out.... Have you approached any department? > Trevor Warren With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Problem with Cookies support
by volu gina 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Hi, Every person in the my organisation does not have internet connectivity provided for them. To allow access to certain websites we have an apache configured which helps us do it. Here is one such configuration for accessing one particular website. When any user needs to access this website he keys his url as http://192.9.200.203 and accesses the website without even knowing that he is accessing the website on the internet since the url will always show up as http://192.9.200.203/xxxx. Below is the config for the same. <VirtualHost 192.9.200.203> ServerName 192.9.200.203 RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.company.com$1 [P,L] ProxyPass / http://www.company.com/ ProxyPassReverse / http://www.company.com/ ProxyRemote http://www.company.com/ http://192.9.200.34:80 </VirtualHost> Now the problem here is this particular website has made cookies support manditory and this has created a lot of problem because every time the user connect and a cookies is sent to this user the cookies is sent with company.com. Since the cookies doesnt get registered every hit of his to this website keeps sending him new cookies. I cannot create a dummy dns entry like local.company.com instead of the ip address 192.9.200.203 because I do not have a local dns server put in place here. Any suggestions as to how can I enable .company.com cookies to work on such a setup. Thanks in Advance. Cheers, Volly. --------------------------------- Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop

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[OT] VPN with two invalid IPs
by Amish Mehta 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Hi, I want to connect my home and office computers(atleast share files, full TCP/IP would be best). But the problem is both computers have invalid IPs 172.16.x.x and I do not have control over gateways to setup VPN(one on in2 cable network, other on star cable network). I can keep both computers on 24 hrs, having access to internet via their local gateways. But I do not know how they will find each other. Currently I manually email and download files but is there a way I can actually FTP to and fro? Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] networking problem
by Tahir Hashmi 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:00:15 ketan shah wrote: > >at one time only one program runs unless we use >multithreading.is there any command in linux which >will run both programs at same time > Run the server, it waits for the client to send requests. Run the client. Period. If your server requires the client to be started _simultaneously_ it's broken. Can you please be more specific about your problem to get more meaningful answers than this one? --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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[commercial] RHCE course material
by Philip S Tellis 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Does anyone have RHCE course material either soft copy or hard copy, and is willing to share it, please contact me off list.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by Dinesh Shah 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Hi, Here are my thoughts on "what government should do to promote Free and Open Source softwares in India". The Government in most countries are BIG buyers in IT. Being a BIG buyers gives them the leverage vis-a-vis the dictating terms on the vendors. The Indian Government can use this leverage to boost Free and Open Source software by defining purchase policies of their needs. The Government purchases can be classified in to two categories - Defense and Non-Defense IT purchases. The Government can lay down following buying policy in their tendering procedures. Defense Purchases : The tenders for these purchases should ask for solutions rather then a specific product from a specific company. This will provide level playing field to all competing product or service vendors, whether Free/Open Source or Proprietary. The tenders for these purchases should accompany the source code for the products. This needs to be mandatory as it relates to defense and security of the product should be paramount in nature. The security can only be ascertained if the source code is available. Non-Defense Purchases : As with non-defense purchase, the tenders for purchase should ask for solutions rather then a specific product. This tender can have a voluntary clause for providing source code for the product. However, it should mandate that a product which accompanies source code will be preferred over non-availability of source code. If the above policy guide lines are followed as is or with required modifications it will lead to Get superior, robust, scalable and easy to use IT Solution Lower IT acquisition cost for the Government Efficient use of "scares" resources Enhanced SECURITY Possible savings in nett foreign exchange outflow More employment opportunities for the people as focus shifts from products to services. Providing "level playing field" to all vendors Reducing governance and leveraging purchase power of the Government Promotion of Free and Open Source software The same priority should be there for private sector as well. HTH With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Promoting Linux : Govt and Education, Demo needed
by jitendra 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

I have been in touch with the Mah Government authorities and have found many takers for good ideas , particularly Linux since it is free. However , since I am new to the Linux community, I have not been able to gather the demo capability. I am trying thru a small setup in Powai. I am ready to arrange the demo , even use some BE grad students to work , if someone can help in the following or tell me how exactly to go about it What is urgently needed is 1> OS level : Tiny linux : apparently specifically designed to work on old (even 386) machines. Even if it works on P-I or similar there is good scope to convince schools and Govt to consider adopting. 2> Applications level : If only unicode/ISO standard based editors can be demonstrated with GUI . Similarly spreadsheets. 3> Content level: a> School Educational The government hs come out with a Teachers manual (about 50 pages) which I have a copy of , for the 9th and 10th standard IT course. The manual is shabby by all standards. But the content can be made far better if we adapt the content to Linux based stuff. It contains wordprocessor, Basic language and some smattering of 'internet'. It is in english. The alternative would be a CD based, multimedia rich and video-intensive Cd making teacher feel absolutelly comfortable. It need not be very polished or commercial quality video. b> Governance: some application that can help the rural folks to prepare village population data base and use the same for filling typical forms like birth-certificate, death certificate,request for land-records like 7/12 extract etc. There are about 94 forms that the govt would be keen that people give electronically. Dont presume everyone in the authority will be warm to such happenings. But it is feasible. c> Watershed and mapping: There is a great need for a small-time GIS facilty. We know how severe the water shortage is. At the same time it is known that only 4% of land consumes 70% of irrigation facilities created by dams. Half of nations dams are in maharashtra. The limit is someone (PK Patil ) has the temerity to suggest using sugarcane for cars as alcohol hich will cause further skew use of water and greater shortage of drinking water and thus a greater driving of resources from rural folks to urban folks.The facts , if on maps can be so stunning that such arguments will not be advanced. For that map-making must reach every school and every desktop. Can we localise GRASS or MyWorld(from Northwestern University) . It is only sad that institutions like IITs which have built a lot of software on Public money are unwilling to make their software 'freely' available . I hope some people will respond to this. I have simultaneously taken up a localisation project . It is an humble beginning. ( Refer Loksatta -Arthvrittant of 18 and 25 March for more details) Watch the site sourceforge.net/projects/gnuindia Jitendra

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FUD Against Proprietary software
by abhijeet 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Hi, This is in light of the current discussion to promote Gnu/Linux/Free Software in India. Microsoft uses the FUD..The Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt propoganda to suppress any form of free software. What we could do here is to spread FUD about illegally using proprietary software. How? Many users don't even know that they are doing something seriously illegal when they use proprietary software without a license. They need to be educated about this, maybe by setting up a few examples. When that happens I believe that users would think twice before choosing software that they are expected to pay for. And suddenly free software would be *the thing*. People knowing about it would be in demand. My point is that by enforcing license rules more stringently (which can be done at the government level) free software would have a lot to gain and we as people using free software should back people trying to enforce license policing. Not only that, I believe we should encourage(help?) them. This way there would be Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt in the mind of a prospective(illegal) user of proprietary software and we will have used M$'s stategy against them in the interest of our community. What say guys? Do you see the point? Though this may sound rather inflammatory, I believe it is important and the time has come that we take a step of the sort. We can make a start, by lets say not co-operating with people using proprietary software. We can talk about making a legal choice and asking people to either pay for a licensed copy of proprietary software or using free software (which would be legal). What that means is that if you own a copy of , lets say M$ Windoze, refuse to share it. And ofcourse if you can, However, I haven't been able to put this point in a manner that would be more conducive to a body like the government and I'm expecting someone on this list will, though it is rather late. It is important that the government see it this way. We can only spread the FUD.The government can enforce it. I hope people on the list see my point ciao abhijeet

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Promoting Linux
by RNS 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

Hi group, Trevor good work , but as Keyur said , try not to defame MS ( though they deserve to ) , remember who your audience are ( Somewhere u mentioned M$crosoft-please remove it). Moreover, few stuffs which ppl think makes win score over gnu-linux (atleast on thier desktop ) is user- friendlyness, though this hurdle has been tackled to large extend- ppl dont realize it. I think that has to b stressed more , along with linux strong points like security and upgradibility. Other stuffs seems to b fine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] invoking windows programs from linux server
by Amol Hatwar 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

>i have a situation where on a linux server i m running >a middleware system which is to invoke a COBOL >application on a windows 2000 server on the same >network. same network??? >how can i do it ? RMI ? or some listening application >needs to be installed on the win2K m/c that will >listen to linux servers request to run a program ? thats one possible way... but its too bad.. what language are u doing ur middle ware in? If you are using JAVA which I assume u must be using... try doing Native Methods and use a C wrapper for ur application... lengthy route... but you get a tight system. Regards, Rolla.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject)
by Amol Hatwar 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 SP wrote : >I am using 7.2 with XFS. >The GNOME login screen does not allow root login. >I need to login as any other user and then always "su" >to root. >Any help on this please. > >--SP I'd recommend 7.2 only on a P4... The problem is unuasual... I couldn't even replicate it.. :P. SP next time please give your mail a subject. Regards, Rolla.

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Promoting Linux In India
by Parimal B. Shah 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

I don't seem to fathom the fixation of comparing Desktops? To put it very simply Desktops are for personal users! In govt / educations / business uses the stress should be on purpose built applications. There is no need for fancy desktops! MS is a PERSONAL COMPUTER user (CONSUMER) oriented product. I have seen friends and colleagues buying upgrading their pcs just so that they can talk about it with your friends / colleagues who have just got it. Its like your wife demanding a fully loaded BMW to drop the child to the school just because your neighbour does it in her fully loaded MERC!! It the MO thing, MO GRAPHICS, MO MULTIMEDIA, MO MONEY ....... I bet 90% of the users don't use 90% of its features. Specially in case of India S/w for govt / education / etc it should be no - nonsense, no frills attached, lean and trim and think Linux fits the bill. Parimal Shah -----Original Message----- From: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-admin@mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: 16 April 2002 07:31 To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #451 - 10 msgs Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Promoting Linux (Philip S Tellis) 2. qmail book (Girish Hanchate) 3. Re: Promoting Linux (nici bhatt) 4. Re: qmail book (ranjeet(a)nttindia.com) 5. Re: qmail book (Parag Mehta) 6. Promoting Linux (RNS) 7. Re: Promoting Linux (Keyur Shroff) 8. Promoting Linux (Darshan.Wakchaure(a)lntinfotech.com) 9. Re: Promoting Linux......a la carte (Trevor Warren) 10. Re: Promoting Linux (Philip S Tellis) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:07:28 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> To: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Keyur Shroff wrote: > "Linux India Initiatives" > > Information may kindly be furnised under the following heads : > 1. Linux - The need; > 2. Demand profile segments - such as Home, Education, Research, Govt, > Defence, Business, Embedded systems etc. India is a developing country, and as such, we should look to finding low cost solutions while not compromising on quality. While our software industry has been successful world-wide in providing solutions for business consumers, software as a product remains too costly within our own country. We must also realise that much of the software in use within our country comes from outside. This in turn translates to a large sum of Indian Rupees flowing into foreign companies. Most proprietary software comes with a licence agreement that restricts the redistribution of the software. Persons who do redistribute the software, in violation of the licence, are labelled as software pirates. While it is accpeted that software piracy is a problem and must be curtailed, it is also possible that we aren't striking at the cause of the problem. What most software consumers fail to realise, is that software is not a product that one buys off the shelf like a tube of toothpaste. The reproduction costs of software are negligible and there are no raw materials involved. The software industry is therefore falls into the services sector rather than the manufacturing sector. More time is spent in providing support for software than is spent in developing it. Once this is understood, it becomes clear that the software itself should not be priced highly, but after sales service and support should be charged for. This is where the GNU/Linux system fits in. The licencing terms of this system state clearly that anyone has the right to obtain and redistribute copies of the system. The software is provided free of cost. This immediately affects the business of software pirates, as there is no way for them to sell at a lower price that which is already free. Further more, it translates into greater cost effectiveness for the consumer. There then arises the question of support and services, which is what this sector is all about. As mentioned earlier, software falls in the services sector, and therefore, the primary business for linux vendors is in providing services. This is one area in which India can play a big role, and provide these services to the rest of the world. As consumers too, one must realise the difference between support contracts for proprietary software and free software. Proprietary support agreements give you support only for the systems that you have purchased support for. In other words, if you own ten systems, but only have licences for five of them, you will get support for those five only. With free software, this is not the case. Any software contract that you sign with your vendor is independent of the number of copies of the software that you own. Most vendors will most likely just require that the distribution that you use was one published by them. There are several segments in which linux can play a major role, and is ready to do so at present. Linux and other free Unixen like *BSD have been very popular as servers. These systems are robust and have average uptimes that run into years. Add to this the ability of linux to emulate legacy file servers like Windows NT and Novell Netware (using samba and mars-nwe), and you have a system that can do well to replace any server running these systems. Businesses could do well to adopt it if only on the server side. The reduction in costs would be tremendous, and uptime would increase. One also needs to consider that a well set up linux system needs almost no system administration or maintenance. When considering client side applications of linux, we would need to divide the business sector into those that develop software, and those that use it. Software developers may need to use systems for which they develop, ie, someone developing for Windows would have to test his software on Windows. For persons who simply use software, it is much easier to use a linux based system. All software needed can be installed centrally, with client machines acting as simple X displays. This can significantly reduce the hardware requirements of the company, while also ensuring that a sysadmin needs to maintain only a single machine rather than the fifty machines that the company has. Most office productivity tools are available for linux. Word processors, spread sheets, and presentation utilities exist with several variants avaialable depending on your preferences. Legacy applications written for DOS or Windows can be run in emulated environments like dosemu or Wine. For research institutes, the main appeal of linux would have to be the large community that uses it and the spirit of sharing ideas between groups. In many ways, the development of the GNU/Linux system has proceeded in much the same way as science has progressed over the last two centuries. There is open collaboration between groups at distant locations with everyone benefitting. With large numbers of universities around the world using some variant of unix or linux as their base systems, persons in India could benefit from the existing knowledge and experiences of these. This large community of scientific users has resulted in a plethora of software written specifically to aid in research, and built to run on linux based systems. Educational institutes, at least those running courses on engineering and computers benefit for the same reasons. Additionally, students of computer science and engineering benefit from having the source code of a working operating system to look at and experiment with. Regardless of the field of computer science that they specialise in, having access to the source code for the tools they use and possibly try to develop will help them eventually. Another place where educational institutes can benefit is from the ready availability of projects that can be given to students as classroom assignments or semester projects. By working on an existing project, possibly collaborating with other developers around the world, the student gets a good idea of what it is like to work in a team and develop quality software, rather than writing the same old ten line assignments every year. Building a working software that is actually used by people, and then providing support to them builds in the student a sense of achievement and responsibility. This can only work towards producing a much more capable work force graduating from college every year. School education can also benefit from the use of linux. Cost reduction would be the primary reason. Schools would however benefit from the large amount of educational software available for linux. Students of higher classes can even be recruited to write software for students of lower classes. Computers are already taught in school at all levels, but what is taught leaves a lot to be desired. At present students learn to use specific software, as a result of which, they are none the wiser when confronted with a new system. Giving students some variety in what they learn, or even allowing them to learn how to get the job done rather than how to use a tool would leave them better off later in life. There is of course a lot more that I could write about this topic, but right now my eyes are closing and I can't stay focussed any longer. Will try and write something about why developers benefit from developing for free software. Ciao, Philip -- When we write programs that "learn", it turns out we do and they don't. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:19:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Girish Hanchate <girishhan(a)yahoo.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] qmail book Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi, can anybody suggest same good book on qmail on linux or any informative sites on qmail. Rgds girish __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "nici bhatt" <nici_bom(a)hotmail.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:51:30 +0000 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi It is really good to know that out government is willing to promote linux , it will be really good idea to push this at extreme level so no doubt can cause this idea a premature death. Here I have some points to raise my voice for, and they are as we should not make any point which make this operating system is nice for email,firewall and proxy...etc. specific as I have seen lots of people use linux for this purpose so my request to all of you is dont try to prove that by doing this we can save lots of money because we know that this true but on other side you are doing injustice to all open source developers who have put their efforts for porting other application and this full scal os limits to one corner. So moral of story please come out of this mind frame that this is all linux can do. There are lot many things that can be done. So keep vary general attitude and try to justify it commercially as well as technical aspect of the operating system, I mean limitation of other operating system, commercial and technical comparison chart and availability. I will defiantly like to write some article on this issue but that will take some time so till then you people can contribute lots . Happy usage of linux. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: ranjeet(a)nttindia.com To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:11:26 GMT Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: qmail book Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi girish. http://www.qmail.org/ http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ our trevor's SITE : (works very well) http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com/ now before posting always make sure that u have checked the LIST archives, www.google.com/linux. Don't just get spoonfeeded by others ..... they will like it if u do some part on ur own and come up with the difficulties while installing/configure/tweaking or something like it ..... if I'm wrong, please correct me luggers.. Regards, Ranjeet Girish Hanchate writes: > Hi, > > can anybody suggest same good book on qmail on linux > or any informative sites on qmail. > > Rgds > girish > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Parag Mehta" <pm(a)linuxindia.org> To: "linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:29:01 +0550 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] qmail book Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi Girish, lifewithqmail.org or book on qmail from sams publichers very good book.. best regards, pmehta On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:19:36 -0700 (PDT), Girish Hanchate wrote: >Hi, > >can anybody suggest same good book on qmail on linux >or any informative sites on qmail. > >Rgds >girish > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:35:55 +0530 (IST) From: RNS <shastrakar(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi group, Trevor good work , but as Keyur said , try not to defame MS ( though they deserve to ) , remember who your audience are ( Somewhere u mentioned M$crosoft-please remove it). Moreover, few stuffs which ppl think makes win score over gnu-linux (atleast on thier desktop ) is user- friendlyness, though this hurdle has been tackled to large extend- ppl dont realize it. I think that has to b stressed more , along with linux strong points like security and upgradibility. Other stuffs seems to b fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:21:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Hi Guys, Thanks for your valuable inputs. I have just sent them mail requesting them to give us one more day to send final draft. So tomorrow I'll reorganize contents given by many of you and then send it. By that time if you still want to add something please send your mails by tomorrow before 1 PM. Thanks, Keyur --__--__-- Message: 8 To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux From: Darshan.Wakchaure(a)lntinfotech.com Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:14:30 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000EE73665256B9C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, A little more from my side too. Linux is/should be treated just like anyother Desktop OS. Like Unix and Windows , Linux can be made as a server with much more flexible environment . At the same time this OS has more more power as a Desktop OS as compared to any other operating system in the market. The strength lies in understanding and working with the utilities provided by the open source community. These are simple marvellous. Also the graphics resolution on the desktop of this os is far better than Windows. Linux gives the feel of Unix and the easy of Windows- a perfect os. Cheers, Darshan The trouble with life is, you're half way through it before you realize it's a "do it yourself" thing. =========================== _\ /_ mail-me-at : darshanw(a)blackcodemail.com / \ =========================== --=_alternative 000EE73665256B9C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br> Hi,</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">A little more from my side too. Linux is/should be treated just like anyother Desktop OS. Like Unix and Windows , Linux can be made as a server with much more flexible environment . At the same time this OS has more more power as a Desktop OS as compared to any other operating system in the market. The strength lies in understanding and working with the utilities provided by the open source community. These are simple marvellous.</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Also the graphics resolution on the desktop of  this os is far better than Windows. Linux gives the feel of Unix and the easy of Windows- a perfect os. </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Cheers,<br> Darshan</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The trouble with life is, you're half way through it before you realize it's a "do it yourself" thing. <br> ===========================<br> _\ /_    mail-me-at : darshanw(a)blackcodemail.com<br>   / \<br> ===========================</font> <br> --=_alternative 000EE73665256B9C_=-- --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux......a la carte To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in --- Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> wrote: > From: Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Many many thanks Mr Trevor Warren. You have >nicely [snip] hello there Mr. Keyur, Trevor here......... U can just say sir, i am just doin my bit for the community that has given me somethin that i live for and i am proud to be part of. I think Philip has put forward some very good points wich you could make incorporate in ur presentation abt Linux advocacy. If there is anyway i may help to push Free Software usage in our upcoming policies of E-governance .........just mail me nd let me know. Attack will b the buzz word...;) Trevor Warren > put your > thoughts. It seems to me that not many people on > this list are > really interested in promoting Linux. Or that they > have not taken this > very seriously. Or they don't have much faith in our > Government. > Thanks and regards, > Keyur ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:46:14 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> To: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sometime Today, Trevor Warren assembled some asciibets to say: > Open source software is different from traditional software in that > it holds no secrets -- the software's 'source code' is free for the > end user to examine, modify, or build on. With traditional Not true. Open source simply gives you access to the source code. It makes no provision for the modification or redistribution of that code. Free software gives you that freedom. > The Internet itself is Open Source Software's poster child, since > it was constructed of components built almost exclusively under the > Open Source model. Many, in fact, have likened Linux today to the > Internet in 1990 (used only by the technically savvy, seeing yearly > exponential growth, completely open, and perhaps poised to take over > the world). The seeds for the Internet were sown in 1969. It grew as a large experiment and yes, was used by geeks and scientists only. > Open Source is doing what God, government, and market have failed to > do. It is putting powerful technology within the reach of cash-poor Well, not what God, or government have failed to do. It's just that corporates have tried to stop it forever. The concept of free software has been around as long as there have been programmers. Proprietary software is only about 30 years old. Philip --__--__-- _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers End of Linuxers Digest

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(no subject)
by SP 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

I am using 7.2 with XFS. The GNOME login screen does not allow root login. I need to login as any other user and then always "su" to root. Any help on this please. --SP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Promoting Linux In India
by Parimal B. Shah 17 Apr '02

17 Apr '02

I don't seem to fathom the fixation of comparing Desktops? To put it very simply Desktops are for personal users! In govt / educations / business uses the stress should be on purpose built applications. There is no need for fancy desktops! MS is a PERSONAL COMPUTER user (CONSUMER) oriented product. I have seen friends and colleagues buying upgrading their pcs just so that they can talk about it with your friends / colleagues who have just got it. Its like your wife demanding a fully loaded BMW to drop the child to the school just because your neighbour does it in her fully loaded MERC!! It the MO thing, MO GRAPHICS, MO MULTIMEDIA, MO MONEY ....... I bet 90% of the users don't use 90% of its features. Specially in case of India S/w for govt / education / etc it should be no - nonsense, no frills attached, lean and trim and think Linux fits the bill. Parimal Shah

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux......a la carte
by Trevor Warren 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

--- Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> wrote: > From: Keyur Shroff <keyur(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Many many thanks Mr Trevor Warren. You have >nicely [snip] hello there Mr. Keyur, Trevor here......... U can just say sir, i am just doin my bit for the community that has given me somethin that i live for and i am proud to be part of. I think Philip has put forward some very good points wich you could make incorporate in ur presentation abt Linux advocacy. If there is anyway i may help to push Free Software usage in our upcoming policies of E-governance .........just mail me nd let me know. Attack will b the buzz word...;) Trevor Warren > put your > thoughts. It seems to me that not many people on > this list are > really interested in promoting Linux. Or that they > have not taken this > very seriously. Or they don't have much faith in our > Government. > Thanks and regards, > Keyur ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Promoting Linux
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

Hi, A little more from my side too. Linux is/should be treated just like anyother Desktop OS. Like Unix and Windows , Linux can be made as a server with much more flexible environment . At the same time this OS has more more power as a Desktop OS as compared to any other operating system in the market. The strength lies in understanding and working with the utilities provided by the open source community. These are simple marvellous. Also the graphics resolution on the desktop of this os is far better than Windows. Linux gives the feel of Unix and the easy of Windows- a perfect os. Cheers, Darshan The trouble with life is, you're half way through it before you realize it's a "do it yourself" thing. =========================== _\ /_ mail-me-at : darshanw(a)blackcodemail.com / \ ===========================

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qmail book
by Girish Hanchate 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

Hi, can anybody suggest same good book on qmail on linux or any informative sites on qmail. Rgds girish __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by nici bhatt 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

Hi It is really good to know that out government is willing to promote linux , it will be really good idea to push this at extreme level so no doubt can cause this idea a premature death. Here I have some points to raise my voice for, and they are as we should not make any point which make this operating system is nice for email,firewall and proxy...etc. specific as I have seen lots of people use linux for this purpose so my request to all of you is dont try to prove that by doing this we can save lots of money because we know that this true but on other side you are doing injustice to all open source developers who have put their efforts for porting other application and this full scal os limits to one corner. So moral of story please come out of this mind frame that this is all linux can do. There are lot many things that can be done. So keep vary general attitude and try to justify it commercially as well as technical aspect of the operating system, I mean limitation of other operating system, commercial and technical comparison chart and availability. I will defiantly like to write some article on this issue but that will take some time so till then you people can contribute lots . Happy usage of linux. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Promoting Linux
by Suryaprakash Kompalli 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

Hey Keyur - This is my 2pence - (subject to critical review of the grp :)) Im sorry for the late reply, though, man - Under the heading Demand profile segments - Education - Competent training in the academia demands the availability of wide range of resources. These resources need to be in the form of example source code, Workable Systems, whose internals can be studied. As an example, Many US universities, have switched from Unix based classes in Operating Systems to Linux and GNU - Based OS, because of the free availability of source code and the opportunity for students to experiment with a reconfigurable system. Students in many Indian universities and colleges too are demanding the prescence of such reconfigurable labs in their premises. If there is official coursework that enables them to use such resources, it would be a great help. Linux and GNU - Software provides to the academia an excellent platform to test their skills, learn and apply them to real-time situations. The usage of GNU - based software in scientific fields like Supercomputing, Image Processing, AI, and other related fileds is already very widespread - it only to be identified. Most of the toolboxes developed by US university labs (and other universities too) includes OSC s/w. Support for OSC is not just in the form of company-based support as in proprietory s/w like windows. Due to the OSC nature of the s/w resources, A large number of user and help groups are available online. This takes education out of the classroom - Making knowledge widely available and affordable. Usage of Linux in the academia is not something that needs numbers to prove itself. It is pure common sense - The academia needs the most information and knowledge it can get - and OSC provides at every student the support, help and encouragement of thousands of OSC programmers all over the world. Need we say more? Hey yes - forgot to add - Lets see a non-OSC s/w do its' thing like OSC s/w does on a REALLY old machine - OSC software exists that can run on very basic systems - Very cheap systems could be of great use to educational organizations. This will enable even wider reach of resources at a lower cost. Action Plan - Introduce Linux and OSC based s/w as a defacto standard in Indian educational institutes. Developing coursework that encourages students to use such systems, and more importantly, learn how such systems are different from non-OSC systems. Encourage the use and development of re-distributable toolboxes among research organizations. Enjoy!!!! Bye, SP On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Keyur Shroff wrote: > Hi Friends, > > A good news is that our central government is also taking deep > interest in promoting Linux in all area. Government wants various > agencies to give some feedback on the information related to > Linux. They have sent a draft to NCST also. > > I think this mailing list is the best place where I can post the > questions and get answers so that I can forward the information to our > government. Please give as much input as you can. > > I am directing the revised information/feedback format on "Linux > India Initiatives" for your kind consideration and input. The format > is as follows : > > "Linux India Initiatives" > > Information may kindly be furnised under the following heads : > 1. Linux - The need; > 2. Demand profile segments - such as Home, Education, Research, Govt, > Defence, Business, Embedded systems etc. > 3. Present scenario (International) vs competing products > 4. Issues to resolve : > (i) Indian Language Support > (ii) Security > (iii) Awareness/education > (iv) Certification > (v) Standardisation > (vi) Service Model vs product model > (vii) Identification of minimal set of application > 5. Transition strategy - Unix to Linux, legacy port > 6. Consortium for linux based collaborative Development? > The Li18nux, OSDL, LSB...? > 7. Action Plan > > Kindly send your views/comments as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > Keyur > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > __ __ |__ |__| |/ __|urya |rakash |\ompalli Email - kompalli(a)cse.buffalo.edu Finger - kompalli(a)cse.buffalo.edu Phone - Home - (716) 862 0366 (67,Lisbon Ave,BUF) - Work - (716) 645 6164 X 519 (CEDAR, UB Commons) Website - http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~kompalli

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIP] Getting the yahoo protocol - updat
by Tahir Hashmi 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

http://sprint.bantu.com This is an applet based messenger that works with Yahoo! --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: VPN with two invalid IPs
by nici bhatt 15 Apr '02

15 Apr '02

hi please give us more info as even client side also you will require nating or public IP address so can you elaborate your case. as this is possible vpn with nating will work fine, If you are not using new kernel then you have to have port forwarding mechanisam other wise this will not work through nating. so please give more details about your network. nici >From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: VPN with two invalid IPs >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:49:36 +0600 > >+++ Amish Mehta [01/04/02 17:46 +0530]: > > Hi, > > > > I want to connect my home and office computers(atleast share files, > > full TCP/IP would be best). But the problem is both computers > > have invalid IPs 172.16.x.x and I do not have control over gateways to >The invalid IP range will not be a problem. Just ensure that they are in >different subnets. >At least one of the systems will need a static IP address. >Run the VPN server on this system. The other system will act as a client. > > > setup VPN(one on in2 cable network, other on star cable network). I > > can keep both computers on 24 hrs, having access to internet via > > their local gateways. But I do not know how they will find each other. >One of them needs a static IP address, > > > Currently I manually email and download files but is there a way I > > can actually FTP to and fro? >I would recommend scp actually, but you need the VPN first. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >People are very flexible and learn to adjust to strange >surroundings -- they can become accustomed to read Lisp and >Fortran programs, for example. >- Leon Sterling and Ehud Shapiro, Art of Prolog, MIT Press >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CyberRoam Linux Client
by Amish Mehta 14 Apr '02

14 Apr '02

Hi, Can you give us the official link? Or you managed to get it from your cablewala? Thanks. Amish. Trevor Warren wrote: >--> Luggers..this is the CyberRoam software that has > http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com/rel/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: VPN with two invalid IPs
by Amish Mehta 14 Apr '02

14 Apr '02

Devdas Bhagat wrote: > >+++ Amish Mehta [01/04/02 17:46 +0530]: >> Hi, >> >> I want to connect my home and office computers(atleast share files, >> full TCP/IP would be best). But the problem is both computers >> have invalid IPs 172.16.x.x and I do not have control over gateways to >The invalid IP range will not be a problem. Just ensure that they are in >different subnets. >At least one of the systems will need a static IP address. >Run the VPN server on this system. The other system will act as a client. Yes IPs are static but NOT valid. I think you mean valid and not static. Btw I dont think different subnet is required as far as I can route IP packets to VPN interface. The problem is I dont have control over gateways(who masquerade my packets) so I cannot setup simple forwarding to VPN. Amish.

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Re: [gtkyahoo-devel] Re: [LIP] Getting the yahoo protocol - updates and request for help
by Philip S Tellis 14 Apr '02

14 Apr '02

Sometime on Apr 12, Jeremy Zawodny assembled some asciibets to say: > You can try crashing mine ('jzawodn'). I should have debug version of > the official client that will help out here. Well, I can't do that because I can't login anymore - YPSN2 isn't supported. -- It's hard to drive at the limit, but it's harder to know where the limits are. -- Stirling Moss

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Re[3]: [ILUG-BOM] Yahoo off again
by Vinay Pai 13 Apr '02

13 Apr '02

>> However, it can be immune to a passive attack, i.e. simply listening >> to communications go back and forth. To break it one would need to >> reverse-engineer the Yahoo program. > > Not necessarily. Just a thought - the libcrypto library being used is > free software, so why not just restrict our tracing to what goes into > and what comes out of MD5_* functions. That should give us a fair idea > of how the hash is being generated. I've done a preliminary analysis, > and judging by the number of calls to MD5_Update, I'm guessing that this > is almost identical to how pam generates passwords. What's the > probability that yahoo would use the same tried and tested algorithm > rather than develop their own? Hmm.. if they're using libcrypto then I suppose it should be possible to trace it and break the protocol... basically catch the stuff before it gets hashed! Could you send me details of your analysis? Since Yahoo's been deliberately trying to kill clones, I'd assumed they'd used some kinda statically linked crypto functions... something fairly trivial to do.

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Getting the yahoo protocol - updates and request for help
by Philip S Tellis 13 Apr '02

13 Apr '02

Ok, for those who've been following the thread, here's an update from my side. NOTE: Throughout this explanation, ctx, ctx1, ctx2, ctx3 ... are md5 contexts, final and final2 are md5 data arrays (unsigned char[16]) the same variable name refers to the same variable always ie, scope of variables is this mail. 1. Yahoo uses the exact same algorithm as pam does to generate MD5 passwords. You can get the source for this from the pam package. Look in modules/pam_unix/md5_crypt.c:MD5Name(crypt_md5)() There is only one minor change that does not affect the outcome of the code, and that is the calls to MD5_Update with ctx1 happen before the calls to MD5_Update with ctx (if you see the code, it'll make more sense, or I can explain then). 2. There are four more calls to the MD5 library. The first does this: MD5_Init(&ctx2); MD5_Update(&ctx2, passwd, strlen(passwd)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx2); MD5_Init(&ctx3); MD5_Update(&ctx3, str, strlen(str)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx3); str is obtained by appending/prepending something to the username. That something is 49 bytes in length. The last two calls are: MD5_Init(&ctx4); MD5_Update(&ctx4, str2, strlen(str2)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx4); MD5_Init(&ctx5); MD5_Update(&ctx5, str3, strlen(str3)); MD5_Final(final2, &ctx5); str3 is also derived from the username, again with a 49 byte string appended/prepended to it. str2 seems to be 34 characters in length always. This data was obtained through statistical analysis of function calls. We still haven't determined what the actual contents of str, str2, str3 or the salt are. Once we have this, I believe we will have cracked it completely. If anyone wants to figure it out, you have to somehow get the data that's being passed to MD5_Update. The first call is the password, the second call is with str. You need to figure out how str is derived. The next three calls are password, magic ($1$ I think), salt (8 chars). The next three are password, salt, password. Try and figure out how salt is derived, and if magic is different from $1$, what is it? Is it constant across calls? Then, look at the last two calls to MD5_Update - calls number 3536 and 3537. No 3536 seems to be constant, but someone will have to confirm this. No 3537 is derived from the username. Figure out how. Philip -- Spock: We suffered 23 casualties in that attack, Captain.

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] Yahoo off again
by Vinay Pai 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

Hi, > What do you think we're trying to do? The official yahoo client uses an > MD5 Challenge/Response pair that is near impossible to crack. I don't know anything about the Yahoo protocol etc. But speaking from a purely cryptographic stand point, this protocol necessarily has to be crackable. In the absence of an external key (i.e. one entered by the user) there is no way to prevent one program from imitating another. However, it can be immune to a passive attack, i.e. simply listening to communications go back and forth. To break it one would need to reverse-engineer the Yahoo program. > If you can, please help. If it is legal to do it, I can try to disassemble and reverse-engineer the Yahoo protocol. > Get a packet sniffer (I think you already have one), tcpdump? > and start working on the authentication part. Look for tcp connects on > port 5050 from your machine with the PUSH flag set to 1. Regards, Vinay <vinay(a)vinaypai.com>

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[Fwd: GNU/Linux Indianization]
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Dr Deepak B Phatak <dbp(a)it.iitb.ac.in> To: all(a)it.iitb.ac.in, faculty(a)cse.iitb.ac.in Subject: GNU/Linux Indianization Date: 06 Apr 2002 02:08:36 +0530 Dear ALL With regard to this important topic, an event is being organized in KReSIT on 9th April. I have given the details in the enclosed write up. Those of you interested in this work are most welcome. Equally important is to ensure that enthusiastic students interested in this area should also participate. But I have no direct way to reach them in this short time. Could I therefore request you to forward this mail to students of your department. Also, I would like to request LUG member(s) from KReSIT to advertise this event amongst the GNU/Linux community. Thanks - dbp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Currently, there is a lack of a good software system which can handle Indian languages. There are a few Multi-lingual office productivity tools. But this is far from the full range of tools that make a computer useful. Till now, work in this field has involved disparate groups, working in isolation, developing closed products. These products have not gained popularity, and lack inter-operability. Since most of the products developed today are closed source, we cannot modify them to support all the functionality required by computers to work comfortably in and with Indian Languages. We believe that the solution lies in Free Software, like GNU/Linux, which can be customized to support Indian languages. Free Software has the advantage of outliving any one team of developers, and of collaborative development, where people build on each other's strengths to arrive at a superior product. This effort will gift us with our own operating system, capable of dealing with Indian languages, and guarantee our freedom of use. >From various discussions with Dr Mudur, I have come to realize that Indian languages are immensely difficult to represent on computers, since they are phonetic, and not linear (like English). Yet, it is widely believed that the problem is not of a technical nature but a project management failure. There is enough talent in India to give us an Indian Language UNIX, one which can finally take computing to the masses. To initiate some concerted action in this direction, the School of IT proposes to organize a short talk (as per schedule below) followed by a discussion. The talk will cover the basic issues in localization, and what is the current status of Indianization in GNU/Linux. We also plan to collect details and status of as many efforts as can be culled out from the audience. This, of course, would be an on going process. Venue: 3rd floor classroom, KReSIT, IIT Bombay. Day and Date: Tuesday, 9th April Time: 16:00 Hrs. ALL INTERESTED, irrespective of department and Institutional affiliations are most welcome to participate. To permit effective handling of logistics concerning tea and snacks, I request to send an email with subject "will attend on 9th" (message text may be just blank) to any one of the following: sameerds(a)it.iitb.ac.in vikram(a)mayin.org dbp(a)it.iitb.ac.in Thanks - Deepak ---------------------------------------------- Dr. Deepak B Phatak Subrao Nilekani Chair & Head Kanwal Rekhi School of Information Technology Indian Institute of Technology Bombay Mumbai 400 076, India Phone: (Off) +91 22 5767900/01/02 (Res) +91 22 5768747, 5724611 Fax: +91 22 5720022, 5723480 email: dbp(a)it.iitb.ac.in ---------------------------------------------- -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, Hostel 2, Room 76 KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. Internal: 5602 Phone: 5767901 extn 5787 External: 5720023, 5721006 or 5722545 extn 5787 5720064 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Compare thinking about doing nothing and actually doing nothing; they are distinct enterprises. -- Philip Wadler -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #444 - 14 msgs
by gurjit dhillon 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

thanks ranjeet, actually i am using vpop3d with sendmail not with qmail, i am trying to solve this with sendmail only gurjit >Hi gurjit. > >Assuming foo.com is your domain for which you want to create a >catchall >account .... > > >Create a file as .qmail-default file in your foo.com's mail >directory. >(i'm using vpopmail and my directory structure is like >/home/vpopmail/domains/foo.com/ ) > > -rw------- 1 vpopmail vchkpw 93 Mar 20 23:23 >.qmail-default > >it will have content like >#cat .qmail-default >| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdeliverymail '' >/home/vpopmail/domains/foo.com/bar > > >bar is the default directory(account) in the same foo.com. >or else u can also use email id in the same file as > >&bar(a)foo.com > > >Regards, >Ranjeet > >PS: Also you need to make sure before posting query to give your >config >details. > > > > > > > >gurjit dhillon writes: > > > > > dear sir, > > > > can any one tell me how to configure catchall account in >vpop3d pop > > serever. > > > > else every thing is working fine, but my catchall a/c is not >working, it > > says unkonown users and bounce back. > > > > thanks in advance > > > > waiting for reply > > > > gurjit >

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Yahoo off again
by Philip S Tellis 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

It seems that yahoo has figured out whatever we've been trying to log in and have disabled those methods as well. If anyone knows of any client that can still log in, please tell me. Philip -- The bugs you have to avoid are the ones that give the user not only the inclination to get on a plane, but also the time. -- Kay Bostic

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FORTRAN 90 on Linux
by Desai Ashish 12 Apr '02

12 Apr '02

Dear Luggers, I m a Student and wanna 2 use Fortran 90 compiler on Linux. At the time of installation i've seen that its also including Fortran 90's compiler. But my problem is that I don't know the steps by which I can be able to write Fortran codes and get it compiled on Linux machine. So, can ne body help me out.....?????? Thanx in advance. Regards, [Ashish Desai] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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help require in vpop3d
by gurjit dhillon 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

dear sir, can any one tell me how to configure catchall account in vpop3d pop serever. else every thing is working fine, but my catchall a/c is not working, it says unkonown users and bounce back. thanks in advance waiting for reply gurjit

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [LIH] Yahoo off again
by Amish Mehta 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Ok. I will try. I have done some work in past on MD5 authentication algorithm used by Outlook Express for Hotmail. Where do I find your archives?, I mean can you give me start page for Linux India Help as I am not a member of that list. Thanks. Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: >What do you think we're trying to do? The official yahoo client uses an >MD5 Challenge/Response pair that is near impossible to crack. If you >can, please help. Get a packet sniffer (I think you already have one), >and start working on the authentication part. Look for tcp connects on >port 5050 from your machine with the PUSH flag set to 1.

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Re: [LIH] Yahoo off again
by Amish Mehta 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Cant libyahoo, gtkyahoo imitate the yahoo's official client? Then there would be no way yahoo can switch things around because there own client would not work then. Anyway I dont have any idea about how libyahoo and gtkyahoo works but thats what I think should be. Btw, isnt yahoo's official client good enough? I think it is almost same as windows yahoo client except no 'chat' feature is available. Amish. P.S. what is LIH in subject line? mallet(a)efn.org (Suresh Ramasubramanian) wrote: >It is quite likely that, if instructed by yahoo to do so, they will find >it pretty trivial to "figure out" what you are doing and switch things >around. I think they figure "do this often enough and wait for the open >source IM clients to get tired of it" :)

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Commercial - Vacancies for post of Customer Support Executive
by Prashant M 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Dear Linux Users, We( Logix Consultancy Group P ltd.)are a software solution provider based in Mumbai.We offer our customers Professional Services on linux like o Mail Server, Proxy Server & Firewall deployment on Linux Technologies We also have our own dedicated server at reliance data center through which we offer o SMTP mail Services o Application server (mail, database or custom apps hosting) o Web server o FTP Services o Chat & Messaging services We are looking for Linux Professional well-versed with sendmail or qmail or postfix and squid proxy for the post of Customer support executive. If interested kindly meet in person immediately. Yours Faithfully, For Logix Consultancy Group P Ltd. Prashant Mudbidri LOGIX CONSULTANCY GROUP P LTD. 01,Ashoka Complex, Ranade Road Dadar (W), Mumbai - 400 028 Tel: 4330106 / 4366591 / 4211860 / 4376857 Email : prashant(a)lcgindia.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] dsl or cable
by Amish Mehta 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

I think 16K = 16 kilobytes(what browsers show) and 128K = 128 kilobits(your allocated speed). So dont worry, you are getting a perfect speed as 16*8=128. :-) Amish. Prakash Shetty wrote: >Well i get an average of 16K on this line ... mine is a so called 128K

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] More mounting problems
by Tahir Hashmi 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Specify the filesystem as vfat in /etc/fstab. AFAIK, Linuxconf is broken. On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:42:26 Bhargav Bhatt wrote: >Hi all, >I tried making my linux kernel mount my FAT32 windows partition at >startup by making an entry into /etc/fstab using linuxconf > [Snip] --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [offtopic] Books for Sale !
by akshaysalkar 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

i guess phillip tellis doesnt understand english. or he cant read whats written. it clearly states ' 20-22% off normal price ' ie. the original book price. -- linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: Sometime Today, akshaysalkar assembled some asciibets to say: > Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate > (ie.20%-22%off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some Just for the record, all computer books sold in India MUST be sold at 20% off the marked price. Of course, if you don't ask your book wala for it, he might just happen to overlook it too. Are you selling it at 20% off after the initial 20% off? -- Air is water with holes in it. _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] dsl or cable
by Tahir Hashmi 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:48:29 Prakash Shetty wrote: >Well i get an average of 16K on this line ... mine is a so called 128K > 16kBps or 16kbps? If it's the former, you're getting what you are supposed to --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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dsl or cable
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

I am getting a choice of braodband access in the sense that I am being offered DSL (Dishnet) and Cable access (Hathway). both are costing *almost* the same as far as monthly/yearly dues, though if I opt for a personal cable modem, I will have to pay a little more (~8000 bucks) for the modem. I want to know if someone has used these services. Which one would be preferable. What should I look out for ? What are the queries I need to get answered from both these chaps ? I already asked if they are blocking port 80 as I will get a static IP and would like to host my site myself. The guy I spoke to did not know about the port 80 stuff so he will get back to me. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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mail bounce in sendmail...
by Nilesh Kahar 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

hello llist, i m using sendmail as my e-mail server ...linux kernel is 2.2..my server bounces mails which has got . (dot) in e-mail address like nilesh.kahar(a)yahoo.com . other mailing is working fine. can anybody resolve my problem? Nilesh. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

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Everybuddy RPMs
by Philip S Tellis 10 Apr '02

10 Apr '02

Some people had asked me where they could get the latest rpms/tarballs for everybuddy. These are the links to the same. The guy who made them did this last batch over ssh from a win98 machine and hasn't tested them, so, please test them and let us know :) http://www2.goddamn.co.uk/me/tech/linux/RPM/RPMS/i686/everybuddy-0.3.0pre-t… http://www2.goddamn.co.uk/me/tech/linux/RPM/SRPMS/everybuddy-0.3.0pre-tai20… http://www2.goddamn.co.uk/me/tech/linux/RPM/SOURCES/everybuddy-0.3.0pre-tai… Philip

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pine or mutt?
by Nikhil Joshi 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hi! I've found that there is a cult following as far as mail agents and editors are concerned. A guy who uses vi rearely uses emacs and vice versa also a guy who uses mutt rarely uses pine or any other mail agent. I would like to discuss about mail agent here (I use vi and I love it ;) I use pine and it suffices most of my needs. Has anyone used both pine and mutt extensively? What in your opinon is more powerful and user friendly? when I enter mutt the inital UI is not inviting and I'm forced to press the q key :) I've read that mutt relies on .rc file editing. I'm planning to learn mutt but I just don't want to be disappointed if I figure out that there ain't much difference between pine and mutt. -- "If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently." -Calvin's dad

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ACPI tables error
by am_rahul 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hello Anurag, I saw your mail regarding 'ACPI tables not in Reclaim Memory'.Even I am get'n the same error & the screen turns blank. Were you able to find a soln. for the problem ? If yes then will it be possible for you to forward me the soln. Thanks in Advance, Rahul Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] konqueror and java applets
by Amish Mehta 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Yes yahoo pool(yahoo games) works. Amish. Manish Jethani wrote: >You have to enable Java in Konqueror (it's disabled by default). > Have you done that?

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Woody on db.ilug-bom.org.in
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Is the Woody Distro kept at db.ilug-bom.org.in good enough??? I mean, can I download it without bothering to update it regularly??? And will the updates be available on ILUG site??? Or should I prefer Potato-R3??? I don't have fast enough connection to update it regularly... Kunal ---------------------- Real Users find the one combination of bizarre input values that shuts down the system for days.

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konqueror and java applets
by Amish Mehta 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Hi, I am trying to run Yahoo chat(through http://chat.yahoo.com) on konqueror but it doesnt show anything(except frames at bottom, menu frame and advt. frame) and X shows following error: Font specified in font.properties not found [--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] I did xlsfonts and found -adobe-symbol... font to be present. So I replaced --symbol with -adobe-symbol in /usr/java/jdk1.3.1_02/jre/lib/fonts.properties file and the error changes to Font specified in font.properties not found [-adobe-symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] So I wonder where does it search for fonts. I have no idea about if what I did was correct so i un-did it. Is it konqueror problem, java problem or yahoo problem(only IE/Netscape allowed?)? Surprisingly, Yahoo Pool works very well in konqueror. Also yahoo chat works on Netscape without any problem. So how do I enable yahoo chat in konqueror. Do i have to install or tweak something in konqueror(or java)? I have konqueror 2.1.1(KDE 2.1.2) with java from jdk 1.3.1_02. Netscape version in communicator 4.77 with its own internal JRE. Amish.

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Connecting to roltawith wvdial
by Anirudh Shivaswamy 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

I am unable to connect to rolta with wvdial . wvdial is able to connect to the rolta server , but says "Returning not OK!" after trying to verify username and password . I have kernel 2.2.16BOOT . I have no way to use any other kernel , since I use loadlin to boot from Win98 SE . what should i do to connect to internet?

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gaim and Yahoo!
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Hi, Here's an update on the current game of hide-and-seek with Yahoo! You can get gaim to work again by setting the pager host for your Yahoo! account as "cs40.msg.sc5.yahoo.com" Sameer. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfigurable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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Yahoo
by Philip S Tellis 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

I think everybuddy is working with yahoo again - at least it works for me. Get the CVS and test please. Send bugs to me. Philip -- "Neo. I hope the Oracle gave you some good news." -- Apoc, "The Matrix"

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[offtopic] Books for Sale !
by akshaysalkar 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie.20%-22%off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Programming Perl 3/e - Larry Wall - Rs. 450 - O'Rielly 2) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Rs. 100 - Techmedia 3) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Rs. 200 - BPB 4) Building Linux Clusters - David Spector - Rs.220 - O'Rielly 5) Using Linux Special Edition - Rs.200 - Prentice Hall 6) Design of the Unix OS - Maurice Bach - Rs. 150 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Debian CDs Wanted
by Vishal 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

Greetings. I need the Debian CDs. Am too bored to download the iso images. Can anyone kindly lend me their CDs (non-US release) ? I will just copy them and return them in a day. Else anybody selling these CDs for a reasonable cost? I also need a suggestion about whether to use Potato or Woody. I am at Lokhandwala, Andheri (W), Bombay. Please email me off-list so as not to annoy other members. Vishal.

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GNU/Linux Internationalisation
by vinayak hegde 07 Apr '02

07 Apr '02

hi linux users, I thought ppl might find the following links useful in localisation of linux to the indian environment - --> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/whitepapers/gtki18n/gtki18n.ps (PostScript Version) --> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/whitepapers/gtki18n/index.html (HTML Version) -- vinayak hegde

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how to crack linux root password
by Manish Jethani 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Use this command to crack linux root password: echo '82 43/25 43+65P80P82P73P76P32P70P79P79P76P10P' | dc Now! Get your sysad fired! Manish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Renaming user-id
by Amish Mehta 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Nikhil Joshi wrote: >I looked at /etc/passwd file more carefully and found this > >shutdown:x:6:0:shutdown:/sbin:/sbin/shutdown >halt:x:7:0:halt:/sbin:/sbin/halt > >are these users ? Anybody in /etc/passwd is logically a user, but in general ftp, mail, daemon, bin etc are system users, used by daemons(background processes, run ps aux) I dont have any idea about purpose of halt and shutdown users. Try man halt or man shutdown. >Can I halt without logging in ? You cant halt/reboot unless you login as root(superuser). You can however reboot by pressing ctrl-alt-del on local terminals OR switching the computer off ;-). Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Renaming user-id
by Amish Mehta 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

You should also change(rename) the user login name(the first field) in /etc/shadow. Amish. Nikhil Joshi wrote: > >Is there any way of renaming an user logon >I tried to rename the user in /etc/passwd but it didn't work

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Offline News browsing using Pine
by Nikhil Joshi 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Hi! Just configured the news-server using pine But it doesn't dnld the messages. I have to read them online :( Mozilla News also has same prob Is there any newseader which dnlds selected messages for offline reading ? Can I configure pine to do it ? -- "Mom knows EVERYTHING" -Calvin

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Renaming user-id
by Nikhil Joshi 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Is there any way of renaming an user logon I tried to rename the user in /etc/passwd but it didn't work Please help. -- "My ethicator machine must've had a built-in moral compromise spectral release phantasmatron! I'm a genius!" --- Calvin

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Query re regex
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Hi Philip, I downloaded your lecture on regex from the ACM website. I have a query; I am a bit confused with the following lines from your examples. [A-Z^] - match anything from A-Z or ^ [-A-Z] - match anything from A-Z or- [+-*/] - match anything from + to * and / [-+*/] - match - + * / Does the first line mean match anything from A to Z or A to ^ ? or does it mean match anything from A to Z or match ^ ? similarly if you could also explain the other three lines please. I am writing to the list so tha teveryone can benefit from the answer. Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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Internet Connection Settings.
by Michael Rodrigues 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hi, I recently took a new internet connection from my local cable operator.He has configured Win98 and set up the gateway as a proxy server too. I tried setting up my Slack 8 box with the same settings as in Win98 (ip add,netmask etc), but I keep gettting the same error: SIOADDRT:Network unreachable. How does one configure linux to use a proxy server at boot time? Am I missing something really obvious out here? Could someone please point me in the right dircetion? Regards, Michael. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Help reg Proxy Settings
by Michael Rodrigues 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Hi, I recently took a new internet connection from my local cable operator.He has configured Win98 and set up the gateway as a proxy server too. I tried setting up my Slack 8 box with the same settings as in Win98 (ip add,netmask etc), but I keep gettting the same error: SIOADDRT:Network unreachable. Am I missing something really obvious out here? Could someone please point me in the right dircetion? Regards, Michael. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Set Date into CMOS?
by Steven Rebello 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

how do i set the CMOS date to current system date without reboot in linux? steven Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Kunal Gangakhedkar
by Philip S Tellis 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

Please note, your softhome server is not working. your mails are bouncing.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem with the list
by Nikhil Karkera 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

>I've already registered with my new softHome account to this >list. >But somehow, I'm not receiving any mails on my Softhome >Account. >Pls. see what is wrong & let me know..... Where do you want me to see?

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Problem with the list
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Well, I've already registered with my new softHome account to this list. But somehow, I'm not receiving any mails on my Softhome Account. Pls. see what is wrong & let me know..... I'm available at kgangakhedkar(a)softhome.net Kunal ---------------------- "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." (Matt Welsh)

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KDE 3.0 released
by Ravindra Jaju 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Lots of improvements. You can find KDE 3.0 RH rpms at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/Applications/KDE/3.0/RedHat/ Please let me know if non-RH people need the sources, and I can upload them too. You can find a screenshot of my desktop at ( for those who care about the cool factor ;-) http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/screenshot.jpg -- jaju

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Book available ?
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

I was suggested to read Mastering Regular Expressions by Jeffery Friedl. I am told it is _the_ book to read for regex. When I enquired w/ my bookwalla, he told me that he was told it would have o be oredered from abroad and would cost ~ Rs. 1300/-. And no, I don't think he is trying to rip me off. It's also not available at the roadside booksellers at Fountain. Does anyone have this book with him ? I would like to first take a look at it before I commit to pay for it. regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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Caveats with latest Yahoo Messenger
by Philip S Tellis 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

If any of you plan on using the latest yahoo messenger for linux, be warned that it adds itself to your .xinitrc file - even if you tell it not to run on startup. After this, X will not start again. You will have to delete the entry from your .xinitrc file first. -- Mulder: Modell psyched the guy out. He put the whammy on him. Scully: Please explain to me the scientific nature of the 'whammy'. "The X-Files: Pusher"

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X-Authentication-Warning
by Nikhil Joshi 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

when I send mails I have this line in the header X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: nikhil owned process doing -bs what does it mean? -- My life needs a rewind/erase button. -- Calvin

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Caveats with latest Yahoo Messenger
by Amish Mehta 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

Hi. Where did you find new YM for Linux? I couldnt find it at http://messenger.yahoo.com. I assume you meant official YM. Thanks. Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: > >If any of you plan on using the latest yahoo messenger for linux,

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Re: Birthday attack against MD5
by Vinay Pai 04 Apr '02

04 Apr '02

> What about a birthday attack? a birthday attack seems to work against MD5 Doesn't help. A birthday attack means you can find two messages with the same hash (i.e. a collision). It doesn't enable you to find a second message with a particular hash value. To sum it up 1. To finda particular hash: Given H(m1) find m2 such that H(m2)=H(m1) If H is a cryptographic hashing function with n-bits this requires 2^n operations 2. To find a collision (birthday attack) Find m1 and m2 such that H(m1) = H(m2) This takes 2^(n/2) operations Thus for a birthday attack to be successful, you need control over BOTH the hashes. Thus it can be used to attack a digital signature scheme by producing a good message and a malicious message with the same hash (and thus same signature). It can't be used to recover passwords. Anyhow, even a birthday attack takes 213 days for our fantastic trillion-MD5-ops-per-second machine... definately doable by the NSA, CIA, KGB or something... but still not of much concern to most. A birthday attack is fairly easy to defeat in a digital signature scheme, plus if you're really paranoid you can use the 160-bit SHA algorithm instead.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] How to use Usenet ?
by Tahir Hashmi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:55:29 Nikhil Joshi wrote: > >So how do I use Usenet? > http://groups.google.com VSNL News Server sucks big time! --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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[OT] How to use Usenet ?
by Nikhil Joshi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

I know this question does not belong here. Heck but I don't know anyone who uses Usenet.So plz bear with me. So how do I use Usenet? I've rough idea that you have to use ur ISP's server or something. I use Pine and my ISP is VSNL and MTNL Plz guide. P.S. If u think this is way off topic plz mail me at: nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com -- We should take pride in our mediocrity -- Calvin

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Brute force against MD5
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

What about a birthday attack? a birthday attack seems to work against MD5 Nikhil >>>Random strings are harder to get, but still possible with a brute >>>force >>>approach (a cracker that tries every combination of n letters, digits >>>and special characters that exist). This however takes very long and >>>is >>>not feasible for most. >> >>"not feasible for most" is a gross understatement. >> >>The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are >>340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means >>that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would take >>you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! >> >>A brute force attack against MD5 won't work. > > However a dictionary attack is much more likely to work against >this algorithm. That is not due to any weakness of the algo but due to >human tendency of picking works like "god" , "password" etc as passwords. >-- vinayak hegde > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] [HELP!]Do any body know how to convert TTF fonts from Wind
by Tahir Hashmi 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:42:38 Vinay Pai wrote: > >There also is a font de-uglification HOWTO that might help. >http://www.linuxdoc.org > Yeah, but it's sick and somewhat out-dated. I had a tough time comprehending it until someone on a newsgroup pointed out the other one. The curious may try it out :-) --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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TAB-TAB > log ?
by Nikhil Joshi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Been racking my brain on this one for long time. I use bash and I would like to have a file containing all the commands I can execute. Now when i press TAB-TAB at prompt it shows Display all 1710 possibilities? (y or n) now if i press y the whole list scrolls by and i can view only the last screen :( Is it possible to redirect the output to a file? -- "Who can fathom the feminine mind?" -Calvin "I like `em anyway" -Hobbes

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] [HELP!]Do any body know how to convert TTF fonts from Windows to
by Vinay Pai 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

> sachin wrote: >>hi there >>i am not very confident about the conversion of the fonts >>from windows to the LINUX > > As Philip said, there's no need to convert the fonts. A step-by-step procedure for using Windows TT fonts is given here: > > http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf There also is a font de-uglification HOWTO that might help. http://www.linuxdoc.org

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Does ext3 get fragmented ?
by Nikhil Joshi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hi! Just had power failure. hallelujah ! Now I can test ext3 :) During startup it asked whether it should perform file-system integrity test . I pressed y and after checking it showed something like this (0.5 % non-contiguous) Does this mean my file-system is fragmented? How do I defragment it? -- Miss Wormwood: What state do you live in? Calvin: Denial. Miss Wormwood: I don't suppose I can argue with that...

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HOW the Network thru Dialup is Posibble
by sachin 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

hi there i want to set up the network thru the dialup line and how can it be automated sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= "Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers." -- Chip Salzenberg ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] NTFS driver
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

I meant the precompiled driver binary.... And not the sources... I have the sources... Kunal ---------------------- Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) ----- Original Message ----- From: "ambarish pathak" <ambarish(a)codito.com> To: <kgangakhedkar(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] NTFS driver > [offlist e-mail] > > From: "Kunal Gangakhedkar" <kgangakhedkar(a)yahoo.com> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:33 PM > > > could you just mail it to me... > > I don't have enough bandwidth to upload 25M or more of the > tarball. You will have to download it yourself from > http://www.kernel.org/ or one of its mirrors. Check out if > ILUG-BOM website hosts the mirror for the same. >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [HELP!]Do any body know how to convert TTF fonts from Windows to
by Tahir Hashmi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:12:25 sachin wrote: >hi there >i am not very confident about the conversion of the fonts >from windows to the LINUX As Philip said, there's no need to convert the fonts. A step-by-step procedure for using Windows TT fonts is given here: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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How is Linux so secure ??
by Nikhil Joshi 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Plz tell me where I'm wrong: Linux is open source --> The Code which encrypts the login password is freely available --> A Baddie looks at the code and finds out the algorithm --> cat /etc/passwd | grep root --> Voila! the baddie has root password. Of course this does not happen How does Linux manage to be secure inspite of being open source? -- Sometimes it seems things go by too quickly. We are so busy watching out for what's just ahead of us that we don't take the time to enjoy where we are. -- Calvin

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NTFS driver
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Does anyone have compiled 2.4 series kernel to produce NTFS driver??? Could you mail it to me or otherwise tell me where I can get it. I tried google, but no use. Didn't find any precompiled driver. I need it badly. I need to transfer some project files from NTFS to Linux. I tried compiling the kernel, but it is giving some stupid problems. I'm using RH 7.1. I think, this topic of kernel not getting compiled properly was discussed earlier as well. Thanks in advance, Kunal Gangakhedkar

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Re[3]: Brute force against MD5
by Vinay Pai 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

> Yesterday @ 9:03pm Vinay Pai wrote: > > > The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are > > 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This > means > > Just curious. > How did you calculate this? > > according to xcalc > 2^128 = 3.402823e+38 Using bc... it uses arbitrary precision arithmetic.

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Inserting ide-scsi module to use with /dev/hdc
by Abhir Joshi 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Hi For using a CD writer the parameter "hdc=ide-scsi" has to be passed to the kernel while booting (assuming the CD writer is /dev/hdc). This works fine. But having booted without that parameter passed to kernel, how do I insert the module 'ide-scsi.o' and tell the kernel to use it for /dev/hdc without rebooting again? Well, "insmod" inserts the module, but *how do I tell the kernel to use it for "/dev/hdc" ?* Abhir -- The only comment I can make is - There is nothing on which I can comment Then why am I writing this mail? Without writing a mail I can't explain it!

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Indianising Linux: NOT transliteration
by jitendra 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

(Mr Kalyankar : this is for your info.) No I am not talking about transliteration. I am talking about localisation of internationaised packages/applications on Linux platform This involves extracting strings from C programs , marking the strings in the progranms for such translation and replacement and carryout translation of strings and manage catalogs and files for versions, setting up parameters for 'lacale' so that programs can on the fly chose the language (script, font, editing, input methods etc). there are some tools like glade to produce appllications(c-codes etc) gettext for extracting strings for translations, kbabel for managing the catalogs and translations etc and font generators for developing fonts and emacs for smartly editing files (called .po, .pot, .pox) and other tools . I need expertise in any of the above tools and cooperation in carrying out wide training for people with or without much technical skills. I also need editors (how to edit the translations ) so that work can be done on windows platform as also on gnu/linux and yet be future-proof as standards are changing. Jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Re: the dictionary and bamboozled
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:40:05 Philip S Tellis wrote: > >well, unfortunately, it's been wrongly used for so long, that it has now >become mainstream, and is in the dictionary as well. > How about a world-wide awareness tour for this? Better still, let's make a movie out of it. Then the dictionaries might even say something like "... a sandal-wearing geek who eats software bugs for breakfast... ". And if we're able to show how a hacker saves the US of A from a dark evil cracker (a Cyborg will be cool), we might be able to do what Lagaan couldn't! Who's funding? Aamir, are you game? --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] the dictionary and bamboozled
by Amish Mehta 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Well Ranjeet, I had said if you dont like MSN dont read ahead. Anyway its your anti-MSN(or MS) thinking talking here. If you check 1) Merriam-Webster: http://m-w.com OR 2) http://www.dictionary.com You will find that one of the meanings of 'hacker' there will hurt you again. And I hope you will principally not use those websites too. :-). Amish. P.S. I am a bit against MS too but not blindly against MS. Also point to think over is MS will not earn any money by adding that meaning to hacker. ranjeet(a)nttindia.com wrote: >and i got four meanings .. out of which one hurted me .... (first one) > >and i got reason why not to use that ;)

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[OT] Re: the dictionary and bamboozled
by Amish Mehta 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

ranjeet(a)nttindia.com wrote: >u took it to heart buddy .... I think I had smiled! :-) Anyway why are you removing [OT] tag from subject?! >Ranjeet >Amish Mehta writes: >> you again. And I hope you will principally not use those websites >> too. :-). ^^^^^ Amish. P.S. lets not bug others. over and out! :-)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] the dictionary and bamboozled
by Amish Mehta 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Well Ranjeet, I had said if you dont like MSN dont read ahead. Anyway its your anti-MSN(or MS) thinking talking here. If you check 1) Merriam-Webster: http://m-w.com OR 2) http://www.dictionary.com You will find that one of the meanings of 'hacker' there will hurt you again. And I hope you will principally not use those websites too. :-). Amish. P.S. I am a bit against MS too but not blindly against MS. Also point to think over is MS will not earn any money by adding that meaning to hacker. ranjeet(a)nttindia.com wrote: >and i got four meanings .. out of which one hurted me .... (first one) > >and i got reason why not to use that ;)

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: the dictionary and bamboozled
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

>>http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=bamboozled >> >>bam*boo*zle >> To take in by elaborate methods of deceit; hoodwink. >> See Synonyms at deceive. I am late in this thread, and I don't exactly know what is being discussed. Adding my thoughts, based on the above discussion, check http://www.dict.org/ for any and every kind of word that you ever want. Here is what it says about bamboozle: 2 definitions found

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] the dictionary and bamboozled
by Amish Mehta 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Dont continue reading if you dont like MSN. :-). http://dictionary.msn.com is good too. Amish. Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: >Inspired by the recent discussion about dictionaries, we have > >http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=bamboozled > >bam�boo�zle > To take in by elaborate methods of deceit; hoodwink. > See Synonyms at deceive.

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Wanda the GNOME Fish
by Philip S Tellis 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Has anyone seen Wanda the GNOME fish today? -- Some programming languages manage to absorb change, but withstand progress. -- Epigrams in Programming, ACM SIGPLAN Sept. 1982

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Re[2]: [OT] Re: Brute force against MD5
by Vinay Pai 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

>> The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are >> 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means >> that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would >> take you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! >> >> A brute force attack against MD5 won't work. > > try a distributed attack. use the processing power of every computer on > the planet. Do the calculations.... even a trillion machines (which would about 167 such machines for every person on the earth), each capable of a trillion tests a second, it would still take 10,790,283 years > > actually, thinking of it this way, wouldn't it just make sense to create > a reverse lookup table of every possible password and its encrypted > value. As for storing the lookup table... creating the lookup table will take as much time as mentioned above... And where ru going to store it? Even if you could store one lookup table entry on one single electron, the storage device (for 10^38 entries) would weigh 10,000 tons. Regards, Vinay <vinay(a)vinaypai.com>

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ide drive errors on bootup
by Kunal Jhunjhunwala 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Hey, Whenever I boot up my linux machine, it gets stuck on the following : hda : irq timeout : status 0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete } I am running red hat 7.2.. and its a fresh install.. any suggestions on how to fix this?? Regards, Kunal Jhunjhunwala "Minds think with ideas, not information. No amount of data, bandwidth, or processing power can substitute for inspired thought." - Clifford Stoll

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Re: Brute force against MD5
by Vinay Pai 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

> Random strings are harder to get, but still possible with a brute > force > approach (a cracker that tries every combination of n letters, digits > and special characters that exist). This however takes very long and > is > not feasible for most. "not feasible for most" is a gross understatement. The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would take you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! A brute force attack against MD5 won't work.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] dictionary
by Tahir Hashmi 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Try GDict client for MIT Dictionary Server or have a look at the Galeon's Smart Bookmarks - you can specify your own server in the latter. Both require Internet access to work, though. --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_02020…

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Brute force against MD5
by vinayak hegde 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

At 09:03 PM 3/31/02 +0530, you wrote: >>Random strings are harder to get, but still possible with a brute >>force >>approach (a cracker that tries every combination of n letters, digits >>and special characters that exist). This however takes very long and >>is >>not feasible for most. > >"not feasible for most" is a gross understatement. > >The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are >340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means >that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would take >you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! > >A brute force attack against MD5 won't work. However a dictionary attack is much more likely to work against this algorithm. That is not due to any weakness of the algo but due to human tendency of picking works like "god" , "password" etc as passwords. -- vinayak hegde

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[Admin] User temporarily disabled from lug list
by Philip S Tellis 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Please note, the user shahazad(a)linuxplanet.nu has been bouncing mails regularly, and delivery to this account has been temporarily disabled. If you are this person, please take corrective action. If you know this person, please inform him of this and ask him to take corrective action. You can reactivate your account through the regular mailman account administration screen or through the mail interface. -- Nothing is but what is not.

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indianising Linux : web site
by jitendra 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

We are a group of students and teachers in engg college and want to work towrda indianising gnu/Linux. We aim at doing whatevr it takes to do it. We have no great expertise but are seeking some. We would like to set up a site for the availble resources and strt identifying small tasks and get them to be done. We would like to keep track of status and progress as is done by gnu project on translations for across the world. I do not find mention of indian languages on the gnu site which is a sad (if not shameful) fact. This is the time for all those who want to join to come up with help. All kind of help. We would like to meet some time. We have a coordinator , the undersigned . Can ilug host (give web-space) such a site or has one already? We aim at NOT restricting to geeks and only technical work but also get the translations of important packages and involve general public . We need to answer a few technical questions though. 1> so long as many people have only windows (MS!) they may have to use their software for editing files in indian languages. What standard(UNICODE, ISCII, ISO?) should be followed and using which free software to create strings , .po files, .pot files. yudit, sbabel or what? Are these available in windows with devnagari.Even if this is not perfect can we ensure that the same may be convertible and improved. Or is it necessary for us to wait for miracle of perfect solution and availability of linux all around. 2> what programs would be needed to partially automate the translations. Many are floating around. Can some geek take up the challenge and give a comparative picture for us to use. Also give a small tutorial.? 3> We want to start with marathi. The lessons and tools will be useful for all other languages. Who are the others in this field. Jitendra Jitendra

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How is Linux so secure ??
by Nikhil Karkera 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >Passwords can be guessed however. And knowing the encryption >algorithm, >all you have to do is encrypt every password you can think of, >and >compare the two encrypted strings. If they match, you've got >your >password. Or you could just type it out at the login prompt :) Regards, Nikhil.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Brute force against MD5
by Amish Mehta 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Vinay Pai wrote: >The MD5 hash is 128 bits long. This means that there are >340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 values. This means >that even if you could try a TRILLION combinations a second it would >take you 10,790,283,070,806,014,188 years to break! > >A brute force attack against MD5 won't work. Should I add if you do not consider luck factor and few assumptions on length of password, starting and ending characters of password. Which is not tough to find out in case you are in close vicinity of an administrator. Amish.

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which's 'you got mail' program?
by akshaysalkar 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

does any 1 know what programm / code / script shows the line... 'you got mail' once i login into the shell. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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All speech, no dev?
by amol＠bsnlngp.com 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I have been to some ILUG meetings in Mumbai. Its a pity I couldn't all of them, I study at Nagpur. Why don't we do something about the ILUG site. Most of the links point nowhere. A bunch of motivated linuxers can't hammer up a good site? Maybe, we should all work towards that direction. Again, most of the time we talk about configuring this, installing that using this etcetra. But how may of us really take development seriously. We frown at lack of documentation, but how many of us give a hought about actually sitting down there and writing docs. How many of us develop or say even contribute? I don't know, though I joined the list only today, I strongly feel about what I am saying here. And it's high time we all did something about it. With best wishes, Amol Hatwar.

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #415 - 13 msgs
by Gurpreet Singh 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

hi lug members i need help friends... i have loaded linux on my machine, but the problem is that i am not being able to mount the cdrom. when igive the command as $mount /mnt/cdrom it gives me a msg saying /mnt/cdrom is not a valid block device in /dev/cdrom something like this only HELP friends... gnome and kde are also not being able to auto mount the cdrom??? in desperation Gurpreet On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote : >Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >specific >than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. (no subject) (Girish Hanchate) > 2. Dowload from http site (noel seq) > 3. Re: Dowload from http site (Pablo Ares Gastesi) > 4. ACM Seminar-Fri Mar 22,2002-"Introducing Python" by Chirag >Wazir (Philip S Tellis) > 5. Re: Dowload from http site (Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.) > 6. Re: Dowload from http site (Linux Lover) > 7. Re: (no subject) (Linux Lover) > 8. Richard Stallman: Free Software and India (Sameer D. >Sahasrabuddhe) > 9. Free software and price (was Re: Richard Stallman: Free >Software and India) (Amish Mehta) > 10. kernel cd (abhijeetmore(a)rolta.net) > 11. Lan Card Configuration (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amit=20Karnik?=) > 12. Change of Email ID (Kunal Gangakhedkar) > 13. Re: modem driver for linux (Philip S Tellis) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:42:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Girish Hanchate <girishhan(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >At what time the meeting is there & where in IIT >premises. > >Rgds >girish > > > > > > > >If any ILUG-BOM members are interested , they may join >a meeting on >Saturday at IIT where some are meeting. This is in >response to an >appeal >made in ArthVrittant article on Stallman, by Anil >Shaligram on 18 March >issue of Loksatta. > >Some of the ideas that came up while thinking about >Marathi Linux > > There are 3 levels of work in Marathi-isation > 1> Applications like office software: Free softwares >like > a>StarOffice , which are quite a good substitute >for MS-Office and >available in Linux : > b> GIS softwares like GRASS or MYWorld useful for >urgent problms >like water and environment > c> educational softwares Like LOGO, STARLOGO, >Model-It, >Worldwatcher, DrGenius > > We need to translate the labels and messages and >documentations and >tutorials, multi-lingual CDs with multimedia. >2>Creating application in Marathi: Using gtk, glade >emacs etc. >3> Working at the OS level : Creating labels/message >table in marathi. >NCST has already done a large part for Hindi, some in >Marathi too. > >We also need to create mass awereness thru newspaper >article in all the >press. >We should ask our local cybercafe to have marathi >software loaded. >AKRUTI have agrred to support anyone helping. >Similarly other Marathi >and Indian language developers can be asked to make >offers. This would >make the idea of working in Indian language a >day-to-day affair without >too much cost. > >jitendra >For details contact jitendras(a)vsnl.com > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® >http://movies.yahoo.com/ > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 > From: "noel seq" <noelseq(a)hotmail.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:25:52 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Dowload from http site >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > >How do I automate download from an http site using lynx. > >I have set a cron job for downloading a file from a http site. >When I give >lynx http://site, it goes to the site and asks for (D)ownload >/(C)ancel Only >when i press d it downloads the file from the site. However, I >want to >download the file without manual intervention. lynx -dump >htt://site gives >me ascii output on the screen. > >Any suggestions. > >Noel. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 > From: Pablo Ares Gastesi <pablo(a)math.tifr.res.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dowload from http site >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:32:54 +0530 (GMT+0530) >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > > How do I automate download from an http site using lynx. > > > > Any suggestions. > > Use wwwget, very nice. > > >Pablo. >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Pablo Ares Gastesi. School of Mathematics, TIFR, >Mumbai 400 005, INDIA i Phone: 2152971, ext >2666 >pablo(a)math.tifr.res.in http://www.math.tifr.res.in/~pablo/ >Key fingerprint = 1A 7C 0A 22 5A 75 A4 78 62 6F 64 09 C1 A0 F7 >E6 >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:45:53 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> >To: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] ACM Seminar-Fri Mar 22,2002-"Introducing >Python" by Chirag Wazir >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >hello folks, > >We are organizing a seminar: >"Introducing Python" by Chirag Wazir >at NCST juhu (probably in the seminar room due to DEP being held >in the >lecture theatre). >Details of the seminar/speaker are given below. > >All are cordially invited. > >Please note that there won't be a video-conference link-up to >ncst,vashi >for this seminar. > >regards >- Jayprasad J. Hegde > on behalf of the ACM Mumbai Chapter. > >ACM Seminar > >Friday, March 22, 2002 - 6:30 p.m. >Title: Introducing Python >Speaker: Chirag Wazir >Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu > >Abstract: Python is an increasingly popular scripting and >programming >language. This seminar will cover Python basics from the point of >view of a >programmer who knows one or more other languages. > >About the Speaker: Chirag Wazir is a freelance programmer and >consultant. >He spends most of his time reading and is interested in almost >everything, >especially those things computer-related. > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:09:21 +0530 > From: "Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri." <linux(a)pavri.net> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dowload from http site >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, noel seq wrote: > > > > > How do I automate download from an http site using lynx. > > > > I have set a cron job for downloading a file from a http site. >When I give > > lynx http://site, it goes to the site and asks for (D)ownload >/(C)ancel > > Only when i press d it downloads the file from the site. >However, I want to > > download the file without manual intervention. lynx -dump >htt://site gives > > me ascii output on the screen. > > > > Any suggestions. > > > > Noel. > >Why not try wget -cv http://path.to/file it will not ask you for >a >confirmation and besides will even re-connect if the conection >drops after >downloading the file partially. > >man wget is your friend. > >regards, > >Sharukh. >-- >Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri >Mumbai, India. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 > From: "Linux Lover" <liloindia(a)yahoo.co.in> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dowload from http site >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:59:00 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >use wget u automate download >----- Original Message ----- > From: Pablo Ares Gastesi <pablo(a)math.tifr.res.in> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:32 PM >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Dowload from http site > > > > > > > How do I automate download from an http site using lynx. > > > > > > Any suggestions. > > > > Use wwwget, very nice. > > > > > > Pablo. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Pablo Ares Gastesi. School of Mathematics, TIFR, > > Mumbai 400 005, INDIA i Phone: 2152971, ext >2666 > > pablo(a)math.tifr.res.in http://www.math.tifr.res.in/~pablo/ > > Key fingerprint = 1A 7C 0A 22 5A 75 A4 78 62 6F 64 09 C1 A0 >F7 E6 > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 > From: "Linux Lover" <liloindia(a)yahoo.co.in> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:01:22 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C1D0F1.A596BE20 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ># echo "nameserver 202.54.1.30" >> /etc/resolv.conf > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Amit Karnik=20 > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in=20 > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:51 PM > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) > > > Hi > > I am using Cable Connection for internet > > I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and am >also = >able to ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not able to >surf = >the net or connect to internet..... > > How can i achieve that...pls help...... > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------= >----- > Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your >desktop = > > >------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C1D0F1.A596BE20 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2># echo "nameserver 202.54.1.30" >= >>>=20 >/etc/resolv.conf</FONT></DIV> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20 >style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; >MARGIN-RIGHT: = >0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- ></DIV> > <DIV=20 > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: >= >black"><B>From:</B>=20 > <A href=3D"mailto:amka20002000@yahoo.co.in" = >title=3Damka20002000(a)yahoo.co.in>Amit=20 > Karnik</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 > href=3D"mailto:linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in"=20 > >title=3Dlinuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in>linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in</A> >= ></DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March >20, 2002 = >10:51=20 > PM</DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [ILUG-BOM] (no >= >subject)</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV> > <P>Hi</P> > <P>I am using Cable Connection for internet</P> > <P>I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and >am also = >able to=20 > ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not able to surf >the net = >or=20 > connect to internet.....</P> > <P>How can i achieve that...pls help......</P> > <P> </P> > <P> > <HR SIZE=3D1> > <B>Download <IMG alt=3Dcricket height=3D28=20 > src=3D"http://sg.yimg.com/i/aa/icons/28/cricket.gif" >width=3D28> <A=20 > href=3D"http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html" = >target=3D_blank>Yahoo!=20 > Score Tracker</A> for live cricket scores on your desktop=20 ></B></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > >------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C1D0F1.A596BE20-- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:12:21 +0530 > From: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" <sam_buddhe(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Date: 21 Mar 2002 16:17:00 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Richard Stallman: Free Software and India >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi guys! > >So finally here's the "official" notification for RMS' talk in >IITB. >Most of you already know about his visit to Mumbai, and I guess >there >is no real need to introduce RMS to you :-) Please do come for >the >lecture. > >Date: Saturday, 23rd March 2002 >Time: 4pm onwards >Venue: Convocation Hall > >For directions for getting to IITB and to the convocation hall, >please >refer to this resource on the IITB website: > >http://www.iitb.ac.in/campus/howto/howtoget.html > >Here's an article that had recently figured in the Financial >Express. > > >Free software Guru -- Richard Stallman -- on India mission >March 14, 2002 > >While the concept of using free software for back-end >requirements is >catching on, the desktop is yet to be liberated from the hold >of the >largest proprietary operating system (OS) corporations. > >So, as the free software movement guru Richard M Stallman sets >out to >spread the wings of the Free Software Foundation in India, >helping >build applications for the desktop that will reach the common >man a >daunting agenda lies ahead. Besides gearing up to popularise >free >software, both at the back end and especially the desktop, >empowering >developers to make applications ubiquitous, working with >state >governments to promote free software use in e-governance and >using it >as an effective tool to work towards bridging the digital >divide is >the core of Stallman's India agenda. 'Apprenticeship by >tinkering' is >clearly set to be the name of the game. > >Richard Stallman is the man behind GNU/Linux (GNU >developed by >Stallman and a Linux kernel developed by Linus Torwalds) open >source >operating system, which is believed to have more than 17 >million >installations worldwide. Interestingly, Stallman says, 'free' >software >is not about the price (and says companies are free to charge a >sum to >offer the operating system and services to users), but is all >about >the freedom and openness of use. The Free Software Foundation >itself >makes most of its revenues by selling copies of the >software and >training manuals while some funds come in by way of >donations. The >foundation is also looking at a business model where it will >function >as the certifying agency and will certify compliance of free >software >users with the licensing rules. > >"Countries can avoid paying gigantic amounts of money >towards >licensing of proprietary software. Specific to India, free >software >can be used to support computer science education at all levels. >This >also allows for anyone to use and learn," he said. > >Interestingly, the free software movement with GNU/Linux has >already >made inroads in India. To cite examples the Andhra Pradesh >government >is already set to execute projects on the free OS, >while the >well-known Simputer Trust has showcased this OS in its >low-cost >computing appliance - Simputer and some of the new >technology >start-ups like CDC Linux are already developing high-end >clustering >and parallel supercomputing solutions on the GNU/Linux >operating >system. > >Source: The Financial Express >-- >MTech Student, >Reconfigurable Computing Lab, >KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:45:43 +0530 > From: Amish Mehta <amish(a)ownmail.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Free software and price (was Re: Richard >Stallman: Free Software and India) >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >--174542212102.14161.amish(a)ownmail.com >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Can I sell a program written by me which uses GNU-libc? Because >GPL >says if I use any of programs licensed by GPL I must not charge >for >it. Cant I legally charge reasonable price for whatever I have >written? > >Amish. > >Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > > Stallman says, 'free' software is not about the price (and >says > companies are free to charge a sum to offer the operating >system > and services to users) > > >--174542212102.14161.amish(a)ownmail.com >Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=anonymous >Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 > >DQo= >--174542212102.14161.amish(a)ownmail.com >Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=anonymous >Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 > >DQo= >--174542212102.14161.amish(a)ownmail.com >Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=anonymous >Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 > >DQo= >--174542212102.14161.amish(a)ownmail.com-- > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 21:59:22 +0530 > From: abhijeetmore(a)rolta.net >To: linuxers <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] kernel cd >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi, >Can somebody on the list write kernel 2.4 and 2.2 on a cd for >me? >My internet connection isn't very fast, so I've given up hoping >to >be able to download it. >And Yes, I stay at New Bombay,so a closer location would be >preferable. >(If that's not asking for too much!) >ciao >abhijeet > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:52:38 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Amit=20Karnik?= ><amka20002000(a)yahoo.co.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Lan Card Configuration >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >--0-398514670-1016733158=:5609 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > Hi >I already have a entry in /etc/resolve.conf >nameserver 203.18.19.1 >where 203.18.19.1 is the IP of the server of the service >provider........Now he also has give me a username and password >which it authenticates wherein it uses a Cyberroam Client for >entering the username and password on Windows ...... >Now i am not sure where i shuld enter my username and password >......i am also able to ping the server of service >provider..... >Just not able to browse any sites or get connected to net >pls help > > > Linux Lover <liloindia(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: # echo "nameserver >202.54.1.30" >> /etc/resolv.conf----- Original Message ----- > From: Amit Karnik To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent: >Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:51 PMSubject: [ILUG-BOM] (no >subject) > >Hi > >I am using Cable Connection for internet > >I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and am >also able to ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not >able to surf the net or connect to internet..... > >How can i achieve that...pls help...... > > > > >--------------------------------- >Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your >desktop > >--------------------------------- >Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your >desktop >--0-398514670-1016733158=:5609 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > ><P> Hi ><P>I already have a entry in /etc/resolve.conf ><P>nameserver 203.18.19.1 ><P>where 203.18.19.1 is the IP of the server of the service >provider........Now he also has give me a username and password >which it authenticates wherein it uses a Cyberroam Client for >entering the username and password on Windows ...... ><P>Now i am not sure where i shuld enter my username and password >......i am also able to ping the server of service >provider..... ><P>Just not able to browse any sites or get connected to net ><P>pls help ><P> ><P> ><P> <B><I>Linux Lover <liloindia(a)yahoo.co.in></I></B> wrote: ><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; >BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> ><META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> > ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2># echo "nameserver 202.54.1.30" >> >/etc/resolv.conf</FONT></DIV> ><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; >MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: >0px"> ><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- ></DIV> ><DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: >black"><B>From:</B> <A title=amka20002000(a)yahoo.co.in >href="mailto:amka20002000@yahoo.co.in">Amit Karnik</A> </DIV> ><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A >title=linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >href="mailto:linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in">linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in</A> ></DIV> ><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 20, >2002 10:51 PM</DIV> ><DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [ILUG-BOM] (no >subject)</DIV> ><DIV><BR></DIV> ><P>Hi</P> ><P>I am using Cable Connection for internet</P> ><P>I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and am >also able to ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not >able to surf the net or connect to internet.....</P> ><P>How can i achieve that...pls help......</P> ><P> </P> ><P> ><HR SIZE=1> ><B>Download <IMG height=28 alt=cricket >src="http://sg.yimg.com/i/aa/icons/28/cricket.gif" width=28> <A >target=_blank >href="http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html">Yahoo! >Score Tracker</A> for live cricket scores on your desktop ></B></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1> ><b>Download ><img src="http://sg.yimg.com/i/aa/icons/28/cricket.gif" >alt="cricket" height=28 width=28> ><a href="http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html" >target="_blank">Yahoo! Score Tracker</a> for live cricket scores >on your desktop ></b> >--0-398514670-1016733158=:5609-- > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 > From: "Kunal Gangakhedkar" <kgangakhedkar(a)yahoo.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:51:51 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Change of Email ID >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hey guys, > >There is a news that Yahoo!'s POP mail service is becoming >paid. >Not the Web-based mailing system, though >So, I've decided to change to some other Free POP based mailing >server. >Right now, I'm using SoftHome.net. >Hence, I want to change this subscription to ILUG-BOM from >my Y! address to softhome address. > >Any help on how this can be done without me subscribing >again??? > >Kunal >------------------ > >I'm your dream, make you real >I'm your eyes when you must steal >I'm your pain when you can't feel >sad but true > >Metallica - Sad But True > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:48:42 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> >To: prithviraj chauhan <prithvirajchauhan(a)yahoo.com> >Cc: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: modem driver for linux >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Sometime Today, prithviraj chauhan assembled some asciibets to >say: > > > i have a conexent modem hsf 56k > > chip no rs56/sp-pc/11p1 > > which i am not able to configure for linux > >i am not familiar with this modem, but what is the problem that >you are >having? normally, modems work as generic devices. have you >tried >connecting with minicom? > >you can try the following: > >as root, echo AT > /dev/ttyS0 (or whichever is your modem port), >and >see if the lights come out (if you have an external modem). > >start minicom (as root), and configure it to use the correct >port. (try >the help if you don't know how). Then type AT<enter>. You >should get a >response of OK. > >Try dialling from here: ATDT<phoneno><enter> >disconnect by typing +++ or ATH > >-- >"I go on working for the same reason a hen goes on laying >eggs." >- H. L. Mencken > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > >End of Linuxers Digest

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Marathi on Linux (using Devnagari)
by jitendra 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I am keen on using emacs mule utility for indian script say devnagari. I go to mule and select devnagari. What next. What is the layout of keyboard. Is it purely transliteration from english phionetically. Any examples, tutorials? Can some one send a specific adress so I can communicate. I am trying to create a group (including interested housewives and students and engg college teachers) to creat linux messages in Marathi.I would like to use Mule for that. Then I want to proiceed to marathi-ise internationalised versions of software. Would any one like to join. Please read Arth-Vrittant of 18 march which is a supplement to Loksatta. Jitendra

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Help me out
by Santosh Majety 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

I am getting difficulty in running the LAM MPI program. It is getting compiled but it could find the "mpi.h" header file. Is there anything like a path to be set .... and if it is where is should be the path set. I checked in the .cshrc file but i could not find the path. Do I have to set a path out there or somewhere else. I am using everthing and running the lam environment under one root partition. Could you plz tell me whether MPI programming works under one partition or do I have to make another home partition and then specify it as NFS. Plz help me out.

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(no subject)
by Santosh Majety 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

I am getting difficulty in running the LAM MPI program. It is getting compiled but it could find the "mpi.h" header file. Is there anything like a path to be set .... and if it is where is should be the path set. I checked in the .cshrc file but i could not find the path. Do I have to set a path out there or somewhere else. I am using everthing and running the lam environment under one root partition. Could you plz tell me whether MPI programming works under one partition or do I have to make another home partition and then specify it as NFS. Plz help me out.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space
by Navin [v 2.0] 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

> We have a domain of our own - vjti.edu > But we wanted server space, so that we can administer it ourselves. Hmm... My dear if by administer you mean upload and download web-pages i.e. update pages then you can do that on the free-web-space I sentu . > And > constantly update it as mentioned in my earlier mail. > We plan to link this > site to the domain name vjti.edu/mca Ok that you are going to do using Frames. So All you have to do is register at Brinkster and shootoff . Should take just abt 10 Mins.. Navin Dhanuka Knowledge is Power. All I want is immense power. P.S. - I am sending the reply to LUG also, because if I am wrong someone can correct it. > Thanx for the links and sorry for using the wrong tag. > > -- > Goldwyn :o) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] FETCHMAIL
by acharya＠dacafe.com 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

hi but all the mails r beeing deliverd to root if i use star _____________________________________________________________

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Any good documents on network protocol implementation in Linux
by Mayuresh Bakshi 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Hi, Are there any good documents/books available which describe implementing new protocol family in Linux ? Appreciate any related pointers on the same. Thanks, -Mayuresh

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mail backup
by kishor bhagwat 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Does anyone have info on a realtime/almost realtime mail backup system using sendmail 8.9? the main server and backup server are geographically distant. regards, kishor PS:i sent this hours ago..havent received it myself, so re-sending it... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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PPTP client
by Girish Hanchate 28 Mar '02

28 Mar '02

Hi, I am facing problem while installing PPTP client on Redhat linux 6.2. I installed pptp-linux-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm & ppp-mppe-2.4.0-4.i386.rpm. after installing when i start setup it gives me following error Insecure $ENV{ENV} while running with -T switch at /usr/sbin/pptp-command line 505, <STDIN> chunk 1 Rgds Girish __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

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Chat servers
by Hiten Desai 28 Mar '02

28 Mar '02

I would like to know about free and stable chat servers for linux which support if possible webchat Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

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GPL check
by sachin 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

please see the artical at Link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5935 Titled : Do the demands of the GPL cause as much harm as closed-source code? do you agree to the author? -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Interchangeable parts won't. ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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mailcap entry for viewing Doc and Excel files
by Pankaj Jangid 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Hi all, You can use these entries in your ~/.mailcap file for viewing msword and ms-excel document, which comes as mail attachments. Dependency: wv, html2text, xlhtml (these are available in debian archives http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages) Assumption: conf and example files of wv are in /usr/share/wv #FOR MS WORD application/msword; wvWare -x /usr/share/wv/wvHtml.xml '%s' | html2text; copiousoutput; description=Microsoft Word Document; print=wvWare -x /usr/share/wv/wvHtml.xml '%s' | html2text | print text/plain:- #FOR MS EXCEL application/vnd.ms-excel; xlhtml -c %s | html2text; copiousoutput; description=Microsoft Excel Document; print=xlhtml -c %s | html2text | print text/plain:- You can use any other alternative to html2text like lynx. I am using these settings and using mutt for reading mails. Its working very fine. and if you use "set autoview = yes" in ~/.muttrc, mutt will automatically display the files without asking you to open the file. regards -- Pankaj Jangid National Centre for Software Technology GnuPG Public Key: http://yugandhar.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt

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mailcap entry for viewing Doc and Excel files
by Pankaj Jangid 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Hi all, You can use these entries in your ~/.mailcap file for viewing msword and ms-excel document, which comes as mail attachments. Dependency: wv, html2text, xlhtml (these are available in debian archives http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages) Assumption: conf and example files of wv are in /usr/share/wv #FOR MS WORD application/msword; wvWare -x /usr/share/wv/wvHtml.xml '%s' | html2text; copiousoutput; description=Microsoft Word Document; print=wvWare -x /usr/share/wv/wvHtml.xml '%s' | html2text | print text/plain:- #FOR MS EXCEL application/vnd.ms-excel; xlhtml -c %s | html2text; copiousoutput; description=Microsoft Excel Document; print=xlhtml -c %s | html2text | print text/plain:- You can use any other alternative to html2text like lynx. I am using these settings and using mutt for reading mails. Its working very fine. and if you use "set autoview = yes" in ~/.muttrc, mutt will automatically display the files without asking you to open the file. regards -- Pankaj Jangid National Centre for Software Technology GnuPG Public Key: http://yugandhar.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt

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Re: fetching mail directly to PC
by Nikhil Karkera 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 Devdas Bhagat wrote : >Setup the DNS first and then all the rest should work >automagically. High time I asked this. Automagically : Automatically Please differentiate. Regards, Nikhil.

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linux on a P4
by abhijeetmore＠rolta.net 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Hi, I just installed linux on our college P4. Red Hat 7.0. It was the first time I asked it to install 'everything'. On booting I found three images - linux, linux-smp, linux-up. I guess smp is self explained. But when I booted into the image called 'linux', it wouldn't probe the Hard disk IRQ correctly.It said: hda: IRQ probe failed .... Now when I booted into the image called 'linux-up' it did so without any errors. My initial guess at an explanation is that the kernels are processor specific. 'linux' is probably for generic 386s and 'linux-up' worked because it was for higher processors. In other words I suspect that the IRQ allotments in the two cases are different. Could somebody pl. confirm this or suggest an alternative explanation? Oh, and BTW I had asked for kernel 2.4 and 2.2 on a cd a few days ago. I've got them now. Anybody else requiring the same can get in touch with me. ciao abhijeet

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Debug for Linux?
by Nikhil Joshi 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Hi! I'm studying 8086 in Microprocessor II Usually we write simple programs using MS-Dos's debug "command" Is there a parallel Linux utility ? Also are there any assemblers like MASM TASM ? I would also like to clear some doubts: 1. In DOS we use interrupts like int 20,int 21 etc.. which perform certain tasks. Are these interrupts apllicable to Linux also? 2.In Assembly since we deal directly with CPU isn't it a security risk? (I have come across some debug routines which clear CMOS , destroy the hard disk partitions... !) 3.Why there r so many books written for Assembly Programming which are specific to Dos based Assemblers and debug? Is Unix implementation for Assembly Programming difficult ? Please enlighten. -- "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." -Calvin

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can someone help correct Linux-india.org blooper
by lilo＠zeenext.com 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Hi ppl, does anyone from this mailing list also subscribe to linux-india.org mailing list or knows anyone who maintains the site. Then you can help correct the following problem. If u goto the site www.linux-india.org and click on Bombay/Mumbai @ the bottom of the page , it takes you to the site http://bombay.linux-india.org/ which has the following text. <<< Welcome to jkyadav.com! This page is under construction. Please come back! >>> instead of taking us to the ilug-bombay site <www.ilug-bom.org> plz look into this problem. I have already sent a mail to the webmaster regarding this matter. Can someone help accelerate the change though?? --- vinayak hegde __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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FETCHMAIL
by acharya＠dacafe.com 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Hi all I want to configure fetchmail to fetch mails from a single pop account. with 10 aliases. All users have been created in local sendmail server. after fetchmail featchs the mail it should distribute to respective users. can it be possible, with fetchmail. Priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________

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ans to several Q's Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #421 - 10 msgs
by vinayak hegde 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

>From: Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Debug for Linux? > >Hi! >Usually we write simple programs using MS-Dos's debug "command" >Is there a parallel Linux utility ? >Also are there any assemblers like MASM TASM ? try the as86, nasm (free netwide assembler) or gas (GNU assembler). However none of them have a graphical interface like MASM or TASM. There is a utility called as hexdump which is similar to the debug command in DOS. --- vinayak >I would also like to clear some doubts: > >1. In DOS we use interrupts like int 20,int 21 etc.. which perform certain >tasks. >Are these interrupts apllicable to Linux also? Linux uses system kernel calls unlike int21h in DOS. Read the "linux assembly howto" and visit linuxassembly.com for more info The entire site is also available for download as a gzipped file. --- vinayak >2.In Assembly since we deal directly with CPU isn't it a >security risk? (I have come across some debug routines which clear CMOS , >destroy the hard disk partitions... !) > >3.Why there r so many books written for Assembly Programming which are >specific to Dos based Assemblers and debug? >Is Unix implementation for Assembly Programming difficult ? it is slightly more difficult. Also it is little different than DOS assembly. --- vinayak >Message: 6 >From: asif f <asif(a)techemail.com> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] booting problems > >i have a piii 866/128 mb/ intel 815 box board, and three partitions. the >first has win98 (ie-c:\) the second is free i have tried to install pcq >linux 7.1 on the third partition, the installation goes through smoothly, >and finishes and asks for a 1.44 media to be inserted for boot disk. but >after finishing the boot disk creation , the system cannot boot off the >diskette and start liniux, i have even tried using loadlin from dos prompt >but no luck . my linux is installed on hdc6 and when viewed through >windows shows 2 files one is redhat.img and one is a swap.img. is there a >way out to boot thig without going through reinstallation. hi asif, LILO does create some problems if the boot partition is after 1024 cylinder sometimes. Try grub,Xosl (www.xosl.org) or bootitng to cure the problem. I hope it will solve the problem. --- vinayak hegde >Message: 7 >From: Kishore Saxena <xccep(a)vsnl.com> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Please suggest a book for c programming in llinux > >hi there, > I came across a book called Linux Programming , by neil >mathew and richard stones. >i want to know if anyone has gone throught this book ( or knows a better >book ) >I would like to get well versed with c programming on linux. >-rahul I found the book really good for learning programming on linux. Actually there are two books on linux in the series Professional Linux Programming ( called plp ) - Wrox - For the advanced / intermediate user. Beginning Linux Programming ( called blp ) - Wrox - for the absolute beginner. How ever both this books do not focus exclusively on C but C on linux platform is covered in some detail. --- vinayak hegde >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >From: prithviraj chauhan <prithvirajchauhan(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] modem driver for linux > >i have a conexent modem hsf 56k >chip no rs56/sp-pc/11p1 >which i am not able to configure for linux >pl help me out Hi prithvi, check out the sites : linmodems.org www.linux.com/howto/Winmodems-and-Linux-HOWTO.html www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html also search on google for "motorola modem drivers for linux" without the quotes --- vinayak hegde

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CDROM mounting problems
by acharya＠dacafe.com 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

hi use this command once and try depmod -ae priyadarshi _____________________________________________________________

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CDROM mounting problems
by Gurpreet Singh 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

hi friends... plz plz someone help me with the CDROM problem. i am not being able to mount the cdrom it gives me an error as cdrom not a valid block device in /dev/cdrom i need to install more packages but all the work is stopped because of this problem.. plz also do tell me some good links on clustering information. thats it hopeint for replies Gurpreet On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote : >Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >specific >than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. [COMMERCIAL] Server Space (Goldwyn Rodrigues) > 2. Re: modem driver for linux (Devdas Bhagat) > 3. Re: fetching mail directly to PC (Devdas Bhagat) > 4. Re: help for host file (Devdas Bhagat) > 5. Re: Why is Unix still used? (Devdas Bhagat) > 6. Re: rsh ,rsync and telnet as root (Devdas Bhagat) > 7. Safe delete (Nikhil Joshi) > 8. Re: Safe delete (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?=) > 9. hostinfo.dat lost+found >(=?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?=) > 10. Re: [COMMERCIAL] Server Space (Navin [v 2.0]) > 11. RH Network.....Intrusion (Trevor Warren) > 12. RMS Minutes (Shishir) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 > From: "Goldwyn Rodrigues" <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:14:31 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi, > >I am a student of the MCA program from VJTI and we, the students, >plan to >start a unofficial standalone MCA site. The site would reflect >the current >activities and seminars happening in our course. The site would >be hit by >the students of the MCA program, students seeking admissions in >VJTI, the >companies coming in for recruitment and any other person >interested in >knowing more about our activities. > >We therefore require some server space, 5 MB to start with, to >host static >HTML pages. Anyone willing to offer space please contact me >personally off >the list. > >It's high time we update the site developed by Mr. Philip Tellis >ages ago. > >Thanking You, > >-- >Goldwyn :o) > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:39:31 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: modem driver for linux >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Philip S Tellis [21/03/02 22:48 +0530]: > > Sometime Today, prithviraj chauhan assembled some asciibets to >say: > > > > > i have a conexent modem hsf 56k > > > chip no rs56/sp-pc/11p1 > > > which i am not able to configure for linux > > > > i am not familiar with this modem, but what is the problem >that you are > > having? normally, modems work as generic devices. have you >tried > > connecting with minicom? >http://www.google.com/search?q=winmodem >http://www.winmodems.org > >Hope that helps > >Devdas Bhagat >-- > A crow perched himself on a telephone wire. He was going to >make a >long-distance caw. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:51:38 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: fetching mail directly to PC >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Nikhil Joshi [16/03/02 14:26 +0530]: > > Today @ 12:30pm Linux Lover wrote: > > > > > ( your ip address in square bracket). alternatively register >a domain and > > > set the MX to point to your IP .... > > > > can you tell me more about MX please >MX (aka Mail eXchanger) records are DNS records that specify >where mail for a >domain should go. >See th 4th Edition of DNS and Bind for details (ORA). Then get >your ISP to >setup a proper public static IP for you, with reverse DNS, and >get them to >delegate the forward authority to you(if possible). > >Setup the DNS first and then all the rest should work >automagically. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >Women treat us just as humanity treats its gods. They worship us >and are >always bothering us to do something for them. > -- Oscar Wilde > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:58:04 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: help for host file >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ pavan sharma [07/03/02 21:48 -0800]: > > Hi > > > > I am getting this messg. when i open host file > > ATTENTION > > Found a swap file by the name "/etc/.hosts.swp" > > dated: Fri Apr 20 14:41:42 2001 > > owned by: root > > file name: /etc/hosts > > host name: linux > > user name: root > > process ID: 484 > > While opening file "/etc/hosts" > > dated: Thu Mar 7 11:37:58 2002 > > > > CAN I DELETE .hosts.swp file & How ...? >You had an open vi(m) session when you tried to openb this >file. >If there is no vi(m) session holding this file open, rm -f >/etc/.hosts.swp >will fix the warning. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >"I don't understand," said the scientist, "why you lemmings all >rush down >to the sea and drown yourselves." > >"How curious," said the lemming. "The one thing I don't >understand is why >you human beings don't." > -- James Thurber > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:04:13 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Why is Unix still used? >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Nikhil Joshi [04/03/02 20:38 +0530]: > > From: "Philip S Tellis" <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:28 AM > > > > > Unix is still used because of two reasons. > > > 1. Legacy apps that haven't been ported > > > > What are legacy apps? Can you elaborate please. >Older application binaries compiled specifically for a specific >OS. >Also see: MS Office on a Linux box ;). > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >Why are you watching >The washing machine? >I love entertainment >So long as it's clean. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:12:00 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: rsh ,rsync and telnet as root >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Hiten Desai [08/03/02 19:48 -0800]: > > Hi!, > > > > I am trying to setup rsh and rsync for remote backup > > but I m not able to set rsh > > which from various sources I have came to know that > > there is one file called .rhosts >s/rsh/ssh/ >man ssh-keygen and man ssh (and sshd) > > > where is it ?? in redhat 7.1 is there some global file > > or some user specific file >.rhosts would be in the users home directory. Trust me, you don't >want to use >this. Use ssh wth key based authentication and non root >accounts. > >and man ssh-agent too, whilke you are at it. > >Devdas Bhagat > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:19:13 +0530 (IST) > From: Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Safe delete >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >How can I make an alias say del which when used will move >file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? > >i.e. when I type >$del foo >foo should be moved to $HOME/.trash >Please guide. > >-- > "You don't get to be mom if you can't fix everything just >right." -Calvin > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:25:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?= ><cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Safe delete >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >--- Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> wrote: > > > How can I make an alias say del which when used will move > > file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? > >Well, you can write a script as simple as this: > >#!/bin/sh >mv $1 $HOME/.trash > >Or you can go for something better. I don't know if you can >simply use the alias command. > >Manish > > >________________________________________________________________________ >For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:28:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?= ><cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> >To: lug <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] hostinfo.dat lost+found >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >/home/lost+found/\#491525/hostinfo.dat > >I want to put that file back to where it belongs. Can someone >tell me where the file belongs? It's a netscape file. I'm on >rh7.2. > >Manish > > >________________________________________________________________________ >For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 > From: "Navin [v 2.0]" <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Cc: <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:05:45 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >This mail is not commercial... >But it is OFFTOPIC. > >Can't U start with the Free No Banners Hosting.. > >Thereis >1. http://www.brinskster.com >2. http://www.united.net.kg/ >3. http://www.marhost.com/home.stm >4. http://www.irepublics.com/ >5. http://www.f2g.net/register.shtml > >All you guys have to do is buy a domain .. the costs these days >are abt. >just Rs. 300-350 >And with http://www.domainredirect.com forward it to your >free-webhost @ say >Brinkster. > >Navin Dhanuka > >"Some succeed because >they are destined to, >but most succeed because >they are determined to." >----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goldwyn Rodrigues" <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:14 AM >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space > > > > Hi, > > > > I am a student of the MCA program from VJTI and we, the >students, plan to > > start a unofficial standalone MCA site. The site would reflect >the current > > activities and seminars happening in our course. The site >would be hit by > > the students of the MCA program, students seeking admissions >in VJTI, the > > companies coming in for recruitment and any other person >interested in > > knowing more about our activities. > > > > We therefore require some server space, 5 MB to start with, >to host >static > > HTML pages. Anyone willing to offer space please contact me >personally off > > the list. > > > > It's high time we update the site developed by Mr. Philip >Tellis ages ago. > > > > Thanking You, > > > > -- > > Goldwyn :o) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:17:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] RH Network.....Intrusion >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > >Rejected packets from updates.redhat.com >(63.240.14.70). > Port 1963 (tcp,ppp0,input): 1 packet(s). > Port 1935 (tcp,ppp0,input): 1 packet(s). >Total of 2 packet(s). > > > The above is a snippet of my firewall logz....U >think RHNetwork is tryin an auto-fix or some shit like >that. > Cause i dont remeber initiating any upgrade meself & >i even don't hav the RHNSD Deamon >runnin...........sheeeeesh...;) > > Could some1 pliss confirm this for me.....I would luv >to take RH's *** on this...;) > >Trevor Warren > > > > >===== >( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE

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booting problems
by asif f 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

i have a piii 866/128 mb/ intel 815 box board, and three partitions. the first has win98 (ie-c:\) the second is free i have tried to install pcq linux 7.1 on the third partition, the installation goes through smoothly, and finishes and asks for a 1.44 media to be inserted for boot disk. but after finishing the boot disk creation , the system cannot boot off the diskette and start liniux, i have even tried using loadlin from dos prompt but no luck . my linux is installed on hdc6 and when viewed through windows shows 2 files one is redhat.img and one is a swap.img. is there a way out to boot thig without going through reinstallation. thanks in advance _____________________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com _____________________________________________________________ Run a small business? Then you need professional email like you(a)yourbiz.com from Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net?tag

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Marathi on Linux (using Devnagari)
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Hi , Thats very much interesting...... Cheers, Darshan ............The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets................... =========================== _\ /_ mail-me-at : office(a)darshanw.org / \ =========================== jitendra <jitendras(a)vsnl.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Sent by: cc: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug- Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Marathi on Linux (using bom.org.in Devnagari) 20-03-2007 06:14 PM Please respond to linuxers I am keen on using emacs mule utility for indian script say devnagari. I go to mule and select devnagari. What next. What is the layout of keyboard. Is it purely transliteration from english phionetically. Any examples, tutorials? Can some one send a specific adress so I can communicate. I am trying to create a group (including interested housewives and students and engg college teachers) to creat linux messages in Marathi.I would like to use Mule for that. Then I want to proiceed to marathi-ise internationalised versions of software. Would any one like to join. Please read Arth-Vrittant of 18 march which is a supplement to Loksatta. Jitendra _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[Query] ACM Seminar on Ruby - 15-3-2002
by sachin 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Is everybody invited to the seminar or Does the ACM seminar has entry fee? and tell the detail address of Place pls. sachin -- sachin(a)mediaibc.com Mi

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Form Filling
by jitendra 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Please fill the form. Use english if necessary.Marathi if you have such a driver+fonts. Pl inform if any difficulty. Jitendra

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Help in lynx
by Monil Chheda 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Dear friends, I would like to execute a lynx command in a cron that visits a particular url.But i get an error "Your terminal lacks the ability to clear te screen" How do i get rid of this message and get my crontab run and visit a specific url? Thanks for your help in advance Best Regards, Monil Chheda. =========================== http://www.eliteral.com http://domains.eliteral.com =========================== If it happens once, it's a bug. If it happens twice, it's a feature. If it happens more than twice, it's a design philosophy. ========================================================

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modem driver for linux
by prithviraj chauhan 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

i have a conexent modem hsf 56k chip no rs56/sp-pc/11p1 which i am not able to configure for linux pl help me out __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

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Please suggest a book for c programming in llinux
by Kishore Saxena 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

hi there, I came across a book called Linux Programming , by neil mathew and richard stones. i want to know if anyone has gone throught this book ( or knows a better book ) / how good is it comapred to other books / or if its actually required at all. I am basically a newbie, and my ability to program is limited to c in dos. I would like to get well versed with c programming on linux. can anyone offer tips on this ? Thanks for reading with regards -rahul P.S. this is a link to the index page of the book. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1861002971/reade… _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Hello could you please help?
by George Ho 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Dear Sir, I saw you posting in the message board, and would like to ask for your help. I am using redhat 7.l and ASUS P4S333 motherboard, which has a LAN card on board. I just can't successfully "insmod". Everytime when I "insmod sis900", it just said "No such device" I think for RedHat 7.1, the kernel is new enough not to compile the sis driver into itself, right? Therefore, what can I do now? Could you give me some hints? Thanks! George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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8086 emulator and cobol compiler for linux
by Philip S Tellis 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:15:58 From: vinayak hegde <vinayak_hegde(a)hotmail.com> Let me introduce myself first. I am Vinayak V Hegde. I am currently studying in Final year computer engineering in parshvanath CoE,Thane. I got your email id from linuxusers mailing list @ ilug-bombay. I have just joined the list. It seems i have missed a lot from not being there on the list. I would be very grate ful if you could help me with the following issues. We have setup a linux diskless lab in our college consisting of 150 diskless terminals (with remote booting ) and 2 servers.( we did in around 2 months including the cabling and the physical connections. It took lots of trial and error to set it up). We are facing some problems getting a suitable 8086 emulator for linux (I tried pcemu but could not <make> it without errors). Also there are problems in procuring a cobol compiler. (we are using a tinycobol compiler currently but it is not good enough as it does not support all the features of the lang). Could you help us in this regard?

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Safe delete
by Nikhil Joshi 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

How can I make an alias say del which when used will move file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? i.e. when I type $del foo foo should be moved to $HOME/.trash Please guide. -- "You don't get to be mom if you can't fix everything just right." -Calvin

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #419 - 12 msgs
by Gurpreet Singh 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

hi friends... i need some help. i am not being able to mount the cdrom. it gives me a message like cdrom is not a valid block device in /dev/cdrom in /dev directory the cdrom file is a link to hdc file. i also have aan entry in fstab . plz advice how can i mount the cdrom plz do also send me some good links on clustering thx Gurepreet On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote : >Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >specific >than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. [COMMERCIAL] Server Space (Goldwyn Rodrigues) > 2. Re: modem driver for linux (Devdas Bhagat) > 3. Re: fetching mail directly to PC (Devdas Bhagat) > 4. Re: help for host file (Devdas Bhagat) > 5. Re: Why is Unix still used? (Devdas Bhagat) > 6. Re: rsh ,rsync and telnet as root (Devdas Bhagat) > 7. Safe delete (Nikhil Joshi) > 8. Re: Safe delete (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?=) > 9. hostinfo.dat lost+found >(=?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?=) > 10. Re: [COMMERCIAL] Server Space (Navin [v 2.0]) > 11. RH Network.....Intrusion (Trevor Warren) > 12. RMS Minutes (Shishir) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 > From: "Goldwyn Rodrigues" <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:14:31 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi, > >I am a student of the MCA program from VJTI and we, the students, >plan to >start a unofficial standalone MCA site. The site would reflect >the current >activities and seminars happening in our course. The site would >be hit by >the students of the MCA program, students seeking admissions in >VJTI, the >companies coming in for recruitment and any other person >interested in >knowing more about our activities. > >We therefore require some server space, 5 MB to start with, to >host static >HTML pages. Anyone willing to offer space please contact me >personally off >the list. > >It's high time we update the site developed by Mr. Philip Tellis >ages ago. > >Thanking You, > >-- >Goldwyn :o) > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:39:31 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: modem driver for linux >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Philip S Tellis [21/03/02 22:48 +0530]: > > Sometime Today, prithviraj chauhan assembled some asciibets to >say: > > > > > i have a conexent modem hsf 56k > > > chip no rs56/sp-pc/11p1 > > > which i am not able to configure for linux > > > > i am not familiar with this modem, but what is the problem >that you are > > having? normally, modems work as generic devices. have you >tried > > connecting with minicom? >http://www.google.com/search?q=winmodem >http://www.winmodems.org > >Hope that helps > >Devdas Bhagat >-- > A crow perched himself on a telephone wire. He was going to >make a >long-distance caw. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:51:38 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: fetching mail directly to PC >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Nikhil Joshi [16/03/02 14:26 +0530]: > > Today @ 12:30pm Linux Lover wrote: > > > > > ( your ip address in square bracket). alternatively register >a domain and > > > set the MX to point to your IP .... > > > > can you tell me more about MX please >MX (aka Mail eXchanger) records are DNS records that specify >where mail for a >domain should go. >See th 4th Edition of DNS and Bind for details (ORA). Then get >your ISP to >setup a proper public static IP for you, with reverse DNS, and >get them to >delegate the forward authority to you(if possible). > >Setup the DNS first and then all the rest should work >automagically. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >Women treat us just as humanity treats its gods. They worship us >and are >always bothering us to do something for them. > -- Oscar Wilde > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:58:04 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: help for host file >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ pavan sharma [07/03/02 21:48 -0800]: > > Hi > > > > I am getting this messg. when i open host file > > ATTENTION > > Found a swap file by the name "/etc/.hosts.swp" > > dated: Fri Apr 20 14:41:42 2001 > > owned by: root > > file name: /etc/hosts > > host name: linux > > user name: root > > process ID: 484 > > While opening file "/etc/hosts" > > dated: Thu Mar 7 11:37:58 2002 > > > > CAN I DELETE .hosts.swp file & How ...? >You had an open vi(m) session when you tried to openb this >file. >If there is no vi(m) session holding this file open, rm -f >/etc/.hosts.swp >will fix the warning. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >"I don't understand," said the scientist, "why you lemmings all >rush down >to the sea and drown yourselves." > >"How curious," said the lemming. "The one thing I don't >understand is why >you human beings don't." > -- James Thurber > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:04:13 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Why is Unix still used? >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Nikhil Joshi [04/03/02 20:38 +0530]: > > From: "Philip S Tellis" <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:28 AM > > > > > Unix is still used because of two reasons. > > > 1. Legacy apps that haven't been ported > > > > What are legacy apps? Can you elaborate please. >Older application binaries compiled specifically for a specific >OS. >Also see: MS Office on a Linux box ;). > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >Why are you watching >The washing machine? >I love entertainment >So long as it's clean. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:12:00 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: rsh ,rsync and telnet as root >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Hiten Desai [08/03/02 19:48 -0800]: > > Hi!, > > > > I am trying to setup rsh and rsync for remote backup > > but I m not able to set rsh > > which from various sources I have came to know that > > there is one file called .rhosts >s/rsh/ssh/ >man ssh-keygen and man ssh (and sshd) > > > where is it ?? in redhat 7.1 is there some global file > > or some user specific file >.rhosts would be in the users home directory. Trust me, you don't >want to use >this. Use ssh wth key based authentication and non root >accounts. > >and man ssh-agent too, whilke you are at it. > >Devdas Bhagat > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:19:13 +0530 (IST) > From: Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Safe delete >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >How can I make an alias say del which when used will move >file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? > >i.e. when I type >$del foo >foo should be moved to $HOME/.trash >Please guide. > >-- > "You don't get to be mom if you can't fix everything just >right." -Calvin > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:25:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?= ><cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Safe delete >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >--- Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> wrote: > > > How can I make an alias say del which when used will move > > file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? > >Well, you can write a script as simple as this: > >#!/bin/sh >mv $1 $HOME/.trash > >Or you can go for something better. I don't know if you can >simply use the alias command. > >Manish > > >________________________________________________________________________ >For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:28:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?= ><cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> >To: lug <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] hostinfo.dat lost+found >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >/home/lost+found/\#491525/hostinfo.dat > >I want to put that file back to where it belongs. Can someone >tell me where the file belongs? It's a netscape file. I'm on >rh7.2. > >Manish > > >________________________________________________________________________ >For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 > From: "Navin [v 2.0]" <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Cc: <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:05:45 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >This mail is not commercial... >But it is OFFTOPIC. > >Can't U start with the Free No Banners Hosting.. > >Thereis >1. http://www.brinskster.com >2. http://www.united.net.kg/ >3. http://www.marhost.com/home.stm >4. http://www.irepublics.com/ >5. http://www.f2g.net/register.shtml > >All you guys have to do is buy a domain .. the costs these days >are abt. >just Rs. 300-350 >And with http://www.domainredirect.com forward it to your >free-webhost @ say >Brinkster. > >Navin Dhanuka > >"Some succeed because >they are destined to, >

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cdrom mounting problem
by Gurpreet Singh 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

hi friends... i need some help. i am not being able to mount the cdrom. it gives me a message like cdrom is not a valid block device in /dev/cdrom in /dev directory the cdrom file is a link to hdc file. i also have aan entry in fstab . plz advice how can i mount the cdrom plz do also send me some good links on clustering thx Gurepreet On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote : >Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >specific >than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. [COMMERCIAL] Server Space (Goldwyn Rodrigues) > 2. Re: modem driver for linux (Devdas Bhagat) > 3. Re: fetching mail directly to PC (Devdas Bhagat) > 4. Re: help for host file (Devdas Bhagat) > 5. Re: Why is Unix still used? (Devdas Bhagat) > 6. Re: rsh ,rsync and telnet as root (Devdas Bhagat) > 7. Safe delete (Nikhil Joshi) > 8. Re: Safe delete (=?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?=) > 9. hostinfo.dat lost+found >(=?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?=) > 10. Re: [COMMERCIAL] Server Space (Navin [v 2.0]) > 11. RH Network.....Intrusion (Trevor Warren) > 12. RMS Minutes (Shishir) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 > From: "Goldwyn Rodrigues" <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:14:31 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Hi, > >I am a student of the MCA program from VJTI and we, the students, >plan to >start a unofficial standalone MCA site. The site would reflect >the current >activities and seminars happening in our course. The site would >be hit by >the students of the MCA program, students seeking admissions in >VJTI, the >companies coming in for recruitment and any other person >interested in >knowing more about our activities. > >We therefore require some server space, 5 MB to start with, to >host static >HTML pages. Anyone willing to offer space please contact me >personally off >the list. > >It's high time we update the site developed by Mr. Philip Tellis >ages ago. > >Thanking You, > >-- >Goldwyn :o) > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:39:31 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: modem driver for linux >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Philip S Tellis [21/03/02 22:48 +0530]: > > Sometime Today, prithviraj chauhan assembled some asciibets to >say: > > > > > i have a conexent modem hsf 56k > > > chip no rs56/sp-pc/11p1 > > > which i am not able to configure for linux > > > > i am not familiar with this modem, but what is the problem >that you are > > having? normally, modems work as generic devices. have you >tried > > connecting with minicom? >http://www.google.com/search?q=winmodem >http://www.winmodems.org > >Hope that helps > >Devdas Bhagat >-- > A crow perched himself on a telephone wire. He was going to >make a >long-distance caw. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:51:38 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: fetching mail directly to PC >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Nikhil Joshi [16/03/02 14:26 +0530]: > > Today @ 12:30pm Linux Lover wrote: > > > > > ( your ip address in square bracket). alternatively register >a domain and > > > set the MX to point to your IP .... > > > > can you tell me more about MX please >MX (aka Mail eXchanger) records are DNS records that specify >where mail for a >domain should go. >See th 4th Edition of DNS and Bind for details (ORA). Then get >your ISP to >setup a proper public static IP for you, with reverse DNS, and >get them to >delegate the forward authority to you(if possible). > >Setup the DNS first and then all the rest should work >automagically. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >Women treat us just as humanity treats its gods. They worship us >and are >always bothering us to do something for them. > -- Oscar Wilde > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:58:04 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: help for host file >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ pavan sharma [07/03/02 21:48 -0800]: > > Hi > > > > I am getting this messg. when i open host file > > ATTENTION > > Found a swap file by the name "/etc/.hosts.swp" > > dated: Fri Apr 20 14:41:42 2001 > > owned by: root > > file name: /etc/hosts > > host name: linux > > user name: root > > process ID: 484 > > While opening file "/etc/hosts" > > dated: Thu Mar 7 11:37:58 2002 > > > > CAN I DELETE .hosts.swp file & How ...? >You had an open vi(m) session when you tried to openb this >file. >If there is no vi(m) session holding this file open, rm -f >/etc/.hosts.swp >will fix the warning. > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >"I don't understand," said the scientist, "why you lemmings all >rush down >to the sea and drown yourselves." > >"How curious," said the lemming. "The one thing I don't >understand is why >you human beings don't." > -- James Thurber > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:04:13 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Why is Unix still used? >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Nikhil Joshi [04/03/02 20:38 +0530]: > > From: "Philip S Tellis" <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:28 AM > > > > > Unix is still used because of two reasons. > > > 1. Legacy apps that haven't been ported > > > > What are legacy apps? Can you elaborate please. >Older application binaries compiled specifically for a specific >OS. >Also see: MS Office on a Linux box ;). > >Devdas Bhagat >-- >Why are you watching >The washing machine? >I love entertainment >So long as it's clean. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:12:00 +0600 > From: Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Organization: Eh? Whats that? >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Re: rsh ,rsync and telnet as root >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >+++ Hiten Desai [08/03/02 19:48 -0800]: > > Hi!, > > > > I am trying to setup rsh and rsync for remote backup > > but I m not able to set rsh > > which from various sources I have came to know that > > there is one file called .rhosts >s/rsh/ssh/ >man ssh-keygen and man ssh (and sshd) > > > where is it ?? in redhat 7.1 is there some global file > > or some user specific file >.rhosts would be in the users home directory. Trust me, you don't >want to use >this. Use ssh wth key based authentication and non root >accounts. > >and man ssh-agent too, whilke you are at it. > >Devdas Bhagat > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:19:13 +0530 (IST) > From: Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Safe delete >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >How can I make an alias say del which when used will move >file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? > >i.e. when I type >$del foo >foo should be moved to $HOME/.trash >Please guide. > >-- > "You don't get to be mom if you can't fix everything just >right." -Calvin > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:25:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?= ><cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Safe delete >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >--- Nikhil Joshi <nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com> wrote: > > > How can I make an alias say del which when used will move > > file(s)/folder(s) to $HOME/.trash ? > >Well, you can write a script as simple as this: > >#!/bin/sh >mv $1 $HOME/.trash > >Or you can go for something better. I don't know if you can >simply use the alias command. > >Manish > > >________________________________________________________________________ >For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:28:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Manish=20Jethani?= ><cruisecoder(a)yahoo.com> >To: lug <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] hostinfo.dat lost+found >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >/home/lost+found/\#491525/hostinfo.dat > >I want to put that file back to where it belongs. Can someone >tell me where the file belongs? It's a netscape file. I'm on >rh7.2. > >Manish > > >________________________________________________________________________ >For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker > at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 > From: "Navin [v 2.0]" <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Cc: <goldwyn_r(a)fastmail.fm> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] Server Space >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:05:45 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >This mail is not commercial... >But it is OFFTOPIC. > >Can't U start with the Free No Banners Hosting.. > >Thereis >1. http://www.brinskster.com >2. http://www.united.net.kg/ >3. http://www.marhost.com/home.stm >4. http://www.irepublics.com/ >5. http://www.f2g.net/register.shtml > >All you guys have to do is buy a domain .. the costs these days >are abt. >just Rs. 300-350 >And with http://www.domainredirect.com forward it to your >free-webhost @ say >Brinkster. > >Navin Dhanuka > >"Some succeed because >they are destined to, >

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hostinfo.dat lost+found
by Manish Jethani 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

/home/lost+found/\#491525/hostinfo.dat I want to put that file back to where it belongs. Can someone tell me where the file belongs? It's a netscape file. I'm on rh7.2. Manish ________________________________________________________________________ For live cricket scores download Yahoo! Score Tracker at: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/tracker.html

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rsh ,rsync and telnet as root
by Hiten Desai 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Hi!, I am trying to setup rsh and rsync for remote backup but I m not able to set rsh which from various sources I have came to know that there is one file called .rhosts where is it ?? in redhat 7.1 is there some global file or some user specific file and if at all I want to telnet as root directly NOT WITH "su -l root" what to do I would like to setup up rsh from particular machine so that I would be able to login without password, and this a version specific I m using RH 7.1 Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Why is Unix still used?
by Nikhil Joshi 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

What is the purpose of using Unix in todays scenario when we have Linux? AFAIK UNIX is great in SMP (100s of processors if I'm not wrong) but Linux lags behind by a long way (8-10 processors AFAIK). Is this the only reason or there r many more? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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help for host file
by pavan sharma 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Hi I am getting this messg. when i open host file ATTENTION Found a swap file by the name "/etc/.hosts.swp" dated: Fri Apr 20 14:41:42 2001 owned by: root file name: /etc/hosts host name: linux user name: root process ID: 484 While opening file "/etc/hosts" dated: Thu Mar 7 11:37:58 2002 CAN I DELETE .hosts.swp file & How ...? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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fetching mail directly to PC
by Nikhil Joshi 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Is it possible to receive email directly to my PC if I have a static IP address (cable net)? i.e. without using yahoo or my isp. I plan to keep my PC powered on all the time. If I can send mail without externel smtp server of isp or yahoo etc. (with the help of sendmail) I should also be able to receive mail right? Please enlighten -- Insufficient facts always invite danger. -- Spock, "Space Seed", stardate 3141.9

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Does any one have libtinfo.so.5 ?
by Nikhil Joshi 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Hi! Does anyone have the file libtinfo.so.5 ? I've installed ncurses but still I don't have the file I compiled ncurses but it did not give me the reqd library. Please mail me the file if anyone has it My mail ID : nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com Thx. -- I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to seriously re-examine your life. -- Calvin

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Free software and price (was Re: Richard Stallman: Free Software and India)
by Amish Mehta 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Can I sell a program written by me which uses GNU-libc? Because GPL says if I use any of programs licensed by GPL I must not charge for it. Cant I legally charge reasonable price for whatever I have written? Amish. Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > Stallman says, 'free' software is not about the price (and says companies are free to charge a sum to offer the operating system and services to users)

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Proposal for a Meet on 6th Jan
by Nagarjuna G. 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

I am proposing a meet on 6th Jan, and also proposing an agenda (if Sameer agrees to it): Using SGML to generate Documents, and converting SGML/XML to other popular formats like, ps, rtf, pdf etc. I have been using LaTeX for this task and highly satisfied, and would also love to learn the SGML tools to do the same. It is necessary that the hackers on the list should learn the power of these time tested tools, and should be introduced to them sooner than later. Should we decide Sameer! on your introduction/tutorial to structured documentation using SGML? Nagarjuna -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/gn/ Key fingerprint = C1E2 1B8C 8E98 A697 68B7 ADAC E956 6D4B DE90 BF01

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Dowload from http site
by noel seq 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

How do I automate download from an http site using lynx. I have set a cron job for downloading a file from a http site. When I give lynx http://site, it goes to the site and asks for (D)ownload /(C)ancel Only when i press d it downloads the file from the site. However, I want to download the file without manual intervention. lynx -dump htt://site gives me ascii output on the screen. Any suggestions. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Change of Email ID
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

Hey guys, There is a news that Yahoo!'s POP mail service is becoming paid. Not the Web-based mailing system, though So, I've decided to change to some other Free POP based mailing server. Right now, I'm using SoftHome.net. Hence, I want to change this subscription to ILUG-BOM from my Y! address to softhome address. Any help on how this can be done without me subscribing again??? Kunal ------------------ I'm your dream, make you real I'm your eyes when you must steal I'm your pain when you can't feel sad but true Metallica - Sad But True _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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kernel cd
by abhijeetmore＠rolta.net 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

Hi, Can somebody on the list write kernel 2.4 and 2.2 on a cd for me? My internet connection isn't very fast, so I've given up hoping to be able to download it. And Yes, I stay at New Bombay,so a closer location would be preferable. (If that's not asking for too much!) ciao abhijeet

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Richard Stallman: Free Software and India
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

Hi guys! So finally here's the "official" notification for RMS' talk in IITB. Most of you already know about his visit to Mumbai, and I guess there is no real need to introduce RMS to you :-) Please do come for the lecture. Date: Saturday, 23rd March 2002 Time: 4pm onwards Venue: Convocation Hall For directions for getting to IITB and to the convocation hall, please refer to this resource on the IITB website: http://www.iitb.ac.in/campus/howto/howtoget.html Here's an article that had recently figured in the Financial Express. Free software Guru -- Richard Stallman -- on India mission March 14, 2002 While the concept of using free software for back-end requirements is catching on, the desktop is yet to be liberated from the hold of the largest proprietary operating system (OS) corporations. So, as the free software movement guru Richard M Stallman sets out to spread the wings of the Free Software Foundation in India, helping build applications for the desktop that will reach the common man a daunting agenda lies ahead. Besides gearing up to popularise free software, both at the back end and especially the desktop, empowering developers to make applications ubiquitous, working with state governments to promote free software use in e-governance and using it as an effective tool to work towards bridging the digital divide is the core of Stallman's India agenda. 'Apprenticeship by tinkering' is clearly set to be the name of the game. Richard Stallman is the man behind GNU/Linux (GNU developed by Stallman and a Linux kernel developed by Linus Torwalds) open source operating system, which is believed to have more than 17 million installations worldwide. Interestingly, Stallman says, 'free' software is not about the price (and says companies are free to charge a sum to offer the operating system and services to users), but is all about the freedom and openness of use. The Free Software Foundation itself makes most of its revenues by selling copies of the software and training manuals while some funds come in by way of donations. The foundation is also looking at a business model where it will function as the certifying agency and will certify compliance of free software users with the licensing rules. "Countries can avoid paying gigantic amounts of money towards licensing of proprietary software. Specific to India, free software can be used to support computer science education at all levels. This also allows for anyone to use and learn," he said. Interestingly, the free software movement with GNU/Linux has already made inroads in India. To cite examples the Andhra Pradesh government is already set to execute projects on the free OS, while the well-known Simputer Trust has showcased this OS in its low-cost computing appliance - Simputer and some of the new technology start-ups like CDC Linux are already developing high-end clustering and parallel supercomputing solutions on the GNU/Linux operating system. Source: The Financial Express -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay.

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ACM Seminar-Fri Mar 22,2002-"Introducing Python" by Chirag Wazir
by Philip S Tellis 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

hello folks, We are organizing a seminar: "Introducing Python" by Chirag Wazir at NCST juhu (probably in the seminar room due to DEP being held in the lecture theatre). Details of the seminar/speaker are given below. All are cordially invited. Please note that there won't be a video-conference link-up to ncst,vashi for this seminar. regards - Jayprasad J. Hegde on behalf of the ACM Mumbai Chapter. ACM Seminar Friday, March 22, 2002 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Introducing Python Speaker: Chirag Wazir Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: Python is an increasingly popular scripting and programming language. This seminar will cover Python basics from the point of view of a programmer who knows one or more other languages. About the Speaker: Chirag Wazir is a freelance programmer and consultant. He spends most of his time reading and is interested in almost everything, especially those things computer-related.

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(no subject)
by Girish Hanchate 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

At what time the meeting is there & where in IIT premises. Rgds girish If any ILUG-BOM members are interested , they may join a meeting on Saturday at IIT where some are meeting. This is in response to an appeal made in ArthVrittant article on Stallman, by Anil Shaligram on 18 March issue of Loksatta. Some of the ideas that came up while thinking about Marathi Linux There are 3 levels of work in Marathi-isation 1> Applications like office software: Free softwares like a>StarOffice , which are quite a good substitute for MS-Office and available in Linux : b> GIS softwares like GRASS or MYWorld useful for urgent problms like water and environment c> educational softwares Like LOGO, STARLOGO, Model-It, Worldwatcher, DrGenius We need to translate the labels and messages and documentations and tutorials, multi-lingual CDs with multimedia. 2>Creating application in Marathi: Using gtk, glade emacs etc. 3> Working at the OS level : Creating labels/message table in marathi. NCST has already done a large part for Hindi, some in Marathi too. We also need to create mass awereness thru newspaper article in all the press. We should ask our local cybercafe to have marathi software loaded. AKRUTI have agrred to support anyone helping. Similarly other Marathi and Indian language developers can be asked to make offers. This would make the idea of working in Indian language a day-to-day affair without too much cost. jitendra For details contact jitendras(a)vsnl.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

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Modem (ttyS1) busy error
by Nikhil Joshi 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hi! I am not able to connect to net using wvdial as a normal user. when i give command $wvdial ISP it gives following message: --> Cannot open /dev/ttyS1: Device or resource busy But I can connect normally as root The permissions of ttyS1 are as follows: crw------- 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 20 08:03 /dev/ttyS1 please guide

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unresolved symbols in shared library
by kshitijv 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hi Friends, I am creating a shared library using gcc for interfacing with SAP. This library uses functions from 3 static libraries. Out of these 3 static libraries one is provided by SAP and contains all the APIs required for communication with any third party software. I am linking these static libraries with the shared one by following command. gcc -o "shared lib" "obj of lib created using -fPIC" -l"staticlib1" -l"staticlib2" -l"staticlib3" I can't mention the lib names. I am able to create the library, but it contains unresolved symbols for the functions defined in the static libraries. One thing to note is all these symbols are either global or inline functions. But all of them have valid definitions in the corresponding static libraries. (globals in SAP provided lib, and others in our libs) I think the linking sequence for gcc is from right to left. But when I try to link the SAP provided library after the other two, ld terminates with segmentation fault. Changing the order of other 2 libs doesn't give problems. The only SAP library gives trouble. I am not able to find any solution to this problem. Can anybody help me? It will be nice if I could get more info about linker sequence, creation of symbol tables, etc. regards, -Kshitij. kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] ACM Seminar on Ruby - 15-3-2002
by Sunil.Vikram＠silverline.com 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

psl mail the time also -----Original Message----- From: Philip S Tellis Sent: Mon 3/11/2002 1:09 PM To: Linux Users Cc: Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] ACM Seminar on Ruby - 15-3-2002 The next ACM seminar will be on the 15th March at NCST Juhu. The seminar is presented by Vivek Nallur - FreeBSD user. Be there. PS: Ruby is a perl like language with cleaner syntax, and is designed with OO in mind. -- I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!! _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #412 - 8 msgs
by Gurpreet Singh 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

hi lug memebers plz can u gimme some info on high performance computing using linux. maybe some ebooks, or some links but shud start from the basic level, shudnt be too hi fi thx Gurpreet PS: hi trevor.... anything fixed about stallmans visit to mumbai. i mean the agenda? i attanded his talk in PICT, pune. it was an ethical one. will the one in mumbai have some technical touch?? On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote : >Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >specific >than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Certification (Linux Lover) > 2. Re: (no subject) (Shishir) > 3. Re: (no subject) (Linux Lover) > 4. a movie vry geek must c (Trevor Warren) > 5. a movie vry geek must c (Trevor Warren) > 6. search in action (Philip S Tellis) > 7. lug search engine (Philip S Tellis) > 8. Re: Emacs manual (Pankaj Jangid) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 > From: "Linux Lover" <liloindia(a)yahoo.co.in> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:53:06 +0530 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Certification >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >Dear Linuxers, > >I am in a mood to get certified.... but the problem is I am not >able to >decide which certification should I go for. > >I have two options > >1) RHCE >2) LPIC > >Do you know any other Linux Certification recognised by market >? >What do you people suggest ? > >Regards >LiLo > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 > From: "Shishir" <mail2shishir(a)yahoo.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:44:41 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > >----- Original Message ----- > From: "prashant wamanrao arbat" <p_arbat(a)rediffmail.com> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 00:50 >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) > > > > Can any one gives me information about Exams for linux's > > taken by Brainbench.Will any one has ebooks or other >materiel > > for > > linux cert exams > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 > From: "Linux Lover" <liloindia(a)yahoo.co.in> >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:03:36 +0530 >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >There is a downloadable zip at IBM site.. for LPI 101.... search >in google. >and rute's tutorial is also good .. phir apna linuxdoc.org hai hi >na.... >lilo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "prashant wamanrao arbat" <p_arbat(a)rediffmail.com> > > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 00:50 > > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject) > > > > > > > Can any one gives me information about Exams for linux's > > > taken by Brainbench.Will any one has ebooks or other >materiel > > > for > > > linux cert exams > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:43:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] a movie vry geek must c >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > >http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php? >op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=5 > >Revolution OS is a short (85 minute) documentary, >charting the origins of the open source movement. I >learned of its existence via a last minute email from >my local LUG (Linux User Group) mailing list. While I >have only once attended a LUG meeting, I took the >opportunity to catch the Linux flick > >Trevor Warren > > >===== >( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) >/~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ >| \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | >|_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage >http://sports.yahoo.com/ > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:43:21 -0800 (PST) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] a movie vry geek must c >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > >http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php? >op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=5 > >Revolution OS is a short (85 minute) documentary, >charting the origins of the open source movement. I >learned of its existence via a last minute email from >my local LUG (Linux User Group) mailing list. While I >have only once attended a LUG meeting, I took the >opportunity to catch the Linux flick................. > >Trevor Warren > > >===== >( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) >/~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ >| \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | >|_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage >http://sports.yahoo.com/ > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:36:50 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> >To: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] search in action >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >if you want to see the synonyms in action, search for something >like >linux localisation and look at the references in the results >page. >that's currently there for debugging, i'll remove it in a couple >of >weeks (unless you'll like seeing it there :) > >-- >Nothing ever becomes real until it is experienced. >- John Keats > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:34:53 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> >To: Linux Users <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] lug search engine >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >the lug search engine has been spruced up a bit. it now supports >stop >words and synonyms. this should help get better search results, >but for >now, I need to collect data on the kind of searches that people >carry >out. basically, i need you'll to use the search as you normally >would. >search for real topics. > >ciao, > >philip > >-- >"We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievement." >-- Richard J. Daley > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:06:45 +0530 > From: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj_jangid(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Emacs manual >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > >--8NvZYKFJsRX2Djef >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:44:41PM +0530, Shishir wrote: > > > Can any one gives me information about Exams for linux's > > > taken by Brainbench.Will any one has ebooks or other >materiel=20 > > > for > > > linux cert exams > >Read emacs tutorial first, which you can get by pressing C-h-t. > >For full documentation read info pages of Emacs or read html >version > from gnu.org or may be your /usr/share/docs/emacs.. > >--=20 >Pankaj Jangid >National Centre for Software Technology > >Yahoo-msnger : pankaj_jangid >GPG Public Key : http://ashoka.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt > >--8NvZYKFJsRX2Djef >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE8lsBd4t40miPB/l4RAlmHAJwLgRIwweJ8DWtpwimebVLPwZqNcQCcDlSf >CIqGXjPLfOjEAf712wE2uQU= >=a5w4 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--8NvZYKFJsRX2Djef-- > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > >End of Linuxers Digest

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(no subject)
by prashant wamanrao arbat 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Can any one gives me information about Exams for linux's taken by Brainbench.Will any one has ebooks or other materiel for linux cert exams

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lug search engine
by Philip S Tellis 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

the lug search engine has been spruced up a bit. it now supports stop words and synonyms. this should help get better search results, but for now, I need to collect data on the kind of searches that people carry out. basically, i need you'll to use the search as you normally would. search for real topics. ciao, philip -- "We shall reach greater and greater platitudes of achievement." -- Richard J. Daley

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search in action
by Philip S Tellis 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

if you want to see the synonyms in action, search for something like linux localisation and look at the references in the results page. that's currently there for debugging, i'll remove it in a couple of weeks (unless you'll like seeing it there :) -- Nothing ever becomes real until it is experienced. - John Keats

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TOMNET- newly started. Join and avail my gift offers
by N.Manohara Kurup. 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

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Certification
by Linux Lover 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Dear Linuxers, I am in a mood to get certified.... but the problem is I am not able to decide which certification should I go for. I have two options 1) RHCE 2) LPIC Do you know any other Linux Certification recognised by market ? What do you people suggest ? Regards LiLo

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mounting win n/w m/c on linux using samba
by Harsh R Busa 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

hi i have a star n/w with a Linux Server , NT server as PDC and Win98 Clients. i have installed samba on Linux and it works just fine. but there are 2 problems. 1) i m only able to login from NT server. though linux samba server can be seen on the entire n/w of win98 m/c i cant login. 2) once i login in a particular acct on samba thru NT, the session remains open till i logout from NT. i cant even switch samba logins there. please enlighten Harsh _____________________________ Give me Bijli and Bandwidth, I shall change the face of the nation -Vision of Tomorrow Late Dewang Mehta

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FS permissions for CGI files
by Satya 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Here's the situation: I have a Perl CGI script which references a file. The second file contains a password. The password is required to access the database which is used by the CGI application I'm writing. Now the Perl CGI file definitely has to be readable and executable by the webserver. What about the file with the password? It should also be readable by the webserver daemon. Problem is that anyone else whose scripts run on the same server can simply cat the file using their own CGI scripts and se ethe passwords etc. So how is this fixed? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Cap'n! Cap'n! the UART's will'nae take the speed!

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