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Donald Knuth on open source
by saurabh daptardar 12 May '08

12 May '08

Hi, I came across an interesting interview of Prof. Donald Knuth where he talks about open source ( and other things) http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1193856 Regards, Sourabh Daptardar P.S: Ubuntu camp should be happy should be happy to know that he uses Ubuntu ;) -- "Reality is, after all , too big for our frail understanding to fully comprehend. Nevertheless, we have to build our life on the theory which contains the maximum truth.We cannot sit still because we cannot, or do not , know the Absolute Truth." -- Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose ( An Indian Pilgrim )

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Internet n/w in Etch GUI
by Rony 09 May '08

09 May '08

Hello Everyone, Recently I had downloaded the 3 DVD Debian Etch set, the updates DVD and after checking that md5 was the same, I burned them into DVDs. At a client's place when I installed Etch from them, everything went smoothly. However Firefox (Ice Weasel) does not open any sites. The net is the Triband ADSL modem and in the gnome-terminal as well as konsole, dig, ping as well as ftp download works. Since there was some distraction towards other machines, I did not get to try out the Ubuntu live CDs. The only peculiar thing about the setup is that the ADSL modem (old D-Link) is connected to this machine by ethernet and another windows machine uses the usb interface. A network card in that doze machine then passes on the shared usb connection to the rest of the networked machines. Before installing Debian, the target machine ran xp and net was being normally used though both ethernet and usb have the same 192.168.1.1 ip. The usb machine was shut down too to see if the same IP was the culprit. Even now with Etch, the net works only in terminals. Is this some bug with Etch 3 DVD ISOs? Has anyone encountered such problems with Etch? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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SVN problem
by Subhodip Biswas 08 May '08

08 May '08

Hi ! When i am trying to access svn over http i get this : [subhodip@home-server ~]$ svn co http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk JOSM svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/!svn/vcc/default' svn: REPORT of '/svn/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://josm.openstreetmap.de) While when i am doing this : [subhodip@home-server ~]$ svn co svn://svn.mapnik.org/trunk mapnik Checked out revision 697. Why is this so ? what I am missing out here ? -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas

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FSF India Delegation Meets the Union Minister for IT
by Rony 08 May '08

08 May '08

Hello All, I found this information about a meeting between FSF India and the Union IT minister in Oct 2007. http://www.gnu.org.in/node/130 Has the Govt. made any progress in implementing the points raised in the petition? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Fwd: [gpl-violations.org] Court hearing about GPL case of Welte vs. Skype
by Kartik Mistry 07 May '08

07 May '08

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Python Seminar Part 1 Sunday 11th May 2008
by Prashant Shah 06 May '08

06 May '08

More details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ -- http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ elite.mumbai(a)gmail.com

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how to install from pendrive....
by mukesh yadav 05 May '08

05 May '08

hi.. at last meet we install the ubuntu from the pendrive in EEEPC...... I just wanted to know how do i prepare a pendrive so that i can install from a pen drive.. than you

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Issue using GTK based Application in KDE
by Neelesh Gurjar 05 May '08

05 May '08

Neelesh Gurjar <neel.hjs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I am using Fedora 8 with KDE 3.5 and using Tally 7.2 for Linux on this >> machine. Tally is GTK based application. When I run this application in KDE, >> some of the shortcut keys dont work however when I run it in GNOME those >> shortcut keys work properly. Tally has shortcut keys like "Alt+F12" >> "Alt+F11" etc. >> >> So how can I get this done in KDE ? Abhishek Amberkar wrote: >ALT+F12 is already registered as a shortcut key in KDE. >IF you are not using that shortcut, then go to KDE Control Center >and disable it. > This might help. I tried this also. I disabled Alt+f12 in Kde Control Center. Still no luck. :( Thanks NeeleshG

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How to View Session Details? -- Sify Broadband
by Amit Joshi 04 May '08

04 May '08

Hi, I am using Sify Broadband on Ubuntu. I have a package with a download limit and so I need to check the session details. I am using antidialer to login, but I don't see how I can view my session details. I tried to search on google and came up with the following link, but unfortunately it is not working here. http://broadbandforum.in/sify-broadband/823-need-info-session-details-page-… I have no idea what my SAM server is supposed to be, but after looking into my antidialerrc file I found out that 202.144.65.70 works but not in the way the above link describes. Please help. Regards, Amit. -- http://mckagan.googlepages.com

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Free Software in India - Cover story by Down To Earth Magazine
by Praveen A 04 May '08

04 May '08

As 13-year-old Nalin Sathya, who will sit for these exams next year, puts it, "The system is very easy to use and I can now use it even without seeing the monitor. Python programming language is very easy. I am trying to learn it." Sathya's confidence emerges from a series of events that began eight years ago. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Issue using GTK based Application in KDE
by Neelesh Gurjar 04 May '08

04 May '08

Hi, I am using Fedora 8 with KDE 3.5 and using Tally 7.2 for Linux on this machine. Tally is GTK based application. When I run this application in KDE, some of the shortcut keys dont work however when I run it in GNOME those shortcut keys work properly. Tally has shortcut keys like "Alt+F12" "Alt+F11" etc. So how can I get this done in KDE ? Please help -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Fwd: Please participate and advertise
by Anurag 02 May '08

02 May '08

The SELF poster originally attached with this mail is available at: http://selfproject.eu/en/system/files/theODC_poster.pdf Anurag ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ms. Meena Kharatmal <meena(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> Date: 2008/5/1 Subject: Please participate and advertise To: Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org> Hello, SELF Project http://selfproject.eu aims for collaborative sharing and creation of open educational materials developed using the SELF Platform http://beta.selfplatform.eu. In July 2006, SELF Project is organizing an international conference on "Free Knowledge, Free Technology" in Barcelona, Spain http://fkft.eu. We are also announcing an Open Documentary Contest http://selfproject.eu/contest. The shorts will be screened and awareded during the FKFT conference in Spain. We would like to take this opportunity to announce the Open Documentary Contest for your participation. Please follow the website for further details. You may download the ODC Poster at http://selfproject.eu/en/poster We would appreciate if you circulate this contest into your network. Participation is open and the last date is May 31, 2008. Thankyou. Best Regards. Meena. -- .................................................................... Meena Kharatmal Blogpage --> http://okeanos.wordpress.com Homepage --> http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/~meena Wikipedia ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refined_concept_map .................................................................... -- http://web.gnuer.org/

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VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block (253, 0)
by Agnello George 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hi I am trying to install Cent OS 5 on a freshly formatted HDD. When boot my system frm the CD rom i get e following error "crc error VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block (253,0) plese append a correct "root=" boot optiion kernel panic -not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknow-block (253,0) " never faced such a issue before if can one can help , would be really grateful Thanks -- Regards Agnello Dsouza

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Network and Sound not working
by Cyril Chacko 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Dear all, Has anyone configured Debian Linux on Campaq Presario F733AU Laptop. I have installed Debian on the Laptop. The Ethernet card is not detected during the install. And after install, none of the devices worked properly. Going through the net I managed to find out how to get the display going. I had to use the Vesa driver instead of nv from Xorg. However I am not able to find anything to tell me what to do about my other devices. I am adding my lspci output to this mail. Thanks for all the help Regards Cyril chacko -- Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Make sure they are on you.

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strftime for javascript
by Philip Tellis 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

They say that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks, so this dog has been up to some old tricks. A couple of days ago I released strftime[1] for javascript with partial support for all of PHP's strftime[2] format specifiers, and today I released version 1.2 with full support and the ability to localise it. Get it via freshmeat here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/strftime-js/ (if you want the tarballs) or directly here: http://hacks.bluesmoon.info/strftime/ (if you only want the source and docs). The code is BSD licensed. Some more info: - The opengroup specification for strftime has 33 format specifiers and 19 modified format specifiers - PHP's strftime has the 33 basic format specifiers and adds 3 more - This javascript implementation supports the entire PHP set, and does not support the 19 modified format specifiers - The code supports locale specific representations through a locale extension mechanism which is well documented [3] There are bound to be bugs, so send them my way any way you see fit. The project is also hosted on google code, but I'm not too happy with the interface and am considering moving it to sourceforge mainly for svn and issue tracking. If you have strong opinions one way or the other, let me know. Anyway, for now, play with it, let me know about bugs, if you want to write a localised module for a particular language, feel free to do so and send it in. Philip [1] - http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/strftime.html [2] - http://php.net/strftime [3] - http://hacks.bluesmoon.info/strftime/localisation.html -- hello world

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PHP Seminar Part 2 - Sunday 4th May
by Prashant Shah 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ elite.mumbai(a)gmail.com

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Indian students in SoC
by Praveen A 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Hi, We know about 7 students from India who got selected for SoC this time. http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SoC/2008 If you know of any student from India not listed there please update. Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Subversion 1.5.x first public RC
by Senthil Kumaran S 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

Hi, The long awaited release of subversion "with merge-tracking" has been ready with its first public release candidate. You can find the official announcement here http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2008-04/1120.shtml In another 6 to 8 weeks we are expecting a GA :) This release includes a lot of feature additions (http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.5_releasenotes.html) to subversion. Try it and report bugs if any, that will help the community :) If you want to know how to use subversion with all those bells and whistles check out http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Why Schools Must Embrace ODF and FOSS
by Venkatesh Hariharan 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

> > My choice would be that the Govt. makes it mandatory for all hardware > donations to be independent of riders on software that can be installed on > them. Legal experts could site some clause about not allowing MRTP in > education. Last time we met, Nagarjuna had mentioned about school syllabus > having to be independent of brand identities. Then let the donors (anyone) > decide whether they can operate under this rule or want to back out. That > will also help the public get a better understanding of the benefactors. As > an organization, FSF India could prod the Govt. into making this rule. We > can write a letter with all our signatures and send it to the PM and other > Ministries. We could all meet at HBCSE to sign this letter. Better still would be an online petition. http://www.ipetitions.com www.petitiononline.com I will follow up on this since I am now based in Delhi. Venky

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Why Schools Must Embrace ODF and FOSS
by Praveen A 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Schools are being prevented from enjoying a revolution in software provision, and self-sufficiency is being halted by the promotion of dependency, said Ian Lynch, spokesman for the Open Schools Alliance. "Innovation starts with teachers and pupils, but under BSF the school's IT strategy is taken out of its hands," he said. see more news at how Microsoft is trying to lock students at an early stage http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/19/school-odf-koffice-nlnet/ We (those us us from Kerala) can be proud that we did not let our children to suffer, but be watchful, they are trying hard. See how Microsoft's playmate Infosys is selling our children and our countries future. http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/5187fd263da0e0… -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Interview with Debian Devleoper from IITM Varun Hiremath
by Praveen A 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Which project do you currently contribute to? I am a Debian Developer and I am currently maintaining about 135 packages in Debian. This is my Debian QA page where you will find the list of packages I am currently maintaining in Debian: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=Varun+Hiremath Apart from Debian I have been contributing to many open source projects: 1) I am author of open source project python-gastables: python modules for compressible gas flow calculations: Homepage: code.google.com/p/python-gastables 2) I am also author of Krickscore - KDE applet for cricket scores. http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/KDE/krickscore-25612.sht… Homepage: http://varun.travisbsd.org/krickscore.php 3) I have been contributing to Jajuk - Advanced Juke box project, where I am working as a Developer and Debian package maintainer. Homepage: http://jajuk.info/index.php/Main_Page 4) I am also currently maintaing pidgin-festival ( formerly knows as festival-gaim). I rewrote festival-gaim to make it work with the new pidgin API. Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-festival/ How does it feels to have two DDs from neighbouring rooms? (Kumar Appaiah stays next to my room) It is a big advantage having him next door because we get to learn a lot from each other. Usually there is a lot of activity going on in Debian, and it becomes very difficult to keep track of things; having another DD next door really helps a lot to catch up with action. Read More about Varun at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Varun_Hiremath Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Propagating Digital Democracy
by Rony 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hello All, This Olympic season has witnessed a lot of supporters of freedom and the media too is going out of its way to provide news reports on how activists all over the world are protesting against dictators and autocratic regimes. Even on normal days the people as well as the media have become pro-active in exposing those who abuse their power and position, whether it is the powerful Nations, politicians or Government officials. All this is happening because there is full awareness about Freedom and Democracy. There are now aware of their rights, so they protest whenever anyone abuses power. However in the digital world there is a near complete lack of awareness of Digital Democracy and Freedom. The main reason I believe for this is that we look at the digital world as simply a collection of electronic gadgets that help us do our daily work. We forget that the Digital World is nothing but an extension of the real world. Computers are no longer the simple devices that did specific jobs for us. They are a complete Digital Ecosystem that is fully integrated into our personal and professional space. Therefore anything that affects our Digital Freedom affects our individual freedom too. A software manufacturer for our digital environment is no different from a regular manufacturer who produces materials or finished products for our homes and offices. When we setup a home or an office, a lot of people are involved like carpenter, mason, plumber, painter, electrician etc. They provide us with the finished infrastructure we need to run our homes and offices. After their job is done and we start using the finished rooms, do we hand over an extra set of keys to each one of them so that they can walk into our rooms as and when they feel so and rummage through our things? We zealously guard our living space. What about our digital space? Why should a software manufacturer have to constantly access our Digital space under the pretext of providing security and upgrades when he should have provided a secure Digital product through its manufacture itself. How many of us realize that when a giant software manufacturer of one country has this access to our Digital space in most of the world's computers, including those used by Governments of all Nations, it has direct access to sensitive data and records of all those Nations. In our living world, we buy and use products that can be re-filled, re-cycled and can be serviced by more than one vendor as this makes our life easy and we are not dependent on one entity who may demand whatever price it wants to. We also look for continuity of use for those products over the years instead of simply paying high amounts every time and using them for short periods. Do we have the same awareness in the Digital World? Why are we content with paying large amounts of money for software to run our digital products and keep shelling out more and more every year for upgrades? Are we aware that digital products like computers can be run on software that is not expensive, restrictive and has a very long life span? That is Freedom software or Libre software. This is software that anyone can analyze, modify and use on their digital products with full freedom without the constant fear of it getting obsolete or our data becoming un-readable. In the real world if we guard our freedom to buy and use any product anyway we want without any monopolistic control or restrictions from the manufacturer then in the Digital world, why are we ignorant of our right to software Freedom and Digital Democracy? In the real world, if anyone powerfull and influential tries to flex his muscles and mow others down, there is an immediate public and media outcry against it. However in the Digital world why are we simply ignorant of our Digital Freedom and Democratic rights and let the Software super-powers simply bulldoze any initiative for Software Freedom? Knowledge creates awareness and awareness brings Freedom. Just as Democracy and Freedom are most important to mankind in the real world, so is Digital Democracy and Freedom, especially in this Digital era where knowledge is now digitized and should be freely accessible to everyone. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Kumar Appaiah: 5th Debian Developer from India
by Praveen A 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Kumar Appaiah (ILUGC Member and Final year Dual degree student, EEE Dept, IIT-Madras) is the 5th Debian Developer from India. Other 4 from India are Ganesan Rajagopal, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan in Bangalore. Kapil Hari Paranjape in Institute of Mathematical Sciences Taramani. Varun Hiremath, student of Aerospace Engg. at IIT Madras. Congratulations Kumar. It is a great boost for the Debian community in India. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] google groups without membership: was a list discussing the ICT policy for education
by Nagarjuna G. 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Raj Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org> wrote: > On Saturday 19 Apr 2008, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > Those of you who would like to take active role in shaping the ICT > > policy of India, please join this group and voice your opinions. > > This group has members from various organizations, and not > > necessarily from free software community. > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/ict-education-india > > Why Google? It won't let me join the group unless I have a Google > account, and it won't let non-Google-members view archives, etc. > > I presume increasing Google's market worth isn't one of the objectives > of this discussion forum. > I do not realize till this time that it is not possible to subscribe unless you have a google account. the owner of the group subscribed my gnowlede.org account, so i could not realize and never visited the site nor the archives. Can a person with google account invite a non-member? or does this also make the non-member a member if the invited accepts? Nagarjuna

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a list discussing the ICT policy for education
by Nagarjuna G. 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Those of you who would like to take active role in shaping the ICT policy of India, please join this group and voice your opinions. This group has members from various organizations, and not necessarily from free software community. http://groups.google.com/group/ict-education-india -- Nagarjuna G.

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