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PPPOE related issues
by Devranjan Das 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

Hi I use PPPOE (default implementation that came with Ubuntu 7.04) to connect to my ISP. Everything was fine for last two years. But from last three days, I am not able use Internet. I tried using Windows where everything works fine with the same settings. On "ifconfig -a", it shows the ppp adapter. But when I enter the URL in the browser it says "looking for google.co.in". I am not able to ping the DNS server. I think that its not getting DNS response. When I run the pppoe configuration utility, it fetches the DNS server address from the ISP. My friend who uses the same ISP has also reported the same problem with Ubuntu 7.04. Can anybody help. -- Dev Ranjan Das Scientific Officer 'C' Laser and Plasma Technology Division Bhabha Atomic Research Centre Trombay, Mumbai - 400085 Phone: Office: 022-25595697 e-mail: devranjandas(a)gmail.com 513,Nilgiri, Anushaktinagar, Mumbai- 400094, Phone: 022-25572003 http://vision-2020.blogspot.com

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[Cross Posting] How the corrupt ones manipulate things
by Sudhir Gandotra 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

It is clear that they have manipulated and won an important round. Now, the only way is to make some Government/s appeal in the matter within 60 days, otherwise, the corrupt one wins this game. It may be worth trying an effort (in the form of a strong-focused campaign) wherein Linux users come together (virtually, to begin with) and educate various Governments. It will be a worthy cause to make this effort and also we test the strength of the community (with a view to improve it further as a result of this test). We need our world to be ours and we need to take it away from the corrupt ones. Shall we begin? ==================================================== Microsoft wins battle for OOXML approval http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39378350,00.htm The International Organization for Standardization has officially approved Microsoft's OOXML specification as a standard. The news confirms documents leaked on Tuesday were genuine. Three-quarters of the "Principal Countries" involved in the vote gave their approval (at least two-thirds were needed) and just 14 percent of participating members of ISO and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) disapproved (under a quarter was needed). According to ISO's Wednesday statement: "Subject to there being no formal appeals from ISO/IEC national bodies in the next two months, the International Standard will accordingly proceed to publication." Although there have been allegations of voting irregularities within some of the national standards bodies that in turn participated in the ISO vote, no national body has yet made a formal appeal to ISO. One prominent example had been an objection from Steve Pepper, the chairman of Standard Norge's joint technical committee, which he faxed directly to the ISO. In the letter, he claimed that 80 percent of the committee had been against the OOXML standard being passed — Norway officially recorded a vote of approval. However, a spokesperson for Standard Norge told ZDNet.co.uk on Wednesday that the organisation had not made a formal appeal to ISO, and did not intend to do so. "One of the committee members sent a fax to ISO about this matter, but he did that directly and not through us," the spokesperson said. A spokesperson for ISO confirmed on Wednesday that it had not yet received any formal objections to the OOXML voting process, and refused to comment on the reports of voting irregularities within national bodies. --- With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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and now is the time for hero worship
by Kenneth Gonsalves 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/default.mspx -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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Intro...
by Anshul Khandelwal 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hey there! I am new to this list, group and city so I thought I did just pop in and say hi! I am a slackware user... and I have been one since quite some time. I was looking through the website and either it hasn't been updated or this group hasn't met for quite some time or I missed something obvious. :) Is there a meeting planned anytime soon? Cheers, Anshul -- Anshul Khandelwal, Informm, Valuepitch, Bombay. www.informm.in http://valuepitch.com Home Page/openid: http://anshul.baboonlogic.com/ Blog: http://baboonlogic.com -- अंशुल खंडेलवाल

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Mention of Manoj Srivastav in `fortune'
by Mohan Nayaka 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hi, Just saw this when I ran `fortune': frodo@laptop-zion:~$ fortune Techical solutions are not a matter of voting. Two legislations in the US states almost decided that the value of Pi be 3.14, exactly. Popular vote does not make for a correct solution. -- Manoj Srivastava Regards, Mohan S N -- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. -- Gandalf the Grey [J.R.R. Tolkien, "Lord of the Rings"]

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PHP Seminar on 6th April 2008
by Prashant Shah 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

More Details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com Please email me to confirm your registration.

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MS PR at work? --> Re: How the corrupt ones manipulate things
by Ravindra Jaju 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Rediff had a _very_ short-lived front-page news item on ISO approval of OOXML. It immediately started attracting anti-OOXML comments, and they promptly relegated it to their backside... (no pun intended) (Devil's advocate) - MS PR managers at work? http://in.rediff.com/money/2008/apr/03ms.htm Given the quality of rediff news items, and those of comments on them, it's hard to convince oneself that moving this important news item away had nothing more to it. -- jaju

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How can I put the Source RPM file in installation disk of Fedora?
by Debarshi Ray 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

> Soruce RPM installed content into /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS directory. I want to > change that to /root's home directory, can I do that ? if yes then how can > i do that? One way to do that is to set custom values for %_topdir, %_sourcedir, %_specdir, %_srcrpmdir, %_builddir, and %_rpmdir in your ~/.rpmmacros file. eg., I use the following line: %_topdir /home/rishi/devel/redhat Ref: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-rpm2/ Cheers, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe

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How the corrupt ones manipulate things
by Venkatesh Hariharan 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:09:07 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Cross Posting] How the corrupt ones manipulate > things - are we going to allow them to win ? Should we just keep quiet or > begin a global protest ? > On Saturday 29 March 2008 10:53 am, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > > > The statement goes on to say that Danish Standards is changing its > > vote because "the 168 Danish comments have been adopted as changes > > to ISO/IEC DIS 29500 OOXML". > > What they did not tell you is that abstain = yes. And that email votes > count. Only that many of the abstainers never recieved any intimation > stating that abstain = yes. > > So in the bizzare M$ universe no with comments become yes, if the ecma > makes a comment - any comment - on your comment and abstain = yes and > you can change a no to yes BUT you turncoats cant change a yes to no. > > Get it. NO? aha that's what happens if you dont use M$. > The standard operating process of Microsoft has been: a) Stuff the committee with supporters (as happened in Pakistan and other countries) b) If that doesn't work and the committee says NO to OOXML then c) Complain to the ministries under which the committee works, threaten to withdraw investment, get proxies to file complaints etc. In India, I hear that they raised the issue with the Prime Minister's Office and the PM called for a meeting on this issue on Thursday. Apparently, the head of one of the software export houses (a VERY respected person) also sent a fax supporting OOXML *after* the committee had given its decision, trying to overturn India's NO vote. Someone should ask whether these companies represent India's interests on the BIS committee or are they protecting their dollar revenues? Venky

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How can I put the Source RPM file in installation disk of Fedora?
by Neelesh Gurjar 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

I have created Source RPM file and I want to put that in Fedora Installation Disk so that when I install Fedora it will install that file. How can I put that into installation disk of Fedora? Soruce RPM installed content into /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS directory. I want to change that to /root's home directory, can I do that ? if yes then how can i do that? -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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[Cross Post] Are you a Debian user?
by Kartik Mistry 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi, Please give your feedback as a Debian user after reading this mail, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/03/msg02475.html Thanks! -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Blogs: {ftbfs,kartikm}.wordpress.com

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Issue in RHEL Clustering in Failover Domain
by Neelesh Gurjar 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, I have setup Redhat cluster and Failover Domains. 1. How can I setup Apache as a Failover service ? 2. In that do I have to create one unique Virtual IP on both servers and share that IP as resource ? or Redhat Cluster suit will create that IP virtually ? So from outside that IP will get http request. -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Testing
by Rony 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hello Hello Hello Mike Testing 1 2 3 4 5 Hello Hello. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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[Cross Posting] How the corrupt ones manipulate things - are we going to allow them to win ? Should we just keep quiet or begin a global protest ?
by Sudhir Gandotra 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39375179,00.htm Denmark changes OOXML vote to 'yes' Denmark has decided to back Microsoft's Office Open XML document format, reversing its previous disapproval and bringing the format closer to fast-track approval by the International Organization for Standardization. According to a Friday statement on the website of Danish Standards (the Danish equivalent of the British Standards Institution, or BSI), the country's previous vote of "disapproval with comments" on the original draft of the OOXML standard has now been changed to a vote of "approval". The statement goes on to say that Danish Standards is changing its vote because "the 168 Danish comments have been adopted as changes to ISO/IEC DIS 29500 OOXML". Denmark's change of vote enables OOXML to pass one of two criteria to becoming a standard — that fewer than 25 percent of the large group of bodies "observing" the process disapprove. However, OOXML is still three short of the positive votes required amongst the 32 standards bodies "participating" in the process. Some of these are wavering, however. It is known that the technical committee advising Britain's BSI has changed its recommendation, meaning Britain may also change its vote from "no" to "yes". However, BSI has refused to say whether its policy group will adopt a "yes" position, until after the deadline of midnight on Saturday. --- With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017, India Phone : +91-11-26014670, 71, 72. Fax : +91-11-26014672 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Affordable Business Desktop @ Just Rs. 500/- : http://kalculate.com/piracy.php http://www.openlx.com/openlx.html - FOSS award 2008 winner Linux from India http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/24867/news.htm http://openlx.com/features.html - OpenLX Linux features You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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ldconfig: Cannot lstat .....libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0: Permission denied
by Agnello George 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

I am tring to install LAMP on fedora core 7 i have installed mysql ( mysql-5.0.45 ) ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql --localstatedir=/usr/local/mysql/data --disable-maintainer-mode --with-mysqld-user=mysql --enable-large-files-without-debug make && make install and every thing went fine inorder to tell the system where ro find the dynamic libraries i added echo "/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql" >> /etc/ld.so.conf when i ran the following command it gave me the this error # ldconfig [root@v3 bin]# ldconfig -v ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15: Permission denied/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql: ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so: Permission denied ldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0: Permission denied the permission in this direcory is as follows : [root@v3 bin]# ll /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/ total 2384 -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 12376 2008-03-29 20:18 libdbug.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 48896 2008-03-29 20:18 libheap.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 369964 2008-03-29 20:18 libmyisam.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 27578 2008-03-29 20:18 libmyisammrg.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 641264 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mysql 875 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.so -> libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.so.15 -> libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mysql 530840 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 289666 2008-03-29 20:18 libmystrings.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 315422 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysys.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 7582 2008-03-29 20:18 libvio.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 89036 2008-03-29 20:18 libz.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mysql 761 2008-03-29 20:18 libz.la can some one help me out why i am getting this Premission denied error Thanks a million!! -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards
by Debarshi Ray 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

>> We work around it but is the BIOS not the culprit in such cases? I am >> not saying that GNU won't load on these machines. > GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines. Cheerio, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

How have the other countries', equivalent BIS organization, voted? -- Arun Khan

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Multimedia and Bluetooth in Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy)
by Rony Bill 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hello All, Till Kubuntu 7.04, multimedia support for audio and video was added post installation by simply installing the package 'libxine-extracodecs' and 'libdvdcss'. Now in Kubuntu 7.10 gutsy, the package libxine-extracodecs is no longer present. The website https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/RC/Kubuntumentions a package called 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' to be installed for multimedia support. I had already installed 'libdvdcss' and 'w32codecs' but Kaffeine would not play avi and mp4 files. VLC player was playing these files but I could not control brightness and contrast in VLC. After installing the package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' via apt, I am able to play these files in Kaffeine too. For bluetooth in Kubuntu 7.10, nothing has to be installed. simply run 'sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start' and it will start the service and place the bluetooth icon in the system tray. The bluetooth adapter was the 'Enter' one which I had bought recently. I tried a nokia N82 phone. I double-clicked on the bluetooth icon in the taskbar and Konqueror opened up with an icon of a wired telephone handset and n82 as its label. To enter this I had to set a password in the mobile and in the popup window on computer. Then on clicking 'OBEX File Transfer' I got 2 folders C and E. C was the mobile's memory and E was the external 2 GB memory. Every time I tried to enter a folder, the phone would ask whether to accept the connection or not. To eliminate that, the computer was 'authorised' in the phone's settings. Connection speed is 45 to 50 Kbytes/sec only but this may be a limitation of the phone's hardware. I haven't tried it in windows. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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should I use ubuntu 64 bit with a t5500 core2 intel processor?
by krishnakant Mane 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

hello, this is not really directly related to accessibility but perhaps may be a problem as such. I have a machine with intel core2 duo (sentrino ) t5500 processor with 1.6 ghz/2 specification. is this a genuan 64 bit processor? should I use ubuntu 64 bit with all t5500 core2 processors for optimul performance?

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FLOSS in schools... a syllabi for the Third Standard (eight/nine-year-old) student from India
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Free software in schools. Download this from here http://www.divshare.com/download/4053521-61e >From Farida Umrani <mailtofarida(a)gmail.com> I am working with Prof. Sridhar Iyer at Dept of Computer Science, IIT Bombay on content development for school computer science based on Edubuntu . We will have the content for elementary class ready in 2008. I am sending you a draft of a textbook for class I (the file is bulky; hence split and send in two mails). [DOWNLOAD FROM URL ABOVE] At present, I am implementing this curriculum in one of the pilot schools. We have included Scratch as a programming language for students in Grade 3 & 4. Currently we are focusing on elementary classes and plan to scale it up in the next academic year. We are facing difficulties in getting the teachers familiar with open source. Most schools do not have a system administrator or even a regular Internet connection to get the regular updates and prefer an installable CD that gives them everything. But to a windows user, this does not appear intuitive and hence they are put off by it. I wanted to know about your experience with Goa schools? I have read that GCSP trained engineering students and teachers. Did these students help the local schools? We announced a training program for school teachers, but got poor response and therefore deferred it. Did you face similar problems? How did you deal with them? I myself have a Psychology background... and it has taken me several hours of work and reading up the forums to understand the installation and getting all the dependencies right. However, what is encouraging is that students have received the open source applications very well. I hope to learn from your experience at Goa. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Ym/Gmailtalk: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | fred(a)bytesforall.org Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9970157402 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

> Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:07 +0530 > From: "Nishit Dave" <stargazer.dave(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:11 PM, krishnakant Mane > <researchbase(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > I went through the editorial. > > one more point which struck me was that it creates an impression > > that this is a "proxy for product war " > > which means all those who supported odf also had some selfish > > marketing gains. > > here we should note that people like Dr. Nagarjun have helped this > > cause due to no "marketing of product " aim. > > secondly the tone of the editorial also talks about the licensing > > cost issue and has not really emphasised on the "freedom aspect " > > which implies freedom to encript and decript the data by any one > > who wishes to do so. > > it uses words like "negociations for license costs ", correct me if > > I am remembering wrong but although my quoting might not be word to > > word correct, the tone of the article is towards saying that odf is > > for those who care about the cost of licensing and it talks nothing > > much about freedom. > > Yes, I forgot to mention that. One more reason to believe they are > reading out of Microsoft's PR briefs. Can we work upon drafting a > letter to the editor as the GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai? Please take the lead. IMO, the commentaries here are good **but** the Business Standard (BS) editors and readership do *not see* them unless it is posted on the BS site. Pls. register and post your comments there. The more the better. -- Arun Khan

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BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Nagarjuna G. 25 Mar '08

25 Mar '08

India's BIS votes against ooxml. out of 19 members, five of them did not attend the meeting, one of them abstained, five voted in favor of ooxml, and the rest voted against. -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

On Wednesday 19 Mar 2008, linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:25:36 +0530 > From: "Dinesh Joshi" <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Rony <gnulinuxist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > If anyone of you is planning to buy a system or a new motherboard > > then avoid Intel original ones like plague. They take more than a > > month to simply pick up boards in warranty and their communication > > channels are pathetic. My colleagues and I have some warranty > > boards lying with us for more than a month and they have yet to be > > picked up by Intel. Their service is too bad. > > Well, atleast Intel has a service. For GNU/Linux users, AMD Boards > should be ideally avoided like plague ;) Anyway, must be a temporary > thing. It wasn't that bad about a year ago... Any particular brand mobos for the AMD cpus? The OP identified Intel manufactured mobos, not all manufacturers of mobos for the Intel family. -- Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

> Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:58:17 +0530 > From: "Ravindra Jaju" <ravindra.jaju(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml .... snip ... > If someone drafts a letter to BS (wow! it indeed did write BS, no?), > please post here and count me as one of the supporters when you send! > I have posted my comment on the site <http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?tab=r&autono=31779…> Unless you send in *your own comments* directly to BS no one there will know about your views on their editorial. -- Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

> Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:06:49 +0530 > From: "Nishit Dave" <stargazer.dave(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml ... snip ... > > The editorial in Business Standard today again seems to speak from > Microsoft's point of view, and calls OOXML an already existing > standard!! As an interested group, we should write to them (and > other newspapers) and strongly represent our point of view. > > Any takers? Such declarations in an editorial column is unprofessional. Pls. give link to the online version (if possible) and the email address "letter to the editor", and let's all write to editor. -- Arun Khan

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