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MTNL broadband
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

I had one of my clients install MTNL ADSL broadband 256kbps. It has been up for about 2 months. So far it is working very well and has had almost zero outages. It has worked far far better than i had expected and beats any of the private isps. The bandwidth varies between 220 and 224kbps. With occasional drops to 216kbps. The dns is sloow but not a problem with a local caching dns.The MTNL engineers were very enthusiastic and spent several hours learning how to set up the dlink adsl modem.Apparently dlink / mtnl dont train their people. Any one with any more experiences before we can recommend it to all. rgds jtd

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re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband
by Arun K. Khan 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

> From: sherlock(a)vsnl.com > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:17:20 +0500 > I had one of my clients install MTNL ADSL broadband 256kbps. > It has been up for about 2 months. So far it is working very well > and has had almost zero outages. It has worked far far better > than i had expected and beats any of the private isps. > The bandwidth varies between 220 and 224kbps. With occasional > drops to 216kbps. The dns is sloow but not a problem with a local > caching dns.The MTNL engineers were very enthusiastic and spent > several hours learning how to set up the dlink adsl modem.Apparently > dlink / mtnl dont train their people. > Any one with any more experiences before we can recommend it to all. I have MTNL TriBand out of their Khar(W) xchg. As you said it is good when it works but I have experienced a few outages and was not able to get thru to their support. On the positive side, during the aftermath of 26/7, my ADSL service was unaffected though my landline on the same wire pair was OOS for 7 days. If your clients can live with some outages then I guess it is a cost effective solution. If you have the luxury of a Linux server, then use bind, dhcpd on it rather than on the DSL modem. As for support, I got to know the linesman responsible for the neighborhood. Thru his chain of command I am able to get some support. I have found the engineers at Khar are quite knowledgeable about IP networks and were helpful. Regarding the 502T modem, I ran into a couple of weird behaviors: 1. Need MSIE to program port forwarding rules! I cannot not program any port forwarding rule using Firefox (Linux and Windoze) or Konqueror. 2. When the config pages are accessed with Firefox, some of the icons on the various pages do not load; over a period of 10-12 days it's DNS relay would stop working and withing 2-3 days thereafter it would stop working completely. Only a hard reset of the unit would bring back it's functionality. DLink was not able to resolve the issues over the phone. Finally, I took the unit to DLink Tech. support center @ Malad West. The tech. support came back and said nothing was wrong with my unit, that she was able to program a whole bunch of port forwarding rules. When I asked her what browser did she use - the answer was MSIE! I brought it back and using MSIE I found that the config pages play much better with MSIE than Firefox - wierd. Anyone else experienced similar behavior with DLink 502t? -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Thermal pad / grease...
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

On Sunday 21 August 2005 21:00, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > On Saturday 20 August 2005 15:37, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > How do u know it's the processor. After all u can't touch it. It > > should actually be the fan and the dust on the heat sink. Unless > > u have removed the heatsink a couple of times. > > The motherboard, CPU, and RAM is brand new. So no dust issues. I > touched the heat sink to confirm the temperatures were indeed high. So the heat sink is not disspating heat. If it was working well earlier It means the fan has slowed down. Or U are overclocking If not u need better heatsink / faster airflow / lower ambient. Put a fan in the box. > So the temperature sensor is not malfunctioning. The vendor had to > remove the heatsink a couple of time when he switched the board. > The first one I had gotten was a dead one... Thermal grease will reduce thermal resisitance between the processor and the heatsink. This will raise the temp of the heatsink and lower the die temp by a few percent points. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

----- Original Message ----- From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> Date: Sunday, August 21, 2005 0:18 am Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband > On Saturday 20 August 2005 13:01, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > did you think that he was doing it on windozE? > > yep. But that was solely because he mentioned he was doing it for > his "clients".... The client uses windows and dos. And my stuff is on the periphery. Ever since linux as got in (facing stiff resistance from the consultants) life as become easier for them - they can now breathe for a few seconds before some winbox crashes.Compare this with my systems not being rebooted for over 9 months. The client is now thinking aloud and arguing with himself on the need for M$ shit. The consultant had a loong (mostly me giving him figures on his contribution to HM BG coronation to god hood) talk about switching. At the end he shrugged sadly and said he had wasted 10 yrs of his life. Hmm.. do i look younger now a days? rgds jtd > > -- > Dinesh A. Joshi > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Harddisk for my Debian router...
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

On Sunday 21 August 2005 21:16, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > Hi people, > > Remember my harddisk problem? Well, the drive finally died > yesterday. My router is currently down and that is creating a lot > of problems for me. I need a second hand harddisk - > 1G/2G/4G/6G/10G....anything will do. I will be paying out of my > pocket money so if you're price is too high then I may not be able > to afford it. I am willing to pay a max of 900 bucks for a decent 6 > or 10G seagate harddisk without badsectors. Please contact me off > list with your price. Pennywise pound foolish. U are throwing good money after bad. Get a new disk it will last for 3 to 4 yrs at least, running linux. With a 2nd hand u are risking failure within 6 months, particularly as u are running 24/7. rgds jtd > > Thanks, > -- > Dinesh A. Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

----- Original Message ----- From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> Date: Sunday, August 21, 2005 0:06 am Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband > On Saturday 20 August 2005 12:39, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > > Am i crazy to use winblows??. > > How stupid of me to assume that ... :P > > > Actually the setup is very simple if u have used linux. The modem > > connects to your box nic with a straight cable. It has a default > > ip of 192.168.1.1. You fire up your browser and connect to this ip. > > You can change the ip to something else, configure static ips, dhcp, > > some basic firewalling etc. U can also telnet into the modem. U can > > reflash the modem with the latest kernel, busybox and anything alse > > that u want flash size permitting. > > Yeah, I have used Linux and continue to do so happily :P Thats why > I am on this mailing list :). Ha ha. I meant if one uses linux, as the mtnl guys had never used linux > I know the procedure. But actually doing it is very different than > reading about it. I think not. But i will call u for the next install. >BTW I heard these modems had a lot of heat problems and would stop > working (or reboot) after a while... is that true?? No. None at all. But the modem is well ventilated, and the psu is outside. rgd jtd

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Harddisk for my Debian router...
by Dinesh Joshi 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

Hi people, Remember my harddisk problem? Well, the drive finally died yesterday. My router is currently down and that is creating a lot of problems for me. I need a second hand harddisk - 1G/2G/4G/6G/10G....anything will do. I will be paying out of my pocket money so if you're price is too high then I may not be able to afford it. I am willing to pay a max of 900 bucks for a decent 6 or 10G seagate harddisk without badsectors. Please contact me off list with your price. Thanks, -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Thermal pad / grease...
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

----- Original Message ----- From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> Date: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:53 am Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Thermal pad / grease... > I am in a dilemma. My Sempron system is heating up quite a bit. I > was > suggested by my vendor to replace the thermal pad but he didn't > know > which one is good as none of his customers have ever demanded one. > I > wonder which one is better - pad / grease? I couldn't find AMD > recommended thermal pads / greases. Also, I don't know which > thermal > pads / greases do we get in Mumbai. Can someone tell me where could > I > get these thermal pads / greases and which company do you recommend? How do u know it's the processor. After all u can't touch it. It should actually be the fan and the dust on the heat sink. Unless u have removed the heatsink a couple of times. rgds jtd

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[OT] Thermal pad / grease...
by Dinesh Joshi 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

I am in a dilemma. My Sempron system is heating up quite a bit. I was suggested by my vendor to replace the thermal pad but he didn't know which one is good as none of his customers have ever demanded one. I wonder which one is better - pad / grease? I couldn't find AMD recommended thermal pads / greases. Also, I don't know which thermal pads / greases do we get in Mumbai. Can someone tell me where could I get these thermal pads / greases and which company do you recommend? -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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[OT] MTNL broadband
by Satish Alwani 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

is the mtnl broadband/triband any good? I am considering it as a secondary connection to use.. for night usage. Is there a way to program the router to automatically log me off? like time based managment? I am considering the 590 plan with night unlimited. Any idea of the service of mtnl in delhi, i told one of my friends companies to consider it as a secondary connection to their existing airtel connection. Satish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MTNL broadband
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

On Sunday 21 August 2005 13:58, Satish Alwani wrote: > is the mtnl broadband/triband any good? I am considering it as a > secondary connection to use.. for night usage. It works very well. > Is there a way to > program the router to automatically log me off? That would depend on your router. But most routers have a cron daemon. > like time based > managment? I am considering the 590 plan with night unlimited. The plan is based on the amount of data shuffled. Makes no difference wether u are logged on or off. Any way set up your proxy appropriately. > > Any idea of the service of mtnl in delhi, i told one of my friends > companies to consider it as a secondary connection to their > existing airtel connection. > > Satish rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MTNL broadband
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

On Saturday 20 August 2005 23:10, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > On Saturday 20 August 2005 11:17, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: >> The MTNL engineers were very enthusiastic and spent > > several hours learning how to set up the dlink adsl > > modem.Apparently dlink / mtnl dont train their people. > > Any one with any more experiences before we can recommend it to > > all. > > Hi. I have talked to some of my friends and they have good things > to say about MTNL ADSL. The speeds are ok. Are you planning to > teach MTNL engineers on a regular basis? I would like to learn too > ^^ I have seen people use MTNL ADSL but I've not got my hands on it > :( If you have any plans to setup any more connections, I would > love to observe the process! I would be even more interested if > you're doing it on a *nix machine :D Am i crazy to use winblows??. Actually the setup is very simple if u have used linux. The modem connects to your box nic with a straight cable. It has a default ip of 192.168.1.1. You fire up your browser and connect to this ip. You can change the ip to something else, configure static ips, dhcp, some basic firewalling etc. U can also telnet into the modem. U can reflash the modem with the latest kernel, busybox and anything alse that u want flash size permitting. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fresher needs help!!
by Anurag 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

Sometime on Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 10:37:44AM +1000, Bhowmik Shah said: > I don't remember seeing any place in Bombay where I could work without > getting paid, in a technical position and still be trusted with handling a > major NGO's servers (which is what I am doing right now). This is a > fantastic opportunity to learn things in a real world scenario at the same > time as you are studying. There are opportunities in Mumbai, but one needs to be at the right place, at the right time :-) Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CLI based Internet
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

On Saturday 20 August 2005 15:57, nilesh mahajan wrote: > I have Knoppix 3.3 live linux with internal modem from d-link. > I want to configure CLI Internet but it didn't successed. > It detects my modem as a Rockwell but it is actually Conexant. > How can I configure it. Conexant was originally Rockwell. Search the lists someone has posted in detail on this regularly occuring issue. Also next time google before posting for help. rgds jtd

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debian reqd..
by Apoorva Kulkarni 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

hey folks.. im a new comer in the linux world and need debian linux for my BE project(on linux HA clusters using DRBD). anyone has an idea how i can get it? i live in chembur and study in thadomal shahani engg coll in bandra. if ne1 living in either of these two areas can help me with it i'll be very grateful.. also if ne1 is working on the same project as mine or similar one ,i would like to interact.. thx..linux rocks..

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] MRTG Problem
by Rajendra Rait 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

Hi Chirag, I am using the mrtg which came along with the Fedora core 3 cd. Rajendra Rait.

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pkgconfig problems
by Salil Wadhavkar 20 Aug '05

20 Aug '05

Hello, I am trying to install GTK2.6 and while installing one of the dependencies - Pango 1.8.2 - I encountered some problems: I have posted the details in the gtk-list mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2005-August/msg00149.html Now while running the configure script I have noticed something weird. pkg-config is used to find packages already installed. I have installed a utility - fontconfig-2.3.2 - in /usr/local/lib and the .pc file resides in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig I have set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig With this setting, when I issue the command: pkg-config --modverion fontconfig it returns 2.3.2, which is correct Now the problem: When I run the configure script for Pango-1.8.2 it cheks for fontconfig and returns version number 1.0.1 which is not correct. After digging I found an older installation of fontconfig in /usr/lib and the corresponding .pc file in /usr/lib/pkgconfig This older version is 1.0.1 but I want to use the newer 2.3.2 version (in /usr/local/lib). I don't understand why the configure script finds the older version and not the new one even after the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH is properly set. I am also running the configure script with --prefix=/usr/local Digging deeper, I noticed that even xft anf Glib libraries are showing the wrong older version in the configure script. Here is the output: checking for pkg-config... /usr//bin/pkg-config checking for fontconfig >= 1.0.1... yes checking FONTCONFIG_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include checking FONTCONFIG_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lfontconfig checking for freetype-config... /usr//bin/freetype-config checking for FT_Get_Next_Char in -lfreetype... yes checking for xft >= 2.0.0... yes checking XFT_CFLAGS... -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include checking XFT_LIBS... -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lXft -lfreetype -lXrender -lfontconfig checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.5.7 gobject-2.0 gmodule-no-export-2.0... yes checking GLIB_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include checking GLIB_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -liconv The FLAGS seem right. Can someone suggest a fix for this. I am not an expert. Thanks. -Salil Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Re: pkg-config problems
by Salil Wadhavkar 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hello, With reference to my earlier message: I just checked the configure script in detail and I realised my interpretation was wrong. Sorry about that. Nice learning experience though. The configure script checks for fontconfig version 'greater than' 1.0.1, which exists and is proper. Same thing with xft and Glib. All proper. However, I still am not able to install pango. The details of the error are here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2005-August/msg00149.html Can someone help ? Thanks -Salil. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Getting Connected to Internet :(
by Gokul Kannan Jeyapaul 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hello Friends, Its again me the great old problem child... Now landing here with old problem...in a different way... Im not able to connect Red Hat Linux 9 to internet..Im using Sify broadband ...I have already asked abt this issue in a previous mail..Where in i din't know a bit abt Linux..So friends in here helped me out abt saying how to do it using "neat" command.. I used this command and i have specified my static IP,Gateway,my prefd DNS and alternate DNS also....The state of my connection shows active :( but im not able to even ping the local gateway...also since im not able to ping the local gateway im not also able to use the sify BB client to connect to internet... I tried it whole of last nite didnt work at all :( don't know where im going wrong... please do guide me ...Im not sure...I think i mite get some yellings coz im posting the same issue again...But its ok..I can learn things :) Thanks in advance.. Regds, Gokul

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eth1 showing as dev609
by Harshal 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

hi, i have this small problem. i have 2 NIC (eth0 and eth1) one of the cards suddendly fried. so we got it replaced. but now if i do ifconfig instead of regulare eth0 and eth1, it shows dev609 and eth0. actually it works, but just feels different to call your NIC something like dev609. anyone know how do i revert back to eth1 as it used to be? -- Life is complex. It consists of real and imaginary parts.

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Fresher needs help!!
by gautam borad 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hi Linuxers, I have done my B.E in computers and am looking for a job.However my problem is that all the jobs opening out there are for .NET / SAP / ERP / Visual Crap etc etc. I did not find a single opening (for fresher) in systems programming (c/c++ in *nix, device driver etc) My friends say its foolish of me looking for such a job and that i must take whatever job i get . But my concern is if i take any SAP/.NET etc job what are my chances of switching to a systems job (which is what i want to do ultimately) I have done many hobby projects in linux.Right now im studying "Advanced programming in unix environment" by Richards. But i feel all this is gonna get wasted if i dont get a "good" job. Looking out for some good advise from you all. flames > /dev/null :) If any one wants to share their first job experience they are welcome. P.S : Any one knows of such job opening plz plz inform me. --------------------------------------- We would change the world.... but GOD wont give the source!! ---------------------------------------

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sendmail client with smtpd auth
by osk 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

hai, can you tell me how to send a mail from linux client with smtp auth for my smtp server using command line. regards karthikeyan.N -- winners don't do different things they do things differently

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A very nice article on "strace"
by Komal 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

One of my favorite tools in UNIX/LINUX land is "strace". But it rarely gets mentioned, this tool will tell who what a program is really doing... http://www.redhat.com/magazine/010aug05/features/strace/ Regards, Komal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by Arun K. Khan 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:55:38 +0530 > The growth of open source movement in India, in the last analysis, is > *solely* dependant on the amount of open source code produced here > simple, no code, no movement Amen, you have echoed my thoughts so succintly. For a global IT power, the number of OSS projects out of India is disproportionate. One sees very few names from SE Asia in the program/project credits list. Not only have the Indian IT power houses like Infosys, Wipro, HCL, etc. not taken any initiative like IBM, HP, Intel and such sponsoring OSDL (for example in the US), the educational institutions also seem to be caught in the web of the incumbent OS with few offerings on FOSS. The emphasis seems to be on teaching how to use packaged tools rather than fundamentals or concepts. IMO, a good start would be - the IT power houses and the educational institutions to get together and adopt an existing Indianized distro and ensure it continuance with updates/extensions (similar to Red Flag distro in China). The students under guidance could contribute code to defined projects. Their work would also count for credit towards completing their education, the funding could come from the Industry. -- -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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Issue with python pexpect
by Vikrant Gaonkar 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

Hello friends. I am facing a problem with pexpect(python expect). I want to take config of a router to a file. But when accessing the router configuration it comes at a prompt More and where the user has to press the spacebar key.My script presses the space bar key automatically but this process works only 5-7 times after that it comes and stops at the More prompt. Can anyone tell me why this is happening.Moreover it happens for all the routers as well as swithes. ____________________________________________________ Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win attractive prizes. Log on to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html

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