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64-bit compilation
by santosh rao 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi, i have a amd-opteron 246 processor. with slackware 10 installed. i have gcc-3.3.4 when i try to compile any code with 64-bit flag it is giving me an error stating that 64 bit not implemented. Do i have to install a newer version of gcc? Google as well as gcc.gnu doesny say much about 64bit compilation .... Anyone with any knowledge of 64 bit compilation please reply. -- Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take; out by the moments that take our breath away. Regards Santosh Rao

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Abhishek Daga 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

--- Mayuresh Rajwadkar <rajwadkar(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > HI > > Does anyone use a broadband connection, and run a LAN > behind a Linux Server ? Yes > I understand that most broadband providers talk on > "single" connection/Single PC only for residential > connections. > Since there was no question asked, I am not sure the relevance of your statement and the right context. Anyways, just to make an attempt.... For the Broadband provider, it doesnt matter whether your single connection is used for a single computer or shared between 100 computers. For them "single" refers to the fixed about of bandwidth that is alloted to you. This input can come into an NIC which could be your computer or a Router (which is essentially a NIC with frills). Then it's upto you what you want to do. So if you share the line between X machines, via Natting or Proxy server, the bandwidth for each individual machine goes down in some proportion. Though not in a linear fashion. This is because just because 2 machines are sharing a 128 Kbps line, does not mean that each will only get 56Kbps. Because not every machine is making a request at the same time. Yes, in the case of "Business" line, as also advertised by MTNL TriBand, they will assure you the speed for EACH of your machines. I have no idea what your actual question was going to be and your two statements were quite disconnected, but I executed an early morning rant dump anyways. If you feel the response was helpful, distribute 10 copies of the latest Stable OpenOffice else..... -abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Running FoxPRo app on FC3 via DosEMU
by vaibhav samant 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 Abhishek Daga wrote : >At the risk of stating the obvious, I'd like to add my 2 dinars. A major >roadblock to adoption of linux in small offices is that accounting applications >currently dependent on DOS (yes still people use them, and they work great) and >Win platforms need to be run. No way those people are going to adopt to any >experimental software. > >So, the mission began. Taking 1 office at a time: >(In my verbose narration I will mark the "points to ponder" within %% and %%) <snip> I tried doing the same. Foxpro based apps on Linux using Freedos. All worked fine in the experimental phase. But the moment we went to real usage (Full data entry and report generation), we hit a major road block. We found that there was no way to control the memory allotted to the DOS / Foxpro application. There were forms with more than 6-7 screens and towards the 5, 6 screen the foxpro would collapse, due to lack of memory (buffers or whatever). Tried a couple of tweaks, did not work out. I sure agree with you, to take Linux on desktops of every SME, we need to resolve just 4 major issues. (1) Foxpro Apps working (I know some major Pharma cos using Foxpro, Clipper apps. The world's best hotel s/w costing above a crore is on Foxpro-Dos. Thats the ground reality). (2) Get Tally on Linux. (3) Get printers to work. (4) Get linux to work on P-II, Celeron 333 with 64 MB RAM with X. I believe if these 4 issues are addressed, it will be must easier to get Linux in a large number of Small offices. And trust me we are talking of very large numbers. Figures could actually scare M$. regards, Vai

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Re: Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi Roshan, First of all don't refer me as SIR , Keep it reserved for somebody of real importance ... I am just a small entity ( I always feel a newbie ) in the Hacker Community .... We could be good friends....... Regarding the mail , Their is a catch in my statement itself if U read the mail carefully LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM was developed by Linus First of all LINUX is not a operating System at all.... It's JUST a kernel ........... So calling it a operating system is misleading, The Os which it actually refers is GNU / LINUX.... Which was definitely not developed by Linus alone.... It's a huge community effort all over the net , Which was started by Richard Stallman under the GNU PROJECT !!! GNU comprises more than 90% of the OS, which everybody is using today and unknowingly refering as just "linux" ?? While infact linux is a small ( i am not refusing it's importance ) part , called kernel which fits the GNU OS architecture so WE ( GNU FOLLOWERS )do not want to deny Linus any credit for Linux but also don't want everyone else using the OS to neglect the efforts and emotions of millions of hackers or Community who have contributed the GNU Project So FEEL PROUD to say I am using GNU / LINUX ( read GNU slash Linux ) Personally .. I am waiting for a complete GNU OS ..... :) I want to get rid of Linus ( i mean Linux and Linus : ) ) His views and statements are really not pro GNU... I am already trying GNU /HURD installation at home It's definitely the Future of OS to come.. Would like to hear more ... Bye For now , Regards, Shailesh =================================================================== They say LOVE is BLIND ................. But MARRIAGE is definitely an EYE OPENER ??? =================================================================== ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] IBM RS/6000 & Linux
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Sometime on Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:34:44AM +0530, Vishnu Lotlikar said: >> Hi, >> >> i have a RS/6000 machine lying idle in my company, can i sue it to install >> linux on the same, will GNU/linux support the hardware ??? >Sue whom? IBM? I'd be bankrupt if you could sue anything lying idle in the company. I'm reminded of a strip where Dilbert n gang go finger flicking coz no matter what they do, they are gonna get paid the same amount. Gishu

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grub removal
by K.Ponniah 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

hai friends, my sysem had a crash (harddisk) so the linux partion had been removed from the system and converted to fat-32 xp partition But the boot loader of linux doesn't get removed I want to "remove" the grub and load windows directly so that i can recover other files please help me urs, K.Ponniah Senthil ========================= Stylish Ur life with me.. ========================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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M$ stealing ideas? nah it's innovation
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 17 Apr '05

17 Apr '05

For the billybaba fans. http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3497561 " A preliminary injunction in a patent infringement suit filed by Alacritech could keep Microsoft's Longhorn from getting out of the gate. Microsoft (Quote, Chart) plans to ship its next version of Windows, code-named Longhorn, in 2006. But Alacritech claims Longhorn includes its intellectual property. " M$ innovation version 2005. rgds jtd

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Mandrake 10.1 Installation Report
by Rony Bill 17 Apr '05

17 Apr '05

Dear Friends, Got myself a dvd rom and the linux distros are now being tried out one by one. First the live cds were tried out. Knoppix 3.2 and Cool Linux. Knoppix is fairly good for a general live os setup. Cool Linux is a Russian distro and comes with a dvd player icon on the desktop itself. On booting, it gives a big list of boot options of different screen resolutions and kernel versions. This is a very usefull feature. This software is worth atleast to have a close look. The main software tried out was Mandrake 10.1. This is a 3 cd iso set and initially the installation does look dull with a low resolution keyboard only type interface. It had boot loader options like loading in the mbr or on the root partition. I wrongly selected the root partition and after reboot, nothing could be booted and I only got a grub prompt. The rescue option in the cd1 only reloads the bootloader, does not allow any changes. So the os was reloaded and this time the mbr option was selected. The os was loaded with the 'workstation' type installation. On reboot, it gave me choices of linux, and windows. Mandrake uses lilo by default. I tried to point to the rhel installation in /etc/lilo.conf but the lilo command reports failures. A peculiar feature of Mandrake is that root cannot log into the X mode. On typing a root password, the login window only giggles and wiggles. The root has console access only. In the console, a new user was created and this user gets X login and desktop. My sound card was detected without any hiccups. There is a very good all-in-one control centre that allows you to configure everything. It asks for a root password for access. You are still in user mode only. In this control centre there is a bootloader selection option and I chose grub on my root partition. This brought back my favourite loader and the /boot/grub/menu.lst was modified to point to the rhel os. Everything perfect. After the initial speedbreakers, I find that this is the most compatible distro to the new P4 systems. It has audio, video (media) players, a video editor too. The video player can play a video cd smoothly with excellent picture and sound with full screen mode too. There is a dvd play option too but I don't have a video dvd to test. The lx300 printer too got setup. My external modem gets setup in a jiffy using kppp. There are minor problems of no drivers available for my canon D646U scanner and the canon digicam. But as time goes by this may be available soon. There is a firewall that keeps you protected. The default desktop is the latest kde 3+ with nice little utilities. Open office is the latest 1.3 version. If anyone has a ppd file for lx300, please mail it to me. The linuxprinting site does not have it but it says that it can be available in your windows partition too, though its not in my xp nor in my winme. I have misplaced the driver cd. This file can be added to my driver in mandrake and this would enhance printing features. On a scale of 1 to 10, this distro gets between 7 and 8. Regards, Rony.

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Mail receiving problem
by Vdk khar 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

Hi I installed exim MTA and Pine on solaris 8. I am able to send mails to any address but not vice-versa. But mails are receiving from same domain. Plese help me.. Thanks & Regards Vishwas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] FEDORA CORE 3 NETWORK WITH XP
by Sameer Niphadkar 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 ashwani mahajan wrote : >hi >i have a laptop with xp prof ,connected via ethernet >to a pc having windows xp and fedora core 3 as dual >operating system. xp to xp is networked perfectly.i >am also using remote desktop within two.can it be done >with fedora core 3 ? If yes how ? how about remote >desktop between fc3 and xp? Please help. > If on the network, use rdesktop in X. It is quite the same Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Perl Workshop
by Sameer Niphadkar 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 Harshal wrote : >On 15 Apr 2005 05:08:53 -0000 > >where is the info. related to perl workshop? Sorry for my error in posting, well here's the info -- Orignal Message -- From: paulalapatt <info(a)meetup.com> To: spniphadkar(a)rediffmail.com Subject: Perl Workshop Your Organizer, paulalapatt, sent the following message to the members of Mumbai Red Hat Meetup Group: Hi Everyone, For all those of you who always wanted to take up a black belt in the art of "Perl" programming aka camel riding, can grab all you can. A Bunch of members on the "Red Hat Group" have agreed to kick start a regular "PERL Hands on Workshop", and top it all its FREE!. If you have a low I.Q. and an undisciplined mind then you are all set for taking part in this amazing art of PERL programming. The skillset in PERL PROGRAMMING is a definite must for those of you who are looking at making a career in system management and advance bio-informatics and grid computing where PERL is widely used. So get in touch with me at "paul(a)bernardlabs.org" or buzz me on +91-9820187987. Anyone who would like to contribute in some way to this Workshop are most welcome. Take care, Da Organizer. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Government and Open Source
by jitendras＠vsnl.com 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

You may also visit www.janabhaaratii.org.in , another C-DAC site which is exclusively Free/Opensource You are invited to comment and contribute too. jitendra Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:04:40 +0000 From: "Dinesh Joshi" <dinesh_pro(a)hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Government and Open Source To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Message-ID: <BAY24-F39618193FF0FC728C7BDA5E0350(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga(a)yahoo.com> >The cdac site http://www.cdac.in is slow/not opening, so cannot get the >details >right now. But the effort if serious is great. They prolly have the server running on a 64Kbps pipe @ VSNL DC :P >If anyone is aware of more such Initiatives by the Government please feel >free to >post. Yep, I remember CDAC releasing iLeap(sp?) ( multi lingual word processor ). Shreelipi is another example. I think iLeap was for windows while Shreelipi was for Linux(or was it dos?). Regards, Dinesh.

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User creation in Red Hat Enterprise WS3
by Anthony Valankani 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Hi All! I have recently installed Redhat Linux Enterprise Edition with one of our customer. The problem i am facing is in user creation. Earlier they were using RHL 8.0. The user name are with (.) eg. (name.surname(a)domain.com). How do we create the same in RHL Enterprise Edition?, the error reported is "invalid username" We have done a full complete installation. Thanks Val __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Perl Workshop
by Sameer Niphadkar 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Just a fwd... Thanks Sameer Note: Forwarded message attached -- Orignal Message -- From: paulalapatt <info(a)meetup.com> To: spniphadkar(a)rediffmail.com Subject: Perl Workshop 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] about traning
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 13:05, milind nivruti bhosle wrote: > dear sir i am working with Linux last two years i am basically now > full installation,hardware/software problem & networking now i want > to learn much more networking please give about traning centre > thank you. Read up the networking howtos and nag docs which is available in most distros in /usr/share/doc. rgds jtd

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FEDORA CORE 3 NETWORK WITH XP
by ashwani mahajan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

hi i have a laptop with xp prof ,connected via ethernet to a pc having windows xp and fedora core 3 as dual operating system. xp to xp is networked perfectly.i am also using remote desktop within two.can it be done with fedora core 3 ? If yes how ? how about remote desktop between fc3 and xp? Please help. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by sanjeev chauhan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Buddy professional service cost lot of money. Also Red Hat don't support RH 9 anymore. So you are on your own. regards S --- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:42, Richard Chang > wrote: > > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > > why dont you contact Redhat? > > > They have a paid subscription. > > > Or Novell who have the same. > > > > If he could pay Redhat, he would not had posted it > here. > > In any case if you can't or dont want to help, pls > don't discourage > > others by putiing these words. > > He is going to screw his server harddisk which is > most likely to have > important data. Telling him to get professional help > sounds > discouraging?? > > rgds > jtd > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents
by Roshan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

To: mailing List <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:55:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents Dear ALL, At hte meet of March in TIFR, I had raised a issue of Redhat Training Documentation RH-033 had some wrong info about GNU/Linux, It had mentioned that LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM was developed by Linus Torvald ( which defintely is not the case ) So I had discussed with Nagarjuna and Others in meet to raise the issue to redhat.. But now that I have checked their new documentation books of Training they have updated their entire contents for intro to LINUX,they have mentioned FSF ,GNU etc every thing look more OK So I guess their is no issue to be raised .... I was not in touch of the list for more than 15 days since monthend ... Was the meet for April conducted ?? Regards, Shailesh Sir, I am new to this community. Considering this post you have made is putting up a question that whether LINUX was really developed by LINUS TORVARLDS. Most of in this world, praise Linus for LINUX. Then, how is that, you say that Linux is not developed by LINUS TORVALDS. As far I know, LINUS has not developed LINUX "ALONE". But he's the main man behind KERNEL of every linux Operating System. Secondly, there are few group of people who are called as "hackers" who helped linus in developing LINUX. I dont intent to deny your facts but just want to clarify. You definitely have better knowledge. I am sorry if in anyways this email is not written in the professional way. _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by vaibhav samant 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

> > If internet is down, and if I try to ssh to the server from within the > > LAN the passwd prompt come late. What could be the reason for this. ------------------ >DNS. Or rather reverse lookup. Add a local (within LAN) DNS server >with forward and reverse entries for your local machines and make sure >this server is queried first. Your problem of "late prompt" will >disappear. ----------------- I only have one Linux Server in the LAn with Sendmail + Squid running. Do I need to configure bind for DNS, or is there a simpler way. Thx, Vai.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:42, Richard Chang wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > why dont you contact Redhat? > > They have a paid subscription. > > Or Novell who have the same. > > If he could pay Redhat, he would not had posted it here. > In any case if you can't or dont want to help, pls don't discourage > others by putiing these words. He is going to screw his server harddisk which is most likely to have important data. Telling him to get professional help sounds discouraging?? rgds jtd

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Lug Meet
by Derwyn Dpenha 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

where and when is the lug meet for this month Derwyn

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Re:Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by Amit Karpe 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Hi , I got some links from googling for "ext3 recovery" http://www.data-recovery-software.net/Linux_Recovery.shtml/?GGLAW070 http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm http://www.topshareware.com/Quick-Recovery-for-Linux-download-35898.htm "rlinux" utility may help you . http://www.bestsoftorder.com/R-Linux-download-261.html http://www.r-linux.net/downloads/rlinux_en_10.exe?swcom001 Actually there are lot of software to recover data from ext3 filesystem . Few are like "rlinux" , "Recover4All" and "Easy recovery" . Though they work on Windows they have good chance to recover your data on linux partition . PS : I am not a expert but I use "Easy recovery" that works for my friend . This is really easy to use software . -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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Anti-trust Act: Do we have something similar
by Abhishek Daga 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

I got this from the Codeweavers site. An excerpt available at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/licensing/ Q) Can Microsoft prevent CodeWeavers' customers from running Microsoft applications on Linux? "A. No. Microsoft's end-user licenses do not preclude operating their applications under other operating systems. Were Microsoft to attempt to prohibit such usage, by requiring that Microsoft products be run only on the Windows OS, they would be in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. The Sherman Act precludes making the usage of a non-monopoly product dependent on the purchase of a monopoly product. Microsoft has been convicted of monopolist practices under the Sherman Act regarding their operating systems. As a result, they cannot legally make Microsoft Office dependent on having a Windows OS license." So on similar lines if any software vendor also says that their products will be supported only on a particular platform, would they be violating any Indian Law?" I know we have MRTP but does it apply to the case above? -abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Government and Open Source
by Abhishek Daga 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

CDAC has placed a half page color advertisement in the Mumbai Newsline (Indian Express) and probably other papers about "The release of Free Tamil Software Tools and Fonts". They include 220 Tamil fonts, Tamil Office Suite, Tamil Spell checker, Tamil Browser, Tamil Email, Tamil e-dictionary, Tamil OCR. Ravi Ventakesan, Chairman of MS India is also going to be present. The venue is Hotel Park Sheraton, Chennai, 5 PM on 15th April 2005. Can anyone give a first hand report? IF you are part of "ALL" you are invited. The cdac site http://www.cdac.in is slow/not opening, so cannot get the details right now. But the effort if serious is great. Nowhere is the need to develop low cost applications more serious for national development than India. Not only low cost hardware, but low cost software is essential too. The potential and applications are limitless. And only the Government, (whose primary mission in theory, is not-for-profit but for people) is in a position to drive such initiatives at such a scale as required. If anyone is aware of more such Initiatives by the Government please feel free to post. thank you, abhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] HDD Cable Problems.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Saturday 09 April 2005 23:40, Arun Khan wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 10:41 PM, Rony Bill <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > ... snip > > > What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like > > these? > If u connect a cdrom drive and a hdd on the same cable you are very likely to have a problem. > The thin wire IDE cables support ATA100/133. The regular IDE > cables support upto ATA66. The regular ide cable supports only ata33. The 80 wire cable is needed for 66/100/133 Mhz idebus speed. rgds jtd

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