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DeveloperIQ: GentooLinux 1.2, PhatLinux, compile your kernel...
by Frederick Noronha 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

----------------------------------------------------------------- DeveloperIQ "India's first complete software mag" Sept 2002 issue: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Highlights from the issue, compiled by FN: * Free as in freedom... focus on some alternate OSs - SpinOS (an OS that blurs the distinction between kernels and applications). - ReactOS: an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system that is compatible with Windows NT applications and drivers. - BeOS: contains advantages from several OSs without ancient oddments of older versions. - Inferno: middleware, networking operating system, and a development environment for embedded systems. - Gentoo Linux 1.2: High-performance ports-based Linux metadistribution. Gentoo Linux has an advanced package management system called Portage. - Phat Linux 3.3: You can install Phat Linux on your computer without repartitioning your hard disk. - S.Ha.R.K: a dynamic configurable kernel architecture designed for supporting hard, soft and non real-time applications with interchangeable scheduling algorithms. * In the CD: - SpinOS - ReactOS - BeOS - Phat Linux 3.3 - Gentoo Linux 1.2 - Vita Nuova Inferno - netowrk operating system - SHaRK - XFree86 (freely redistributable, open-source implementation fo the XWindows Systems) * Post your problem: Questions on - How to figure out if your Ethernet card is recognised? (itconfig netstat) - How to access files on an MS-DOS partition or floppy - What does it mean if your meachine boots, says LI and then freezes? - What if you forget your Linux password? - How to install GNU software in Linux? - How to configure your network in Mandrake? - How to create a 'multiboot' LILO in Linux? * Compile your own Linux kernel. Continuing the journey with Philip de Groot. Concluding of a two-part series. * Look out for some database abstraction on PHP and learn about the Perl DBI (use Perl to access many different types of databases through a single API that works independently of the actual database being used). * Ad for Borland Delphi7 Studio. "Provides the migration path to .NET that developers have been waiting for. ... you're in control of a complete e-business development studio -- with the freedom to easily take your solutions cross-platform to Linux. Visit www.borland.com or email indiacustserv(a)borland.com mentioning Delphi7 in the subjectline. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Contact DeveloperIQ (www.developeriq.com). Price Rs 100 in India. Two CDs included. Bouquets and brickbats to ramdas(a)developeriq.com Send your letters in under 350 words, mention address/job designation ----------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha Freelance Journalist http://linuxinindia.pitas.com

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Opening up GNU/Linux in new areas ...
by Frederick Noronha 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

In the thick of the (delayed) monsoons means one has to put up with an additional round of computer-related woes. So, this evening, I found myself at ASIC in Panjim, trying to sort out a bad sectored-hard disk. One of the staff there raised the issue. "Why don't you teach us Linux?" he asked. Soon, two or three others were asking. In no time, they had put together a list of seven e-mail addresses, all of whom were hardware techies wanting to "learn Linux". Maybe the question was not put to the best person. (I'm no GNU/Linux guru.) But it set one thinking.... What can be done to promote GNU/Linux among new users? And also among Windows techies and hardware people, who could then spread it further? Two suggestions: * Tips on GNU/Linux targetted at newbies, to help them take up a kind of self-learning process... Such tips could be of the how-to-get-started type. * Holding a few demos of various installs. Andrew asked: "Please let us know when you'll will demo an install." He underlined the need for handholding for new users to get past the partitioning stage. Any volunteers to take these possibilities forward? Pls contact me off-list. Thanks, FN

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Query on Gphoto...
by Frederick Noronha 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Any idea why my digital camera downloads superbly with Gphoto on Mandrake 8.0, but doesn't with Gphoto on RedHat 6.2? Tks, FN

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Intel pro1000
by Hiten Desai 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

I have installed Intel Pro 1000 (10/100/1000 Mbit) on Redhat 6.2 (2.2.19) but I am receiving this error on console e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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Interesting topic
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

the less informed said 1) X gui is bloated 2) most of the world uses windoze 3) users want something that works 4) u cant make money on free software Seems that the issues were mixed and arguments against linux were not in context. 1) X was designed with networking in mind. It is ideal for a thin client environment and will outperform the windows gui (which in fact cannot operate as a thin client) by miles not to mention issues of maintainence and upgradation. 2) HE HE. total number of non i386 processors sold is higher by several orders of magnitude. They run customised software which makes it possible for crap like windows to exist in the first place. (Power, railways, mining, communications, manufacturing, medical tecnology). 3) If u think that windows works ur idea of "works" needs corrective education (a stint at gulag microsoft might be in order). If u are an engineer please dont mention the two in the same breath. 4) Refer 2. One single contract in one of the above fields will provide you enough work to last a life time. If u so much as mention windows in these circiles u would be thrown out pronto (presuming you managed to worm ur way in in the first place). But the above completely misses out on something very basic "what is good for u and ur business" U may be a business end user or a professional in the computer industry, the basics are the same. Lets talk only of a business providing software to another business. Basic principles are 1) reduce the cost of your input raw material (best if free) 2) deploy your manpower effeciently (debug your code instead of M$ code) 3) Focus 4) Reuse (possible in the above industries only if complete processor cross compatability exists) So what would you do fatten microsoft and waste time finding uncorrectable bugs or use GNU/Linux With the advent of the latest Open office suite, the last hurdle has vanished (a very small number of issues remain with some complex M$ documents). So IMHO stop thinking about windows. It is irrelevant in 99% of microprocessors. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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[ANNOUNCE] HyParSuite - Hypertext Parsing Suite
by Ravindra Jaju 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Hi all. This is to announce a pre-alpha release of my Hypertext Parsing Suite. It can "clean" HTML ( or other markup languages, depending on the user-defined rule table ) to get an output which matches the rules in your table, create a DOM tree for use in various applications and a lot of other stuff. It comes in the class of Tidy ( tidy.sourceforge.net ), but has very different goals. One is - it does NOT try to create standards-compliant HTML, but cleans and parses to create something useful for applications ( like, in information retrieval and extraction etc. ). It reads its rules from a user-supplied table, and the default one resembles HTML very closely. The suite includes a sample.cpp file to show how to use the library. And the library can be linked to your applications too. Examples could be extracting particular parts from your markup language files like links, or tables. It is written in C++, and does not *yet* use the auto* tools. Simple make commands to build and install ( in your $HOME ) We have run this code on huge amounts of data ( > 1 GB ), and found it to be stable and without memory leaks. There are other related applications written around this code which I'm planning to release soon. Please download and test. URL: http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/hypar/ Online docs created from doxygen can be found on the site. -- jaju PS: Probably not the right time to release, as I'll be away from Saturday for a week. But please let me know of any issues/ideas/suggestions, and I'll look into them after I come back.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] nikhil : re to re
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

>planet must use it. There always should be some space for >improvement ;) true... but i refuse to let loose my purse strings for patchy software from MS. -Amol.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 06:28 even 9/4/02 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: > > I dont need some site telling me which is better - I *use* IE6 and Mozilla > > 1.0 - Mozilla is good. Especially Galeon is very fast under Gnome (as it > >I think what he meant was that IE cannot display all the features of style >sheets because it doesn't support them. IE is not a standards compliant >browser, although IE6 is probably the closest that they've come. I had got that. But my *whole* argument was from the user point of view. Not the technical. Mozilla may be superior to IE in design, architecture etc. - but IE is faster/cleaner to use. Have Netscape/Mozilla *always* been 100% compliant? My webpage, which I handcoded in HTML looked bad in Netscape 4.?, It looked better in Mozilla, but much better in IE5+. I have used png, jpeg, CSS2.0 & plain HTML only. On my X, Mozilla takes 10-15 seconds to start. Galeon takes 4-7. On my windows Netscape 6 took ~20 sec to load. Mozilla 6-10. IE takes ~1 sec. It is not that I need IE, when in Linux I prefer Links. But of course it is pointless. quasi p.s. I think with this mail I will retire from this thread. Throwing about our-own chests in front of each other is not the Linux way, at least not for me. I have peace, in that I have converted a sufficiently large number of people to the GNU/Linux way.

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Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Parul Mathur 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

>Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:29:36 +0530 > From: Ravindra Jaju <jaju(a)it.iitb.ac.in> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 07:09:02PM +0530, Philip S Tellis >wrote: > > Hmm, I use HTML generated by a CGI script reading from a text >file. It > > takes me 20 minutes to make my text file. > >I use a simple Perl script. >You can supply a stylesheet from the command line, or else you >get >plain 'white' pages ... > >I can make the Perl script available if anyone wishes .... > >-- >jaju > Dear Philip, I was very impressed when I first saw you using those HTML files as "slides". When I left NCST and joined my present company, I made a stylesheet that mimicked the company standard for PPTs. To make individual "slides" I would manually and laboriously make several copies of the first "slide" and then edit it... you get the picture. So I would be really grateful if you could make your CGI script available for download on your website. Could you also make a non-CGI version available for use on the command line? Thanks. Dear Jaju, I was equally impressed by your tutorial at http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/tutorials/net/tcpip/node1.html I was using IE6 at that time (800 x 600 resolution) and for some reason the text in the "slide" on the right seemed too big; I tried to change the text size to "Smallest" but there was no effect. Something wrong with IE? In any case, your Perl script would be very welcome too. Instructions for use would also be very helpful. Thanks. Parul

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Internal Modem
by Sameer Shinde 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Dear Lugers, We ( myself & Kedar ) having some problems while installing the Motorola sm56 internal modem on RHL7.2 Can somebody help us. The readme file along with the rpm which we have says that the rpm file can be used on RHL7.1 along with the kernel 2.4.x But we have RHL7.2 along with kernel 2.4.x Can anybody tell us how can we use the rpm on 7.2 If not where can we get the drivers for 7.2 & / or 7.3 Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) P.S. : Sometime back I read ( I think on mailing list only ) that Motorola stops developing the drivers for sm56 on linux. Is this true? In such case how can we get the drivers. Actually this is one of the reason why I'm not switching from 7.1 to 7.2 or 7.3 or any other distribution. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer Visit My web-site @ : www.geocities.com/s9sameer/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 03:28 even 9/4/02 +0530, PTellis wrote: >>On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: >> > click, get a presentation done for tomorrow in 20 minutes and >>go to >> >>powerpoint takes significantly more than 20 minutes to build a >>presentation. more than a few hours actually. even then the >>presentation isn't visible on an OHP because the person who >>built the presentation doesn't understand the difference between >>a CRT and a projector. > >If that comes to that, it is best to use transparencies and OHP >marker pens. That is why most of the dear lecturers at NCST do >that. > >>well, I use linux because it works better than anything else >>I've used, and it looks better than anything else I've used. >>Yes, I use X a lot when I'm at work, and it's painful to have to >>use a windows machine after sitting at my system. The widgets >>look ugly, the colours are >>terrible, the sharp edges I don't like, and the nasty >>double-clicking is too much for me. I use Gnome as my DM and >>Mozilla as my browser. > >{grin} we surely have different tastes. But I guess the colours >bit is a bit too much dont you think? You can have whatever >colours you like, windows or x. In XP you get all sorts of >curves too, translucence, shadow, single clicks - all the works. >Even getting single clicking to win98 SE is a trivial 5 sec job. >Come come Sir, let us be unbiased. > >I am not propagating M$ products. >I am not saying windows is better overall. >All I am saying is dont ignore the good points of M$. As I >mentioned earlier, M$ has had no qualms incorporating features >swiped from all over the place. >What makes windows bearable, too, are some super cool *free* >software available for it. *chop* Those are called give-aways. If you have paid for the software, you have paid for the give-away in a way. If you haven't what you are doing is illegal. >Anyway we can sit arguing like this forever. In the end, we get >used to and love what we use. Yes, we could go on... But we should remember that we should only do things that we love doing legally ;). I may agree that Windows does give much more better performance compared to Linux with respect to some areas. But then one must also take several other things into account. If Linux was a built like Windows it would be hundered times better, perhaps more stable even. You may like using MS today, but as how many people and I see it, GNU/Linux will have the upperhand in the future. You can mark my words for this one :). Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 07:09 even 9/4/02 +0530, Tellis wrote: >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: > > If that comes to that, it is best to use transparencies and OHP marker > > pens. That is why most of the dear lecturers at NCST do that. > >Hmm, I use HTML generated by a CGI script reading from a text file. It >takes me 20 minutes to make my text file. I use HTML for slides too. I dont have M$ Office. But a *lot* of others do. And calling them idiots is rather strange. q p.s. before we spiral out, please try to recollect my first mail, if you read it. I _am_not_ propagating Windows here for you all to jump on me. I did not even say anything against GNU/Linux. I only said X sucked. It really does. Why be zealotish?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 08:01 morn 9/4/02 +0530, Nikhil wrote: >I can only imagine what it must be like for Arts/Commerce/ ppl to >understand what is Linux What makes you think that *all* CS BE students know what a computer is? I have a friend with TCS who did his BE CS from VJTI and who surprises me. And I know a few from Commerce/Arts who aint bad... not bad at all. quasi p.s. Engg is a big joke. If you know what I mean... ;-D

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] SysAds Required / CISA,CISSPs Required
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Nilesh Chaudhari wrote : >Hi! Guys, > >The company where I work needs system administrators with >the following requirements - > > * Should possess a BE degree with atleast 1 year > of system administration experience. > * Extensive knowledge of Linux/OpenBSD. > * Strong on TCP/IP & Networking > * Extensive knowledge of Proxies/Mail/DNS/FTP servers > * Well versed with Firewall architectures and IDSes > * Strong Shell / Perl Scripting Skills. > * Very good communication skills. > * Based in Mumbai. > >Additionally, there is also a requirement for CISA/CISSP >certified guys with following criteria - > > * Should possess atleast 2 years experience in the > security field. > * Should have CISA / CISSP certification ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Which company is this? How many people in India have CISSP certs? Just below a 100! Bleh! -ah.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 03:28 even 9/4/02 +0530, PTellis wrote: >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: > > click, get a presentation done for tomorrow in 20 minutes and go to > >powerpoint takes significantly more than 20 minutes to build a >presentation. more than a few hours actually. even then the presentation >isn't visible on an OHP because the person who built the presentation >doesn't understand the difference between a CRT and a projector. If that comes to that, it is best to use transparencies and OHP marker pens. That is why most of the dear lecturers at NCST do that. >well, I use linux because it works better than anything else I've used, >and it looks better than anything else I've used. Yes, I use X a lot when >I'm at work, and it's painful to have to use a windows machine after >sitting at my system. The widgets look ugly, the colours are >terrible, the sharp edges I don't like, and the nasty double-clicking is >too much for me. I use Gnome as my DM and Mozilla as my browser. {grin} we surely have different tastes. But I guess the colours bit is a bit too much dont you think? You can have whatever colours you like, windows or x. In XP you get all sorts of curves too, translucence, shadow, single clicks - all the works. Even getting single clicking to win98 SE is a trivial 5 sec job. Come come Sir, let us be unbiased. I am not propagating M$ products. I am not saying windows is better overall. All I am saying is dont ignore the good points of M$. As I mentioned earlier, M$ has had no qualms incorporating features swiped from all over the place. What makes windows bearable, too, are some super cool *free* software available for it. Anyway we can sit arguing like this forever. In the end, we get used to and love what we use. >I can watch movies full screen, and if only I could get a pair of speakers >in here, I could hear them too (my sound system is configured correctly). We can watch full screen movies in Windows too. :D And yes I require a pair of speaker to get sound out of windows too. BTW on my P200MMX watching fullscreen movies on Linux was *very* jerky. Ditto windows media player. But Cyberlink player played the same movies super smooth. > > that it has the potential to be ~170 deg K. > >hmmm... cool enough to get frostbite. ofcourse, if that's too cool for >some people, they could just switch themes, and linux would be hot! as you know, ice can give you "burns" ... :D So, that 170'K I mentioned is both super cool as well as burning hot - take your pick. Let me quote William Blake "If the doors of perception were cleansed, all things would appear infinite" quasi

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 04:47 even 9/4/02 +0530, TH wrote: >>On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:05:35 +0530 >>Q u a s i <quasar(a)vsnl.net> wrote: >> >> > I still trip on winamp+tripex3 and surf the net with IE. >>(X-windows suxx majorly.) >> >>Hold it, hold it. Circa June 2000, my Gnome + Enlightenment >>desktop was a showcase that caused many a dropped jaws. I can >>any day say without hesitation that Gnome (haven't used KDE) is >>ages ahead of MS > >We dont agree. I have had X all the time past 6 years. But I >have always found it be a substandard, and a rather ad-hoc GUI. >The need to keep it generic and portable has made the X >architecture excessively slow. They are bring in (supposedly) >cool things like DRI etc. we shall see... I have used Gnome >(Xamian & otherwise) and it has definitely come a long way but it >lacks smoothness and that crisp feel. First time I installed >enlightenment and the bluesteel theme even my jaw dropped to the >floor. But enlightenment has eye candy but is bulky and slack & >I dont like nor need all those frills while working. Sawfish is >fast but still not smooth enough. IceWM & FVWM2 were the best I >have used. Windows 98SE is *way* faster and smoother and >crispier (talking about the GUI only) especially when you take >away the web integration. In the past 2 years I am using it I >have got the arbit blue screen only 4 or 5 times. And I have >hung my xserver as many times too. Whatever you use, you have to >tweak it for better performance, aint it so dear Sir? We can all >equally say {quote}"I'm sorry, you probably never tried to go >beyond the default settings of your window manager."{/quote} *cut* Starting from XP onwards this will change. MS GUI will be more idiot-friendly. Win98 SE is longer officially supported. Besides that is your copy legal? -Ah.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Ravindra Jaju wrote : >On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 12:50:01PM -0000, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > > > Ahhh, see I'll make it sound simple - before any HTML is sent >to > > the browser, the server dishes out headers to it. The > > 'Content-Type' and Content-Size is one example, cookies are > > another. However this process only happens once, that is to >say > > you cannot send headers after you've sent the browser HTML. > > > > So do your includes _before_ sending HTML and do not print or >echo > > anything in the includes unless you obviously can't do with >out > > it. Also for debugging, set variables rather than using >die(). > >Not too sure about this, but iirc, this changes with the newer >version >of PHP. > >Output is buffered, so you can have headers anywhere. > >Need to confirm though. > Nor am I... but I am sure sometimes scripts have to run with older versions of PHP. Server Admins resist installing something new just because its has one new cool-feature. Basically they are *drones*, but with PHP the reasons are good - major security flaws. So its better to have headers before HTML. Your scripts stay portable. Regards, -Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net wrote : >Hi guys, > >I am having an issue with generating images using PHP. > >When I include the PHP file(ex. graph.php), which generates the >PNG image, in my current html file, it gives an error saying >"Headers already sent. * snip * Ahhh, see I'll make it sound simple - before any HTML is sent to the browser, the server dishes out headers to it. The 'Content-Type' and Content-Size is one example, cookies are another. However this process only happens once, that is to say you cannot send headers after you've sent the browser HTML. So do your includes _before_ sending HTML and do not print or echo anything in the includes unless you obviously can't do with out it. Also for debugging, set variables rather than using die(). Regards, -ah.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] command line MP3 player??
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 12:06 morn 9/3/02 +0530, you wrote: >>hey luggerz >>does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the >>command prompt >>my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play >>some media >>Gurpreet > >try splay or mp3blaster. >on my Pentium MMX 200MHz it used to take up 9-11% system >resources according to top. Compare this with winamp which used >~40%. But the latest versions of splay and mp3blaster are >equally fast. > mp3blaster rawks! -ah

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

> Adding on to what Harsh said, I would like to point out that most > universities across the world are beginning to adopt UNIX as the > standard platform for teaching programming. UNIX ? But that's closed source isn't it (at least the commercial versions.) Was it s/UNIX/Linux that you meant to say ? --amar -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. You are the sum total of the choices you make.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] command line MP3 player??
by Mandar Khanolkar 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hi Gurpreet try mpg123 song.mp3 command. Mandar On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 Gurpreet Singh wrote : >hey luggerz >does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the command >prompt >my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play >some media >Gurpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux CD
by upendra gandhi 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Statistical Analysis in PHP
by Amol Hatwar 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net wrote : >hi guys, > >I have a mysql database with some statistical data. I need to > >write a php script to perform analysis on that data. > >Does anybody know any functions in PHP which would help me > >to calculate mean. *snip* bad luck... AFAIK PHP has every function in the world except those. Try proding at the math functions - I haven't used them yet. If don't get anything there, we can implement it in PHP. If you need the functions to be fast - they should be; (PHP is about speed) we can implement it in C, and extend PHP. Perhaps, even get our modification incorporated. Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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command line MP3 player??
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hey luggerz does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the command prompt my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play some media Gurpreet

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[OT] [Commercial] Sort-term Professional courses at NCST
by Philip S Tellis 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

==================================================================== Short-Term Professional Education Courses at NCST ==================================================================== NCST is committed to India's role as a leader in software technology. Apart from carrying out R&D with a practical impact we also make a significant contribution to high quality education and training of professionals for the IT industry in India. NCST courses are highly valued for their balanced emphasis on core concepts as well as current technologies, and our Short-Term Professional Education (P.E.) courses are no exception. The details are available at the following address: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/education/advcourses/ Upcoming Short-Term Professional Education Courses at NCST Mumbai ----------------------------------------------------------------- Course | Date | Fees | Venue ------------------------------------------------------------------- Artificial Neural | September 16th - 20th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Networks | 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Unified Software | September 16th - 20th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Development Process | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Learning Management | September 23rd - 25th | Rs 4500/-| NCST, Systems | 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Assessment | October 16th - 18th | Rs 4500/-| NCST, Technologies | 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Intelligent | October 21st - 25th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Information Retrieval| 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Fundamentals of | November 11th - 15th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, COM | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Fundamentals of | November 11th - 15th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, COM | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Theory and Applns of | November 25th - 29th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Algorithms | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Graphics using OpenGL| February 3rd - 7th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, | 2003 | | Juhu | | | Computer Aided | March 24th - 28th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Geometric Design | 2003 | | Juhu | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Prospective participants from recognised, academic institutions (such as IIT, VJTI, BITS, IISc., etc.) are eligible for a 50% waiver in the course fee for all the Professional Education (PE) courses announced by NCST. Such application forms should be accompanied by a certificate from the Departmental Head or Principal of the academic institution to certify that the participant is a bonafide employee working in the capacity of a Lecturer/Professor/Technical Head, etc.

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