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Mailing list etiquette
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 02 Dec '01

02 Dec '01

Some time ago, Philip had posted a list of guidelines about posting to a mailing list ... Where can I find it? I don't know what phrase to search for ... SameerDS. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfigurable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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History Prob......
by Desai Ashish 02 Dec '01

02 Dec '01

Dear Luggers, Do any one plz. suggest me that in Linux if i press up/down arrow keys then the previous commands will come. That is History....But how could i remove the History....Complete and Partial also. Plz. suggest me some solution.... Regards, [Ashish] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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kernel:process modes
by abhijeet 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

hi this is about a kernel mechanism... a process executes in 'user mode' normally. When it makes a system call it switches to 'kernel mode'. Now in 'user mode' it only as access to the process related data structures and in 'kernel mode',it can do anything. My Question is "Have I got everything right?" and secondly....do some processors have 'execution modes'? If so please give me some pointers to further information in that direction? thanks abhijeet

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Fatal Linux problem
by anand 30 Nov '01

30 Nov '01

I was trying to load a new OS. I had linux partitions in hda5 and hda7. After the OS loaded, i tried to run linux rescue from pcq linux 7.1 (linux CD from PCQ which I use as my OS). I could not rescue using standard method. Next Itried to upgrade it and I found that I could not upgrade and was getting this error An error occured reading the partition table for the block device hda. The error has logical partition of type 0 detected. then there was some such explainatory mesage. On saying Ok, it skipped the disk. Then i loaded another hard disk and I can now see that the hard disk shows hda4 which has size equal to the addition of sizes of hda5 and hda7. but it does not show hda5 and 7 in brackets. How do i retrieve my old data. there is almost twenty days of un backed up data or rather data backed up on hda7. Any clues to this problems solution? Anand

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[OT] Solutions To Cybercrime
by Aarjav Trivedi 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Hello People A friend of mine is going to attend a Model United Nations (in which Highschool age students from several countries are chosen as representatives of a nation to the Model U.N) meet in Harvard and their topic is going to be Solutions to Cybercrime. I know the topic couldn't get more cliched and that there is no absolute solution as such but can u people give some ideas on how various nations can come up with something tangible as far as tackling cybercrime on an international level is concerned. There are several tricky areas like a German court (or was it French) recently instructed yahoo to stop showing Neo Nazi auctionables in their search and Yahoo got an injunction against that from a US court. Sorry if this is way O.T, just that you guys are the few people I know who can give ideas on this. Thanks Aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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[OT] any junk dot matrix printers avaliable?
by Rahul Saxena 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

hi there, this is OT. but please dont flame, its a last resort i am using. we were planning ot make a automated land going vehicle using stepper motors from the dot matrix printers. and belts etc. it would run on the parallel port. could anyone be in the capacity to donote these printers ? actually only the steppers and belts are needed ! Please send a mail to rahulsaxon(a)yahoo.com if u can help ! thanks for reading. -rahul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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StarOffice cd
by abhijeet 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

hi does anybody on the list have a staroffice cd??? i know its up there on the site...but i don't have a very good connection and can't download it... i would appreciate if somebody could write it for me??? is the StarOffice suite on the DIGIT cd for linux??? Somebody pl. tell me about this so that i could buy the mag. ciao abhijeet

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[OT] Jobs
by Kunal Walia 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Artemis Technologies Pvt. Ltd. has various positions open for Software developers in Bombay, on a project bases, lasting over a period of December, 2001. All employees will be offered salary in the range of Rs.3000 to Rs.5000 depending on their skill level and experience. People with advanced knowledge of any one or several of the following computer skills may apply: 1.Java 2.Active Server Pages (ASP) 3.Python 4.Common Gateway Interface (CGI) 5.Structured Query Language (SQL) To apply, contact the signatory with a copy of your resume. ===== Kunal Walia, Director Phone: +91 98200 23029 E-mail:kunal_walia@yahoo.com Artemis Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Regd. Office: #116, Advocates Enclave Sector 49-A, Chandigarh 160017

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Anybody Have RH Linux 7.2 CDssss....
by Desai Ashish 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Dear Luggers, Do any body is having Red Hat Linux CDs....??? Kindly mail me...I m ready 2 pay the cost of CDs....to who, can burn CDs for me.... Reply me friends.. [Ashish] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] LUG Mailing list search engine
by Philip S Tellis 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Philip S Tellis wrote: > This version of namazu - specially customised for our > mailing list by yours truly - is available at > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/linuxers/ Sorry, the url is missing search. It should be: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/search/linuxers/ Philip

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[OT] lend me rh 7.2 cd
by Manish Jethani 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

If anyone can lend me RedHat 7.2 CDs, please mail me off list. Thanks a lot. Manish

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[Announce] LUG Mailing list search engine
by Philip S Tellis 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Ok, no one's really asked for it, but there have been complaints that suggested it was needed, and lets face it, we've all wished that the archives had a search engine. It's even on the wishlist of mailman 3.0. Well, we at Ilug-bom have beaten the mailman team. We've integrated mailman with a search engine called namazu (http://www.namazu.org/). This version of namazu - specially customised for our mailing list by yours truly - is available at http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/linuxers/ Have a look, search for your favourite stuff, don't overload the server, and give feedback. I've still got to implement a few features to provide better, more effective searches. I already know how to do this, just need some time. Philip -- Who spread garbage all over Flanders's yard before I got a chance to? -- Homer Simpson Two Dozen and One Greyhounds Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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linux tech for india
by Apu Shah 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

dear linuxers, there have been several writeups, discussions, conferences, seminars etc. etc. about how linux is the os for india. yes, this is true due to the various factors that favor linux over other os and give linux a compelling argument. let's leave aside economic, social and political issues in support of linux for india. the question i would like to pose to the group is what *technical* innovations do know of that are propelling the cause of linux for india. the biggest one is of course, localization. there are efforts ongoing in this area which i know of namely ncst, iitm and indlinux. some other examples that i can think of are - simputer, dhvani (the text to speech engine for indian languages) - simputer, tapatap (the pen based computing libraries) - ncst/iitm's work on localization of linux - work on universal networking language and language independent forms. for research purposes i am trying to compile a list of all such initiative that are going on in the linux world specifically to help india. i know that there must be several localized software development projects, font development projects, e-governance projects etc. etc. that are specific to india. if you have any references of such companies/projects/work i would appreciate it if you could send a link/email address. actually even technical work done to further the cause of linux in "developing nations" would be interesting. thanks much. apu shah, research associate, media labs asia

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KDE 2.2.2 and linux patch 2.4.16-pre1
by Ravindra Jaju 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Hi all. KDE 2.2.2 sources, and RH-7.2 RPMs are on db.ilug-bom.org.in The resources have been moved to proper sub-directories. Also, note that you should not use the 2.4.15 release of the kernel, as it has a file-system corruption bug. In case you are planning to use the latest one, try 2.4.16-pre1. It's also uploaded on db.ilug-bom. regards, jaju

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reading word files through your email client
by Philip S Tellis 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

It seems that this mail never made it through the first time, so I am resending it. I've written a small script that can be run through your mailcap file. It uses wvWare and lynx/netscape to view word files through your mail program (pine, mutt, netscape, anything that uses mailcap). The script is at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/lug-authors/philip/bin/ and a mirror on my downloads page (ncst/~philip/downloads/). Instructions are in the file. You'll have to make it executable and copy it to /usr/local/bin/ before you can use it. Philip -- "I know Kung Fu." "Show me." -- Neo and Morpheus, "The Matrix" Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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Help wanted with running X on Trident Blade XP card
by Navin 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

hi guys, i just switched to a Trident Blade XP AGP card with 32 MB of VRAM. i was running RH 7.1 on a SiS 6215 earlier, and had managed to configure X to run pretty well. i tried to get X to run on the new card using xf86config. since it is not listed i chose Blade 3D which i thought was the nearest. this uses the 'trident' driver. but it gave me an error and quit. ive attached the relevant parts of /var/log/ XFree86.0.log. plz do tell me of any workarounds or drivers available for solving my problem Navin

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::Any body has quake cd::
by Navin Dhanuka 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

Hi, If u have Q.u.a.k.e. CD. Please contact me offlist. Navin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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BSD IPC Vs SysV IPC ???
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

Thanks guys, But I'm not sure whether Richard Stevens actually compares or gives details of BSD IPC or not... Anyway, thanks for your reply, I'll again go through Richard Stevens. Is there any online reference / e-book for the same topic??? If yes, pls. forward me the URL Thanks, Kunal

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Using one ISP account to serve many users - requested at meet
by Philip S Tellis 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Please note, that I have only tried this once, and it worked with my system under the test conditions at that time. There is no guarantee that it will work under real life situations. I'm not going to go into the full details of the sendmail configuration file, you can find out about that from the many sendmail howtos available. What you need are these (in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc): FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') FEATURE(`virtusertable', `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') Then, in /etc/mail/genericstable (no .db), add this: @localhost.localdomain realuser+%1(a)yourisp.com In /etc/mail/virtusertable (no .db), add this: realuser+*(a)yourisp.com %2(a)localhost.localdomain replace localhost.localdomain with the name of your local mail server. now, in /etc/mail/, either run make (if you have a makefile in there), or do: % makemap hash genericstable.db < genericstable % makemap hash virtusertable.db < virtusertable Restart sendmail. Now, I'm assuming that you're using fetchmail to get mail from your ISP's account. In that case, you could set up fetchmail to use multidrop, but that is very complicated, and prone to mail loops and undelivered mail. Instead, I'd suggest telling fetchmail to forward mail to procmail (both running as root), or let sendmail use procmail as the default mailer. Then, have procmail decide who the mail should go to. If you use sendmail to call procmail, then you can check $1 in the procmailrc file to find out what was passed after the + sign, so you can have a rule like this: :0 To: realuser+$1 !$1(a)localhost.localdomain You'll have to try these things and tweak around a bit to see what works, but when you do get it working right, post your procedure to the group. I'm sure there are other solutions, and products that make it much easier to do this thing, but the basic problems I see with trying to serve many users with a single mailbox, is that if mail is addressed to two users (eg: tellis+philip(a)vsnl.net and tellis+santosh(a)vsnl.net), there will only be one mail in the mailbox. I have no idea what sendmail will do with the addresses, and how you will sort them. Also, if the address is in the bcc field, then forget it. You'll have to write a separate rule for the Cc: field. One last thing. When you get this working, tell you users to set their email address as localuser(a)localhost.localdomain, and to tell everyone outside the company that their address is realuser+localuser(a)yourisp.com Hope this helps. I really really hope. Philip -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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db.ilug-bom.org.in - Nagarjuna
by Ritesh H Shukla 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Hi, Can I help with DB website? I could uploas the 2.4.15 kernel and the kde 2.2.2 source rpm etc etc.. -Ritesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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BSD IPC vs Sys V IPC ???
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Hi there, Can someone tell me what is the difference in BSD IPC & traditional Sys V IPC which is followed in Linux??? Any reference for above question will also do. Thanks, Kunal

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linux device drivers
by abhijeet 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

hi if anybody's about to buy Allessandro Rubini's Linux Device Drivers this is for you... the book has been released under GNU Free Documentation License and is available at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive2/chapter/book in the HTML format...other formats are also available.....just check it out. for people who haven't heard of it ...well its a good place to begin kernel hacking... i just bought it for Rs.300/- from cbs.:-( and i find this link in it !!@$@$#%#^ Please mail all condolences to my personal addie. ciao abhijeet

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Weird boots: kernel? FS?
by Satya 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

So sometimes hal9k boots, sometimes doesn't. Symptoms: fsck required. Sometimes. I just took a look at the logs. Sometimes there are perfectly normal boots. Sometimes things like: Nov 21 09:52:56 hal9k depmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/ipv4/ip_masq_mfw.o: unresolved symbol(s) (That's just one example.) show up. During the same boot (I think. The system log timestamp is also screwed up during booting -- it starts booting with the correct time, jumps around, and finishes booting with the correct time), I see this: Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /dev/hda5 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /dev/hda5: Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: E Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ntry Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ' Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: l Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: o Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: g Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ' in Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: / Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: d Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: e Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: v Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ) Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: has Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: Adding Swap: 514040k swap-space (priority -1) Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: Adding Swap: 60440k swap-space (priority -2) Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_free_inode: bit already cleared for inode 40458 Nov 21 09:53:10 hal9k crond: crond startup succeeded Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: deleted Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /unused Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: inode Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: 40458 Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: . Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: CLEARED. Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /dev/hda5: 9176/78312 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 129528/313236 blocks hda5 is the root FS. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Pound forehead on keyboard to continue.

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Fw: multisession cdwriting
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

I am using pcqlinux 7.1 w/ a Samsung 304 combo cdrw/dvd drive. X-cdroast works quite well but does not support multisesion cds. I downloaded the latest cdrecord 1.10. I have read the cdwriting howto, and the README.multi file. I followed the instruction in the latter file to the letter but came up against a wall. Though cdrecord claims that the burn of the subsequent tracks is *good* I am unable to see the tracks on the cd. Both my cdrom & cdrw drives are capable of reading multisession cds. I found similar references on the suse list (sometime in Jan 2001), I wrote to the op and he wrote back that he had given up trying after he got no answers. I wrote to Jorg Schilling and he replied w/ a terse one liner saying that I have hit a kernel bug and he can't help me. I dug around in his website and it seems that he is plenty sore at not having his sg (scsi) driver included in the kernel (even goes to almost calling Alan Cox a nepotist -- but this is ot). He seems to have washed his hands off trynig to make cdrecord run w/ a 2.4 kernel. He mentions some patches for 2.0 & 2.2 trees but nothing for 2.4. Has anybody managed to burn multisesson cds ? If you have, can you please tell me your cdrecord and kernel version and the exact command line for it. Cdrecord barfs at this command: cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0 and the kernel goes berserk, kfmclient seems to be spawning over and over again literally hundreds of times. (I wonder if this is even related ?) regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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KDE 2.2.2 on db.ilug-bom.org pls
by Ritesh H Shukla 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

Hi, This is regarding ILUG's plan to upload important files to the DB site... Could you please include the KDE 2.2.2 source/rpm/srpm on it so that we can download that faster and avoid loading the main ftp site.. Also can the link be posted....ie the exact url i guess its db.ilug-bom.org. Has any one upgraded their KDE from the net..?? How did you guys go about cause I am facing some problems with srpms from their main site... some dependency probs... any tips will be greatly appreciated.. -Ritesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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