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Wiki CDs Wanted page is protected
by Easwar Hariharan 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi I understand that the CDs Wanted page has been protected due to repeated vandalism by bots from the WWW.When is it likely to be opened up?And since the wiki is based on the wikimedia engine,can't we have semi-protection allowing registered accounts to edit the page?After all,if one has no need of the CD posted earlier,(s)he should be able to remove the request. Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065 PS:I also understand the CDs Wanted page hardly sees any traffic from list members,and only unwanted attention from spam bots,still can we have the page back?

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Wiki CDs Wanted page is protected
by Easwar Hariharan 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi I understand that the CDs Wanted page has been protected due to repeated vandalism by bots from the WWW.When is it likely to be opened up?And since the wiki is based on the wikimedia engine,can't we have semi-protection allowing registered accounts to edit the page?After all,if one has no need of the CD posted earlier,(s)he should be able to remove the request. Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065 PS:I also understand the CDs Wanted page hardly sees any traffic from list members,and only unwanted attention from spam bots,still can we have the page back?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pravin Dhayfule 31 May '09

31 May '09

> > I had registered my grievance at the Consumer Online Resource & Empowerment > Centre (http://www.ccccore.co.in/ or http://www.core.nic.in/). Let's see > what happens. > Core indeed works.... However you need to do much than that. I had been cheated by ICICI Lombard people in similar fashion. They sold me Health insurance through phone, and told me that its applicable only on credit card. Fearing hidden costs, I told them I dont want to pay through credit card, but they insisted that there wont be any other charges apart from Premium and service charge.... Eventually I realized that they converted my 20K premium to EMIs and started charding me EMI.... On calling them they denied of not making me aware of EMI. When asked for cancellation of Policy, they demanded 70% of the premium as cancellation charge. I launched a complaint with Core.nic.in and also sent a mail t ICICI Lombard grievence department demanding the recording of my call with Lombard during the time of purchase... They retrived the recording and as I said they realized that I was not made aware of EMI. Finally they agreed to cancel the policy and gave me complete refund along with Service charges. *Now here's what you can do... Call up Reliance and ask them to provide you the recording of the telephonic conversation between you and the executive where he/she assured you about the FREE service. If they deny launch a compliant stating that you are not provided information. If RTI act covers telecom, then go ahead and file RTI suit against them.* *I was told that my money is gone, but I got it back. You just need patience and right move. All the best.* Bye Regards

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Wireless internet, choice of
by Ashok Sinha 31 May '09

31 May '09

Anyone willing to suggest which wireless internet (USB) I should consider - I am going to be in Pune (Camp area) - Using linux on laptop ie. linux comaptibility - Using XP on desktop - Speed not important - No limitation of download preferred. - Would be happy to spend Rs 750 pm or so. - Would travel occasionally Thanks -- Ashok Sinha

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Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pankaj Jangid 31 May '09

31 May '09

Hi, After much research I purchased a Reliance Netconnect broadband but to discover there pathetic customer care. I have written a my experience on my livejournal blog, http://jangid.livejournal.com/27778.html, so that others are not cheated. Pasting it here for readers' convenience. /* I had applied for Reliance Netconnect plus wireless internet service on 23rd of March. And that was the last day for getting the 2 month bundled unlimited usage (10GB) free; that is worth Rs 3500. The next day I have got a call from RCOM that I am eligible for this offer. The official also asked me if I would like to see a demonstration of the wireless device. I said yes and after seeing the demo, at my home, I agreed to purchase this. I paid Rs 3500 to the dealer for the device on 04/04/2009. I got the device and connection was enabled. Everything was good. The problem begins. Contrary to my belief that I'll get Rs 0 bill for the first two months, at end of the first month I have got a bill, of Rs 383, from RCOM. The bill amount should have been Rs 0. I have registered a complaint with them. I haven't got any response. Instead I am getting regular calls from RCOM for non payment of bills. Every time I get a call I tell them the full story. And each official agreed to resolve my issue. Now one day I planned to visit my native place, Jaipur, to meet my parents. I was hoping that my business/work will not suffer because I can work remotely using the device I purchased from RCOM. I reached Jaipur and discovered that my internet is not working. I called up the toll free number of RCOM (1 800 3000 5555) and learnt from the official that my connection is deactivated due to non payment of bill. @#$#$%&%. I also learnt that a new bill is also generated for the second month. The second bill is of Rs 1125. Again the bill amount should have been Rs 0. I again registered a complained. I was told that the problem will be resolved in 24 hours. I had registered my grievance at the Consumer Online Resource & Empowerment Centre (http://www.ccccore.co.in/ or http://www.core.nic.in/). Let's see what happens. */ Do forward this to your friends who are deciding to buy a wireless device for an internet connection. -- Thanks & Regards Pankaj <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/frank_lloyd_wright.html>

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[OT] New Wireless Broadband USB Modems.
by Rony 30 May '09

30 May '09

Hello, Reliance and Tata Indicom have now come out with USB modems that provide broadband speeds theoretically upto 3.1 Mbps in major cities with National low speed roaming in other areas. A client of mine told me that his friend uses a Reliance one and clocked upto 1.5 Mbps on it. Reliance promo emails mention peak hour speeds between 512K and 1Mbps. Tata also provides a wireless router that talks wirelessly to the tower and provides a wired+wireless LAN for the office. MTNL and BSNL broadband are getting competition. Great! Now use your note/netbooks for video conferencing on the move. No more linesman telling you that your modem or wiring is bad. Is this the 3G thing by the back door before the licenses are issued or something in between, before 3G makes a big bang? Will 3G bring in something even newer? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Which is the cheapest hand-held available?
by Deboo 29 May '09

29 May '09

Which is the cheapest / low-cost hand-held computer (not mobile phone) available which even a por man anywhere in India can buy with little money? If it can run linux, great.

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Installing open office 3
by Ashok Sinha 29 May '09

29 May '09

So I down loaded the RPM package (a tra.gz file) of Oo3. Unpzipped it in a new folder named Open office in my Downloads folder. I double clicked Setup. Got an error msg that Java is not installed. Now what? -- Ashok Sinha

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[OT] Triband clocks 22Mbps.....No kidding.
by Rony 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hello, Today at one place I was amazed to see triband going out of control. DVDs getting downloaded in one hour, large files in minutes. It was an unlimited 512 Kbps scheme but was overclocking. In between it would come down to 600 to 700 KBytes per second, otherwise it was above 1 MBytes per sec. It was the AT&T server connection (username@a). While this utopia is in bloom since a week or two and may last a few days more, It shows that our telephone lines are capable of giving 22 Mbps which I actually saw in the new D-Link modem stats. Upload 1 Mbps and download max. 22 Mbps. Seeing is believing. Gosh! MTNL when will you open your tap to full? We could be on a virtual LAN and share files with each other just like the cablewalas do in some areas. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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equivalent of icponfig on widoze
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 28 May '09

28 May '09

I am using Hathway cable internet where they bind your ip settings to your pc. If I unplug the lan cable from the pc and plug it into my laptop, I cannot browse. They are using some sort of dhcp with a static ip (I know that sounds funny - but that's what they say). When I called the helpdesk, they said what I need to do is release the ip from my machine and then renew it on my laptop. something like ipcfg release and then ipcfg renew. The guy obviously has no clue how to do it in linux. What would be the equivalent in linux. I am using debian 5 and kubuntu 9.04 on the two machines. Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.

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Installing open office 3
by Ashok Sinha 28 May '09

28 May '09

I am running linpus linux which is based on fedora core and would like to know if it is possible to ver 3 of open office. I was checking there was a version for RPM and another for Debian. Which one should I download? -- Ashok Sinha

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pankaj Jangid 28 May '09

28 May '09

True. Talking to them for the same problem again and again is more painful then spending a day without internet.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pankaj Jangid 28 May '09

28 May '09

But there was no alternative available in the market. There is BSNL but they do not cover Delhi. MTNL is not providing data connections; only some value added services over 3G. I am regreting the decision and again.

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Linux OS Inoperable
by SUBHASH UDIAVAR 27 May '09

27 May '09

Hi everybody, I was introduced by Anurag, after finding out his mail in the open forum while surfing the Net to set my problem. He had suggested to be part of the mailing list which I have done, however the site refuses to open up for me for unknown reasons repeatedly stating that the the username and/or password is incorrect dspite inputtting the correct details.I have experienced a snag on my desktop which is loaded with a LINUX OS way back in 2005. In fact, the OS was installed by my friend who is terribly sick and I feel it indecent to call him for this, we are in the late fifties. One would be wondering as to what I was doing all these years, Yes, I was operating my WIN XP Pro thru the laptop which I have carried to almost all cities in India and a couple of times abroad when on duty tour. Now I am a relaxed and retired guy. This Linux OS is installed on a pc having Athlon CPU on a Asus motherboard. I used to use the PC for as much as 5 years prior to my friend installing the Linux OS on the same PC with XP home and the other day after opening the desktop I had to update all the MS prog and you well know it took me almost 5 hours, maybe more to download and install. The switch provided by my friend, a toggle switch to 'switchover' from the XP to Linux ( after shutting off the PC) and I saw it is working fine as when in a particular direction the OS switches either to XP or Linux. On opening the Linux OS I found after booting which must be taking less than a minute or slightly more faced with a login page. I appreciate my friend that he has mentioned both my login ID and password within the Linux symbol for ease of use and on punching these details the 'login failed' pops up. As I am new I was wondering if you could help in solvingin starting my Linux OS. Something like disabling the login itself or in the least to reprogram the login dialogue. Please remember- *I am a novice as far as PCs go *and use it mostly to surf,mail and IM etc. Trust I have contacted the correct persons for the advice. Grateful if one of you could help me out. Thanks and regards SBUdiavar *PS: Could somebody post this on the forum page please as I can not do it due to login prob I'm facing in the ILUG site. Thnx.*

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[X-POST] Call for "I Know What You Are Going To Do This Summer 2009"
by Kushal Das 25 May '09

25 May '09

Hi all, We are happy to announce "I Know What You Are Going To Do This Summer 2009",[1] a free (as in freedom), online (IRC-based) [2] training sessions for wannabes to Free/Libre/Open Source Software at #dgplug on irc.freenode.net [3]. If you are a mentor, or trainer, or prospective enthusiast who would like to participate in this years' sessions please go through last years' IRC logs: http://www.dgplug.org/irclogs/ We will have a review or Q&A session on last years' sessions before we proceed into new topics, this year. The session timings are mostly varying, usually after 1900 IST every day. If you are interested in participating, please confirm your participation by sending an off-list mail to me (kushaldas AT gmail DOT com). Poster: http://kushaldas.in/tmp/summer_training-small.png URL: http://dgplug.org/intro/ Planet: http://planet.dgplug.org/ Wiki: http://wiki.dgplug.org/ Mailing list group (for queries, discussions): http://lists.dgplug.org/listinfo.cgi/users-dgplug.org [1] http://wiki.dgplug.org/index.php/SummerTraining09 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo Regards, Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in

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[OT] Net PC catching on...
by Rony 24 May '09

24 May '09

Hello, Finally with broadband speeds improving, the concept of a low cost thin client net pc seems to be catching on. http://www.domain-b.com/companies/companies_b/Bharti_Tele-Ventures/20090523… -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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avsap is back
by Kenneth Gonsalves 23 May '09

23 May '09

hi, I have updated avsap to run on the wxPython 2.8.9.1. It is available here: svn co https://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/helpline/branches/avsap avsap for those who do not know the history of avsap, it was used in production for several years by some clients of mine, was first released in perl and then later ported to python. Unfortunately in 2003, installation was extremely difficult as cool things like yum and apt-get were not there. Since not one of the thousand or so people who downloaded it was successful in installing it, I got fed up and stopped maintaining it. I will maintain and develop it if a few people show interest in using it. I think it is the only accounting software in India available in so many Indian languages (and Italian too). For this reason I have not set up a mailing list or any other support infrastructure. You may mail me if you have questions. I have changed the license to the BSD license. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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OSALT for Tally?
by Pravin Dhayfule 22 May '09

22 May '09

Hi Folks, Am building a list of Applications to be presented as OSAlt (Open Source Alternatives) to frequently used commercial applications. Some of my accountant friends asked me one single question, and am finding answer for it: "Do you have anything for Tally that will work on Linux?" Since I am not from financial background and never used Tally, I didnt find a proper answer. Through Search Engine I did come across GnuCash, but dont know how it compares to Tally. Has anyone used it, so that I can lay out points on transitioning from Tally to GnuCash or any other OpenSource/Free Alternative to Tally. Bye Regards

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally?
by Pravin Dhayfule 20 May '09

20 May '09

> > Yeah I got your point. Indeed by transitioning I mean to say for a fresh setup for users who are familiar to tally. For example a new firm who has decided to go for Open Source Platform, this can be recommended to them: 1. Desktop Linux as Operating system (Open Suse, Ubuntu, Fedora etc.) 2. Open Office as Office Application 3. Lots of inbuilt tools in Linux corresponding to the tools for similar activities in Paid OS 4. GNU Cash, GNU Khata, AVSAP or any Open Source financial Application if the firm needs accounting software. There's always a quest to learn new things, so enthusiastic and optimistic people may not hesitate to tryout these new applications. Bye Regards > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Indranil Das Gupta <indradg(a)gmail.com> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:55:46 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally? > Hi Pravin, > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Pravin Dhayfule <dhayfule(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > <snipped> > > > Has anyone used it, so that I can lay out points on transitioning from > Tally > > to GnuCash or any other OpenSource/Free Alternative to Tally. > > Not nitpicking, but have you used the word "transitioning" thoughtfully? > > Accounting / workflow / ERP software are not just software that works, > they create and manage data. So, if you actually *mean* migration, you > may first want to take a look at the data export / migration options > from your existing prop. package, rather than anything else. > > So, if your existing data can't be exported the "migration" project > may entirely fail, as it is not usually feasible to re-enter years or > even months of existing business data into the new system. And AFAIK, > tally uses some sort of prop. data storage schema which is neither > open nor documented. You may not face this problem if you are starting > out the accounting practise at a new firm / company with zero backlog. > > hth > -indra > > > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally?
by scrapo＠saswatabanerjee.com 20 May '09

20 May '09

Sorry, openerp / tinyerp does not come up as anternate to tally. Tally is a simple accounting software not constrained by erp norms like data authenticity, audit trails, interlocking controls and even data integrety. Openerp is a much more complex software and not a substitute for tally. In the normal sense, an erp is mot an accounting software. Its much more. And due to that it can't take place of accounting software. It will only work where the users WANT something much more than accounting. Saswata -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> Subj: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally? Date: Mon May 18, 2009 6:22 pm Size: 587 bytes To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> On Monday 18 May 2009 17:43:31 Pravin Dhayfule wrote: > Since I am not from financial background and never used Tally, I didnt find > a proper answer. Through Search Engine I did come across GnuCash, but dont > know how it compares to Tally. it does not > > Has anyone used it, so that I can lay out points on transitioning from > Tally to GnuCash or any other OpenSource/Free Alternative to Tally. check the archives of this group for openERP/tinyERP -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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positions available at NRC-FOSS
by Kenneth Gonsalves 20 May '09

20 May '09

hi, http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/full/66/AN/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Thanks a Lot Everybody
by Pravin Dhayfule 19 May '09

19 May '09

Hi Folks, Thanks a lot for answering my query with enthusiasm. I am looking forward to try Gnu Khata. Also for Kenneth's message: On Tuesday 19 May 2009 11:43:00 Pravin Dhayfule wrote: >* However I also came across http://avsap.sourceforge.net/ through Google. * dont - it is not maintained. Although I would be thrilled if you came forward to maintain it ;-) -- I would like to maintain it, if its matter of maintaining the website. Similar to GNU Khata are there any more software developed by the members of this mailing list. Would love to know about them, so that I can build a repository to share them through my site www.dhayfule.com Bye Regards On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM, <linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in>wrote: > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-owner(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Pravin Dhayfule) > 2. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Kenneth Gonsalves) > 3. Re: OSALT for Tally? (anusha k) > 4. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Kenneth Gonsalves) > 5. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Krishnakant) > 6. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Rajeev R. K.) > 7. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Mehul Ved) > 8. Re: OSALT for Tally? (Krishnakant) > 9. Re: feedback on gnu-khata was OSALT for Tally? > (Kenneth Gonsalves) > >

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OT - Web designer/developer requirement
by Richard Correia 19 May '09

19 May '09

Hi, We are looking for a web designer, who can design (GUI) CSS based websites. We are also looking for a PHP developer with 3 years of experience. Please contact me on richard.correia(a)zizatech.com Thanks, Richard Correia ZiZaTech.com +91 9764287004

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally?
by Pravin Dhayfule 19 May '09

19 May '09

Hi Folks, Thanks a lot for the inputs. These discussions really helped me a lot. I am now looking forward towards GNU Khata. However I also came across http://avsap.sourceforge.net/ through Google. I will try both of them. Bye Regards

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Difference on EXT2 and EXT3 filesystems
by george＠annamsoft.com 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hi ALL, Please tell the major differences between the EXT2 and EXT3 file systems. Which one is more reliable and why? Regards, George John.

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