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Any experiences with fs other than ext3?
by Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक] 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hello LUG Members, I want to try XFS on my home system. I have read some articles saying XFS is faster than Ext3 but Less reliable than it. So, I would like to read your experiences about FSs other than Ext3. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar Learn to appreciate a beauty within...

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[X-post] Request to provide input on Sahana mobile application on Openmoko
by Ajay Kumar 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hi All, I am trying to collect data to include in my report as a part of research and preliminary analysis for my project. So I request you all to kindly take out time to fill up the survey that I have created here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pWeVl6IM9h6UKAGOx231pFA I highly urge you to complete the survey in full and help me with the research. Any inputs and suggestions are welcome. Thanks & Regards, Ajay Kumar http://ajuonline.net

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[COMMERCIAL] OSI Tech Days 2009: Showcase your expertise (AND, that of your firm)
by Atanu Datta 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

Hi all! This is further to our 'Call for Papers' for Open Source India Tech Days 2009, which is to be held at Chennai Trade Center (Chennai) from 12th to 14th March 2009. Thanks to your encouraging response, we have managed to finalise a few speakers, and draw up the plans for daily seminars. However, we have received many submissions that do not match the goals of various seminars. Thus, we plan to share the exact topics that have been finalised for each seminar (one-by-one). We hope that this effort will result in a better match between the talks and the speaker submissions. Needless to say, this can be a great opportunity for FOSS firms (and consultants) to show-case their talent to an all-India audience. So, if you or your firm has expertise in any of the topics (mentioned below), please feel free to register yourself, or nominate someone else at www.osidays.com. Looking forward to your support in building an Open Source event that we all can be proud of. Best, Atanu Datta On behalf of Open Source India Team DETAILS: THE SEMINAR AND THE TOPICS *********************************** The seminar: FOSS For Everyone Date: 14th March, 2009 (Saturday) Venue: Chennai Trade Centre Highlights: This will be our most popular session, when we expect a 1000+ audience to fill the main hall of Chennai Trade Centre. TOPICS FOR WHICH WE SEEK SPEAKERS #1) Panel discussion: Career trends for IT Professionals WE SEEK: Senior personnel (Operations, HR, etc) of major IT firms who aggressively recruit IT professionals, especially those from the open source domain. We would like to get their perspectives on the demand for open source professionals in India. #2) Panel discussion: Linux Distros WE SEEK: Experts / community representatives for Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva, OpenSuSE, and Debian. We would like them to highlight the key features of their distros and to share the future roadmap (if possible) with the audience. #3) Panel discussion: Office Applications WE SEEK: Experts / community representatives for office productivity solutions like OpenOffice.org, Firefox and Thunderbird, Evolution, etc. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SUGGEST MORE SUCH SOLUTIONS. We would like these speakers to highlight the key features of their solutions and to share the future roadmap (if possible) with the audience. NOTE: We will shortly share with you the details of another seminar.

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DVD OR CD? Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released
by jitendra 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

SOME ONE IS STARTING DVD (4) DOWNLOAD. THERE ARE 15 CDs hope others are not as confused as I am

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FTP Problem !
by IPS Khurana 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

hi i am setting up ftp server on my Ubuntu Desktop PureAdmin Ftp GUI Server Pure Ftpd i have made a user in PureAdmin, when i connect through client Filezilla, user connects..but then it shows error 530 Authen failed. i had made user in PureAdmin Gui Ftp server, should i also make same user in Ubuntu Users & Groups Console also, what rights should i give.. can some one pls reply in details thanks n rgds -- IPS Khurana ***************************** Cell No: +91 9869019416 Khurana Sales & Services Distributors & Wholesellers Total IT Solutions! Thane http://ipskhurana.googlepages.com/ Computers | Networks | Office Automation | Security Systems | Repairs & Maintenance Proud to be Member of BNI ! The World's Largest Referral Organization ! Turning Contacts into Contracts ! http://www.bni-india.com http://www.bni.com Get Free Ubuntu Desktop OS CD! http://www.ubuntu.com

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allowing restricted sites via squid
by sameer shinde 14 Feb '09

14 Feb '09

Hi All, We are using squid along with squidguard to block the websites. Now due to company policy we've blocked all the email sites with squidguard blacklist, wherein we've also blocked gmail.google.com Now, our company has purchesed domain name specific mail address from google. for example mail.ourdomain.com, wherein if anyone types mail.ourdomain.com it will be redirected to ourdoman specific gmail. The problem here is as squidguard is blocking gmail.google.com and which is inturn backbehind mail.ourdomain.com, the users are not able to access that site. What we want to do now is, we still want to block gmail access, but if someone goes thru mail.ourdomain.com, then he should get the access to gmail. How can we achieve this? Few more bits about our squid. It is configured in non-transperant mode. i.e. we mannually provide the proxy to users. Also its in non-authentication mode. i.e. it does not checks for username/password. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by steve＠lonetwin.net 14 Feb '09

14 Feb '09

Hi there, > Have you created an account on Linkedin without having to reveal the > original password for the email id that is used as the username as well > as prevent them from snooping into your contacts list? If so, your tips > could help others from making mistakes like using their original email > password. > Huh ? Guys what the hell are you talking about ? Of course, you can do that ! All the sites that i've ever been too which allow you to import contact information have that as a 'optional' step. You don't *have* to reveal the original password for any email id. Agreed, the way the login workflow proceeds and is presented makes you think that it is an required step, but it isn't ! Try any of the social networking sites (including linkedin). You always have an option to /not/ automatically import your contacts. > However from the link provided by the OP, I was taken to a login page > asking me for an email id as username and a password. I checked out the > join today link for new users and there they ask for an email id and > password. The privacy terms also state that among the information they > will collect will be the email id and a password. For some reason they > are not clear about the password, if it is the original or another one > for the linkedin site. That is a gray area. This is the exact statement ... "When you register an account to become a LinkedIn user (?User?), such as your name, e-mail, country, location, occupation and a password." ..../a/ password is a gray area ?? I would've felt if they wanted to make it grey they would have said "/the/ password". >> The interesting thing is that while there is an agreement (in LinkedIn >> privacy policy) not to sell his email id to a spammer, there is nothing >> that prevents LinkedIn from selling your id to the spammer. An >> interesting view that I had not considered till I got this email. FUD ! from their privacy policy: -------------------------------------- Contacts Information In order to invite others to connect with you directly in LinkedIn, you may use the LinkedIn services to invite them if they are a User, or enter their names and email addresses. This information will be used by LinkedIn to send your invitation including a message that you write. The names and email addresses of people that you invite will be used only to send your invitation and reminders. You may also choose to manually enter or upload data about your contacts into the private ?My contacts? section of the LinkedIn website. You may not invite anyone to connect with you whom you do not know. *****All information entered there will only be viewable by you and will not be searchable by others in the LinkedIn network without your permission. All information that you enter or upload about your contacts will be covered by the same terms of this privacy policy as cover your own information.***** -------------------------------------- > Guys who are well connected by phone, mobile and internet are a general > nuisance and a security hazard for the computer systems, especially > doze. They spend more time staying connected than doing any serious > work. I have seen such guys in different offices. hmm ...so, the implication is that the people on linkedin are a nuisance, ehe ? I guess, these guys fit the bill, right ? http://www.linkedin.com/in/linustorvalds http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/a37/2a Ok, why am i getting so riled up about ? Well, unsubstantiated ranting and sweeping generalization is just as bad as ignorance. So, all you guys screaming at n00bs and saying stuff like ... >>> I hope your machine gets slammed >>> with some virus that destroys all data. And I really hope your >>> prospective professional employer sees this this post of mine and that >>> leaves you perennial unemployed. ...are just as annoying as the n00bs. You can choose to be civil about it, but you don't ! gah ! cheers, - steve

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Amiya Sahoo 13 Feb '09

13 Feb '09

LinkedIn ------------ GNU/Linux, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Amiya Learn more: https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/478889037/d5E8nKRc/ ------------------------------------------ What is LinkedIn and why should you join? http://learn.linkedin.com/what-is-linkedin/ ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation

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Kmail nuking mails
by Kenneth Gonsalves 13 Feb '09

13 Feb '09

Hi, I have a folder in kmail with some read messages and some unread messages. The last read message is blank. No subject, no sender, no date and no content. If this is deleted, the next mail also vanishes - no subject, sender, date and content. And if it is deleted same thing happens to the next one. But if I do not delete the 'no subject' mail, I can read the next mail and so on. All the other folders are ok. How would one go about debugging this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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antivirus in ubuntu linux
by sameer shinde 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

Hi All, Which is a best antivirus in untubu linux? I'm running squid proxy-server on my ubuntu server I want all the web requests tobe scanned by antivirus for any virus/malware infection and then pass to the user. Which antivirus package can help me in this? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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Fwd: [ubuntu-in] Open Source at Thadomal Shahani Engineering College, Mumbai. 6-7 March
by Mehul Ved 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Prakash Advani <prakash(a)canonical.com> Date: Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM Subject: [ubuntu-in] Open Source at Thadomal Shahani Engineering College, Mumbai. 6-7 March To: Ubuntu India Local Community <ubuntu-in(a)lists.ubuntu.com> Cc: Comet Media <cometmediafdn(a)gmail.com> *If you are interesting in helping at this event please write to Ms. Chandita at cometmediafdn(a)gmail.com Concept Note* /yuva vividha:a festival of learning with ICTs/ Learning through living... Lifelong learning... Learning Communities 6 to 7 March, 2009 at Thadomal Shahani Engineering College 37th Road, Off Linking Road, (Near National College), Bandra West, Mumbai 400 050 *Introduction* The college years are a time where values, competencies and knowledge for the future are nurtured in the young. Information and Communication Technologies or ICTs which have arisen from a convergence of personal computers and the Internet have come, in the last decade or so, to play a vital role in how people live, learn and work. This has opened up a range of new career possibilities for software professionals. This festival will introduce young engineering students to many professional avenues that ICTs make possible, through demonstrations and hands-on activities, presentations, workshops and interactions with established professionals. The exposure will enable them to get the big picture and to draw on the experiences of experts and organisations to map their own journeys towards higher education and a career based on information technology. *Objectives * * To introduce Free Software and gain knowledge of its multi-dimensional aspects and applications. * To make youth aware that ICTs make it possible for individuals to aspire to a professional identity based on personal preferences rather than going for available job slots. * To learn how ICTs can enhance learning processes such as using the Internet for classroom activities and to conduct collaborative research assignments. * Spaces for participation* *Interactive corners:* * interactive corners with hands-on activities * cultural displays such as multimedia, music and films on ICT related subjects. * ICTS and U: interactive seminar on careers in ICTs *Interactive seminar:* A series of exposures for young people to a range of career choices for effective planning and evolution of their professional identities. Employers and professionals in various fields will be invited to speak. Students can get a feel of the kind of work they could do, what compensation they can expect and the preparation needed for those careers in interactive sessions following the presentations. *Interactive workshops:* Workshops around specific topics not offered in the regular curriculum, to enhance skills and show new perspectives. These would be suggested by the college authorities. Some current suggestions which can only be finalised when resource people are located. *Interactive corners:* * SciLab. * Ubuntu demos. * Edubuntu demos. * Graphic Design with GIMP and Inkscape. * Audio recording and editing with Audacity * Laying out a page with Scribus. * Video editing with Film GIMP. *Interactive seminar:* * What is Free Software and why do we need to know it? * GNU-Linux desktop is now ready for you: Prakash Advani. * Possible career options of Free Software also known as Open Source.. * Migrating to Free Software is a breeze: Lajpat Dhingra. * Creating project reports using Latex: Anusha Kadambala. * Relating Free Software to the Bombay University curriculum. * Free Software and the future. *Interactive workshops of two days, parallel sessions:* * LAMP the pillars of web technology. * Web technology using Python. * Networking in GNU-Linux. * Java Basic and Java Advanced. * Mobile computing in J2ME. *Interactive workshops of half day, parallel sessions:* * Someone to introduce PyGame programming * Someone to introduce Gnash beginning with the concept of designing interactive web animation pages * Someone with knowledge of UML diagrams with free software tools such as BOUML, Umbrello, ArgoUML -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in(a)lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- I'd horsewhip you if I had a horse. -- Groucho Marx

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foss manifesto
by Suhit Kelkar 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

Most government guys in charge of IT contract allocation don't have a clue about FOSS. Otherwise they have misconceptions about the user-friendliness and installation etc. In the opinion of the forum, should the draft manifesto have screenshots, snippets of disambiguation about the FOSS desktop etc? Suhit Kelkar.

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foss manifesto
by Suhit Kelkar 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

Hi, I think this is a well-written beginning and could do with some hard facts and case studies of FOSS adoption in India. What do you guys think? Suhit Kelkar.

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Internet problems
by Sanjay Singhvi 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

Dear All, Having a problem with getting the network with my MTNL modem through ethernet. I might add that I have MTNL ethernet modems (ADSL) in my home, my office and my father's office. However, though DHCP is enabled on all three, my laptop (Acer Aspire One) does not seem able to connect at any of the three. When I ask for a new connection after connecting the wire (the wire gets detected so I don't get the "no carrier" message) I get the state of device eth0 as "ip configuration" by hovering the cursor over the icon of Knetworkmanager. The ehternet light lights up on the router and the little light at the ethernet point on my laptop also lights up. So I think the cable is ok in all places. The desktops at all the three places are working. One curious thing is that Knetworkmanager tries to make a connection and gives the state for decive eth0 as "ip configuration" even when there is no wire in the ethernet jack if I ask for a new connection. In fact, even when there is no wire, I do not get the "no carrier" message. The connections at the mtnl router level are by PPPoE. The result I get for ifconfig is as follows: sanjay@sanjay-laptop:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1e:68:c7:8a:a8 inet6 addr: fe80::21e:68ff:fec7:8aa8/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:1577058210 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:15 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:219 Base address:0x2000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:5058 (5.0 KB) TX bytes:5058 (5.0 KB) wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:22:69:47:43:99 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-22-69-47-43-99-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) If there is any more information required please let me know. I am what they call a "noob" and learnt what linux means only about four months ago. I use Kubuntu 8.10 and have the Knetworkmanager on it. I have not installed nm v 0.7 or any other. With regards, Sanjay

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[ILUG-Bom][ANNOUNCE]Formation of Mumbai Python Users Group
by Easwar Hariharan 05 Feb '09

05 Feb '09

Hi all, This mail is to announce the formation of the Mumbai Python Users Group as a Google Group.Interested members can subscribe to the list at the following address[1].Aim and agenda of MUMPy is Anything related to Python, with some focus on Mumbai in the lines of ChiPy [2] which is one of the premier Python Users' groups in the US.The basic idea is to promote Python the language in general by educating people and also drive the development of Free & Open Source (as well as commercial) Python applications in Mumbai and beyond. We will hold regular meetings where we can arrange talks, BoFs as well as Hackfests. If we manage to gain enough momentum we can organise an Indian version of PyCon here in Mumbai in the future.On topic discussions are anything related to Python. We probably will frown upon ``homework problems''. Job posts are fine as long as they are marked with [JOBS] in the subject. [1]http://groups.google.com/group/mumpy [2]http://chipy.org/ Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065

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Invitation to FossConf-09
by Keerthy 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Hi, In association with Indian Linux User Group of Chennai and National Resource Centre for Free/Open Source software, Thiagarajar College of Engineering,Madurai is hosting a 3 day National level conference on Free/Open Source software on feb 27, feb-28, and march-1.The objective of the conference is to create an awareness among students and common people about the importance of using Free/Open source Software. The conference will host talks by eminent foss speakers,demo stalls emphasizing the importance of free software technologies, projects and research presentations on foss and foss based contests. The registrations for the conference either as speakers or as student delagates presenting projects and demo stalls is open.You can register at http://fossconf.in The entry is free and all are invited for the conference. regards, Fossconf team. ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using TCEMail Service. Thiagarajar College of Engineering Madurai - 625015 (India)

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Lenny iso
by jtd 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Does anyone have lenny isos -- Rgds JTD

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Internet problems
by Sanjay Singhvi 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Sorry, forgot to add that all was well with the world and the internet was working fine on the very same machines till three days ago. Your friend, Sanjay

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Two Day Workshop On OpenSource Technologies @ CDAC Mumbai
by Siji Sunny 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Hello All, We are announcing a Two Day Workshop on "Working with Open Source Technologies" on 9/10 Feb, 2009. You may take the opportunity to learn more about open source technologies and about BOSS GNU/Linux operating system. BOSS is a GNU/Linux distribution,based on Debian by C-DAC for enhancing the use of Free/Open Source Software in the country. Made specifically for the Indian Environment, it consists of a pleasing Desktop environment coupled with Indian language support and other packages that are most relevant for use in the government domain. Also we will cover PHP programming (With lab session),Linux internals,Linux Administration etc.topics. For more details on the workshop and topics covered, visit website: www.cdacmumbai.in and www.bosslinux.in. Please feel free to get in touch with us. With regards Siji Sunny C-DAC Mumbai -- Siji Sunny

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(no subject)
by Gurjit Singh Dhillon 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/

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Knoppix 6.0 with Audio Desktop Reference Implementation And Networking Environment(ADRIANE)
by Siji Sunny 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Hello All, Recently Knopper released new version of Knoppix (KNOPPIX 6.0),With lot of new features, which includes. 1.A.D.R.I.A.N.E. <http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html>(Audio Desktop Reference Implementation And Networking Environment) is a talking menu system, which is supposed to make work and internet access easier for computer beginners, even if they have no sight contact to the computers monitor. A graphical environment with also talking programs and arbitrary magnification using compiz-fusion <http://www.compiz-fusion.org/>, is another option. 2.Accellerated boot procedure: Independently from the usual SysV bootscripts, multiple tasks of system initialization are run in parallel, so that interactive desktops are reached very fast. The slowest factor is still udev, start time is reduced to about half compared to versions 5.x 3.LXDE <http://www.lxde.org/> is used as graphical environment, which is a very slim and fast desktop with extremely short starttime and low resource requirements. Because of its GTK2 base, LXDE works together nicely with screenreader Orca <http://live.gnome.org/Orca>. For more information visit http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix60-en.html with regards -- Siji Sunny

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 70, Issue 1
by Suhit Kelkar 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Hello, This is about the discussion that took from the FOSS paper initiative. Let's take this opportunity to come good here, for once, at least trying to put our differences behind us. To ensure that this discussion does not disintegrate into name-calling (which is already happening), hurt egos and an abandonment of the original discussion, let us please first agree on the mode of debate. Here are a few questions. They may already have been answered before, but please do reconsider in the light that this forum may not have as high a rate of successful communication/collaboration as we may like. And this is coming from a long-time lurker. We should succeed this time at least, right? The following points are kept general to serve for later conversations as well as this one. 1] Presumably suggestions are to be generated on this forum and elsewhere. Who will 'pool' the suggestions together, if anyone? 2] Is there to be a steering committee for this? If yes, how is the committee to operate? Is it to be a standard majoritarian system (50+1 vote wins) or a municipal-libertarian one (a very large majority is necessary)? 3] Who will chair the think-tank? Who will be seat-holders? 4] What is the penalty for verbal abuse? Removal from the conversation? Removal from the forum? 5] What is the tentative deadline for drafting an action plan? 6] Which are the people/resources we know we've got in the bag? * Here is the 'Six Boxes Approach', (by Bill Blundel, Washington Post) which you can use to structure a mass of information into usable shape, by considering the points: HISTORY IMPACT SCOPE CENTRAL REASONS GATHERING AND ACTION OF OPPOSING FORCES THE FUTURE This can be used while discussing too. Each point will be weighted subjectively of course, but you reach a place of well-rounded thought. Most of the guys here are senior to me on this forum, I hope this email won't come amiss. Sometimes an outsider has a fresh perspective to offer.

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Obama asks for a FOSS paper
by jtd 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7841486.stm Wonder if a similar move should be initiated for the PMs in waiting here. -- Rgds JTD

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[OT] alternate brand modems compatible with MTNL TriBand
by Arun Kumar Khan 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

My DLINK 502T ADSL modem is behaving real flaky. Today it spontaneously reset my programmed values (ip, incoming rules etc.) to factory default (192.168.1.1)! When I try to changes it IP number to a different network, it simply does not save it. I realize there are a lot of folks here with the service. Are there any other brands that are compatible with MTNL's ADSL service? What has been your experience with them? TIA, -- Regards, Arun Khan

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local repository server
by sameer shinde 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

Hi All, How do I create a local repository server for ubuntu linux (similar to debain) or How do merge all my aptoncds to all together to create one single cd /dvd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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