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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ping
by Joel A Divekar 24 Jan '13

24 Jan '13

From: Dinesh Shah ( / ) <dineshah(a)gmail.com> Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:29:34 To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ping Anurag, On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks to push from Arun and Dinesh, the mailing list is back online. > ILUG-BOM was left without a mailing list server for a year, but is now > nested within FSF-I infrastructure. Thanks for doing all the hard work for bringing the MM backup. > Anurag With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Pvt. Ltd. +91-98213-11906 +91-9833-TICKET http://www.shahmicro.com http://iopt.in http://crm.iopt.in Blog: http://dineshah.wordpress.com -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers This is really cool guys !!!  Regards Joel Divekar Mumbai, India Mob : +91 9920208223 Blog : http://joeldivekar.blogspot.com/ Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeldivekar Slideshare : http://www.slideshare.net/JoelDivekar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ping
by gnulinuxist＠gmail.com 18 Jan '13

18 Jan '13

Sent from my Nokia phone -----Original Message----- From: Arun Khan Sent: 18/01/2013, 18:34 To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ping On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks to push from Arun and Dinesh, the mailing list is back online. > ILUG-BOM was left without a mailing list server for a year, but is now > nested within FSF-I infrastructure. > Anurag Yay! This is good news indeed. However, what happens to the Google Group that Binand started? -- Arun Khan Arun, we can have a dual forwarding type system across both lists. Regards, Rony. -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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What's wrong with db.ilug-bom.org.in/db.glug-bom.org?
by Philip Tellis 04 Dec '11

04 Dec '11

I'm trying to find my sendmail rewriting howto which used to be on the lug webserver here: http://db.glug-bom.org/lug-authors/philip/docs/Hdr-Env-Masq-miniHOWTO.txt however the server does not seem to be active any more. The alternate URL: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/lug-authors/philip/docs/Hdr-Env-Masq-miniHOWTO.txt doesn't work either (404). Does anyone know where these pages were moved to? -- hello world

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A personal appeal from Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales
by Siji Sunny 03 Dec '11

03 Dec '11

I know every one might have read this since it's in wikipedia.So it's a gentle reminder to all who hasn't contributed yet. "Google might have close to a million servers. Yahoo has something like 13,000 staff. We have 679 servers and 95 staff. Wikipedia is the #5 site on the web and serves 450 million different people every month – with billions of page views. Commerce is fine. Advertising is not evil. But it doesn't belong here. Not in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind. It is a place we can all go to think, to learn, to share our knowledge with others. When I founded Wikipedia, I could have made it into a for-profit company with advertising banners, but I decided to do something different. We’ve worked hard over the years to keep it lean and tight. We fulfill our mission, and leave waste to others. If everyone reading this donated ₹100, we would only have to fundraise for one day a year. But not everyone can or will donate. And that's fine. Each year just enough people decide to give. This year, please consider making a donation of ₹100, ₹200, ₹300 or whatever you can to protect and sustain Wikipedia. Thanks, *Jimmy Wales* Wikipedia Founder -- Siji Sunny

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US has become a dangerous place for software development: RMS
by Swapnil Bhartiya 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

RT (Russia Today) yesterday conducted an interview with Richard M Stallman, the founder of Free Software Foundation and the writer of the world's most advance license GNU GPL. RT asked readers to ask questions and then they would pick questions for RMS. http://www.muktware.com/news/3056 We asked two questions on RT's Facebook page and both those questions were presented to RMS. Muktware: Do you think USA is becoming hostile to innovation and competition as the companies like Apple and Microsoft are gaming the system? RMS: I have to point out that innovation is not my highest value. Human rights are my highest values. So I don't to get into the dialogue that treats innovation as a primary goal. With software patents the US has become a dangerous place for software development, including innovative software development, because when a program is innovative, that means it has some new ideas in it. But it also has lots of well-known ideas in it. A large program combines thousands of ideas. So if you have some new ideas and you want to use them, in order to use them you have to combine them with a lot of other ideas that are well-known. And if you are not allowed to do that because those other ideas are patented, you can't use your new idea. Muktware: How much control should the USA have over the Internet? RMS: No more than anyone else. I don't think it will be safe to have any global control over the internet. because we could predict that that global control will work for the empire of the mega corporations and would attack human rights. Read more here: http://www.muktware.com/news/3056 -- Swapnil Bhartiya Editor: Muktware.com Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternatives Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktware Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts

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Reminder - Lug-Mum meeting Tomorrow
by Siji Sunny 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Reminder : LugMumbai Meeting Date : 3rd December,2011 Time : 4PM Venue : Favourites Bakery and Restaurant Shop No. 5, 6-A, Sonwadi Mansion, 209 LJ Road, Shivaji Park, Mumbai, Maharashtra 400016 -- Siji Sunny

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UID and FOSS
by Rony 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Hello, The purpose of this thread is to move further from where we had left it in the earlier one and as suggested by Dinesh Shah, discuss how we as FOSS people can provide alternate solutions to the shortcomings of the current system. Lets keep this purely technical and not pro or anti Aadhar. I have been looking up official as well as technology information about the Aadhar UID system and some important links are posted below. My observations are as follows. 1) The Aadhar project uses 2 forms of biometric identities, the fingerprints and the iris. 2) The fingerprint system used is the standard 2D system which is prone to errors due to various factors as explained in the links. There is a new system which is the 3D fingerprint scan that is yet to be available commercially (IMHO). It has better accuracy with good image quality as it is contact-less. The pdf link to the same is here.... Quality and Matching Performance Analysis of 3D Unraveled Fingerprints http://vis.uky.edu/~realtime3d/Doc/Manuscripts/Quality%20and%20matching%20p… Fingerprint - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprint 3) In iris scanning, there are chances of cheating by using fake iris contact lenses. To eliminate this problem, iris scanners use 'live-tissue verification' techniques to detect natural tissue. Iris recognition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_recognition 4) The Aadhar PoC ducument does not mention whether the live-tissue verification system is in place for iris scanners. proof of concept trial http://uidai.gov.in/images/FrontPageUpdates/uid_enrolment_poc_report.pdf 5) It is surprising that though they take multiple photos of the subject during the enrolment process, there is no face recognition software to take advantage of this bio-identity for more accurate results. Although this should be a fringe benefit and not the main basis of checking id. 6) Blood group which is an important and constant bio-identity for life is not included in this project. If implemented, proper sterile needles should be used for every sample collected. This information may not be necessary for regular business but useful for security agencies for id lookup of suspicious persons. 7) The software used for the devices is a custom software "A reference implementation of the enrolment software was created to standardize the process and have a uniform look-and-feel of the application across all three states. However, since the devices used were different in each state, the enrolment software used in each state was a custom version which followed the reference design. The UID technology team worked with each of the three agencies to create the customized software to be used in the corresponding state. There were also variations in the capture process followed, particularly in iris capture, because of the variations in capture devices." As devices vary in hardware, their accuracy will vary too. Since the software is the custom type, there will be total dependency on the hardware suppliers for software. In addition to this cost, for every computer that they use across the country, a license fee will have to be paid for every operating system that is the commercial proprietary type. Conclusion: 1) Instead of leaving this project in the hands of private hardware and software suppliers, the entire project should be centrally controlled by a Govt. institution that is actively involved into computing and software development like CDAC etc. 2) They should test devices from various vendors across the country and list them according to their accuracy. Only those devices that conform to FOSS software support should be included in the list. The entire report of this testing should be posted openly on the internet. 3) Software for this entire project including the server side too should be developed in-house by that Govt. institution and made the standard to all computers involded in the Aadhar project across the country. 4) Use only free as in freedom and free as in cost and open source software for the Aadhar system. This will eliminate the per computer license fees for operating systems in every Aadhar computer across the country. Given the total number of Aadhar computers in tens of thousands, this will be a significant amount. The added advantage of POSIX confirming systems will be immunity against common computer viruses as the systems will be on-line all the time for faster transactions. Some more lniks.... Unique Identification Authority of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unique_Identification_Authority_of_India De-duplication – The Complexity in the Unique ID context http://www.4gid.com/De-dup-complexity%20unique%20ID%20context.pdf -- Freedom is a shared resource. Take some, leave the rest for others. Please trim your replies. Avoid cross posting to other lists. Post your replies below the relevant original text, leaving a line space. Regards, Rony. http://ronybill.blogspot.com/

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How can I unsubscribe from this list?
by Heenal Rajani 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

How can I unsubscribe from this list? Thanks! Heenal -- Heenal Rajani +502 4283 5042 www.HugItForward.org ~ be the change ~

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Aadhar on Wiki --> Edit it.
by Rony 01 Dec '11

01 Dec '11

Hello, There is a wiki article on the Aadhar UID project and has very little content on the risks of the current system. So add your inputs to it. Keep the temperature low. -- Freedom is a shared resource. Take some, leave the rest for others. Please trim your replies. Avoid cross posting to other lists. Post your replies below the relevant original text, leaving a line space. Regards, Rony. http://ronybill.blogspot.com/

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Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?
by Swapnil Bhartiya 01 Dec '11

01 Dec '11

http://www.muktware.com/bitsnbytes/2983 I worked on the story and found oss is only a smoke screen. The entire UID project seems to be a pure Microsoft stack. This document provides step-by-step instructions to install the AADHAAR Enrolment Client and Biometric components needed for Biometrics capturing. The document is not intended to be a user manual for the AADHAAR Enrolment Client. The application has been built to work with the given pre-requisites. 1.1 Installation Pre-requisites • Operating System: Windows XP SP3 OR Windows 7 (only 32-bit editions) • Windows Installer 4.5 • Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 SP1 • Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Express • Aadhaar QSS SDK Setup • Vendor Device Manager You can see how the UID project has made Microsoft technologies mandatory. You can't use it without Microsoft. There is no mention of Linux in this important document. That clearly states that other than the already popular and powerful open source technologies such as Apache and MySQL rest of the stack is proprietary. Calling UID/Aadhar and Open Source project is like calling a Tata tractor a Mercedes just because one of its four tyres is a Mercedes tyre. -- Swapnil Bhartiya Editor: Muktware.com Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternatives Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktware Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts

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