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Asterisk on top of Wireless Mesh
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

> Well, this could be interesting, infact we can organise for something > more interesting by then. > How about having a handon with Asterisk running on top of Wireless Mesh ? I am very interested. If you could have it sometime in June, it would be very nice. Debarshi Ray

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STTP on Open Source Software
by Roshan 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Hi all, I was just finding something through search engines, and found that there is a STTP on "Open Source Software" in K J Somaiya College of Engineering. But, Registration was available only for faculty members, and I am student. The only best part I noted about this, was, Mr. Nagarjuna, is a part of this programme. >From the last meet that I attended at HBSCE, I was really happy what Mr. Nagarjuna shared about LaTEX. I'm sure, its really going to benefit those who attend this session. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Share your views with LFY
by Janani Gopalakrishnan 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

Hi all, Greetings from Linux for You (www.lfymag.com) In order to increase people-orientation and GNU/Linux users' participation in LFY, we have decided to introduce a new section (sorry, we are still racking our brains for the 'perfect' name) in the magazine, where GNU/Linux users can share their opinions regarding one interesting topic each month. Every month our team will decide on a question or topic and mail it to various ILUG mailing lists. We hope that the ILUG members will enthusiastically share their opinions on the subject. The team picks the best responses and publishes it in LFY. The answers can be technical, humorous or radical (you may give a totally new perspective to the topic being discussed). This month we've decided to start with the topic, "Why is it that 8 of the world's top 10 supercomputers are powered by GNU/Linux?" We request all those who are interested to kindly send in your responses to this question to Janani (writetojanani(a)gmail.com) with a CC to Atul (atul(a)efyindia.com). We really hope you are as enthusiastic as we are about this. Look forward to your responses. Thanks and regards, Janani Gopalakrishnan (http://gjanani.googlepages.com) Atul Goel (EFY Group, New Delhi)

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] FW: [OT] - OSS Philosophy Explained
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

>> The fast track guide says pg 16. top - >> "Free software need not be open source" >> Is this true? I thought free = free to improve and distrib... >> Since this is from Digit, I don't take it on face value. >As far as the definition goes I don't find any difference between Open >Source Software and Free Software. But Open Source Movement has >different goals than Free Software Movement. I think I read that 'Free' software can be closed - not available for peeking or modification. In which case, it's as good as proprietary/conventional software - I might be missing something here... -- Gishu

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Graph Plot
by Sushant Gulati 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

hello everyone, i need ur help guys. i hav heared that there is a specialized graph plotting tool in Linux. Is that correct? If yes, then can somebody help me with the name of the tool and the url where i can download it? is it available in the Fedora Core-1 distro? Warm regards, Sushant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wireless Mesh
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> To: linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:22:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wireless Mesh On Saturday 15 April 2006 16:30, jtd wrote: > I hate you. I hate you. I hate you for evoking more of my interest > :( Um...bad timing I guess but next week we have continuous practical > exams and vivas :( I was keeping away from this highly interesting > thread. May be you guys could demo this again in July? ( please ) > Engineering students will be free only in June - July. Very true. I can vouch for that since I am an engineering undergraduate too. > *curses Mumbai University's bad timing* Then you got to curse a hell lot of universities too. :D Well I am not even in Mumbai, not even within a 1000 km radius of the city. However I will be coming to Bombay this summer. Could we have a meet sometime in June/July regarding this. I am very interested to discover what all can be achieved with my notebook's wireless LAN card (Intel Pro 2200). Debarshi Ray

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Mutt File
by Rony Bill 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

Hello All, Since some days I have been going through various docs and sample .muttrcs on the net on how to configure mutt. I got the overall pictire and how set commands are used to set parameters in .muttrc . However it would be great if I could get a sample muttrc file for the following purpose, without any fancy pgp or macro stuff. I plan to use it as a stand alone application to send and receive our group messages using my yahoo pop/smtp server. Regards, Rony. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Education - Continuation
by Roshan 16 Apr '06

16 Apr '06

>Hi, >Sorry for not replying to the original thread, I've >deleted the >thread.. No problem, its back now ;) >Anyway, my friend is studying B.Sc. Physics. He just >gave his final >year >theory exams last week and has his practicals next >week. The >interesting thing is, that this year, for the first >time, from what he >says, Linux has been included in the syllabus. Quite Interesting. Infact, I was a bit surprised, I thought physics had more of electronics rather than Software! And wow!, more Physics graduates might now probably understand why they should be using GNU/LINUX >He had to study 8085 Microprocessor, Operating >Systems and hardware >basics etc. There was also a topic specifically >devoted to Linux versus >Windows. This question appeared in the exam paper. Umm..Generally, I am against a comparison, but I would only encourage using GNU/Linux for different purposes. >For the last couple of days, he has been practising >basic CLI on my >box. >8085, MS Office and Linux command line weighs 30 >marks in total, in the >practicals, apparently. Is he using Wipro KWin on Windows for practising Linux commands?.. >I think that's good news? What do the luggers think? This is good. BSc (Comp. Sci.) has something about GNU/Linux, as I had posted in the original thread, but they don't seem to be savvy for GNU/Linux in my COLLEGE. >Mrugesh >P.S. Only gripe being the use of MS Office >specifically... Aah..probably MS-CIT also teaches how to use MS Office, as it is more common in many offices, rather than Open Office Org __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Re: Linux Education - Continuation
by Roshan 16 Apr '06

16 Apr '06

> "Vivek J. Patankar" <list307(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I see that changing in the near future. ICICI Bank > recently pushed the > installation of OO.o on all it's corporate desktops > as part of a major > cost cutting effort. And were talking of a lot of > desktops here, > thousands. Oh wow! This is amazing!..But would they be using it on Windows?.... Probably, they might consider migrating to GNU/Linux later..sometime.. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] FW: [OT] - OSS Philosophy Explained
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 16 Apr '06

16 Apr '06

>All free software is open source software. Here free refers to freedom, we are >not talking of money. Right, I think this qualifies as mass-miscommunication of all readers of that mag. It just sent me to sel-questioning mode. -- Gishu

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Hard disk upgrade
by pitcom＠vsnl.com 16 Apr '06

16 Apr '06

I want to upgrade a dual boot 32gb hdd to 80gb hdd partition table as: hda1 fat32 hda5 fat32 hda6 fat32 had7 fat32 hda3 linux (Debian/Lilo) hda4 Swap Also available an utility from hdd vendor for win platform to partition/copy (Seagate). Suggest the upgrade. Regards Kamlesh

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Posgresql help
by Amit 15 Apr '06

15 Apr '06

Hi All, I have installed posgresql 8.1 database in my system(RHEL3) . It was installed perfectly and i also compiled it with gmake and gmake install later. i added user posgres for creating database and made him owner of /usr/local/pgsql directory . I created a db called db1 with initdb -D and createdb command and all the datas were located at /usr/local/pgsql/data .but when i tried to create a user or start teh database with psql .. it throws an error saying server is not running locally.. three questions 1) what port does posgresql listen? 2) What services i need to start? 3) Later how do i integrate with apache in future. Which sharedlibrarly do i need for that? Rgds AK

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FW: [OT] - OSS Philosophy Explained
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 15 Apr '06

15 Apr '06

-----Original Message----- From: Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) Sent: 10 April 2006 18:10 To: 'GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India' Subject: [OT] - OSS Philosophy Explained -----Original Message----- From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.glug-bom.org [mailto:linuxers-bounces@mm.glug-bom.org]On Behalf Of Frederick Noronha (FN) Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Digit April 2006... and FLOSS >* Fast track to [GNU]Linux, a 178-page handy guide small-sized. Hey glad that you brought this up.. Just watched Revolution OS this weekend + then I bought this Digit copy The fast track guide says pg 16. top - "Free software need not be open source" Is this true? I thought free = free to improve and distrib... Since this is from Digit, I don't take it on face value. Also on the business model (can of worms alert), Stallman n co say that the money lies in providing support to OSS. The movie showed that despite initial hoopla, VA Linux went down under due to mounting losses. Anyone know of a slightly more lived success story? This is an aspect that bothers me at times. -- Gishu

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Formation of Ubuntu India
by Baishampayan Ghose 14 Apr '06

14 Apr '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Sorry for cross-posting] Hello fellow Ubunteros, Greetings!!! Hope by this time you would have known that the Ubuntu Indian Local Community Team has got the Official Status from the Council. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam We have a few requests as well as announcements to be made. * Firstly we would appreciate if the GLUG's have their Local Ubuntu Teams who will be responsible for creating awareness about Ubuntu and Ubuntu-In community and also distribute the Ubuntu CDs in their Monthly meets or FOSS Events organised by placing bulk orders. [http://shipit.ubuntu.com] * We request you to create a Wiki page for your Local Team on our ubuntu-in.org website and start posting/contributing. Once you have created a wiki page kindly link it from http://ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Regional_Teams For e.g.. Once you have created a wiki page for your regional team say [Ubuntu_Chennai] kindly go to the Regional_Teams wiki page mentioned above and add your team name and link it. * You can help us in Localisation/translation/Packaging for Dapper as well as future Ubuntu releases. * Contribute Articles, Documentations, Frequently Asked Questions /Answers * Keep giving suggestions to help make Ubuntu better for us and the world. You can subscribe to ubuntu-in mailing list to get the latest information: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Hang around in our IRC channel #ubuntu-in @ irc.freenode.net "Live the Spirit of Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings" Regards, BG - -- Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose(a)ubuntu.com> Ubuntu -- Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com/ 1024D/86361B74 BB2C E244 15AD 05C5 523A 90E7 4249 3494 8636 1B74 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEP6rtQkk0lIY2G3QRAgrdAJ4lcxWe51bt023ufJbxbDViPTWKQwCguuvv NH+vR1W49mZIz/xLCrztfDg= =6Cvr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Linux goes to High Court!!
by Mukund Deshmukh 14 Apr '06

14 Apr '06

Hi, The Linux has penetrated to High Courts of Maharashtra and soon will enter district and session courts too. The online information system is based on linux. The IVRS is based on low cost external modem and my Perl module for IVRS (http://search.cpan.org/~mukund/Ivrs-0.24/Ivrs.pm) The online information system is being extended to 350 courts of Maharashtra. The project was completed by NIC Pune team. Best Regards, Mukund Deshmukh. Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746

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a wireless network workshop on 15th
by Nagarjuna 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

We are going to create a mesh network of about half a dozen access points on 15th April at HBCSE campus with the help of Fred Pook, a Netherlands based hacker/enterpruener who works in the suburbs in Goa. If any of you are intersted to join in this hands-on workshop please come to HBCSE on 15th about 10am. It is a day long workshop. We expect to finish making the mesh by evening. It is very likely that Fred Pook will also join us on the 16th meeting at the same venue. Nagarjuna

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] FW: [OT] - OSS Philosophy Explained
by Mitul Limbani 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hello, > I think I read that 'Free' software can be closed - not > available for peeking or modification. In which case, it's > as good as proprietary/conventional software - I might be > missing something here... You cant close (this way you are violating GPL :)) Since you are not passing on the same freedom which you get before closing. Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com

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Linux Education - Continuation
by Mrugesh Karnik 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hi, Sorry for not replying to the original thread, I've deleted the thread.. Anyway, my friend is studying B.Sc. Physics. He just gave his final year theory exams last week and has his practicals next week. The interesting thing is, that this year, for the first time, from what he says, Linux has been included in the syllabus. He had to study 8085 Microprocessor, Operating Systems and hardware basics etc. There was also a topic specifically devoted to Linux versus Windows. This question appeared in the exam paper. For the last couple of days, he has been practising basic CLI on my box. 8085, MS Office and Linux command line weighs 30 marks in total, in the practicals, apparently. I think that's good news? What do the luggers think? Mrugesh P.S. Only gripe being the use of MS Office specifically...

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a wireless network workshop on 15th
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

hi i would also like to join the workshop. MAHESH DESHPANDE

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help for Dependencies
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

> Whenever want to install new package on linux most of the time it gives me > error some dependecies are not installed and some list of files which are required > to be install. But where I could and how to install those dependencies? Pls. give > me suggetions for this. If you are using a RPM based distro like Fedora or Redhat, then you can manually get the packages from sites like http://freshrpms.net/, apart from using yum. In case you are in Ubuntu, then Synaptic is a God sent solution for you. Rishi

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Workshop
by PenguinPuPPy 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

I would certainly come over for the workshop but it would be great if you could elaborate the meet. And also if some body could guide me on how to reach the said location from Mankhurd station Thanks. -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Check it out
by kammaravasu＠yahoo.com 11 Apr '06

11 Apr '06

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Re: Linux Training and Certification Info
by Roshan 11 Apr '06

11 Apr '06

> Can somebody please provide information about > institutes in Mumbai providing > Linux Training and Certification. > Thank You. There are several centres in mumbai for RHCE/RHCT as Redhat Linux is comparatively popularized by media and educational institutes ;) (source: zdnetindia.com) Here's the URL for RHCE/RHCT in mumbai http://www.in.redhat.com/training/service /locations.php3#Mumbai (I have pressed an enter, after /service, the URL continues...) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Education
by Roshan 11 Apr '06

11 Apr '06

On Monday 10 April 2006 05:57, Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > Yes. As a student, you should demand that open source is used. If > both, industry and students put pressure together, things are likely > to happen faster. What a student would request might be considered as a whim and probably be ignored. However, as in the earlier reply by Mr. JTD, I'll make an attempt to ask my H. O. D., regarding this. But if the industry was given an opportunity to be in the team of deciding the curriculum, they could expect prospect employees for their organization with the essential skill set. And hence, In the original post, I insisted on the industry to initiate such a step. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to configure a wiki?
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 11 Apr '06

11 Apr '06

Hi Anurag/Dinesh, >> Also note that there are better wiki software avaliable than >> MediaWiki. Moinmoin is an excellent and safe alternative as PHP based >> wikis are known to have security issues. > I second that. What kind of security issues or vulnerabilities are you talking about? If there are vulnerabilities, then why is Wikipedia running on MediaWiki? Happy hacking, Debarshi

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[GNU] Linux a BIG hit in India
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 11 Apr '06

11 Apr '06

http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/apr/08spec.htm Linux a BIG hit in India Leslie D'Monte | April 08, 2006 It has been over a year since UTI Bank set up its call center that handles over 7,000 calls per day. The bank was looking for a robust platform that could guarantee it "high availability of services and uninterrupted call traffic". It had options but finally decided on Linux for its core business applications. "Today, we are really happy with Linux that has delivered 99.99 per cent uptime so far," says Pritesh Thaker, AVP, IT, UTI Bank. The bank, in fact, is now planning to base its credit card-based system on Linux too. UTI is not the lone player to swear by Linux. Eveready, a leading manufacturer of dry cell batteries and flashlights in India, has built a mission-critical resource system to automate all functionalities of its daily business using the Oracle e-business suite running on a Linux platform. Central Bank of India has implemented Linux in nearly 3000 branches. The Penguin (official mascot of Linux), it appears, has finally marched into enterprises like IDBI Bank, Canara Bank, New India Assurance, LIC, BSNL, IRCTC, ABN Amro, Airtel and even the governments of Maharashtra and West Bengal. The list, of course, is not exhaustive. In most cases, though, the implementation of Linux in Indian enterprises is by Red Hat (primarily since Red Hat Linux has been popularised by the media and offers support for Linux which, being open source, can be downloaded for free and has no upfront licensing fee). Otherwise, one can choose from the hundreds of other Linux distributions - Mandriva, Debian, Suse, PCLinuxOS, Knoppix and Ubuntu to name a few - for desktops and enterprises. "All verticals are ready for Linux adoption today. However the banking, financial and insurance services (BFSI) and government markets have been pioneers of sorts in adopting Linux. The retail segment is also gaining ground quickly, along with verticals ranging from telecommunications to media and entertainment. "In India, we are increasingly seeing corporates running ERPs and mission-critical applications on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux platform. Large databases and blade servers are being powered by Linux to run online share trading and lottery applications," says Javed Tapia, CEO, Red Hat. The Indiabulls group is a case in point. Indiabulls runs its Internet trading platform - Oracle 9i - on Linux. This system, which handles 40-45 per cent of Indiabulls' revenue transactions - nearly 10,000 customers are online at any point of time and transactions are in the range of Rs 1000 crore (Rs 10 billion) - runs on Linux. The online share trading infrastructure at Indiabulls generates close to 150000 database queries per minute. "Linux has become prettly stable. We never considered Windows because of the perception that it has a lot of vulnerabilities. Hence, we adopted the Linux route and are satisfied with the results," says Tejinderpal Singh Miglani, CTO, Indiabulls. IDBI's Sanjay Sharma, Head IT, corroborates this view. IDBI has been using an Oracle HR management and financial accounting system, which runs on Linux. From Sharma's perspective, this is a "mission-critical" application. "We did evaluate options like Unix and Windows too. However, we did not want to be tied up to resource-hungry applications and any particular vendor. Besides, you hardly have a problem of viruses with Linux," he says. Linux, indeed, is doing reasonably good business. IBM's business built around Linux, for instance, was worth $16 billion last year and is projected to be worth more than $50 billion, says the company's global head of public sector Linux sales, Mary Ann Fisher, who recently spoke at LinuxWorld, Australia. She added: "Governments worldwide are spending more than $3 billion a year on Linux hardware, software and services, and this is growing at 35 per cent a year. But it's the US military that is spending the most." "Mission-critical" debate Now, mission-critical applications, among other things, need servers. And for the first time, the server market in India is expected to cross the 100,000-unit mark in 2006. Servers are powerful networked machines for tasks such as handling e-mail, financial transactions, airline reservations and file storage. Based on the price, vendors classify servers as small (anywhere from Rs 40000 up to Rs 500,000), medium (from Rs 500,000 to Rs 1 crore) and large (over Rs 1 crore). They are identified as Intel (or X86 processor-based), Unix (or non-X86 processor-based) and Blade servers. Linux and Solaris are flavours of Unix. Windows and Intel form the loosely-termed "Wintel" brand. Back in 2000, India was primarily a Unix market in the enterprise. With the entry of certified and supported Linux solutions, Unix users in India found Linux an attractive proposition to migrate to. IDC has consistently reported Linux as the fastest growing OS in the world and predicts that the overall market revenue for Linux will exceed $35 billion by 2008. Globally, Windows narrowly overtook Unix in 2005 to claim the top spot in server sales for the first time, according to IDC. Computer makers sold $17.7 billion worth of Windows servers worldwide in 2005 compared with $17.5 billion in Unix servers. Linux came third. The Unix market, though, is still huge. Sun is trying to restore Unix fortunes as well by making Solaris an open-source project and bringing it to the x86 servers. The battle for Unix customers (traditionally, the server King) is not new, with IBM, HP and Red Hat all pushing Unix-to-Linux migration plans. This definitely has hurt Sun's profitability. Sun, in turn, released Solaris 10 last year as a free download (it has close to 5 million downloads). Praveen Sawkar, country manager, Solaris, Sun Microsystems India, admits that "Linux has gained some traction in the x86 server space and has managed to break Wintel combination's stronghold on this segment of the market". However, he adds, that most mission-critical applications in the world "continue to be deployed, almost without exception, on the SPARC platform". He opines it will be a long time before the industry will start basing their mission-critical applications on Linux. "In the BFSI industry, one of the largest users of mission-critical applications, Linux is used for end-user banking, algorithmic and analytical work (derivative analysis and risk portfolio assessment). It is yet to be used in core banking environments, something that can be classified as being mission-critical," asserts Sawkar. Microsoft concurs with this view. Sanjiv Mathur, director (customer and partner experience), Microsoft Corporation India, notes that according to IDC, 42.3 per cent of mission-critical applications worldwide run on Windows server platform. "With a 69.5 per cent market share, Microsoft has a strong foothold across all verticals including BFSI and government. Linux has a much smaller share of the market, which is limited to specific areas of high-performance computing and other workloads like security and edge servers, which have traditionally been on the Unix platform. So this whole perception of Linux posing a threat to Microsoft does not hold true. Linux growth is more from the re-platforming of Unix," he adds. Frost and Sullivan (India) - director ICT, Alok Shende, too, appears to be in agreement. "Linux is definitely getting into the enterprise. However, enterprises today need end-to-end solutions. Second, the price of the OS is a small part of the end-to-end solution. People should look at the total cost of ownership, which included long-term costs like services and people availability. Linux has to create a whole market around the product. While it has matured as a technology, it is wanting from a business perspective. And that will take some time," he opines. However, there are major companies that stand aggressively by Linux. Sandeep Menon, director, Linux Business, Novell West Asia, opines that Linux is increasingly being used as a platform of choice for mission-critical applications. "Several mainframes and super computers are running Linux. Linux is also been embedded in routers and telecom equipment. It is used by some of the largest banks, airlines and Internet engines in the World. What else can be more critical?" he asks. He adds that with proprietary software, the customer is totally at the mercy of vendor. If the vendor discontinues support for any reason, the customer can't do anything. In the case of Open Source Linux, even if the vendor stops support, the customer can go to anyone else for support or even support it using his/her own resources, given that the source code will be available. Ashutosh Dhanesha, country manager, Linux Business, IBM India, concurs: "Linux gives customers choice. Our philosophy on "Freedom of choice" for software, hardware and services and leadership in industry standards provides customers with security, flexibility and control of their IT infrastructure and applications. We see Linux moving to mission-critical applications such as ERP and even high end applications such as Seismic data analysis." "Linux is the most proactive as far as security is concerned. With a million eyeballs looking continuously at the code, bugs are fixed faster than they can be exploited. As opposed to a licensing approach that proprietary platforms follow, we sell subscriptions, wherein customers are automatically covered for upgrades and updates," says Tapia. Experts opine there is a Rs 600-crore (Rs 6 billion) market for open source software which is growing at a compounded annual growth rate of 35-40 per cent. A sharp rise in enterprise-wide adoption of Linux or Open Source is one of the primary reasons for this optimism. Gartner predicts that by 2008, 95 per cent of Global 2000 organisations will have formal open-source acquisition and management strategies. The Penguin, it appears, will give its competitors an icy path to walk on. Penguin facts * Linux is expected to have a 15 per cent share of the ERP market by 2007 (Peerstone Research) * 55 per cent of all companies deployed Linux by the end of 2005 (AMR Research) * There are over 1.2 million developers with Linux skills (Evans Data Corp) * IBM has more than 7000 services professionals working with Linux * Robert Francis Group (IBM-sponsored research) found security levels in Linux generally exceeded those in Windows, providing a more secure and manageable environment out of the box with significantly more functionality in terms of security integration and management * The Linux kernel programming code is better and more secure than the programming code of most proprietary software - based on a four-year analysis of the 5.7 million lines of Linux source code conducted by five Stanford University researchers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to configure a wiki?
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> OP, I too am curious to know which college are you from? I am from National Institute of Technology, Hamirpur.

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Re: Linux Education
by Roshan 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> You would be wise to learn GNU/Linux well. Even if u > are using windows. It is usually your last bastion >after windows is finished > with u. besides getting anything done is a breeze in > GNU/Linux. As far as possible, for most of my work, I use Open Source Software or work in Redhat 9.0. I would be shifting to Fedora Core 5 after 16th May (the day when I write my last exam of Semester VI [GRADUATION]) > Could you post the current curriculum or point me to > some place where > it is available. I had designed a page long back... http://www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001/web.html I know the design and the color comibination of the page is too bad, was my first design...when I just started understanding HTML. here's another important source: http://www.mu.ac.in/ide/sylbscit.pdf is the file to download. Under Semester 3, we have a subject called System Programming, but deals mostly with UNIX commands and working of the operating system. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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Linux Education
by Venkatesh Hariharan 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> From: Roshan <d_rosh2001(a)yahoo.co.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org > Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:33:22 +0100 (BST) > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Education > I am currently pursuing my T. Y. BSc. (I. T.) and much > of what I have in my curriculum is pretty much using > applications that work in Windoze! > > Considering the professionals in this list, can the > software industry, especially, those who provide > services in the open source areas using GNU/Linux, > initiate certain programmes or take some steps to be a > part of the curriculum developement team of courses > which provide education about software development for > University of Mumbai? I'll be happy to take this up with Mumbai University. > I agree, this is not easy and needs the consensus of > both the university and the industry, but someone > would have to initiate it. > > Or students like me should put this request in the > form of a letter to the university? Yes. As a student, you should demand that open source is used. If both, industry and students put pressure together, things are likely to happen faster. Venky

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Digit April 2006... and FLOSS
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

For a long time, I had this impression that DIGIT was too Windows-focussed. The April 2006 issue (www.thinkdigit.com price Rs 125) was a welcome change. Below are some details of what the issue contains. Go for it: * Fast track to [GNU]Linux, a 178-page handy guide small-sized. Includes What is [GNU]Linux, getting GNU/Linux running, inside Linux, the X Windows system, tools and applications, multimedia and gaming, networking, distributions, system administration, resources. (My only regret is that page 178 lists just five user-groups in big cities -- Bangalore, Delhi, Mumbai, Pune and Trivandrum... while completely overlooking smaller but active user-groups, Goa for instance.] * On the CD: Gentoo 2006.0, AmaroK, Drupal 4.6.x, Damn Small Linux, Fluxbox, GNOME Sensors Applet. Also Byzantine OS, Puppy Linux 1.0.8r1, Epiphany, Evolution, Galeon 2.0.1, XFCE4, Ubuntu 5.10. Portable Firefox 1.5, OpenOffice.org. * Damn Small Linux has a nearly complete desktop, and many command line tools. All applications are chosen with the best balance of functionality, size and speed. Damn Small also has the ability to act as an SSH/FTP/HTTPD server right off of a live CD. * Kplayer is the KDE media player based on MPlayer. With Kplayer you can easily play a wide variety of video and audio files and streams using a rich and friendly interface that follows KDE standards. --------------------------------------------------------- Articles in the magazine... --------------------------------------------------------- * Fandom of the Opera. (Not really Free Software, but comes with a version for GNU/Linux.) * Enjay Network Solutions www.enjayworld.com offers solutions for ThinClients, supporting Win2K,2K3, Linux, fullscreen DOS and Citrix MetaFrame (ICA). * Digital Tools | Tips & Tricks covers (i) Damn Small Linux (ii) View HTML mail in Dillo * Set up an Internet Connection on DSL (iv) Keeping track of network traffic on GNU/Linux (v) MP3 in text mode, MP3Blaster. * Mix tracks using Audacity. One-page article. * Life in a USB nutshell."Portable applications are built for the sole purpose of being run off a USB stick -- no installation, no writing settings to anything other than its own folder, and best of all, nearly all of them are free." Talks a lot about OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, i.Scribe, Firefox, MPlayer, etc. * An article: "Is Piracy Good?" "Let's say Microsoft makes a Windows version that is un-crackable. Let's say it's Vista for this example. What happens then?... a lot of people start using Linux! Lindows, SuSE, Ubunut, you chooose..." -- ------------------------------------------------------------- | India Linux Users' Group, Goa | | Join the friendly user group | | Mail list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa/join | ---------------------------------------------------------- | | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teach-yourself-linux | | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa-announce | | http://www.iosn.net/country/india/organizations/ilug-goa/ | ------------------------------------------------------------- , , / \ .-. * SOFTWARE ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) (. .) * FREEDOM `-_---' `---_-' / V \ * SHARING `--|o` 'o|--' // \\ \ ` / /( )\ KNOWLEDGE IS POWER ): :( '.^^_^^.' SHARE IT EQUITABLY :o_o: \_/ \_/ "-"

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dd usage problem
by Rony Bill 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

Hello All, From the net I found a command to copy a cd into an iso file. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso This has to be given to an unmounted disc. However I got a series of continuous errors when running the command and the operation failed. What could have gone wrong? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Help for Dependencies
by Dinesh J Dalvi 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

Hi All Linuxers Whenever want to install new package on linux most of the time it gives me error some dependecies are not installed and some list of files which are required to be install. But where I could and how to install those dependencies? Pls. give me suggetions for this. Thanks for all in advance Dinesh

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Linux Education
by Roshan 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

I am currently pursuing my T. Y. BSc. (I. T.) and much of what I have in my curriculum is pretty much using applications that work in Windoze! Considering the professionals in this list, can the software industry, especially, those who provide services in the open source areas using GNU/Linux, initiate certain programmes or take some steps to be a part of the curriculum developement team of courses which provide education about software development for University of Mumbai? I agree, this is not easy and needs the consensus of both the university and the industry, but someone would have to initiate it. Or students like me should put this request in the form of a letter to the university? We (BSc I. T.) have learnt about UNIX Operating system's basic commands in one of our semesters which actually inclined me towards using GNU/Linux as a mainstream OS. BSc (Computer Science) students learn a little more about the Operating System. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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How to configure a wiki?
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

Hi, We are designing a new site for our college GLUG. We would also like to have a wiki. Now could anyone tell me (or point an URL) as to how to configure a wiki from scratch? Meanwhile I shall try the Google route too. Thanks a lot, Debarshi

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Dialup connectivity additionally
by िऩऩाद 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

Hi I have braod band connectivity and gives very good speed. But for the last 2 to 3 months I have been experiencing problems with the same. It is sometimes not available for 10 days in a month. This hampers day to day work. I am planning a dialup internet connection as backup as i can atleast do normal routine work like cheking mails,accessing bank accounts etc. I want some wireless phone I was planning on Tata Indicom. Any suggestions or alternatives are welcome Thanks िऩऩाद बापट

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PCQLinux GPL violation issue...
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

Hi Dinesh, Rony, Leave it man. It is proved beyond doubt that PC Quest is not only lousy but a hell lot of other things too. Do not bother about those fellows and unecessarily fill up your brain space. I am sure you can be more productive if you concentrate on other topics at hand. Happy hacking, Debarshi

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Another Feather In Our Cap
by Tux user 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

Hi All, Red Hat (NASDAQ: RHAT) announced that Life Insurance Corporation of India (LIC), India's largest insurance company, has chosen to implement Red Hat Enterprise Linux across its desktops and servers. Read more : http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=184429441 Ragards Tux user.

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Challenging final year project
by Manas Pradhan 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

I need to get a challenging final year project which will last for 8-9 months.. Ihav some ideas of my own too. But i need an external for that.. So those who are really interested plzzz mail me. Its very urgent.. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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Linux Training and Certification Info
by Javed Dhanani 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

Can somebody please provide information about institutes in Mumbai providing Linux Training and Certification. Thank You.

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PCQLinux GPL violation issue...
by Dinesh Joshi 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

Hello all, And here we have it from the horse's mouth: http://forums.pcquest.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4523 The editor of PCQ has responded that they have _not_ violated the GNU GPL as they have modified only anaconda and the init scripts of FC4. _I'm stumped_ :O How in the world have they "remastered" an entire distro without modifying anything other than anaconda and the init scripts? They claim to have distributed the sources of anaconda along with PCQLinux 2006. I believe them. If thats the case then I am shocked as to how can someone: 1. FUBAR hardware detection 2. Introduce a whole lotta bugs 3. Break packages by simply editing anaconda and the init scripts...? Wow if it's really true then I am speechless. ms guys are really good at what they do :O And the threats galore. Now they think someone opening their mouth is defamation... >_< -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Website and wiki
by Roshan 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

> Thank you for the logo. May i ask GIMP geeks from > this list for some > good logos. I will take some more time to get acquainted with GIMP. > Let me know where I can start with for validating! > > Save our homepage, fix the errors in html and > validate it against > http://validator.w3.org/ . Let me know if you need > more help with > this. I might probably include this activity this weekend. :) ____________________________________________________ Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/

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April 2006 GLUG meet
by Anurag 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

Hello list members, We'll be having our April GLUG meet at HBCSE on sunday , the 16th of April 2006. Date : Sunday, 16th April 2006 Time : 4:30 PM Venue: HBCSE, Mankhurd Reaching Venue: http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/Data/ObjectType/c/contact/viewObjectType Topics: 1) Internals of ``top'' and ``ps'' -- by Prashant 2a) LIRC - Setting up a gnu/linux based home entertainment desktop. -- by Rajeev RK LIRC: http://www.lirc.org/ Linux Infrared Remote Control Project, is a package that allows you to decode and send infra-red signals of many (but not all) commonly used remote controls. 2b) XGL/AIGLX - Hands on demo of the 3D desktops -- by Rajeev RK Everyone's invited to attend and benefit form the talks. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Re: Website and wiki
by Roshan 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

> Hello, > > Please have a look at new wiki theme at > http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page?useskin=beagle > This mediawiki theme has been customised to look > more like the one > used at our website. If list members like it, then > perhaps we can make > this theme as default. Many thanks to the folks at > ubuntu-in.org for > providing us this theme. The theme appears to be good enough. 1. I suppose the font used on the page, appears to be a specific one (most likely Trebuchet MS), and needs to be generalized in the CSS either with Sans-Serif or Helvetica/Arial. 2. Either the logo may be centre aligned or a banner along with the logo can be centrally placed. I will design a banner and send it across. > Also, some days back we had a discussion regarding > the non validating > html used at our homepage. Few people had offered > help in making it w3 > compliant. I would again ask people to come forward > if they are > willing to help us with this. Let me know where I can start with for validating! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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D S Linux
by Rony Bill 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

Hello All, Here is another linux cutie. http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/index.html Haven't tried it yet. What I noticed about it in the forums was that you got to sudo to be root, so it does not give direct root access. The screenshots look very tempting. http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-2.3.jpg http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-2.3jwm.jpg Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PCQ Linux 2006 Lousy.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

> I switched to FC2 and I still find it the most stable of all Fedora > releases. No glitches. No problems. Works like a dream :) and I use it > all the time on my desktop :D Have installed PCQLinux 2k4, 2k5 but > neither of them met my expectations. 2k6 was an utter > disappointment :*( I think the same too. In fact FC2 detected my sound card which neither FC1 nor FC4 detected. However FC5 seems to be much better and I might say it is the best Fedora release ever. GNOME 2.14 is cool too. I made the switch to FC5 since I found the GNOME/Gtk+ libraries too old in FC2 and could not successfully upgrade GNOME 2.6.

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HylaFax Successfully Installed
by Rony Bill 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

Hello All, I had installed the hylafax packages through 'adept' in Kubuntu 5.10 but never configured them. Finally I decided and google showed up useful links for the setup. The first one is the server configuration given here http://www.aboutdebian.com/fax.htm The server setup smoothly and using 'kdeprintfax', I was able to send messages to my fax machine. However I was looking for a fax printer that would be a part of my printer list when giving the print command. So this link looked promising http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-print2hylafax.htm After a lot of haggling and bargaining with different qt3 libs, I finally managed to get 'faxfrontend' up and running only to discover that its similar to kdeprintfax. Both of these are separate utilities that need the file to be selected and then its sent. However I am still looking for that elusive fax printer that can be selected from the print menu. The Kubuntu 5.10 'System Settings' does have a printer setup with a 'print to fax printer' but its settings are blank. Any clues on how to link the fax applications with that fax printer? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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Help with college
by Jayanta Chandra Chandra 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

Have a look... You can get $500 for college here http://progressingpromotion.com/?r=EUEkBIMBZwJBAmYIAyUF&i=gmail&z=1&tc=1 Talk soon!

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img file greater than 1.44 MB.
by Nadeem M. Khan 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

Hi. I've been trying to install RHEL 3 on an IBM x346. I needed an img file to load at install time for my Adaptec hostraid controller. The file is present at the IBM site, but the size is greater than 1.44 MB. The size is 1.47 MB and cannot fit into a floppy (which I would put into the drive for the "linux dd" comand to work.) Has anyone else encountered this problem, as I see that lots of img files are greater than 1.44 MB? Regards, NMK.

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Website and wiki
by Anurag 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

Hello, Please have a look at new wiki theme at http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page?useskin=beagle This mediawiki theme has been customised to look more like the one used at our website. If list members like it, then perhaps we can make this theme as default. Many thanks to the folks at ubuntu-in.org for providing us this theme. Also, some days back we had a discussion regarding the non validating html used at our homepage. Few people had offered help in making it w3 compliant. I would again ask people to come forward if they are willing to help us with this. thanks, Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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PCQ Linux 2006 Lousy.
by Rony Bill 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

Hello All, The PCQ Linux 2006 writeup in the mag was quite impressive so I tried it out. First of all, the CD media is terrible, it has many file errors. First time, in CD1 itself it had some file errors. On inserting CD2, it simply went into CLI and said the system was ready to reboot. Next time it was another 'dhakka maro' session of opening and closing the cd (Sony DVD) tray but it finally installed. It is supposed to be FC4 packages based but it is a disgrace to the existing FC4. It could not go beyond 800x600 resolution. It did not detect the sound devices (Both these things worked fine in FC4). The Firefox setup in Kde showed weird behavior. It would not allow me to check/uncheck boxes and as I moved my mouse over it the tick marks would randomly appear and disappear. Finally I just chucked it. After almost a year of FC4 and Ubuntu 5.10, if PCQ comes up with such crap, it will only sabotage the FOSS cause. I won't be surprised if M$ uses these CDs to show people how good Windows is, over Linux. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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