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64-bit compilation
by santosh rao 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi, i have a amd-opteron 246 processor. with slackware 10 installed. i have gcc-3.3.4 when i try to compile any code with 64-bit flag it is giving me an error stating that 64 bit not implemented. Do i have to install a newer version of gcc? Google as well as gcc.gnu doesny say much about 64bit compilation .... Anyone with any knowledge of 64 bit compilation please reply. -- Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take; out by the moments that take our breath away. Regards Santosh Rao

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Broadband service and LAN/home networking with Linux
by Abhishek Daga 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

--- Mayuresh Rajwadkar <rajwadkar(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > HI > > Does anyone use a broadband connection, and run a LAN > behind a Linux Server ? Yes > I understand that most broadband providers talk on > "single" connection/Single PC only for residential > connections. > Since there was no question asked, I am not sure the relevance of your statement and the right context. Anyways, just to make an attempt.... For the Broadband provider, it doesnt matter whether your single connection is used for a single computer or shared between 100 computers. For them "single" refers to the fixed about of bandwidth that is alloted to you. This input can come into an NIC which could be your computer or a Router (which is essentially a NIC with frills). Then it's upto you what you want to do. So if you share the line between X machines, via Natting or Proxy server, the bandwidth for each individual machine goes down in some proportion. Though not in a linear fashion. This is because just because 2 machines are sharing a 128 Kbps line, does not mean that each will only get 56Kbps. Because not every machine is making a request at the same time. Yes, in the case of "Business" line, as also advertised by MTNL TriBand, they will assure you the speed for EACH of your machines. I have no idea what your actual question was going to be and your two statements were quite disconnected, but I executed an early morning rant dump anyways. If you feel the response was helpful, distribute 10 copies of the latest Stable OpenOffice else..... -abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Running FoxPRo app on FC3 via DosEMU
by vaibhav samant 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 Abhishek Daga wrote : >At the risk of stating the obvious, I'd like to add my 2 dinars. A major >roadblock to adoption of linux in small offices is that accounting applications >currently dependent on DOS (yes still people use them, and they work great) and >Win platforms need to be run. No way those people are going to adopt to any >experimental software. > >So, the mission began. Taking 1 office at a time: >(In my verbose narration I will mark the "points to ponder" within %% and %%) <snip> I tried doing the same. Foxpro based apps on Linux using Freedos. All worked fine in the experimental phase. But the moment we went to real usage (Full data entry and report generation), we hit a major road block. We found that there was no way to control the memory allotted to the DOS / Foxpro application. There were forms with more than 6-7 screens and towards the 5, 6 screen the foxpro would collapse, due to lack of memory (buffers or whatever). Tried a couple of tweaks, did not work out. I sure agree with you, to take Linux on desktops of every SME, we need to resolve just 4 major issues. (1) Foxpro Apps working (I know some major Pharma cos using Foxpro, Clipper apps. The world's best hotel s/w costing above a crore is on Foxpro-Dos. Thats the ground reality). (2) Get Tally on Linux. (3) Get printers to work. (4) Get linux to work on P-II, Celeron 333 with 64 MB RAM with X. I believe if these 4 issues are addressed, it will be must easier to get Linux in a large number of Small offices. And trust me we are talking of very large numbers. Figures could actually scare M$. regards, Vai

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Re: Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi Roshan, First of all don't refer me as SIR , Keep it reserved for somebody of real importance ... I am just a small entity ( I always feel a newbie ) in the Hacker Community .... We could be good friends....... Regarding the mail , Their is a catch in my statement itself if U read the mail carefully LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM was developed by Linus First of all LINUX is not a operating System at all.... It's JUST a kernel ........... So calling it a operating system is misleading, The Os which it actually refers is GNU / LINUX.... Which was definitely not developed by Linus alone.... It's a huge community effort all over the net , Which was started by Richard Stallman under the GNU PROJECT !!! GNU comprises more than 90% of the OS, which everybody is using today and unknowingly refering as just "linux" ?? While infact linux is a small ( i am not refusing it's importance ) part , called kernel which fits the GNU OS architecture so WE ( GNU FOLLOWERS )do not want to deny Linus any credit for Linux but also don't want everyone else using the OS to neglect the efforts and emotions of millions of hackers or Community who have contributed the GNU Project So FEEL PROUD to say I am using GNU / LINUX ( read GNU slash Linux ) Personally .. I am waiting for a complete GNU OS ..... :) I want to get rid of Linus ( i mean Linux and Linus : ) ) His views and statements are really not pro GNU... I am already trying GNU /HURD installation at home It's definitely the Future of OS to come.. Would like to hear more ... Bye For now , Regards, Shailesh =================================================================== They say LOVE is BLIND ................. But MARRIAGE is definitely an EYE OPENER ??? =================================================================== ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] IBM RS/6000 & Linux
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Sometime on Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:34:44AM +0530, Vishnu Lotlikar said: >> Hi, >> >> i have a RS/6000 machine lying idle in my company, can i sue it to install >> linux on the same, will GNU/linux support the hardware ??? >Sue whom? IBM? I'd be bankrupt if you could sue anything lying idle in the company. I'm reminded of a strip where Dilbert n gang go finger flicking coz no matter what they do, they are gonna get paid the same amount. Gishu

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grub removal
by K.Ponniah 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

hai friends, my sysem had a crash (harddisk) so the linux partion had been removed from the system and converted to fat-32 xp partition But the boot loader of linux doesn't get removed I want to "remove" the grub and load windows directly so that i can recover other files please help me urs, K.Ponniah Senthil ========================= Stylish Ur life with me.. ========================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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M$ stealing ideas? nah it's innovation
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 17 Apr '05

17 Apr '05

For the billybaba fans. http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3497561 " A preliminary injunction in a patent infringement suit filed by Alacritech could keep Microsoft's Longhorn from getting out of the gate. Microsoft (Quote, Chart) plans to ship its next version of Windows, code-named Longhorn, in 2006. But Alacritech claims Longhorn includes its intellectual property. " M$ innovation version 2005. rgds jtd

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Mandrake 10.1 Installation Report
by Rony Bill 17 Apr '05

17 Apr '05

Dear Friends, Got myself a dvd rom and the linux distros are now being tried out one by one. First the live cds were tried out. Knoppix 3.2 and Cool Linux. Knoppix is fairly good for a general live os setup. Cool Linux is a Russian distro and comes with a dvd player icon on the desktop itself. On booting, it gives a big list of boot options of different screen resolutions and kernel versions. This is a very usefull feature. This software is worth atleast to have a close look. The main software tried out was Mandrake 10.1. This is a 3 cd iso set and initially the installation does look dull with a low resolution keyboard only type interface. It had boot loader options like loading in the mbr or on the root partition. I wrongly selected the root partition and after reboot, nothing could be booted and I only got a grub prompt. The rescue option in the cd1 only reloads the bootloader, does not allow any changes. So the os was reloaded and this time the mbr option was selected. The os was loaded with the 'workstation' type installation. On reboot, it gave me choices of linux, and windows. Mandrake uses lilo by default. I tried to point to the rhel installation in /etc/lilo.conf but the lilo command reports failures. A peculiar feature of Mandrake is that root cannot log into the X mode. On typing a root password, the login window only giggles and wiggles. The root has console access only. In the console, a new user was created and this user gets X login and desktop. My sound card was detected without any hiccups. There is a very good all-in-one control centre that allows you to configure everything. It asks for a root password for access. You are still in user mode only. In this control centre there is a bootloader selection option and I chose grub on my root partition. This brought back my favourite loader and the /boot/grub/menu.lst was modified to point to the rhel os. Everything perfect. After the initial speedbreakers, I find that this is the most compatible distro to the new P4 systems. It has audio, video (media) players, a video editor too. The video player can play a video cd smoothly with excellent picture and sound with full screen mode too. There is a dvd play option too but I don't have a video dvd to test. The lx300 printer too got setup. My external modem gets setup in a jiffy using kppp. There are minor problems of no drivers available for my canon D646U scanner and the canon digicam. But as time goes by this may be available soon. There is a firewall that keeps you protected. The default desktop is the latest kde 3+ with nice little utilities. Open office is the latest 1.3 version. If anyone has a ppd file for lx300, please mail it to me. The linuxprinting site does not have it but it says that it can be available in your windows partition too, though its not in my xp nor in my winme. I have misplaced the driver cd. This file can be added to my driver in mandrake and this would enhance printing features. On a scale of 1 to 10, this distro gets between 7 and 8. Regards, Rony.

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Mail receiving problem
by Vdk khar 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

Hi I installed exim MTA and Pine on solaris 8. I am able to send mails to any address but not vice-versa. But mails are receiving from same domain. Plese help me.. Thanks & Regards Vishwas __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] FEDORA CORE 3 NETWORK WITH XP
by Sameer Niphadkar 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 ashwani mahajan wrote : >hi >i have a laptop with xp prof ,connected via ethernet >to a pc having windows xp and fedora core 3 as dual >operating system. xp to xp is networked perfectly.i >am also using remote desktop within two.can it be done >with fedora core 3 ? If yes how ? how about remote >desktop between fc3 and xp? Please help. > If on the network, use rdesktop in X. It is quite the same Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Perl Workshop
by Sameer Niphadkar 16 Apr '05

16 Apr '05

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 Harshal wrote : >On 15 Apr 2005 05:08:53 -0000 > >where is the info. related to perl workshop? Sorry for my error in posting, well here's the info -- Orignal Message -- From: paulalapatt <info(a)meetup.com> To: spniphadkar(a)rediffmail.com Subject: Perl Workshop Your Organizer, paulalapatt, sent the following message to the members of Mumbai Red Hat Meetup Group: Hi Everyone, For all those of you who always wanted to take up a black belt in the art of "Perl" programming aka camel riding, can grab all you can. A Bunch of members on the "Red Hat Group" have agreed to kick start a regular "PERL Hands on Workshop", and top it all its FREE!. If you have a low I.Q. and an undisciplined mind then you are all set for taking part in this amazing art of PERL programming. The skillset in PERL PROGRAMMING is a definite must for those of you who are looking at making a career in system management and advance bio-informatics and grid computing where PERL is widely used. So get in touch with me at "paul(a)bernardlabs.org" or buzz me on +91-9820187987. Anyone who would like to contribute in some way to this Workshop are most welcome. Take care, Da Organizer. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Government and Open Source
by jitendras＠vsnl.com 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

You may also visit www.janabhaaratii.org.in , another C-DAC site which is exclusively Free/Opensource You are invited to comment and contribute too. jitendra Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:04:40 +0000 From: "Dinesh Joshi" <dinesh_pro(a)hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Government and Open Source To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Message-ID: <BAY24-F39618193FF0FC728C7BDA5E0350(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga(a)yahoo.com> >The cdac site http://www.cdac.in is slow/not opening, so cannot get the >details >right now. But the effort if serious is great. They prolly have the server running on a 64Kbps pipe @ VSNL DC :P >If anyone is aware of more such Initiatives by the Government please feel >free to >post. Yep, I remember CDAC releasing iLeap(sp?) ( multi lingual word processor ). Shreelipi is another example. I think iLeap was for windows while Shreelipi was for Linux(or was it dos?). Regards, Dinesh.

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User creation in Red Hat Enterprise WS3
by Anthony Valankani 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Hi All! I have recently installed Redhat Linux Enterprise Edition with one of our customer. The problem i am facing is in user creation. Earlier they were using RHL 8.0. The user name are with (.) eg. (name.surname(a)domain.com). How do we create the same in RHL Enterprise Edition?, the error reported is "invalid username" We have done a full complete installation. Thanks Val __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Perl Workshop
by Sameer Niphadkar 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Just a fwd... Thanks Sameer Note: Forwarded message attached -- Orignal Message -- From: paulalapatt <info(a)meetup.com> To: spniphadkar(a)rediffmail.com Subject: Perl Workshop 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] about traning
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 13:05, milind nivruti bhosle wrote: > dear sir i am working with Linux last two years i am basically now > full installation,hardware/software problem & networking now i want > to learn much more networking please give about traning centre > thank you. Read up the networking howtos and nag docs which is available in most distros in /usr/share/doc. rgds jtd

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FEDORA CORE 3 NETWORK WITH XP
by ashwani mahajan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

hi i have a laptop with xp prof ,connected via ethernet to a pc having windows xp and fedora core 3 as dual operating system. xp to xp is networked perfectly.i am also using remote desktop within two.can it be done with fedora core 3 ? If yes how ? how about remote desktop between fc3 and xp? Please help. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by sanjeev chauhan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Buddy professional service cost lot of money. Also Red Hat don't support RH 9 anymore. So you are on your own. regards S --- sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:42, Richard Chang > wrote: > > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > > why dont you contact Redhat? > > > They have a paid subscription. > > > Or Novell who have the same. > > > > If he could pay Redhat, he would not had posted it > here. > > In any case if you can't or dont want to help, pls > don't discourage > > others by putiing these words. > > He is going to screw his server harddisk which is > most likely to have > important data. Telling him to get professional help > sounds > discouraging?? > > rgds > jtd > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents
by Roshan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

To: mailing List <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:55:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents Dear ALL, At hte meet of March in TIFR, I had raised a issue of Redhat Training Documentation RH-033 had some wrong info about GNU/Linux, It had mentioned that LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM was developed by Linus Torvald ( which defintely is not the case ) So I had discussed with Nagarjuna and Others in meet to raise the issue to redhat.. But now that I have checked their new documentation books of Training they have updated their entire contents for intro to LINUX,they have mentioned FSF ,GNU etc every thing look more OK So I guess their is no issue to be raised .... I was not in touch of the list for more than 15 days since monthend ... Was the meet for April conducted ?? Regards, Shailesh Sir, I am new to this community. Considering this post you have made is putting up a question that whether LINUX was really developed by LINUS TORVARLDS. Most of in this world, praise Linus for LINUX. Then, how is that, you say that Linux is not developed by LINUS TORVALDS. As far I know, LINUS has not developed LINUX "ALONE". But he's the main man behind KERNEL of every linux Operating System. Secondly, there are few group of people who are called as "hackers" who helped linus in developing LINUX. I dont intent to deny your facts but just want to clarify. You definitely have better knowledge. I am sorry if in anyways this email is not written in the professional way. _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by vaibhav samant 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

> > If internet is down, and if I try to ssh to the server from within the > > LAN the passwd prompt come late. What could be the reason for this. ------------------ >DNS. Or rather reverse lookup. Add a local (within LAN) DNS server >with forward and reverse entries for your local machines and make sure >this server is queried first. Your problem of "late prompt" will >disappear. ----------------- I only have one Linux Server in the LAn with Sendmail + Squid running. Do I need to configure bind for DNS, or is there a simpler way. Thx, Vai.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:42, Richard Chang wrote: > sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > why dont you contact Redhat? > > They have a paid subscription. > > Or Novell who have the same. > > If he could pay Redhat, he would not had posted it here. > In any case if you can't or dont want to help, pls don't discourage > others by putiing these words. He is going to screw his server harddisk which is most likely to have important data. Telling him to get professional help sounds discouraging?? rgds jtd

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Lug Meet
by Derwyn Dpenha 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

where and when is the lug meet for this month Derwyn

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Re:Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by Amit Karpe 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

Hi , I got some links from googling for "ext3 recovery" http://www.data-recovery-software.net/Linux_Recovery.shtml/?GGLAW070 http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm http://www.topshareware.com/Quick-Recovery-for-Linux-download-35898.htm "rlinux" utility may help you . http://www.bestsoftorder.com/R-Linux-download-261.html http://www.r-linux.net/downloads/rlinux_en_10.exe?swcom001 Actually there are lot of software to recover data from ext3 filesystem . Few are like "rlinux" , "Recover4All" and "Easy recovery" . Though they work on Windows they have good chance to recover your data on linux partition . PS : I am not a expert but I use "Easy recovery" that works for my friend . This is really easy to use software . -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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Anti-trust Act: Do we have something similar
by Abhishek Daga 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

I got this from the Codeweavers site. An excerpt available at: http://www.codeweavers.com/products/licensing/ Q) Can Microsoft prevent CodeWeavers' customers from running Microsoft applications on Linux? "A. No. Microsoft's end-user licenses do not preclude operating their applications under other operating systems. Were Microsoft to attempt to prohibit such usage, by requiring that Microsoft products be run only on the Windows OS, they would be in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. The Sherman Act precludes making the usage of a non-monopoly product dependent on the purchase of a monopoly product. Microsoft has been convicted of monopolist practices under the Sherman Act regarding their operating systems. As a result, they cannot legally make Microsoft Office dependent on having a Windows OS license." So on similar lines if any software vendor also says that their products will be supported only on a particular platform, would they be violating any Indian Law?" I know we have MRTP but does it apply to the case above? -abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Government and Open Source
by Abhishek Daga 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

CDAC has placed a half page color advertisement in the Mumbai Newsline (Indian Express) and probably other papers about "The release of Free Tamil Software Tools and Fonts". They include 220 Tamil fonts, Tamil Office Suite, Tamil Spell checker, Tamil Browser, Tamil Email, Tamil e-dictionary, Tamil OCR. Ravi Ventakesan, Chairman of MS India is also going to be present. The venue is Hotel Park Sheraton, Chennai, 5 PM on 15th April 2005. Can anyone give a first hand report? IF you are part of "ALL" you are invited. The cdac site http://www.cdac.in is slow/not opening, so cannot get the details right now. But the effort if serious is great. Nowhere is the need to develop low cost applications more serious for national development than India. Not only low cost hardware, but low cost software is essential too. The potential and applications are limitless. And only the Government, (whose primary mission in theory, is not-for-profit but for people) is in a position to drive such initiatives at such a scale as required. If anyone is aware of more such Initiatives by the Government please feel free to post. thank you, abhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] HDD Cable Problems.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Saturday 09 April 2005 23:40, Arun Khan wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 10:41 PM, Rony Bill <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > ... snip > > > What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like > > these? > If u connect a cdrom drive and a hdd on the same cable you are very likely to have a problem. > The thin wire IDE cables support ATA100/133. The regular IDE > cables support upto ATA66. The regular ide cable supports only ata33. The 80 wire cable is needed for 66/100/133 Mhz idebus speed. rgds jtd

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about traning
by milind nivruti bhosle 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

dear sir i am working with Linux last two years i am basically now full installation,hardware/software problem & networking now i want to learn much more networking please give about traning centre thank you milind bhosle

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Redhat has corrected it's Training Contents
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Dear ALL, At hte meet of March in TIFR, I had raised a issue of Redhat Training Documentation RH-033 had some wrong info about GNU/Linux, It had mentioned that LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM was developed by Linus Torvald ( which defintely is not the case ) So I had discussed with Nagarjuna and Others in meet to raise the issue to redhat.. But now that I have checked their new documentation books of Training they have updated their entire contents for intro to LINUX,they have mentioned FSF ,GNU etc every thing look more OK So I guess their is no issue to be raised .... I was not in touch of the list for more than 15 days since monthend ... Was the meet for April conducted ?? Regards, Shailesh =================================================================== They say LOVE is BLIND ................. But MARRIAGE is definitely an EYE OPENER ??? =================================================================== ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Thursday 14 April 2005 06:50, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > will work as is on any linux distro - you just need to install the > dependencies which also work as is on all linux distros compiled and installed wxpython on woody. Running avsap.py throws up this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./avsap.py", line 31, in ? from wxPython.wx import * ImportError: No module named wxPython.wx What should i do?? rgds jtd

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delayed SSH passwd prompt when internet down
by vaibhav samant 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Hi, If internet is down, and if I try to ssh to the server from within the LAN the passwd prompt come late. What could be the reason for this. Thx. Vai

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Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by Navneet Choudhary 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Hi folks, I am running redhat linux 9(Kernel 2.4.20-8) server on Intel P4 system, with Western Digital ATA 40GB Hard Disk(WD400EB-00CPF0, ATA DISK). This server is acting as Firewall & Gateway. Running squid & vsftp for local users. When i power on my system this morning , it shows below message (and as per message i run "fsck /dev/hda" without any argument/switch. For your information i have added "fdisk -l" & "df -h" (All output prior to system CRASH). NOTE: i've added /var/log/messages output of 13-04-05 at the END of mail. Checking root filesystem /============================= 49% /: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. /:UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY (i.e without �a or �p options) [FAILED] *** An error occurred during the file system check. *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot *** when you leave the shell Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue): (Repair filesystem)1# fsck /dev/hda1 fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) e2fsck 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) Couldn�t find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks� Fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/had The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem ( and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck �b 8193 <device> #fdisk �l Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40017485312 bytes 255 heads, 63 sector/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Block Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/hda2 14 2563 20482875 83 Linux /dev/hda3 2564 2628 522112+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 2629 4865 17968702+ f Win95 Ext�d (LBA) /dev/hda5 2629 4865 17968671 83 Linux [root@localhost root]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 17G 7.8G 8.4G 49% / /dev/hda1 99M 5.0M 89M 6% /boot /dev/hda2 20G 17G 1.6G 92% /home none 121M 0 121M 0% /dev/shm Any suggestion how to recover damaged filesystem (here it�s EXT3)?. Thanks in advance. Regards, Navneet Choudhary =====================#tail -300 /var/log/messages|more= [root@localhost root]# tail -300 /var/log/messages|more Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329827840 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329831936 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329836032 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329840128 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329844224 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329848320 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #19401 47 contains a hole at offset 1329852416 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: 03:05: rw=0, want=1098730844, limit=17968671 Apr 12 13:06:38 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,5)): ext3_readdir: directory #1940147 contains a hole at offset 1329856512 =================EOF================================= __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Redhat 9 Server Recovery - HELP
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 17:08, Navneet Choudhary wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am running redhat linux 9(Kernel 2.4.20-8) server > on Intel P4 system, why dont you contact Redhat? They have a paid subscription. Or Novell who have the same. rgds jtd

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format of the mailing list
by Richard Chang 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

>> The mailing list is configured to send digests >> only if you specifically ask for it. > > > Sorry, My fault. I have changed the options. > > Thank you for pointing it out. > > RC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip Tellis" <philip.tellis(a)gmx.net> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] format of the mailing list > > >> Sometime Today, RC cobbled together some glyphs to say: >> >>> Don't you think that the format of this mailing list is too >>> complicated. All the posts are sent in batch within a mail from the >> >> Not for me it isn't. The mailing list is configured to send digests >> only if you specifically ask for it. >> >> Also, could you wrap your lines at around 74 characters? >> >> -- >> "Regardless of the legal speed limit, your Buick must be operated at >> speeds faster than 85 MPH (140kph)." >> -- 1987 Buick Grand National owners manual. >> >> >>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 14:45, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > I have been seeing that off and on this list keeps > talking about Tally and how to run this on GNU/Linux? > Tally is not a free software, and I dont see why users > should discuss this on this list. > > On the other hand availability of accounting packages > is a big problem and several hackers are addressing > this issue, including some of our own list members. We > should discuss those issues. > > This list is not for discussing propreitary software, > but free software. I too have a similiar opinion. Except that in case of tally in India, it is the one package which prevents a complete windose free enterprise. So imho an exception is called for in this case as it will hopefully generate sufficient ire against tally / interest in free alternatives. And in any case we will have to discuss tally while working on alternatives. Which will have to continue as peutronics will start screwing the database formats in response to competition. Btw KG i have downloaded avsap abt 45 days ago. Guess it's time to shake the lethargy. Saswata has promised domain knowledge. The INSTALL instructions need to have distro specific sections for Debian. Also dependencies should be made available for debian alongwith the main package. Particulary wxPython which is not available on woody.And why cheetah. Cant we stick to apache. rgds jtd

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File size limit exceeded Error
by Amit Karpe 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Hi all, While following some Recovery HowTo ( http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments ) I got problem of "File size limit exceeded" . I use "dd" command to take backup of my partition . linux:/windows/h # dd if=/dev/hda2 of=fs File size limit exceeded linux:/windows/h # ls -lh fs -rwxrwxr-x 1 root users 4.0G 2005-04-12 04:09 fs linux:/windows/h # Please let me know which filesystem supports > 4.0 G filesize ?? Or is there any other way , to take backup of partition ? -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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Anyone tried to connect to the net via - Phone GPRS (MTNL)
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Couldn't use the net on my RHL 8 coz the modem doesn't seem to be supported. But the driver disk for the modem has a dir called Linux 6.1 full of .c files. Read me doesn't work. Anyways was wondering would it be possible to use the NGage QD as a modem with GPRS and connect ? Has anyone tried this ? Would it be better or worse than Dial Up? and the Million$ one can it be done via Linux RHL 8.0 ? Thanks, Gishu Pillai

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Re: RE: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

Update: The tally dealer insisted that their 6.3 will work on linux and they had CONFIRMED it from the Tally people itself. I asked how? They said some will work. I asked if there is a linux version of the installer, he said no, the same one will. I said it's not possible. Remember I want to use it as a server and client. He insisted. To humor him i said find, come and install. So the person comes to the office with the package, loads the CD on a RH9 platform and tries to run the setup.exe or install.exe file. Needless to say it did not work. But since I am no PHD in anything linux and would like to give a benefit of doubt before writing off somebody, was it possible that the person could have installed tally from the CD that they supplied? Remember even the package said the system requirements as Windows 98 n Above. So it's 10th April already and I am without a viable alternative Account package to Tata EX which is as Windows dependant as one can be. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

> > Tally 7.2 is now Linux certified > > Tally, the leading provider of accounting and inventory business application > solutions, has announced their partnership with Red Hat, the world�s leading > provider of open source to the enterprise. Tally 7.2 will now be made > available also on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux platform. Linux is less > vulnerable to viruses. The SME segment an now benefit from the advantages of > Linux - performance, security and value on the desktop. The objective of > this partnership is to provide the growing SME market a secure, stable and a > cost effective alternative for their computing needs. This topic is done to death without any solution resurrection in sight and since I recently fired the thread, i'll sign out of this thread atleast with this last message. I am not sure if "linux certified" (whatever that is) is same as Redhat Certified. Is there something like Linux Certified? What do they mean? Which entity certifies on the behalf of "linux"? Will it work on any and all distros? Is certification a definitive and closed statement of "We will only support what is certified" or a generic and open ended statement of "atleast works on this, rest go figure, we dont care". At the risk of sounding anal, it would be fair to say that Tally 7.2 is now Redhat certified. At this point i would like nothing better than to be told what I have just said is indeed a case of reading too much in between the lines, but thats how I see it. Lets talk about cloning Tally. Maybe call it Lally. abhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Finally I got my Data Back ( Reiser FS )
by Amit Karpe 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Hi all , Thanks to God and Linux Hackers who write down such helpful documentations. Finally I am able to recover my data back ;-)) It was painful night but got success to get my data back . Such joyful felling :-D you can imagine . I did refer this links to recover my data back . http://forums.infoprosjoint.net/showthread.php?t=5821 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/197 http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments http://www.martian.org/marty/archives/000888.html I use following command to recover my partition and data . I first create backup of my formatted partion into singal file of name "filesystempartition" . linux:~ # dd if=/dev/hda2 of=filesystempartition Using reiserfsck command I rebuilds the entire filesystem tree . linux:~ # reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S -l recovery.log filesystempartition . Create "recover" directory to mount "filesystempartition" using loop option . linux:~ # mkdir recover linux:~ # mount filesystempartition recover -o loop I change directory in lost_found directory where all my recover data will be present . But all files and directories are in number ( inode ). linux:~ # cd recover/lost+found/ So I search for my particular file "amit.doc" which was in "/home/amit/Documents/amit/amit.doc" . linux:~ # find | grep amit.doc ./1898_246487/Documents/amit/amit.doc I guess that "./1898_246487" is my "/home/amit" directory . linux:~ #cd ./1898_246487 linux:~ #ls And ha ha ;-) I found all my directories and files from my "/home/amit" directory . Simple reiserfsck and dd commands are help me to recover my data . This is magic of Unix . Thanks to GNU/Linux Community And Benoy , sherlock , Arun , Amol ,Seeking ,Anurag for giving +ve reply ;-) -- -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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Windows, Linux Help Desk
by Mr.Tejas 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

About this group Windows, Linux Help Desk The 24 hour support helpdesk is an all purpose helpdesk to answer your questions on computers, operating systems, software, internet, email etc. We may not have all the answers for you but we can generally point you in the right direction if we can't answer the question. Public website http://groups-beta.google.com/group/tejasdesai Owner : Tejas Desai Email tejasdesai(a)googlegroups.com New Page 1 Tejas Desai Email :desaitejas@gmail.com Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] FLOSS takes to the cricket pitch! (fwd)
by Mr.Tejas 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

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FLOSS takes to the cricket pitch! (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "suchenchodankar" <suchenchodankar(a)yahoo.com> Add Address Date: 2005/04/13 Wed PM 06:37:20 IST To: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: we have built a fantasy cricket game, visit www.superteam05.cjb.net and register Hello, I am a Suchen G. Chodankar(from Durbhat, Ponda) student of final year I.T. Engineering course at Goa College of Engineering, Farmagudi. Me and my class-mate Sagar Arlekar(from Calangute) has designed a web based fantasy cricket game. This game is similar to superselector on espnstar.com . The game is built using open source and free software. Apache- web server PHP- scripting language MySql- database We are thankful to the open source community. This game was started as a semester project in Jan 2004, at that time the project had 7 members all students of I.T. Engineering course, Goa College of Engineering. In Jan 2005 we restarted the project work, added new features to it and made it fully functional and put it online. You can register at www.superteam05.cjb.net. We already have about 60 users registered. The game is free to use, open to all and easy to understand. You just have to select a cricket team of 11 players that includes 5 batsmen, 4 bowlers, 1 allrounder and 1 wicket keeper. Your team will gain points as the players selected by you score/perform in real matches. You compete against other users. The game closes at the end of the month. We have a message board on the site to gain your feedback. Enjoy playing superteam. Thank You Suchen G. Chodankar END OF FORWARDED MESSAGE _____ _/ ____\____ Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/ \ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ ----------------------------------------------------- Sign up for low-volume, high-quality news summaries and updates from Goa at http://newsfromgoa.swiki.net * It's free and volunteer-driven.

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tally thread
by SeekingGyan 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

i think tally and linux thread is no longer relevant. someone asked if tally worked on linux ... list responded ... dont know what is the fuss about it now ? if anyone who is willing to pay for tally and is ok with the vendor lockin but still wants to move out of windows into linux .... i will consider it a first step towards moving to FLOSS ... not bad .... someday when oss equivalent of tally will be ready and he will gladly move to it for those who are really serious about teaming up to build FLOSS accounting package for indians sud possibly team with existing projects, contribute and accelerate the process. no point reiterating the point on the list .... a SIG sud be created for this and serious attension sud be paid .... i wud be more than willing to be a test user for it Regards Harsh

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Adobe restores Reader's Linux support.
by Nadiem 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Adobe Reader is now available for Linux again. Download Link: http://www.adobe.com.au/products/acrobat/readstep2.html Regards, Nadim. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Wednesday 13 April 2005 14:37, Devdas Bhagat wrote: > On 13/04/05 11:30 +0500, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > What ever gave you the idea that free and open databases are not > > tried and tested. Postgres (renamed firebird db ) and Mysql are > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > When did THAT happen? Firebird is the Borland Interbase database, > one version of which was GPLed. Sorry. It's not renamed. But i distinctly remember that it was to be renamed for the 8.xx series and a spat about some other project with a similiar name. And 8.xx was to include a lot of the borland codebase as per an interview with the developers. rgds jtd

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[Commercial] Developing File Systems
by Concepts Systems 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Hello All, Concepts has always been in forefront for providing software professionals with right directions, methodology to ensure that they remain on cutting edge of development and continue to win, with quality training from experienced Industry Experts. We are extremely happy to announce next batch of "File System Driver Workshop for Windows" from 23rd April 2005. During workshop, our team of Device Drivers professionals will be on hand to discuss: 1) Advanced I/O Manager Concepts 2) Virtual Memory System 3) Introduction to File Systems 4) FSD Architecture for Windows 5) FSD Core Functions and Auxiliary Functions 6) Fast I/O Operations 7) Case Study 8) File System Filter Drivers 9) Case Study Don't miss this opportunity to see first-hand how Concepts illustrates File System Fundamentals across the windows platform with a discussion of broader operating systems issues for developers as well as practical issues related to development of FSD and Filter Drivers. Prerequisite: Participants must have an understanding of Windows Kernel Mode Drivers Total Duration: 30 Hrs (Weekend Batch) Cost: Rs. 6000 per participant Venue: Concepts,Kothrud, Pune,India. If you have any queries feel free to mail us at info(a)conceptssys.com or contact us on 020 - 25381126. Seats are Limited. Entries only with prior registration. Thanks & Regards, Team, Concepts. http://www.conceptssys.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Tally and Linux
by Derwyn Dpenha 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Had to ask all the gurus who use tally, can u import the data into another database. ie.mysql, sql, oracle, (I know i'm going to get abuses for next two) access, sql. If the answer is no have you ever thought what are we all going to do if tally tomorrow closes shop? Think about it. As far as Tally 6.3 goes no i've not suceeded in doing this one even through wine. But I have seen a pirated version of tally 5.* work on wine, u will have to change the path in tally.ini file as to where the data is beeing stored (search the archives it's discussed before). Tally claims that 7.2 has a linux version (with rpms for redhat) I've written to them for a demo (No luck). Derwyn

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Hi (Recently joined member)
by Roshan 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

I have subscribed to this group through the website. But I am unable to understand the procedure of posting messages, helping people who are facing difficulties in linux and receipt of the digests. Please give a stepwise information about how to go about posting messages, replying to people and other stuff. I wish to contribute a lot to the linux community and was very much happy to know that you had a small session at K. J. Somaiya College of Engg. and I.T. at Sion. However, unfamiliar of this group then, I could not attend it. However, I would like to attend a few. Currently I am doing BSc I.T. (Second Year). Hoping to get a quick reply. _____________________________ www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001 ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 15:49, Erle Pereira wrote: > Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > Does this application support Export of data to any > > other standards? What freedom users have? Are > > the users locked in? etc. > > Asked my aunt to check with the accounts department to verify if > there is a way to export data /use the data with anything else. > > The answer was a firm "NO". Afaik you could export in csv format. I think it was 6.0. Also Peutronics targets the CA community with free and highily discounted offers.Which forces everybody else to use tally. I had purchased tally in 95 and had a big spat with them about their requirement of installing OS2. I wanted it to work on windows 95 (jeez the idiocity - but then hindsight is a very exacting science). And had them sign a clause that they will give me the windows version free of cost. They did in 97 after threatening them with legal action. Two years or so ago a tally rep calls up and asks me which accounting package i use. Tally i say. He says that they have a special super discount for users of pirated tally. I ask him about legit users. He says sorry no discount. He then wants to know my licence number which ofcourse i refuse to give. Imagine trying to find that stupid dongle (which takes half an hour to crack anyway) in my junk box. He then threatens legal action. I told him i would love nasscom or whoever was their shill to raid me as it would guarantee my happy retirement to hawaii. Which reminds me of licensing issues discussed a few days back. Turns out that you cannot combine with gpld code anything (data, code, images, logos, anything) whose terms of distribution violate the gpl. So if RH suse whoever includes their logo in a piece of gpld code and then asks you to remove that logo from the code, they are violating the gpl. Which means that you only have to remove logos which are standing alone. Then copy and redistribute to all and sundry. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 13:23, Abhishek Daga wrote: > But someone raised an interesting question. > What if Tally were to shut shop (remember what your mother told you > about "never say never"), and given that it's a proprietory > Database, sure a lot of people will be bambooed to high heavens. Aha. Tally refuses to support older versions, without paying for all the upgrades. So dont wait for Tally to shutdown to get screwed. You are already screwed. > The generic problem statement as I see consists of the following > parts: a) Using a database that is not proprietory and tried and > tested while being tinkerable..(mysql or postGres) What ever gave you the idea that free and open databases are not tried and tested. Postgres (renamed firebird db ) and Mysql are perhaps tested more than all the others and on wildly varying load and hardware conditions, and the formerly closed databases Ingress, SAP, and many others are also available under the gpl. > b) An accounting system, maybe a clone of Tally. It's critical that > it should be a clone, even if tally is not perfect. Else you'd have > a lot of reluctant migrants. It should only import data. I think most CAs are smart enough to see and learn a better alternative in a matter of hours. And all of them are sick to death of the windows disease. > Instead of asking if anyone is keen to take the initiative, let's > say I am taking the intiative. Surely I am not the first one to > think about this. But with some commitment and convergence of > initiatives, it can be a feasible alternative. I Just installed avsap. Why dont you. We can collectively rant at KG ;-). rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GRUB failure
by ryan coelho 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Dear Vickram, You have to define where is your /boot directory is it kept in a seperate partition or is with the root partition, if kept seperate use your redhat bootable cd , at boot prompt type linux rescue and then type chroot /mnt/sysimage, then type in grub-install --recheck /dev/hdax (the partition no. of /boot) at the prompt. Restart your machine Ryan. On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 Vickram Crishna wrote : >Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB failure, Error 15. I have tried several times to reload the GRUB loader, using RH9 disks and also Ubuntu (the latter does not have any way to install GRUB without committing to partitioning), but despite apparent success during the process, it always returns the same error. > >Query: should I try Lilo? I must have the ability to boot to either OS. >-- Vickram > >-- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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