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Reg. Diskless Nodes
by Jawahar K Manickam 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

Dear Friend, This is Jawahar, Sys.Admin from Gandhigram University. Until now we are working in Windows platform and we have planned to change over to Linux and mainly for Dikless workstation (we are having nearly 50, 486 machines. I have tried all the possibilities in www.ltsp.org and all other site you have mentioned. But i am receiving error Kernle Panic, No init found. So if you can please send me a step by step procedure (for a new man to linux) for installing Diskless workstation. Thank You Expecting your valuable reply. Jawahar.M Jawahar Manickam

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Software legislation - crazy legislation in VA, MD in USA...
by Dinesh Bareja 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

Hi folks Sorry but I just have to share this too. It is a dangerous trend this article talks about and this makes a stronger case for Open Source to be pushed more aggressively. The Business Software Alliance (BSA) mentioned in the article has shades of a Big Brother in the making !! Is this really an indication of the shape of things to come ?? <http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,890836,00.asp>SICK OF SOFTWARE? STAY AWAY FROM VIRGINIA (AND MARYLAND TOO) Crummy UCITA Legislation is Back Imagine a world where software reviews are illegal. Imagine a world where it's illegal to even criticize a program you don't like. Well you don't have to imaginethem's the law in Virginia and Maryland. OK, so you don't live there. You're still at risk! John C. Dvorak bemoans the state of these moronic laws, and adds a twist of his ownhe gets a cool $1,000 every time someone sends him email. Find out how you can protect your rights, and turn your e-mail into gold too! Best wishes - Dinesh Bareja (m) +91 98203 0159 (t) +91 22 2878 9067 (e) dinesh(a)ideagrid.com ====== http://www.ideagrid.com ====== winning strategies ! simple ideas !

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Interesting happening - Opera <> M$
by Dinesh Bareja 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

Hi folks A little bit of fun in the browser wars ... Goes to prove that you should not mess around with a good thing :-) <http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,890280,00.asp>HILARIOUS OPERA HACK TWEAKS THE LION'S TAIL Those fun-loving Swedes over at Opera Software just crack me up! After Microsoft's MSN served up broken web-pages to Opera's browser, they could have griped and sued. But rather than get mad, they got even, and released a very special "Swedish Chef" version of their lightweight browser. It grafts my favorite Muppet's nearly unintelligible cadence onto MSN's home page. Need a laugh? You gotta see the screenshot we took on Valentine's day. Sample text: "Send a lufe cerd: Sveet, sexy and foon." Bork Bork Bork! Best wishes - Dinesh Bareja (m) +91 98203 0159 (t) +91 22 2878 9067 (e) dinesh(a)ideagrid.com ====== http://www.ideagrid.com ====== winning strategies ! simple ideas !

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Support for GNU/Linux in Mumbai...
by Optimal Solutions 19 Feb '03

19 Feb '03

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making a case for linux system
by manoj＠bhu.ac.in 19 Feb '03

19 Feb '03

Hi Friends I am a linux enthusiast and exclusively use linux for computing. I am working in a government University where IT and communication infrastructure are in the process of big change. The complete university network is being upgraded to gigabit net and university administration is being totally computerized. At this juncture a very crucial decision needs to be taken. That is regarding the proprietary vs open source software base of the system. I would like to impress upon the authorities to go in for open source softwares. There are supporters of this view but there are also many more who have lots of apprehensions about this. I want to give a talk on this issue to make a very strong and compelling case for GNU/Linux systems. I need ideas regarding the presentation to make it a success. Regards, Manoj

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Required Expert Trainers on Linux: Ref G Sagar
by Mitesh Vageriya 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Dear: We require expert professionals to provide training and workshops on Linux(System Administration, Configuration, Kernel Programming, Networking, Installation, SAMBA, NFS, NIS). We are looking for people who are available on Saturdays and Sundays. Please mail your resume emphasizing on your expertise and experience in Linux. Also mention your current profession and expected remuneration per day[8 Hours]. Selected individuals shall have to dedicate 1 to 2 days for providing training on the topic of their expertise to engineering graduates. Yours truly, Mitesh L Vageriya Bit Wise Solutions

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where are feb14 pics
by Harsh R Busa 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

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Support for GNU/Linux in Mumbai...
by FN 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

I was in Pune recently, and was just discussing with some NGOs the possibility of using Free Software (following the lead that Greenpeace South Asia has given). Could anyone give me links to persons offer commercial but-reasonably-priced support that might be suitable to NGOs and non-profit organisations in a city like Mumbai? Many thanks. FN -- _____ _ _ _ | ___| __ ___ __| | ___ _ __(_) ___| | __ Freelance Journo, Goa India | |_ | '__/ _ \/ _` |/ _ \ '__| |/ __| |/ / http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | _|| | | __/ (_| | __/ | | | (__| < http://www.bytesforall.org |_| |_| \___|\__,_|\___|_| |_|\___|_|\_\ http://opennews.indianissues.org -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.409490 / 409783 Writing with a difference... on what makes *the* difference

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LinuxForYou... what's in issue # 1
by FN 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

India's first GNU/Linux magazine made it to the newsstands recently. The first, inaugural February 2003 issue contains: ON THE CD------------------------------------------------- * Knoppix with bundled software (Open Office, KOffice, Mozilla Navigator, Mozilla Mail, Konqueror, GIMP, Ksnapshot (screen capture), XFig (geomatrical figure editor), QCAD (CAD software), XMMS (autio tool), games, KGeo and KStars (educational), KDevelop (the "Linux cousin of VC++) NEWS REPORTS---------------------------------------------- * Axis (Mass., US) launches Linux system-on-a-chip * Hyper-threading can speed up Linux by 51 per cent HT makes a single processor behave like two logical ones. * Hong Kong trio unveils Chinese GNU/Linux OS for mobile devices * Red Hat presepares GNU/Linux for technical workstations * Ark -- another distribution for the desktop "for the masses" * Linux ver 2.6 (kernel) by first half of 2003 * Sony, Matsushita plan GNU/Linux audio-video software * Red Hat shifts to carrier-grade * New IP videophone features embedded GNU/Linux OS * Cellphone makers may go the GNU/Linux way too INDIA NEWS------------------------------------------------ * Font contest winners spurn Microsoft, go LGPL * GNU/Linux-based handhelds -- Simputer and Kaii from B'lore * Let's make an 'apnalinux' -- creating one's own distro using Anaconda, and tweaking a RedHat distribution (how-to guide) * VIA C3 800 MHz, 20GB HDD, 64MB Hynix RAM, Asus motherboard, Aztec modem, FDD and headphones e-pc for Rs 11,990 and above without monitor. * Cygsoft Inc's ManageIP -- network management solution Free trial online at www.cygsoft.com * Intrusion detection software from nSecure www.nsecure.net * LG's GNU/Linux-based MY PC Rs 33,900 for basic model and Rs 36,500 for the multimedia model (P4, 128MBRam, 40GB, LG 15" monitor, LG 52XCDRom, optical mouse, keyboard, speakers) * LX50 server from Sun Microsystem * Mithi Software, Pune offers Connect Server for GNU/Linux. * Kalculate -- an Indian accounting package for GNU/Linux * TechnoInfosys brings GNU/Linux-based net management system Check www.technoinfosys.com This comes from Navi Mumbai. * Storage strategy software for GNU/Linux from Veritas, Delhi * Website (Kerala) offers Dodobase, instant web catalog publishing product. www.websight-tech.com * Star Office 6.0, Sun Microsystem's affordable software... * Bicnet offers eBiz integrated solution (pre-sales management, sales catalogue, shopping cart, auction floor, general ledger and financial accounting, inventory, e-recruitment, customer relationship mgt) www.bicserve.com * Rolta's security and messaging products for Indian corporate networks www.rolta.com * Octopus (Mumbai) offers complete enterprise mgt solution * E-mail manager from Data Impex (Delhi) * RTLinux gains support in India * Indian govt's move to "let in [GNU]Linux" FEATURES-------------------------------------------------- * GNU/Linux@Home -- it can coexist with Windows * KDE's KOffice -- an office suite that delivers * GNU/Linux certification -- The right choice? * Introducing RedHat 8.0 * SCO Linux 4.0 * Websites that offer more info on GNU/Linux (www.tldp.org The Linux Documentation Project, www.linuxlinks.com, www.linux.org, www.redhat.com, www.linux-india.org) * What's Knoppix? * Knoppix -- software bounty * Guide to running Knoppix * Shape and trim your Linux kernel * Red Hat's installation blues * Ten tips to make your life easier * What is a diskless PC? * Developer's basics: A world of shells... * Penguin programmer (developers basics) * Overview of GNU/Linux for the embedded appln developer * "Govt must declare [GNU]Linux the official OF of India," Sudhir Gandotra, CEO Indserve InfoTech * Is [GNU]Linux good for government? * Linux TCO -- a bitter harvest? * Penguin soup is the soul of IS managers * GNUCorner: Open Source -- a brief journey through its times (Err... could someone explain what GNU has to do with Open Source? Wasn't one trying to get away from the other?FN) MISCELLANEOUS--------------------------------------------- * CERTIFICATION: Linux-based products, tested and tried by LFY Lab, will earn the 'Linux Friendly' certification. Other common IT products that work without any hassles to get a 'Tested OK' mark. * EDITORIAL: Initial discussions about LINUX For You raised a few eyebrows, accompanied by soul-searching questions... Key question -- why a magazine on [GNU]Linux? (Many times accompanied by -- are you going anti-Microsoft?) Pay Rs 50 (that's the cost, including the CD) and see if you like it. Don't forget to send in your suggestions to efylinux1(a)electronicsforu.com -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.409490 / 409783 Writing with a difference... on what makes *the* difference

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RMS in Mumbai !
by Dileep M. Kumar 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Date: 14th February 2003 >>Richard M. Stallman will be in Mumbai on the 14th of February 2003 to >>speak on GNU and Free Software at the Quadrangle of VJTI, Mumbai. Have this speech recorded. Is it available for download. Regards -- .''`. Dileep M. Kumar <dileep(a)kumarayil.net> : :' : http://www.kumarayil.net `. `'` `- Debian GNU/Linux - Choice of the Freedom Lovers

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Re: DEBATE what cud have goa done....
by Gurpreet Singh 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

hi all what are friend "cromium" (nice name ;)... ) says is... LET THE STUDENTS START WITH M$ AND ONCE THEY KNOW HOW TO USE THE COMP U SHIFT THEM TO GNU/LINUX(right??) i certainly disagree dear, coz in that case what the students get to learn in windoze and not the compy. i am off the veiw that the world today is having these probs in switching over bcoz **they have grown with windoze** now what we need is that a child when he starts learning how to use the computer, sud start off with gnu/linux right away... he will anyways have that problem in learning windoze so why not have that trouble for something better... infact that is why i want to stress on the point that we shud aim at the spread to gnu/linux in the **schools** and i raised this point at GNUnify in pune too... we have been organizing workshops in engg colleges n all, WHY NOT TARGET A FEW SCHOOLS NOW?? this goes out as a spl request to ppl like trevor, dinesh bhai, dr nag. lets get to a few schools, at least as an experiment.. wat say? regards Gurpreet Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Perl Beginning Books
by Meeta Kherdekar 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Hi, you will find a good collection of technical books at, 1) http://freebooks.by.ru/ bye meeta

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Perl Beginning books
by akshaysalkar 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

I have a good perl book for seccond hand. Programming Perl - Larry Wall you can purchase from me at approx Rs.400 regards. email me at akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com -- linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: nyone having ideas regarding free ebooks for it . or ny good book to begin with -- _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy the best in Movies at http://www.videos.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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[OT] fwd: {SPAM?} ADV: Enjoy a spam-free inbox
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Hi all, Here's a message that I got recently. As you can see its from some dot-com who thinks its good at handling spam. The mail itself got marked as "SPAM" on the IITB servers, by the way! ;-) ----- Forwarded message from Spam Arrest <info(a)spamarrest.com> ----- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:19:09 -0800 From: Spam Arrest <info(a)spamarrest.com> X-Scanned: By Symantec Carrier Scan Server Subject: {SPAM?} ADV: Enjoy a spam-free inbox To: "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" <sameerds(a)it.iitb.ac.in> You may remember recently sending an email to a Spam Arrest customer, and receiving a response asking you to visit our website and type in a word that was shown to you in a picture. <snip> ----- End forwarded message ----- I do remember getting such a mail from a person named Rishi on this group. And I had replied to him saying that please try to keep mailing lists out of this hassle. Now through him spamarrest decides it has found an email address worth sending adverisements to, which I consider spam. Does that mean Rishi is responsible for my account getting these mails? Is there any place where I can discuss this with people involved in tackling the spam problem? Sameer.

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GNUnify diary for 16th ....
by Ravindra Jaju 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

I was lucky enough to visit GNUnify. A short write-up for the 2nd day at: http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/articles/?id=160203gnunify -- jaju

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Confussion in DRBD and ENBD
by Srinivas 18 Feb '03

18 Feb '03

Hi all I am having some little bit of confussion in DRBD and ENBD(Enhanced Network Block devise). Drbd is a file system for mirroring systems across a LAN. Enbd does same thing but it is not a file system. I am not understanding the exact difference between these two. What is the full name of DRBD. any one plz help me. thanx in advance. Regards Srinivasa Rao NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. 11-20, 2nd Lane, Appu street, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. Phones:24617193/94/95. Extn:34

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re:DEBATE: What could Goa have done with ten million rupees..
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

On Monday 17 February 2003 10:47, Cromium C wrote: > * Lacture by Richard Stallman @ VJTI on 14th Feb. 2003 @ 6:00pm. * > Hi everybody, > > I am an avid Linux fan. But we have gotta face it: > what the CM of Goa said was right: in their present > avataars, all distros of Linux, including Redhat 8.0, > are difficult for kids. What is the basis of this statement? have you done any study? > We have to keep in mind that > in a classroom, there are roughly three varieties of > kids: sharp, average, and dumb. We have to try and > cater atleast to the first two. And Linux distros are > NOT good for average beginners (though the sharp > beginners might take to them like fish take to water.) > The solution is to let the kids have the M$ > handholding at first. Let em have it easy. After they > have picked up the basics, they can move over to > Linux. Absolute rubbish. Unlearning bad habits is a far more difficult, time consuming and costly process. Even worse is that you are spending money to inculcate bad habits (the worst being paying money to buy rubbish). > Especially when they are ready for some > programming action. Its very bad to start learning > your programming on an M$ platform. (just as its very > bad for an average guy to start learning to use a > computer on a Linux platform.) You are confusing familarity with learning ability. For a peson who has never used Win98/95, using GNU/Linux is as easy as learning something new. After he is familiar with Linux he finds it only little more complicated (but a lot more frustrating) using win98. I say this from first hand experience with my 6 year old nephew and his friends. This group were a motley group of neighbourhood kids ranging from 3 yrs to 10 yrs, some going to convent schools and some to vernacular. They used the PC mostly for games. They would happily boot into windows or RH6.2 (this was in 2000) and play whatever games they had decided to play. What did they prefer? The 3 to 5 yr olds most suprisingly preferred linux and it's simple games like smashing billgates. The others preferences depended on which game they liked. some fell for quake, some for flight simulator or car racing and hence linux. my nephew played NBA which was available only on win98 and used that mostly, but kept nagging me to get the linux version because windows would crash. Bottom line - arbitary statements made without basis are not useful. And I much prefer truthful hotheads than the pleasant misinformed. > > There are gonna be some hotheads here who will flame > me. But before doing that, just apply your > commonsense- No not commonsense but observation. You will surprise yourself with the results. > your level of intellect ain't shared by > all em kids at Goa. The CM of Goa being an IIT guy, > could see that. You dont need Einstein's abilities to start an application on a pc my friend - a 6 yr old is clever enough to use one. Suprising that an IIT alumini fails to understand the learning process (which IMHO is what the IITs are all about). rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] DEBATE: What could Goa have done with ten million rupees..
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

On Monday 17 February 2003 00:42, FN wrote: > ... if this money was not paid to Microsoft for software licences > for some 3000 Std XI science students, on the excuse that GNU/Linux > is too-difficult for them to cope with.... Maybe this decision was influenced by the faculty, who would have to do some "hard" learning. Decisions like these are part of a more complex problem in (our) society - the "qickfix" mentality. It has seeped into all aspects of society. The vast majority of students today study not with the intent of aquiring knowledge but solely with the aim of aquiring a degree - a passport to a job. Most do not have the foggiest idea of what goes on behind the screen, let alone the unholy machinations of governments and bussinesses. Visit a bank, or a railway booking centre. Are the people at the counter doing anything intelligent?. Or a hotel, a restaurant - are the waiters and receptionists doing anything intelligent. The vast maority will be destined for jobs like these. They will be only consumers not creators of resources, most will become obstructions in the path to more effecient societies. And why do we want to rely on the government for anything? Why did the colleges not take the initiative to become autonomous and independent?. IMHO cause that brings responsibility and uncertainty. Governments and bussinesses are busy exploiting the inability of society to accept responsibility. So what has this got to do with GNU/Linux. The target audience. So far the target has been users. We should now focus on the decision makers in educational institutions. How about a workshop for lectures and professors in Maharashtra. Self help with a little help from your friends that's what GNU/Linux is about. (I promise i will deliver a lecture on embedded systems at this workshop ;-)). Society expects somone else to foot the bill so we have "subsidised" education, travel, petrol, housing, software - GNU software being the exception - the subsidy being far more expensive than the unsubsidised product elsewhere. In the case of Libre software not only is it cheap, it has a multiplicator effect as pieces of code are reused to create evermore useful stuff, thus making it even cheaper. > > o Set up a Free Software Research Lab that would have build assets > of a permanent nature -- of the human kind > o Invest in additional 500 computers, at approx Rs 20,000 per Why do they not make the students assemble the machines. That would nearly halve the price. And the senior students maintain them. That will cutoff recuring costs. And the software students write apps to solve the counter clerk problem and ...... > PS: Of course, don't expect politicians and decision-makers to be > convinced by arguments such as these... Oh but you dont need the politicians any way. That is half the problem solved. What can Goa do without ten million rupeees. A lot. Starting with empowering the faculty with GNU/Linux. ^^^^^^ rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re:DEBATE: What could Goa have done with ten million rupees...
by Cromium C 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Hi everybody, I am an avid Linux fan. But we have gotta face it: what the CM of Goa said was right: in their present avataars, all distros of Linux, including Redhat 8.0, are difficult for kids. We have to keep in mind that in a classroom, there are roughly three varieties of kids: sharp, average, and dumb. We have to try and cater atleast to the first two. And Linux distros are NOT good for average beginners (though the sharp beginners might take to them like fish take to water.) The solution is to let the kids have the M$ handholding at first. Let em have it easy. After they have picked up the basics, they can move over to Linux. Especially when they are ready for some programming action. Its very bad to start learning your programming on an M$ platform. (just as its very bad for an average guy to start learning to use a computer on a Linux platform.) There are gonna be some hotheads here who will flame me. But before doing that, just apply your commonsense- your level of intellect ain't shared by all em kids at Goa. The CM of Goa being an IIT guy, could see that. Hola, Cromium. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT]? AMD system turns off by itself
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

On Sunday 16 February 2003 21:36, Satya wrote: > * Lacture by Richard Stallman @ VJTI on 14th Feb. 2003 @ 6:00pm. * > AMD K6-2, slightly underclocked, turns off spontaneously. The only > thing I suspect is heat damage to the CPU or mainboard, and want to > confirm if possible before I buy a replacement. Which mobo? ASUS P5AB has some bug in the lmsensor hardware and needs monitoring to be disabled. But mostly cpu overheating or ram overheating due to cpu overheating. Change the cpu heatsink to a larger one (the one used on celeron). You can now overclock a bit. Add an extra chasis fan or run the system without a cover. I am using two K6-2 550MHz systems one with celeron heatsink and one open cabinet. Both work perfectly. > > Possibly related: Linux requires the no-hlt boot parameter, > otherwise kernel oops. At least with 2.2.x kernels. Mine runs on 2.4.18 kernel. Earlier it ran RH6.2 and potato. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Commercial - Programmer, Support Engg.
by Kamlesh Shah 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

This is only for freshens looking for opening and having dedication for excellent results. Requirements: Awareness of Linux, OOPS, Programming in any language, Graduate, Resident of Mumbai. Also inform your friends looking for opening... Apply to pitcom(a)vsnl.com Regards Kamlesh Shah

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DEBATE: What could Goa have done with ten million rupees...
by FN 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

... if this money was not paid to Microsoft for software licences for some 3000 Std XI science students, on the excuse that GNU/Linux is too-difficult for them to cope with.... o Set up a Free Software Research Lab that would have build assets of a permanent nature -- of the human kind o Invest in additional 500 computers, at approx Rs 20,000 per computer o Refurbish, many times over, the local Computer Society of India-Goa chapter's computer lab and thus create a permanent training asset which could be optimally utilised to bring in real local returns for many years down the line o Built up about a hundred community centres, each with about five computers, o Invest in about 10,000 external 33.3 kpbs external modems (purchased in bulk at approx Rs 500 each) plus hundred hours of Internet access, to phenomenally expand Net access among students already owning computers in Goa o Buy about 20,000 books (each priced approx at Rs 500) that would give students a complete how-to understanding of GNU/Linux, inclusive of one or two CDs each containing an entire distro. o ... any other ideas you have, please add to this list. FN PS: Of course, don't expect politicians and decision-makers to be convinced by arguments such as these... -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.409490 / 409783 Writing with a difference... on what makes *the* difference

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[OT]? AMD system turns off by itself
by Satya 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

AMD K6-2, slightly underclocked, turns off spontaneously. The only thing I suspect is heat damage to the CPU or mainboard, and want to confirm if possible before I buy a replacement. Turn-off is independent of activity, OS, and ambient temperature (happens in Windows, Linux, with and without A/C). System has 2 hard drives. The whole thing is about 3-4 years old. It is not a power supply problem, as I changed the SMPS with no effect. The power switch seems ok, I will check the reset button later. Possibly related: Linux requires the no-hlt boot parameter, otherwise kernel oops. At least with 2.2.x kernels. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> I only counted 100 Dalmatians...

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Re: [ilug-goa] Responce to CM's Comments......we need to help em out
by Trevor Warren 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

Hello all, good-evening. There are various perspectives to this story here. One of the most important ones to be looked into an introspected on is the need for proper documentation/training along with the machines that are being dolled out the students in goa. Lets not give the government an oppurtunity to complain. If we have given so...then lets learn from those mistakes of ours. We should make it a point to have setup the appropriate infrastructure to support such a noble cause. Any of us who has the capability to bridge the gap between the techies and the bureaucracy should make it a point to touch base with the appropriate authorities and brief them on a plan of action. Any investment can guarantee ROI only if the same is executed in a valiant fashion with due planning. If any of these important elements fail to live up to the expectations the ROI can be nullified to a great extent. So....lets get together, sit across the table, hash out a plan and chalk out a strategy to get back the earlier plan of GOG on the road again. Am ready for any sales pitches to be made to any of the imp beaureaucrats. Infact if any of us from the Bombay Gnu-LUG can help out please let us know.....we will be ready to attack. Have a nice day all...and lets all get together and do our best. Trevor On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 09:10, Vithal Sadanand Sukhathankar wrote: > Dear GNU > > Hi! > > It was suprising about CM's comment ( its not b'cos fishy...). He > being from IIT he should'nt have pass that comment. no way do MS > prod. are eassy and bug freeeeee!!!! too. How much he or his > advisor have used Linux? If something is really good and free one > should not mind about the little ( I seriously dought about LINUX > GUI support) complexity of the product. More the sofisticated more > the complex. > > I think some one should show him KNOPPIX CD he might ( if not > fishyyyy motive... ) change his view about LINUX. > > >PPS: It was most disappointing to hear the chief minister claim > >in > >the Goa assembly that GNU/Linux was "too difficult" for the > >school > >students. This needs to be contasted against the GoG's to > >avoid > >giving even a decent guide along with the Free Software they > >installed, while at the same time being willing to spend a crore > >(ten > >million) rupees on Microsoft's proprietorial product. Is there > >a > >fishy smell in the air? > > Regards > > Vithal > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/FpY02D/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/0XFolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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Set the Path
by Amol Gokhale 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

Hi, How do I setup the path for a user. All my new installed apps are not in the path so I can't use tab to autocomplete. Amol

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16 Feb '03

hi, The following positions are open in our organisation. Average work experience required is 2 years. Promising freshers will also be considered for trainee positions. Send in your resumes to careers(a)consultmosaic.com. - cnb ------ Linux Support Engineers Task: Installation and support of linux based systems (Mail, Firewall, Proxy Servers) Skills Sets: - Experience with: Qmail, squid, iptables, LDAP, MySQL Knowledge of: C, Perl, PHP, shell scripting ------ Programmers (PHP/Perl) Tasks: Developing web based software * PHP - Indepth knowledge of PEAR, Smarty, IMAP, LDAP, MySQL, GD functions. * Perl - Mail_* modules, linux system scripting * Shell scriping, (bash, sh) ------ Programmers (TCL/Oracle) Task: Extending the Arsdigita community system * Experience with TCL scripting, Oracle * Knowledge of the Argsdigita (non java) community system

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[commercial] Job oppurtunity
by jawanrc＠softhome.net 15 Feb '03

15 Feb '03

hello All, We at Wipro Infotech at looking for people with excellent skills in VB and ASP and decent skills in java/linux. The reason, i'm putting up this request over here, is that most of the ppl here are studs. You can send ur resumes to me [rahul.chaudhary(a)wipro.co.in] and/or Sunita pati [sunitap(a)wipro.co.in] warm regards Rahul Chaudhary

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how can I start ssh in redhat 6.2
by vaasu 15 Feb '03

15 Feb '03

Hi all How can I start ssh service in redhat 6.2. In redhat 7.2 "/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start " means it start ssh demon. I install openssh in redhat 6.2 but iI am not getting the service. So any one plz help me. Thanx in advance. -- Regards vaasu

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PPPD is not geting activated
by Vinod Bhaskar 15 Feb '03

15 Feb '03

Hi friends, When I connect to the net using wvdial, some times, pppd is not geting activated. But connection is through. This is happening not regularly. Some times pppd will be activated and there won't be any data transmission. The problem which I am facing is the set of uploading command in my ip-up.local file is not geting executed some times. But when I connect through kppp dialer, there is no problem. pppd is geting activated always and there is proper data transmission. It is functioning well whenever I connect through it. I had set crontab for wvdial for dialing the net at regular intervel. Please suggest me how to overcome the problem. Regards, Vinod.

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Why 6.2 is more stable.
by vaasu 14 Feb '03

14 Feb '03

Hi all. Why people called redhat 6.2 is more stable then other versions.(like redhat 7.2 & 8.0). Any one plz help me. Thanx in Advance. -- Regards vaasu

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Knoppix pronounciation
by Amish Munshi 14 Feb '03

14 Feb '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, I found this in the FAQ of knoppix. I found most of us ignore the k in knoppix when pronouncing it. Hope that this helps improve us. F: (english only) What is the correct pronounciation for "Knoppix"? A: As opposed to the usual pronounciation of words starting with "K" in english (like "knight"), the "K" is not silent in german. So, the correct pronounciation (if you are an english reader) would read "k'nop-iks". Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+S8zfbCDhioPGUZ4RAsGGAKDkUuc3hjyveGiHu4v28gliD6J48gCguB3F zlzyAeZJ6kMa2pWN6xj9Ztk= =Mnal -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Required Expert Trainers on Linux: Ref G Sagar
by Mitesh Vageriya 14 Feb '03

14 Feb '03

Dear: We require expert professionals to provide training and workshops on Linux(System Administration, Configuration, Kernel Programming, Networking, Installation, SAMBA, NFS, NIS). We are looking for people who are available on Saturdays and Sundays. Please mail your resume emphasizing on your expertise and experience in Linux. Also mention your current profession and expected remuneration per day[8 Hours]. Selected individuals shall have to dedicate 1 to 2 days for providing training on the topic of their expertise to engineering graduates. Yours truly, Mitesh L Vageriya Bit Wise Solutions

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[OT] [ACM] Seminar on "Peer to Peer computing" by Vivek Mehta
by Philip S Tellis 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

ACM Seminar - Peer to Peer (P2P) Computing Speaker: Vivek Mehta Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu; timing: 6:30pm Friday Feb 14, 2003 Venue: NCST Juhu, Entrance: Free Abstract: P2P computing is being recognised as a very important trend in the networking world. Defined as the sharing of computer resources and services by direct exchange, P2P computing is enabling a new wave of applications with the potential to revolutionise the way computers are used. Napster, Scour, Gnutella, SETI@home are examples of successful P2P applications. In this seminar, we try to answer the following questions with respect to P2P computing: What is P2P? Why P2P? What is it good for? What are the various issues in developing a P2P application? About the Speaker: Vivek Mehta is currently working as a Staff Scientist in the Knowledge Based Computer Systems (KBCS) division at NCST. He works on projects in Natural Language Processing like Machine Translation and Natural Language Interfaces. Apart from NLP Vivek is also interested in Parallel Processing and Data Structures & Algorithms. Vivek is also a faculty for the Data Structure & Algorithms and Natural Language Processing modules offered at NCST. Getting to NCST: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to Check wvdial is active
by Amish Mehta 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

I dont know but this should help. For details read man pppd. Use ipparam as 'wvdial' parameter in wvdial peers file. This will be passed as sixth parameters when ip-up is called. In ip-up.local check for this field. If it is 'wvdial', then wvdial is active else it is not wvdial. And then call ncftp accordingly. Amish. Vinod Bhaskar wrote: >in my ip-up.local file. (This is for automatic upload of file to my ftp >site.) > >I am using kppp and wvdial to connect the net. What I need is the above >ncftp command has to work only if I connect through wvdial and tt should >not work when I connect the net through kppp or any other dialer.

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How to Check wvdial is active
by Vinod Bhaskar 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Hi friends, I have given the command ncftpput -u diehc -p ***** ftp.cfg.net /tmp /tmp/abc.txt in my ip-up.local file. (This is for automatic upload of file to my ftp site.) I am using kppp and wvdial to connect the net. What I need is the above ncftp command has to work only if I connect through wvdial and tt should not work when I connect the net through kppp or any other dialer. How to do that? Please suggest. Regards, Vinod.B

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List of colleges to be covered
by jitendra 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

List for putting up posters Add names not listed. Add area/email and postal addresses/phone numbers anyone knows Pick and choose which you can cover and let me know. Posters will be supplied. Jitendra Arts & Commerce Colleges 1. Burhani College of Commerce and Arts 2. K.J. Somaiya College of Arts and Commerce 3. Sadhana Education Societys L.S. Raheja college 4. Balasaheb Khardekar College 5. Kankavli College 6. Nayanadhish Tatyasaheb Athalye Arts and Vdmurti S.R. Sapre Commerce College 7. Shri S.H. Kelkar College of Arts and Commerce 8. S.K.Patil Mahavidyalaya 9. N.K. Varadkar Arts and Dapoli Commerce College 10. Vidya Prasarak Mandals K.G. Joshi College of Arts and N.G. Bedkar College of Commerce 11. Bhartiya Seva Samaj Sanchalit College of Arts and Commerce 12. Shikshak Sanchalit Shikshan Sansthans Arts & Commerce College 13. Shri Swami Vivekanand Shikshan Sansthas Arts and Commerce College 14. Arts and Commerce College, Jawahar 15. Our Lady of Grace Trusts St. Gonsaqlo Garcia College of Arts and Commerce 16. Dnyan Vardhini, Shahapur College of Arts and Commerce 17. Ghanshyamdas Saraf Girlss College of Arts and Commerce 18. Panvel Education Societys College of Arts & Commerce 19. Gokhale Education Societys Evening College of Arts and Commerce 20. Dnyan Bharati Societys Sau Sitabai Ramkrishna Karandikar College of Arts and Commerce 21. Rajasthani Seva Sangh College of Arts and Commerce 22. The Education Societys Arts and Commerce College, Ambarnath K.M.S.P. Mandal Sant Rawool Malharaj Mahavidyalaya of Arts and Commerce 23. Kankan Ganapeeths College of Arts and Commerce 24. Janseva Shikshan Mandals College of Arts and Commerce 25. The Kokan Muslim Education Societys Arts and Commerce College for Women 26. The Kandivili Education Society College of Arts and Commerce 27. Mangaon Shikshan Prasarak Mandals College of Arts and Commerce 28. Raigad Dnyan Probhodini College of Arts and Commerce 29. Cosmopolitan Education Societys College of Arts and Commerce 30. Vivek Education Societys Arts and Commerce Arts & Science Colleges 1. Wilson College 2. Ramnarain Ruia College 3. Sophia College for Women Arts, Science & Commerce Colleges 1. St. Xaviers College 2. Rishi Dararam National College and Wattumal Assomul Science College 3. Elphistone College 4. Ismail Yusuf College 5. Guru Nanak Khalsa College 6. Peoples Education Societys Siddharth College 7. Kishinchand Chellaram College 8. Parle College 9. Jai Hind College, Basantsingh Institute of Science and J.T. Lalvani College of Commerce 10. N.M. College of Arts, N.M. Institute of Science and Commerce 11. D.G. Ruparel College of Arts, Science and Commerce 12. South Indian Education Societys College of Arts, Science and Commerce 13. D.E. Societys Kiriti M. Dongursee College of Arts, Science & Commerce 14. Mithibia college of Arts 15. Chauhan Institite of Science and Amrutben jivanlal College of Commerce & Economics 16. Maharshi Dayanand College of Arts, Science and Commerce 17. Sir Sitaram land Laldy Shantabai Patkar College of Arts and Science and V.P. Varde College of Commerce and Economics 18. Hazarimal Somani college of Arts and Science and Jayaramdas Patel College of Commerce 19. R.K. Talreja College of Arts, Science and Commerce 20. Maharashtra College of Arts, Science and Commerce 21. Smt. Chandibai Himathmal Mansukhani College 22. Bhiwandi Nizampur Nagarpalika Arts, Science and Commerce College 23. Annasaheb Vartak College of Arts 24. Kedarnath Malhotra College of Commerce and E.S. Andrades College of Science 25. Seth Laherchand Uttamchand Jhaveri College of Arts and Sir Mathurdas Vissonji College of Science 26. Ramniranjan Jhunjhunwala College 27. Janata Shikshan Mandals Smt. Indirabai G. Kulkarni Arts, J.B. Sawant Science and Sau Jakibai Dhondo Kunte Commerce College 28. Arts, Science and Commerce College, Panvel 29. Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar College of Arts, Science and Commerce, Mahad 30. R.P. Gogate College of Arts and Science and R.V. Jogalekar College of Commerce 31. Dr. Datar, Science, Dr. Behere Arts and Shri Pilukaka Joshi Commerce College 32. Birla College of Arts, Science and Commerce 33. S.P.K. Mahavidyalaya 34. Khopoli Municipal Council College 35. Gokhale Education Societys Arts, Commerce land Science College 36. Rayat Shikshan Sansthas Modern College 37. D.S.P. Mandals K.V. Pendharkar College of Arts, Science and Commerce 38. Vivekanand Education Societys College of Arts, Science and Commerce 39. N.G. Acharya and D.K. Marathe College of Arts, Science and Commerce 40. India Culture League Education Societys College of Arts, Science and Commerce 41. Arts, Science and Commerce College Rayat Shikshan Sansthas Arts, Science and Commerce College 42. Ratnam College of Arts, Science and Commerce 43. St. Andrews College of Arts, Science and Commerce 44. Malad Kandivili Education Societys Arts, Science and Commerce College 45. The Kelkar Education Trusts College of Arts, Science and Commerce 46. Rizvi Education Society College of Arts, Science and Commerce 47. Sonopant Dandekar Arts, College, V.S. Apte Commerce and M.H. Mehta Science College 48. Rayat Shikshan Sansthas Arts, Science & Commerce 49. Nagar Yuwak Shikshan Sansthas College of Arts, Science and Commerce 50. Royal Higher Education Society, Arts, Science and Commerce College 51. Guru Nanak Vidyak Society, Arts, Science and Commerce College 52. Pen Education Societys College of Arts, Science & Commerce Training College (B.Ed.) 1. Secondary Training College 2. Mandar Education societys College of Education 3. Sahyadri Shikshan Sansthas B.A. alias Bhaisaheb Sawatn Adhyapak Mahavidyalaya 4. St. Xaviers Institute of Education 5. Smt. Kapila Khandwala College of Education 6. Bombay Teachers Training College 7. Hansraj Jivandas College of Education 8. Chembur Comprehensive College of Education 9. The Gokhale Education Societys College of Education & Research 10. Gandhi Shikshan Bhavans Smt. Surajba College of Education 11. St. Teresas Institute of Education 12. Seva Sadans College of Education 13. Government College of Education, Panvel 14. Government College of Education, Ratnagiri 15. Shikshan Vikas Mandals Shri Shantaram Krishnaji Pantwalawalkar College of Education 16. Somaiya Vidyavihar College of Education 17. Sheheed Dunichand T. Kallani Memorial Trusts College of Education 18. Mahatma Education Societys College of Education 19. Anjuman-I-Islam College of Education 20. Nagrik Shikshan Sansthas College of Education 21. Guru Nanak Vidyak Society 22. The Janseva Shikshan Mandal 23. The Society of Our Lady of Grace Convent College of Education 24. The All India Khilapat Committee Education 25. Shetkari Shikshan Prasarak Mandals Gurukrupa College of Education 26. Maharashtra Cosmopolitan Education Society College of Education Engineering Colleges 1. V.J. Technical Institute 2. Sardar Patel College of Engineering 3. Konkan Education Societys Engineering College 4. College of Engineering 5. K.J. Somiaya College of Engineering 6. Vasantdada Patil Engineering College 7. Watumull Institute of Electronic Engineering and Computer Technology 8. Bharati Vidyapeeth 9. Vivekanand Education Societys College of Engineering 10. Anjuman-I-Islams M.H. Saboo Sadik College of Engineering 11. Fr. Conceicao Rodrigues College of Engineering 12. Mahavir Education Trusts Shah land Anchor Kutchi Engineering College 13. Ramrao Adik Institute of Technology College of Engineering 14. Nagar Yuvak Shikshan Sansthas College of Engineering 15. Thadomal Shahani Engineering College 16. Mahatma Gandhi Mission college of Engineering Science Colleges 1. The Institute of Science 2. B.N. Bandodkar College of Science

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Rgd display driver
by RAHUL MORE 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

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Projects
by Amish Munshi 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I think we have lots of project to offer, I want to develop Improved mailing list manager, A software similar to flash and I am also planning for one search engine similar to google.com (I do not know if one already exist so I am analysing this project). In my opinion we are short of developers, we probably should stress on this when RMS is here and we have lots of people interested in doing something good. We need to arrange for workshops and seminars on development on linux just after a few days after RMS visit and inform everyone about the same when RMS is here (May be at the RMS speech at VJTI). We definately need to spread the word about the ILUG-BOM mailing list, gforge site and PRC when he is here. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+RhgYbCDhioPGUZ4RAttRAJ0Yq2Vd+6l2WoNZPSyKSuJONDUjxgCfRh78 SZ42ns9wNz/eJHtee/PZ0mY= =/dD6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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How to Append in a file (FTP)
by Vinod Bhaskar 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Hi friends, I have a web space and I am using ncftp function to upload the text file on web. (Eg. abc.txt) . Next time when I upload the same file, the old file get erased. Instead of erasing I want to append into abc.txt. I have used ncftp using -A option for doing that. But I have received an error that " Server is not permiting to Append/Restart Try again. The file abc.txt is having full access permissions. Please suggest me the alternative. I am able to append in to a file ( abc.txt) through the php modules available on web. But when I do through FTP, append mode is not working. Regards Vinod.B

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Unsubscribe me from the list
by krishna kumar 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

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Meetng on 9th March
by Amish Munshi 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, I think many people will be willing to know about more about OSS/FSF/GNU/Linux,etc after the RMS visit. I am planning to hold the meeting on 9th March, let me know if there is any problems with this. Can someone confirm about the Ruparel as venue. Please send me the topics on which you are interested in giving a semnar on. Bye. - -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust. Visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/imp for my public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SijJbCDhioPGUZ4RAuExAJ4ytea72r9DQ/Boq0rMfpuW5jGhRQCbBvrx hj1rLwP5T3gJZnShjzIdupE= =+VXi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Banner to be made
by Nagarjuna G. 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

URGENT! We need to quickly but properly get banners made with the following content, of about six feet length, clearly written preferably sanserif font. Blue banner, with white letters. preferably on a velvet or a good quality cloth for future use also. This one to appear on the stage: ------------------------------------ Free Software Foundation of India http://www.gnu.org.in ------------------------------------ And another one for the stall: ------------------------------------ GNU/Linux Users Group of Mumbai http://www.ilug-bom.org.in ------------------------------------ Volunteers to close to IIT may get this done. I got one contact of MR. David (ph:25791785). This is opposite IIT middle gate. Please take initiative and get this done. Please discuss with him and let me know the cost. We need this latest by thursday. You can leave the banner at Dr. Vijaya Shaw's Clinic (25789233). This is Dr. Jitendra Shaw's wife's clinic. Nagarjuna

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pop3 arguments
by Pradnyesh Sawant 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

in mail #775, abhir joshi had described some of the pop3 arguments (e.g. USER, PASS, LIST, DELE, QUIT) that cud b passed 2 the pop3 server 2 delete mails directly from the server w/o d'loading them. i tried the above cmds with my email service provider, the LIST cmd shows only the mail no. & size. i also checked some of the RFCs for pop3, but none of them gave me any cmds that i cud use. i wud like 2 learn about more such cmds & some sites/ books where i cud get some info about them. i actually want 2 write my own pop3/smtp based email client as my software engg project. any help regarding the pop3 & smtp cmds wud b greatly appreciated. thanx! -- Pradnyesh Sawant ( The Doubtfire ) Ph: 27703060 B.E. I.T. (V.E.S.I.T.) 004, Anand Math chs, Sindhi Society, Chembur, Sec - 19, Nerul, Mumbai 400 071. Navi Mumbai 400 706.

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[ot] apeal for old pc's ver 2.0
by q u a s i 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Folks and Linuxers, I was overwhelmed by the response I got from this community regarding the apeal for old PC's. The following may interest you: Yesterday's Times Of India carries a front page article about malnutrition in children in Mumbai city. It is mostly based on a study carried out by Dr.Hatekar from the University of Mumbai. He has been working relentlessly for the past 2-3 years for the betterment of underprevlidged children in this city. You may contact him on 26426321 or me on 9821578007 if you are interested in helping. He has regestered a NGO so that donations are tax-exempt or something. I sincerely thank the only person who responded to the previous appeal. thanks for your patience, -- quasi Utopia Unlimited!

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enbd
by Srinivas 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Hi all, I want to know abt ENBD(Enhanced Network Block Device). Can any one help me regarding that. Or any link will be of greater help. Mainly i want to know the architecture of ENBD. Thanx and regards Srinivasa Rao NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. 11-20, 2nd Lane, Appu street, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. Phones:24617193/94/95. Extn:34

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Info regarding setting up a Linux Usre's Group
by manoj＠bhu.ac.in 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Hello everybody, I would like to know the complete process of starting a Linux User Group. I do not have any idea about this process and would like to have as much information as possible. regards, Manoj Kumar Singh

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difference between rsync and enbd.
by Srinivas 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Hi all I want to know the exact difference between rsync and enbd. What is the Internal Architecture of ENBD(Enhanced Network Block Devise). Thanx in advance -- Regards vaasu

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Re: Problem with g++
by Sankha Subhra Som 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

On Monday 10 February 2003 11:47 pm, you wrote: > Yes -- if this sucks so much, write a wrapper over your cout > call that will always append a newline (endl) to your output. > Do you know how operator overloading works? Do you know about > streams in C++? Create your own thin-wrapper output stream with > the << operator overloaded to append endl in each call. This is > not essential but a good exercise for character building. > > In short, GET A BOOK and LEARN C++! [snip] Thanx. Yes writing a wrapper class would definitely do the trick. But isnt it unnatural to have to flush the buffer manually. Writing a wrapper will fix the problem, but can you tell me what the source of the problem is? Regards Sankha [snip] > -mj -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

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does anybody knows pop and smtp addresses of hotmail ??
by Nisarg Rav 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

hello friends .. i'm a linuxlover and now started ussing linux as my personal desktop as well i'm an linux administrator in one isp & i'm managing more then 10 live linux based mail, web ftp and dns servers. now the thing is i want to donwload mails from my hotmail account. so i want POP and SMTP addresses for hotmail which i can use on linux .. waiting for reply .. regards rav >From: "Tushar K. Vilankar" <tushar(a)admin.iitb.ac.in> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: The lInUx Luggers <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Invitation Fees >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:07:44 +0530 (IST) > > >is the entry for the same FREE ?A > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >GNUnify! The All India Free Software Festival >16-February-2003 Venue: Symbiosis Vishwa Bhawan, Senapati Bapat Road, >Ganesh Khind, Pune - 4. > >Time Themes Symbiosis Vishwa Bhawan > >09:30-10:30 Welcome and Opening Ceremony > Dr. S.B. Mujumdar (Chancellor SIEC Deemed >University) > >10:30-11:00 Morning Tea Break > >11:00-11:40 IT Industry and GNU/Linux > Mr. Atul Chitnis (CTO - Exocore Consulting) > "Linux/OpenSource on Corporate Desktop" > >11:40-12:20 Free Software in Education > Dr. G. Sivakumar (Head of Computer Center - IIT >Mumbai) > > "IIT Bombay's Network and Systems setup > and the crtical role of GNU/Linux in it". > >12:20-1:00 Prof. Jitendra Shah (Senior Lecturer - VJTI, >Mumbai) > "Free Software with Localisation in Education" > >01:00-02:00 Lunch Break > >02:00-02:40 Future Tech > Mr. M Sasikumar (Senior Research Scientist - NCST) > >"A.I. Demystified" > >02:40-03:20 * * * Made In India > >o Mr. Venky Hariharan (MediaLabs) and Mr. Guntupalli Karunakar (IndLinux) >"GNU/Linux localisation and its usage, esp its relevance to our country." > >p Mr. Naba Kumar (Software Engineer - Belzabar Software Development India >Pvt Ltd.) "Anjuta IDE for C,C++ on GNU/Linux" > >03:20-04:00 > > Mr. Samyeer Metrani (Group Manager Embedded Systems - Encore Software >Limited) "Simputer" > >04:00-04:30 Tea Break > >04:30-05:10 Government and GNU/Linux > > Dr. S.Ramakrishnan (Senior Director - > Department of Information Technology > - Government of India) > >05:10-05:30 Introduction and Felicitation of Guru > >Dr. Nagarjuna (TIFR) Introduction to RMS > >Dr. T.M. Kanvinde (Director - SICSR) Felicitation > >05:30-07:00 The Guru Speaks >Mr. Richard Stallman (President and Founder of FSF) >"The Free Software Movement and the GNU/Linux Operating System" > >7:10-07:30 Free Software Song and Vote Of Thanks > > >-- >Regards, >Neo [Thomas Anderson] >from the "The world of MATRIX which is an simulation & a creation of >machines equipped with Artificial Intelligence." > > > >-- >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Invitation Fees
by Tushar K. Vilankar 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

is the entry for the same FREE ?A ---------- Forwarded message ---------- GNUnify! The All India Free Software Festival 16-February-2003 Venue: Symbiosis Vishwa Bhawan, Senapati Bapat Road, Ganesh Khind, Pune - 4. Time Themes Symbiosis Vishwa Bhawan 09:30-10:30 Welcome and Opening Ceremony Dr. S.B. Mujumdar (Chancellor SIEC Deemed University) 10:30-11:00 Morning Tea Break 11:00-11:40 IT Industry and GNU/Linux Mr. Atul Chitnis (CTO - Exocore Consulting) "Linux/OpenSource on Corporate Desktop" 11:40-12:20 Free Software in Education Dr. G. Sivakumar (Head of Computer Center - IIT Mumbai) "IIT Bombay's Network and Systems setup and the crtical role of GNU/Linux in it". 12:20-1:00 Prof. Jitendra Shah (Senior Lecturer - VJTI, Mumbai) "Free Software with Localisation in Education" 01:00-02:00 Lunch Break 02:00-02:40 Future Tech Mr. M Sasikumar (Senior Research Scientist - NCST) "A.I. Demystified" 02:40-03:20 * * * Made In India o Mr. Venky Hariharan (MediaLabs) and Mr. Guntupalli Karunakar (IndLinux) "GNU/Linux localisation and its usage, esp its relevance to our country." p Mr. Naba Kumar (Software Engineer - Belzabar Software Development India Pvt Ltd.) "Anjuta IDE for C,C++ on GNU/Linux" 03:20-04:00 Mr. Samyeer Metrani (Group Manager Embedded Systems - Encore Software Limited) "Simputer" 04:00-04:30 Tea Break 04:30-05:10 Government and GNU/Linux Dr. S.Ramakrishnan (Senior Director - Department of Information Technology - Government of India) 05:10-05:30 Introduction and Felicitation of Guru Dr. Nagarjuna (TIFR) Introduction to RMS Dr. T.M. Kanvinde (Director - SICSR) Felicitation 05:30-07:00 The Guru Speaks Mr. Richard Stallman (President and Founder of FSF) "The Free Software Movement and the GNU/Linux Operating System" 7:10-07:30 Free Software Song and Vote Of Thanks -- Regards, Neo [Thomas Anderson] from the "The world of MATRIX which is an simulation & a creation of machines equipped with Artificial Intelligence."

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