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relay deny to authenticated users
by mails＠munshi.dyndns.org 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Hi, I just realized that uu.net (appear so me to be an ISP) has many spamers are their clients. I am wondering what is the solution to this. If a spammer will signup for a account from uu.net then he can authenticate himself and send spams to many people. How can uu.net stop this? It appears to me that uu.net is listed as a spaming domain (sorry for this slang language but I do not have the proper term for this) and mails from this domain are not accepted if we disable the mail delivery from blacklisted domains. How can I as a sysadmin make sure that uu.net spams are not welcomed but genuine users from uu.net are no problems. Thanks in advance. Bye.

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linux cross reference
by Kiran Nadgir 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

good site for browsing the code... http://lxr.linux.no ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kiran Nadgir Mahindra British Telecom. Tel : 56922000 extn - 8070. Mobile - 9820444403. Email - kirann(a)mahindrabt.com WebSite: www.mahindrabt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Quote of the week ~~ " If I have seen farther than other men, it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants." Sir Isaac Newton ~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com

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[OT] Availability of OpenBSD CDs / ISOs ??
by Vishal Belsare 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Can anyone tell me where I can procure OpenBSD CDs for i386 ? I have checked on linuxplaza.org, they've FreeBSD on offer. Or if anyone has OpenBSD CD's for i386 which they could lend? V i s h a l . ____________________________________ He is subtle, but not malicious. ~ Albert Einstein.

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purging the archives of "privileged and confidential" messages
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Here's an example: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20021125/007744.ht… ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Obviously we are disclosing, copying and distritbuting this message by storing it in our publicly accessible web archive. Shouldn't we be removing all such messages? Not to mention the fact that the message was meant for "a specific individual" ... we are anything but that :-) Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You'll wish that you had done some of the hard things when they were easier to do.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is this months LUG meet
by sameer shinde 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

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[OT] Indiatimes Article "Windows servers cheaper ... "
by Nikhil Kale 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Check out this article: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/comp/articleshow?artid=3012… Whats the catch?? Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. NikhilKale(a)linuxmail.org NikhilKale(a)indiatimes.com -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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[OT] We have the way out????
by Nikhil Kale 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Somebody ought to do something about this: http://wehavethewayout.com/ Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. NikhilKale(a)linuxmail.org NikhilKale(a)indiatimes.com -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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Agenda for the LUG meet
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi Amish ! Could you send me the agenda for the LUG meet. I can then put it up on the ILUG-BOM site. Cheers Kapil Karekar

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Poll for location
by Amish K. Munshi 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, I have created a poll for the preffered location of meetings. Please visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/~amish/polls/ and post your poll. Thanks. Bye.

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Wine,Dine and Network(tweak)ing
by Jeetu 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hey all, Am new to the list and relatively new to Linux in general, though have been using it as my primary OS for quite sometime now and luv it :) I'm using Debian 3.0 with kernel 2.4.18 and my research interest is in the field of Natural Language Processing (NLP) - a subset of AI. I have my open source project called Mother (http://mother.sourceforge.net) Have a few queries and would really appreciate if I could get some help on them : a) Over a period of time have been trying to follow the Wine project and it's progress. I'm quite impressed by it. Recently I've been trying to install Office 97 on it using wine-20021125 and the installation fails after it searches for installed components. Any ideas on how to get it goin?....and I use OpenOffice and just wanna see if I can get this going to guage the progress of Wine (basically trying to see how long it'd be before I can run my VB based inventory software at work which is currently under development under Linux....then I can run Linux at work :) ). The Wine newsgroup doesn't seem to respond to this, however there are ppl who say Office 97 is running for them....if anyone here knows how then i'd appreciate. b) I have a Realtek 8139 based NIC and it runs great. I'm using the BSES Powersurfer Broadband service. I get speeds similar to those I get under Windows and was wondering if there's tweaking I can do that'd help improve that. My network interface comes up during bootup as set in half-duplex mode....is that due to the card? or due to the network?? basically can I set this to full duplex? or is there any other way to significantly improve speeds. c) The Konqueror file browser upon trying to unzip a .tar.gz file seems to do it very very slowly, for huge files, when compared to the tar utility. Is that a bug or is there something i should do to set it right? d) Anyone here knows of any project (or app) that aims to bring Voice Chatting abilities to MSN clones under Linux. I know the aboves quite a long list of questions.....thanks a lot in advance for all the help. Bye for now

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] how bout a free os anthem??
by Gurpreet Singh 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 1 Dec 2002, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > how bout an anthem for the movement?? > >http://geektones.com/gm/tm/alt_bluescreen.htm [snip] oh plz dear! we have to be "pro linux" i think we are concentrating more on being "anti M$"... i wanted to say this all the while, but did'nt. ppl, why do have to be soooooooooo anti M$. lets leave them alone. we have a betta thing with us, lets be more of "pro linux" regards gurpreet > >-- >You need more time; and you probably always will. > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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SUID, c shell script
by mails＠munshi.dyndns.org 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hello all, Approx a week back I got the info that I need to use a C program to execute a command a root for web scripts (PHP). I have given that a try, I created a addnewhost.cpp : #include <stdlib.h> int main() { system("/usr/sbin/useradd newusernewuser"); return 0; } Compiled, linked and suid it as (Did this as root) g++ -c addnewhost.cpp g++ -o addnewhost.bin addnewhost.o chown root.root addnewhost.bin chmod 4755 addnewhost.bin But when I try to run the addnewhost.bin as a normal user it says useradd: unable to lock password file But runs fine as root. Any clues where should I go next. All I need to do is execute some command as a superuser but from a PHP page. Thanks in advance. Bye.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Software license tied to human rights
by Kiran Nadgir 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

> Message: 8 > From: Bhargav Bhatt <bhargav.bhatt(a)columbia.edu> > Organization: Columbia University > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Group urges limits on open source > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 03:17:31 -0500 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Kiran Nadgir wrote: > > <nothing new> ---8<--- Yes yes nothing new.....nice to know that luggers are more interested in showing off their intelligence (egos actually) on the way msgs are posted rather than on the msg. Which gets me to ask myself a question....do these great intelligent people really care about GNU/Linux and this mailing list or do they care more about showing off their egos here. Yes i could've posted a link to the article instead of cutting and pasting the whole thing. BUT i pasted it because last time i had posted some link i had got a reply that the site required a passwd etc. So just to make sure no one faces any problems i pasted the WHOLE article. This takes me to another topic, Major problems in the world exist because people don't percieve things in the same way. Everyone has their own point of view about things. Even i have one but most of the times i don't let my EGO blurr the actual view. So yes i agree that i have posted mails with an unacceptable "signal to noise ratio" and i have changed that. But sometimes rather than following the HERD and coming up with such comments on someone you should try and think about all the possible reasons for a person to do something. And in this case i don't think i have done anything wrong . But as they say advice is something the wise don't give and the fools don't take ( i know people will reply to this specific statement of mine (thats my perception :) ) Yes i have realized that my mail signatures were unncessarily HUGE and have reduced it. But if someone still wants me to teach netiqutte this is what i would have to say to that person. @#!@#!#! > Kiran, > =09Whats the point of just copying and pasting from websites and filling=20 > up our mailboxes? You would be far better off providing a short=20 > paragraph and a URL for the article.=20 ---8<--- Yes my dear friend i could've been better off..but i did this with a reason. and i really don't care what you have to say. > =09Also, by not making a mention of your source, you are violating the=20 > copyright rights of cnet.com. Quoting their website, "Re-use of any of=20 > CNET's editorial content and graphics online for any purpose is=20 > strictly prohibited. The materials from CNET's sites are available for=20 > informational and noncommercial uses offline only, provided the content=20 > and/or graphics are not modified in any way, all copyright and other=20 > notices on any copy are retained, and permission is granted by CNET.".=20 > =09Please don't provide illegal(assumiing you have not obtained explicit=20 > permission from the source) documents on the mailing list and make us a=20 > part of the *crime*. > =09Also, the disclaimer attached to the email states that "This message=20 > (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended=20 > for a specific individual and purpose". Does that not make your email=20 > totally useless for any mailing list with more than one member. It=20 > means that this email was meant only for the person who uses the=20 > address linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, and that all the rest of us=20 > getting this message should "delete this message". Also the disclaimer=20 > makes linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, or whoever the list admin is, a=20 > criminal because the disclaimer also states that "copying, or=20 > distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 > is strictly prohibited." ----8<---- <NOTHING NEW> I have already mentioned about this one my dear friend. If you don't want me on the list u can unsubscribe me anytime ......I am using my corp id because its convinient AND AGAIN FOR YOUR CONVINIENCE....THE GUIDELINES OF THIS LIST DON'T TALK ANYTHING ABOUT DISCLAIMERS. SO either make sure the guidelines are changed or just stop displaying your intelligence on this topic. > > For those who want to read the article in its original form, its=20 > available at the following link > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-975578.html?tag=3Dfd_top > -----8<---- Thanks for the link ....:) that was nice. > Bhargav Bhatt, > Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, > Columbia University. > -- > "If English was commutative, we could all talk like Yoda." - Anonymous. > > > --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 01:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: kishor bhagwat <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Software license tied to human rights To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > --- Kiran Nadgir <kirann(a)mahindrabt.com> > wrote:(nah..pasted) ---8<--- yes yes i pasted is that such a BIG problem ??? > err..some ppl have already gently suggested some good > things abt ur postings and mail sigs etc.. -----8<---- so whas u gonna try next my dear friend ??? I have a suggestion for LUG. The homepage should say. Welcome to GNU/LUG EGOISTS Users Group of Mumbai! because thats what is going on in this list most of the times....everyone has such a big EGO...cant u ppl for once let things be and just FOCUS on the message rather than the sender of the message. There are a lot of constructive stuff to be done rather than this EGO trips that keep happening. What are you guys trying to prove to each other. This mailing list is like the GOVERNMENT OF INDIA....most of the times rather than FOCUSSING on the issue...the FOCUS is on who created the issue...how dare he create the issue...why didnt he do it this way..this is how its to be done.....O CMONN...gimme a break....come out of this if u really want to do something for GNU/LINUX....don't worry so much about showing off ur intelligence through comments on how ppl are doing things......i believe all u ppl must be great techies..and thats what u shud be doing....focussing on what u r supposed to do.... and if anyone else has any problems with me cut pasting stuff or my mails...i'd want to be unsubsribed from this list. Thanks for teaching me a few things on netiqutte...but i guess a lot of people here have a lot to learn.... What they need to learn is understood i hope.... > what kinda ppl are MBT hiring nowadays? -----8<--- Atleast not the stupid kind like you. And listen kishor...u better not get personal on this one.....Is this what the entire LUG is all about... MUD slinging matches.....welll .....i hope u never have a Linux-Bombay...with such people....because it'll be more of an EGO Flashing trip than anything else.....I thought the lug had people who were above average in intelligence..but what i see is bunch of kiddos..fighting with each other. I hope this changes someday....And as for u kishor....u sound like u r constipated with that id of urs.....why dont u try some Isabgol... :) > > regds, > aaaaarrrgghhh > -----8<---- Freedom - Hehhehehehheehee. > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > End of Linuxers Digest > ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] is India IT Club Newsletter useful for us?
by Gurpreet Singh 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 30 Nov 2002, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc >cud > >Word Doc??!! Why? Aren't there any _better_ alternatives? [snip] the person who compils this uses windows. i cant help that... gurpreet > >-- >The last thing one knows in constructing a work is what to put >first. > -- Blaise Pascal > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] Athlon Omlette Sandwich Recipe ???
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hello Luggers, I just couldn't resist sending this on the mailing list. The story of the man who fried an egg on a Athlon 1500+. I am not joking. It is complete with pictures and with Athlon Omlette Sandwich Recipe ;) here's the link http://www.handyscripts.co.uk/egg.asp ************** Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-Juhu **************

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] how bout a free os anthem??
by Sankha Subhra Som 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

>dont know if u've heard this, but its by metallica >its called "Nothing Else Matters" [snip] Yep its a mesmerising number, but dunno how pleased Metallica is going to be wen they hear bout your plan grande. Remember wat happened to Napster. Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

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meeting in KReSIT on 8th
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi all, We can have a LUG meet at KReSIT, IIT Bombay on the 8th of Dec if all are interested. We have a choice between a classroom that can seat 50 people and the audi that can seat 200. I have temporarily booked both. Gods of the list, please confirm the meet, so that I can also announce on the IITB newsgroups. Is Sunday 4pm fine? Can't expect too many people from IIT, since most have left for home for the winter vacation. Jaju and Chetan please note, I won't be present on 8th. We need to ensure ITA takes care of the tea arrangements. I'll also try to see if I can get more details about the new "Affordable Computing Lab" that Prof. Phatak is planning in the dept. Agenda for the meet? Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You will be a winner today. Pick a fight with a four-year-old.

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PPTP on Linux
by Girish Hanchate 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Dear Devendra, Go to http://www.poptop.org & download the 1.01 version of PPTP.tar.gz file. rgds girish Hi I have been trying to make my Linux kernel MPPE and PPTP aware. Tried downloading the i386.rpms (for pptp and mppe) from pptpclient.sourceforge.net and proceeded as per the James Cameron's howto (for Psyche - RH 8.0). http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-redhat-80.phtml But, after proceeding through the entire cycle of rebuilding kernel modules et al, I still get a message (from pptp-command) that kernel is not supporting pptp. a) pppd daemon does not start...same excuse. Kernel release version 2.4.18-14 b) On further investigation (modprobe -v pptp or mppe); it shows up an error in a file called ppp_generic.o saying 'uresolved symbol' at various lines of code. c) # kernel-modules/kmodinst.sh kernel-modules/new-2.4.18-14/ When i perform this action ...module dependencies command returns some errors. Has anyone had any success in the same? Pls help...as I need to connect to my Cable ISP's VPN box (thru ethernet) to access email. Regards Deven PS - __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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is India IT Club Newsletter useful for us?
by Gurpreet Singh 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

hi ppl i intended to start a discussion on whether posting on the newsletter at http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc cud be useful for us?? plz go thru it ppl and give ur views..... regards Gurpreet ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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how bout a free os anthem??
by Gurpreet Singh 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

hi fellas i was just thinking... how bout an anthem for the movement?? i think this one wud be gud. dont know if u've heard this, but its by metallica its called "Nothing Else Matters" and it goes... So close no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who we are and nothing else matters never opened myself this way [opening us to free os] life is ours, we live it our way [life is our n we have have ourchoice] all these words I don't just say [we just dont say, we do] and nothing else matters trust I seek and I find in you [we find trust in free os] every day for us something new [we have somethin new every day:)] open mind for a different view [ya ours is a diff view] and nothing else matters never cared for what they do [dont care for criticism] never cared for what they know ['coz we know more] but I know so close no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who we are and nothing else matters never cared for what they do never cared for what they know but I know never opened myself this way [free os was an eyeopener] life is ours, we live it our way all these words I don't just say trust I seek and I find in you every day for us something new open mind for a different view and nothing else matters never cared for what they say never cared for games they play [they call it business policies] never cared for what they do [$100 million?? ] never cared for what they know and I know so close no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who we are no nothing else matters ---------------------------------------- now how was that?? not written with free os in mind but still quite a match, it has the spirit. try n listen to it once, even the music has that feeling of freedom. may be we can play this at linux lunacy?? what say trevor?? comments pls... regards gurpreet ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] Jumping Ships?
by Amol Hatwar 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

A top European Commission official has left to join the Microsoft Corp, just weeks before he was due to give his opinion on the European antitrust lawsuit against the company. Get the details here: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/bizfocus/archives/2002/12/01/185518

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to install a distro from the hard-disk
by sameer shinde 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

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Redhat 8 CD's
by John Clegg 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

Hi I was wondering if you can tell me if there is anyone selling Redhat 8 installation CD's here in mumbai Thanks John Clegg Chief Technology Officier Baazee.com http://www.baazee.com <http://www.baazee.com/>

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Re: Commercial ILUG...
by Natarajan V 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

Hi, Sorry for the late reply, i was not available to read my mails and answer them over the week. Well, I think I sparked off an unnecessary argument over "Commercialisation". Am with Trover. Generally LUGs are supposed be there, so that we can SHARE knowldge. What I meant by Commercial interests in some LUGs is that, some of them are promoted and funded/aided by commercial organizations, with an optional internal MOTO. This is what I meant by "commercial LUG", and not charging for help mails.. Hey come on... even M$ gives FREE help over newsgroups...!!!!! (surprising, but it does give, SOMETIMES). Of course, if any one wants to go in person and help them, or have their own interests, in answering a question, they can do it in a commercial way..... Cheers Natarajan ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] is India IT Club Newsletter useful for us?
by Gurpreet Singh 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 Vinayak Hegde wrote : >Gurpreet Singh wrote: > >>hi ppl >>i intended to start a discussion on whether posting on the >>newsletter at >>http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc cud >>be useful for us?? plz go thru it ppl and give ur views..... > >I did go through the article and it may be a good vehicle to >propagate the Free S/W philosophy. >Let me know if you need someone to write a article. I will >happily volunteer to do so. [snip] thats gr8... >Because awareness is the key in this campaign, we should make use >of whatever resources are available. [snip] anymore ppl who wud like to spread some awareness thru?? gurpreet > >--> Vinayak Hegde > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Government of India endorses and sponsors Linux Bangalore/2002
by Vinayak Hegde 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

Hello Luggers, At last better sense prevails after BGs visit. Here's the link to the whole article. http://lwn.net/Articles/16808/ Also This makes good reading. has a RobinHood kinda feel to it. http://atulchitnis.net/writings/rising-1.php :-) ciao Vinayak Hegde

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TCP/IP stack tuning
by kishor bhagwat 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

hi folks, can someone give/point some tips for tuning the tcp/ip stack on a linux box for handling really large number of connections...? how would this tuning be different from tuning for fast routing? disclaimers: 1) i'm searching myself on the net and i hve a few ideas...just want to know if someone here has done something like this and what is their experience. 2) i'm not looking for commercial support regds, kishor __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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How to install a distro from the hard-disk
by ether＠indbazaar.com 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Hello! I have an iso image of installable linux on my hard-disk. No CD. Any idea how to use this image? As in, how to install linux from the hard-disk? Thanks a ton for helping. :) Regards, -shruti _____________________________________________________________________________ If you don't have an account at http://myspace.indbazaar.com , you're missing out on split-second e-mail, 25 MB net space and lots of other goodies...

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Need gurus to guide youngsters in GNU/Linux projects
by Frederick Noronha 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

This is Trevor Warren's baby... and I'm trying to help. The Project Resource Centre mailing list is trying to help students in finding suitable GNU/Linux projects. Could you spare some time in acting as a guru/mentor for these young minds? Someone said: "The grand essentials of happiness are: some thing to do, something to love and something to hope for..." There's a bit of all three in the above idea. Let's take it further. Please see http://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc Do sign up there. FN -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.2409490/2409783 BYTESFORALL www.bytesforall.org * GNU-LINUX http://linuxinindia.pitas.com fred at bytesforall dot org * Mobile 9822 122436 (Goa) * Saligao Goa India Writing with a difference ... on what makes *the* difference Pascal - A programming language named after a man who would turn over in his grave if he knew about it.

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mailing list policies
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Quoting from the welcome message that *every* new member on this list receives. And yes, these guidelines are really, really old and have been around since the LUG was started. Please adhere to them; I would like to request the admin to use the 15th point. This should settle all the recent crappy mails once and for all. Now I wonder how many people actually read guidelines. Peronal opinions ... bah! Sameer. ILUG-Bom Mailing List participation Guidelines ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2. When quoting another person, edit out whatever isn't directly applicable to your reply. Don't let your mailing software automatically quote the entire body of messages you are replying to when it's not necessary. Take the time to edit any quotations down to the minimum necessary to provide context for your reply. Nobody likes reading a long message in quotes for the third or fourth time, only to be followed by a one line response: "Yeah, me too." Messages larger than 10k will not be posted immediately. Such messages will need the list admins approval. 5. Limit line length to approximately 65-70 characters and avoid control characters. 11. Please provide URL's to articles wherever possible. Avoid cutting and pasting whole articles especially considering the fact that all may not be interested. In any case your posting maynot be more than 10k. Occassionally if you may have to send such a mail, post it, it will reach the members after the list admin approves it. 15. Any violation to the above will be given a warning. 5 such warnings and the subscriber will be suspended from the mailing list for 15 days. Compiled by - G.Sagar. (with a few additions by Nagarjuna G. and Sandesh Rao)

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[OT] Can Indians learn ??
by Tushar Mavani 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hi ppl, this guys still do linux ..... _______________________________________________ Burkina Faso LUG up and running The West African nation of Burkina Faso now has its first Linux User Group, despite being one of the poorest countries on Earth. The Association Burkinabe Utilisateurs des Logiciels Libres has 50 members, trained by local Linux gurus. Next time you are tempted to moan about the poor state of broadband in your area, consider that in the case of Burkina Faso, the entire country has to share one 4Mb pipe !!!! http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=292 _______________________________________________ Special Thanks to: daniel(a)linuxuser.co.uk india has better resources than these guys .... so can we finally realise our potential ?? bye, T __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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[OT] Can Indians learn ??
by Tushar Mavani 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hi ppl, this guys still do linux ..... _______________________________________________ Burkina Faso LUG up and running The West African nation of Burkina Faso now has its first Linux User Group, despite being one of the poorest countries on Earth. The Association Burkinabe Utilisateurs des Logiciels Libres has 50 members, trained by local Linux gurus. Next time you are tempted to moan about the poor state of broadband in your area, consider that in the case of Burkina Faso, the entire country has to share one 4Mb pipe !!!! http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=292 _______________________________________________ Special Thanks to: daniel(a)linuxuser.co.uk india has better resources than these guys .... so can we finally realise our potential ?? bye, T __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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x shifts to right
by Ninad Purohit 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hi i have configured X hubndreds of times but i haven't been able to find out why my X display shifts to the right i know this has something to do with the horizontal frequency settings of my monitor but what exactly? is there any way to save the adjustments made by xvidtune . i tried manually editing my XF86Config-4 but it didnot work i remember XF86Setup had an option to do so but redhat has deprecated it it still works in freebsd though can anybody help me out on this ===== ninad purohit have a nice day :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

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sys admin
by slash_axl_rose_upen 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

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India IT club newsletter.... can we benefit from it??
by Gurpreet Singh 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hello luggerz look at this http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc i came across this newsletter which comes from the Tokyo office of India Trade Promotion Organization(the organization which runs the pragati maidan in delhi, it also has an export promotion deptt). The compiler of this newsletter Mr. N.K. Sehgal is a close family friend of ours. I am not too sure about the audience of this newsletter but it must be going to the big export houses related to s/w exports in japan and india, and also to a few more people... now, i think i can convince mr sehgal to bail out some space for our GNU cause on his newsletter. but this comes at a later stage. ******************************************************************* ****i would like some of u experienced people to analyze the newsletter and try to determine if it can be a useful platform for us.******* **************************************************************** if u guys say that this shud be done, i'll **try** my part of convincing him. so go on people, the newsletter is up at http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc (now this is in M$ word format, dont flame me for that, i didnt make it :D) ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D ---------------------------------------------

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Commercial ILUG
by Amol Hatwar 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Hi, Natrajan's information regarding ILUG Chennai sent a lot of my cells racing. I agree that free support is a good thing. But then what about the people whom we support that work for commercial organizations? Lets take a hypothetical case: Mr. A works for ABC Corp. who has investments in Linux in terms of development, support and even customers. Now Mr. A is a fresher and doesn't know GNU/Linux much... a Perl based project comes up, and then he runs helter skelter for help. Mr. Cool is cool with GNU/Linux and yes he knows Perl! Mr. Cool helps Mr. A out with difficulties... and ABC Corp doles the project out... because Mr. A completed it on time. Mr. A agined... ABC Corp. gained... what did Mr. Cool gain? Now I am not cool with that. Maybe I won't go with what ILUG Chennai does... but yes maybe we can charge support requests from commerical organisations. (That will help me tolerate those irritating signatures). Charging will also mean one more thing... people will look carefully at the list archives before winging something in. Regards, -ah

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ASUS 3005 32 mb on RedHat 7.3
by Bentzy Sagiv 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

>>Hello, >>I just installed PCQ Redhat 7.1. on my new P4 1.5 on 10gb hdd with = >>win2000 insstalled on the 40gb. >>i am able 2 run both win200 and linux with dual booting=20 >>my prob is that in haste i forgot to configure the vga card, i have asus = >>v3005 32mb, this was not shown in the list. i learnt from a friend that = >>i could've used sis 300 (is it in the list shown by redhat??). =20 >>now i am not able 2 startx. >>my question is how do i configure X windows to take the correct drivers = >>for with re-installing linux all over again. >>my vga card is agp asus v3005 32mb ram >>monitor is lg studioworks 563N >>please help! =20 >>nilesh Hi Nilesh! I have exactly the same problem!!!!!!!Have you the solution?? I have RHL 7.3. My monitor is proview 772 Thank you at advance. Bentzy Sagiv Vidyatel Ltd. bentzy(a)vidyatel.com

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linux lunacy.....talks...debian??
by Gurpreet Singh 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hello this is regarding the talks on the "linux lunacy" trip to be held on the 22nd of dec. can a something be arranged in terms of debian?? a talk may be that wud make people get over the fear of those 7 big CDs , pick them up and start installing. Maybe something that says why debian is a better choice(i've just heard people saying this, no flames plz :D).. and if can also include a quick installation touches, it'd be great. any volunteers?? regards Gurpreet ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D ---------------------------------------------

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linux lunacy.....talks...debian??
by Gurpreet Singh 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hello this is regarding the talks on the "linux lunacy" trip to be held on the 22nd of dec. can a something be arranged in terms of debian?? a talk may be that wud make people get over the fear of those 7 big CDs , pick them up and start installing. Maybe something that says why debian is a better choice(i've just heard people saying this, no flames plz :D).. and if can also include a quick installation touches, it'd be great. any volunteers?? regards Gurpreet ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D ---------------------------------------------

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India IT club newsletter.... can we benefit from it??
by Gurpreet Singh 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

hello luggerz look at this http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc i came across this newsletter which comes from the Tokyo office of India Trade Promotion Organization(the organization which runs the pragati maidan in delhi, it also has an export promotion deptt). The compiler of this newsletter Mr. N.K. Sehgal is a close family friend of ours. I am not too sure about the audience of this newsletter but it must be going to the big export houses related to s/w exports in japan and india, and also to a few more people... now, i think i can convince mr sehgal to bail out some space for our GNU cause on his newsletter. but this comes at a later stage. ******************************************************************* ****i would like some of u experienced people to analyze the newsletter and try to determine if it can be a useful platform for us.******* **************************************************************** if u guys say that this shud be done, i'll **try** my part of convincing him. so go on people, the newsletter is up at http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc (now this is in M$ word format, dont flame me for that, i didnt make it :D) ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D ---------------------------------------------

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 23 ppls registered callin for more.....linux-l unacy
by Nikhil Kale 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

BTW ... is there anyway i can remove my name from the list i.e. the guys coming for the picnic? i cant make it on 8th. Regards, Nikhil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <scrap(a)saswatabanerjee.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:59:42 +0530 To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 23 ppls registered callin for more.....linux-lunacy > One of my collegues, who is not on this list, wants to come along. Is there > any restriction on that ? > > Regards > Saswata > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Warren" <trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Cc: <trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:21 PM > Subject: Fw: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 23 ppls registered callin for > more.....linux-lunacy > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:33:02 +0530 > > "Amol Hatwar" <rollacosta(a)phreaker.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Luggers.... > > > > > > > > http://mlasia.mine.nu/ilug/showwho.php > > > > > > > > 17pple and calling for more.... > > > > > > > Roll me in! > > [snip] > > > > Pls sign up dear. The url is as stated above. Just remove the > > showwho.php. > > > > Also...call all of those to-be lugger who wanna have fun and learn > > too..:) > > > > Bye for now. > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amol Hatwar > > > > > > -- > > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > > | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | > > |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| > > \___________________________________/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > -- > > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > > | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | > > |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| > > \___________________________________/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. NikhilKale(a)linuxmail.org NikhilKale(a)indiatimes.com -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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Group urges limits on open source
by Kiran Nadgir 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

The U.S. Defense Department should think twice before embracing open-source software, a trade association is advising. The Initiative for Software Choice, which counts Microsoft, Cisco Systems and Intel among its backers, said in comments filed Tuesday that the department should "avoid crafting needless and potentially detrimental IT policy to promote the use" of open-source software. "Open source" means every software developer can view the source code for software, modify it, and use it for free. The initiative, which launched in May and is chaired by a group called CompTIA, an organization that has close ties to Microsoft, is worried about a recent report that concluded the Defense Department relies on open-source software and recommended its further adoption. Written by defense contractor MITRE, the report said that free and open-source software "plays a more critical role in the (Defense Department) than has been generally recognized" and endorsed it as a viable alternative to proprietary Microsoft products. This week, the Initiative for Software Choice counterattacked, telling the Defense Information Systems Agency that the Pentagon should not "openly promote the use" of open-source software, arguing that proprietary products are not inherently less secure. The group also assailed the General Public License (GPL), which generally permits programmers to incorporate code released under the GPL as long as they make their own source code available. "While the law on this matter remains untested, it makes sense for companies to be highly risk-averse in this area, striking a more defensive posture when confronted with software development that may implicate GPL code or similar coding environments," the initiative said. "Commercial and hybrid software developers generally do not want to risk losing their investment." Proprietary software companies such as Microsoft have labeled open-source software as a serious threat and have begun to oppose its use by governments. At the same time, however, nations such as France and Germany have begun to encourage open-source software to limit their dependence on proprietary vendors and to stimulate local software development. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kiran Nadgir Mahindra British Telecom. Tel : 56922000 extn - 8070. Mobile - 9820444403. Email - kirann(a)mahindrabt.com WebSite: www.mahindrabt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Quote of the week ~~ " If I have seen farther than other men, it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants." Sir Isaac Newton ~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com

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your security on the Internet
by kishor bhagwat 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Hello folks, chk out this link if you use a Winbox http://drorshalev.brinkster.net/dev/ Those without a winbox shld try this link on their friends' machines! Try some of the stuff under Free Style, it gives a good demo of how unsafe you are in the wild world of the Internet! regds, aaaaarrrgghhh __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Software license tied to human rights
by Kiran Nadgir 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Link to the article - http://news.com.com/2100-1023-975638.html?tag=lh Move over, free software. Step aside, today's open-source licenses. Software distributed under an "enhanced source" license released this week will be legally prohibited from censoring or spying on users. Crafted by Hacktivismo, a hacking group organized by the Cult of the Dead Cow, the Hacktivismo enhanced-source software license agreement says that anyone using code released under it must respect privacy, free expression, due process and other human rights. HESSLA comes as concern is growing over governments using technology such as blocking software to restrict what their citizens can do or say online. In September, House Republicans released a report titled "Tear Down This Firewall," and this week, Amnesty International published a report highlighting China's crackdown on Internet use. "The Hacktivismo enhanced-source software license agreement marks the first time technology transfer has been linked to protecting human rights," said Oxblood Ruffin, founder of Hacktivismo. "Our clients and end-users aren't building the firewalls to keep democracy out. They're locked inside trying to break free." In July, Ruffin published a manifesto that referenced the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights and said Internet censorship is "a serious form of organized and systematic violence against citizens, is intended to generate confusion and xenophobia and is a reprehensible violation of trust." Hacktivismo's license says that any government that violates human rights is prohibited from using software released under it. The "enhanced source" license intentionally tracks much of the language of the well-known General Public License and borrows most of the GPL's concepts, such as the one that says anyone incorporating code released under the license in their program must also make the source code of their program available. In fact, Hacktivismo recommends that programmers release their code under both licenses. One problem Hacktivismo might encounter is that the current license is so broad it discourages developers from using it. For instance, it bans governments, individuals and corporations from any "monitoring of individuals," which might apply to popular network monitoring utilities, and bans "filtering" of any expression, which could cover routine utilities such as spam-filtering programs. Another section of the license requires that the creator of any program that uses cryptography for authentication or confidentiality must ensure that the algorithms meet minimum security thresholds. And if any disputes arise involving another nation, the license says, foreign governments relinquish their right of sovereign immunity and agree to be sued in federal court in the United States. The license enables both Hacktivismo and its end-users to go to court if someone tries to use the software in a malicious manner, or to introduce harmful changes into the software. It also contains more robust language than has previously been used to maximize enforcement against governments around the world. The HESSLA explicitly prohibits anybody from introducing "spyware, surveillance technology, or other undesirable code into modified versions of HESSLA-licensed programs." Additionally, the license prohibits any use of the software by any government that has any policy or practice of violating human rights. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kiran Nadgir Mahindra British Telecom. Tel : 56922000 extn - 8070. Mobile - 9820444403. Email - kirann(a)mahindrabt.com WebSite: www.mahindrabt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Quote of the week ~~ " If I have seen farther than other men, it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants." Sir Isaac Newton ~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] top posting (was: Redhat 8 CD's)
by Philip S Tellis 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Sameer's signature said: > FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #5 > A: The Halls of Montezuma and the Shores of Tripoli. > Q: Name two families whose kids won't join the Marines. talk about posting answers before questions!!

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LINK: Wanted contacts in embedded software
by Frederick Noronha 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

A friend from Japan, Sandor Markon <markon(a)rd.fujitec.co.jp> is a manager of a Japanese manufacturer and is involved with introducing GNU/Linux to the firm. The firm is considering to start outsourcing software projects in India, and is doing an initial survey here. He will be attending LinuxBangalore2002 from Dec 3-5 in Bangalore. "Seeing how active you are on the Indian Linux scene, I wonder if you might want to help me with the initial inquiries, perhaps by introducing me to some people or companies that you know," he writes. If you are working in the field and are interested, please get in touch. He is interested in getting in touch with embedded systems development capacities, software engineering tools, development environment customization etc., "but of course also in more general software capabilities, too". Contact details as below: Sandor Markon FUJITEC Co.Ltd. World HQ, 28-10, Shoh 1-chome, Ibaraki, Osaka, JAPAN Tel: 0726-22-8148 Fax: 0726-22-8274 email: markon(a)rd.fujitec.co.jp -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.2409490/2409783 BYTESFORALL www.bytesforall.org * GNU-LINUX http://linuxinindia.pitas.com fred at bytesforall dot org * Mobile 9822 122436 (Goa) * Saligao Goa India Writing with a difference ... on what makes *the* difference "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history... with the possible exception of handguns and tequila." - Anon.

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PPTP on Linux
by Devendra Parulekar 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Hi I have been trying to make my Linux kernel MPPE and PPTP aware. Tried downloading the i386.rpms (for pptp and mppe) from pptpclient.sourceforge.net and proceeded as per the James Cameron's howto (for Psyche - RH 8.0). http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-redhat-80.phtml But, after proceeding through the entire cycle of rebuilding kernel modules et al, I still get a message (from pptp-command) that kernel is not supporting pptp. a) pppd daemon does not start...same excuse. Kernel release version 2.4.18-14 b) On further investigation (modprobe -v pptp or mppe); it shows up an error in a file called ppp_generic.o saying 'uresolved symbol' at various lines of code. c) # kernel-modules/kmodinst.sh kernel-modules/new-2.4.18-14/ When i perform this action ...module dependencies command returns some errors. Has anyone had any success in the same? Pls help...as I need to connect to my Cable ISP's VPN box (thru ethernet) to access email. Regards Deven PS - A lot of RTFM has already happened, so lemme pre-empt that reply. ;-) ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. Ernst & Young is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt.

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Mail signatures and Egos :)
by Kiran Nadgir 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

well well...somebody's ego trip just doesnt end. Philip for your sake i'll make sure the signal to noise ratio is in control. And its ok if you don't read the content of my mail its never intended for you.Don't trouble yourself so much over diclaimer's and the like, just let them be. Sorry if any more egos were hurt because of my mails. :) rgds, kiran ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kiran Nadgir Mahindra British Telecom. Tel : 56922000 extn - 8070. Mobile - 9820444403. Email - kirann(a)mahindrabt.com WebSite: www.mahindrabt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Quote of the week ~~ " I'd rather regret things I've done than regret things I never got to do." Leti G. --- Texas This goes for anything in your life. I like to live by this quote. To me, it means that I need to do things I want to do, when I want to do them. I'm not going to get to live my life over again! Sure, sometimes there'll be consequences, but I'd rather say I got to do them. When I grow old and am telling my grand children and great-grand children about my life, I don't want to be wishing I'd done more! ~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com

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plz help me
by vamsi krishna 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

hi i am vamsi ,project associate from iiit allahabad,india. i have a Dlink DMI-128ESU ISDN (External) TA, which i want to configure it on linux.can u tell me the way out to do this.i have to enable mlppp and not ppp for which the init string is AT%A2=6 ,i have use this AT command for configuring the modem.please kindly tell me a solution. vamsi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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"Linux 7.1"
by Satya 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

I'm a member of another LUG. On the LUG mailing list, someone made the mistake of referring to "Linux 7.1". Here is Eric Ortega's reply: On Nov 28, 2002 at 13:18, Eric Ortega wrote: >You actually, unless you have a time machine, do not have a copy of Linux >7.1. You have a copy of Redhat 7.1, which is a completely different ball >of wax than just the Linux kernel. Note that Debian is around version 2 or >something, Mandrake is at 9 or thereabouts, and the kernel hackers are >banging around on Linux 2.5. > >Confusing the kernel with the rest of the distribution is an easy mistake >to make in the beginning but it's like dragging your fingernails down >a chalkboard to people who know a little bit more. It's in your best >interest to clarify the difference in your own mind if you hope to present >yourself as anything more than a wholly helpless (and therefore not worth >the effort) newbie. Once you square that small thing away will you have >already opened up many more avenues for help. :) He also requests that the last sentence be changed to: Once you square that small thing away you will have already opened up many more avenues for help. :) But I can't do that. :-P -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> I need a job! Perl, Apache, Linux, C. http://www-scf.usc.edu/~phanse/resume.pdf Cap'n! Cap'n! the UART's will'nae take the speed!

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