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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Communication Skills and Software Development
by Prashant Verma 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

At 08:02 AM 7/12/2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >What is funny is that we Indians are not the only ones with English as >a non-native language. But we seem to be the only ones to cite that as >*the* reason for any failure. The issue is not language, it is >attitude. One thing that we should remember is that not everyone has had the advantages (of education in certain types of colleges or schools), that we have had. So, in order to really appreciate the problem, we need to look beyond the familiar. I occasionally come in touch with people from rural background who are good programmers, but not so good at communication. And they have a performance problem because of that. About the rest of your email.. you seem to agree with me, but have taken several hundred words to do so :P Anyway, I feel that even in a Mentor-Mentee setup there are certain ingredients to success. The Mentor should have access to online tutorials, articles etc. which are geared to explaining the need for good communication and the steps for improving at that. Just creating a Mentor-Mentee setup will not solve the problem. I am hunting for such tutorials, or will write one if needed.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Communication Skills and Software Development
by Prashant Verma 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

At 10:46 AM 7/11/2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Mani A<a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I do not think the strategy is sufficiently perfect. Such people > > should be made to write complete developer-level documentation under a > > mentor preferably as well (in the FOSS project). Language skills > > cannot be handled properly in a FOSS development environment without > > special mentoring. > > >... >And as for language skills -- if you're talking about the mere ability >to speak in English or write perfect grammar then no, FOSS is not the >place to learn that. In fact I haven't seen to many grammar pedants in >the FOSS programming scenario -- you have to be if you're contributing >to documentation though :) ... Siddhesh, please see the original post. The objective of improving communication skills is so that one can understand and convey specs etc. If a person is skilled enough that he can convey ideas in imperfect english mixed with mumbaiya lingo ('kya baap, khali pili pointer ko null pe set karta hai. Runtime pe lafda ho jayenga.'), that is fine, as long as the person on the receiving end understands it. If you're working in a team, the team members must understand this too :P Of course, once we are past that stage, we'll understand that the best way to communicate is the most concise and precise way, so that most of the people reading it get the message. And that's where grammar comes in. The big point is that lack of communication skills is one of the big obstacles because of which deserving people do not achieve their potential. People must have enough communication skills to be effective in their work. Mentoring, as Mani points out could be an effective way of improving communication skills, but responsibility also lies with the mentee. I'm reminded of this old joke: Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Just one, but the bulb has to want to change.

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[OT]Communication Skills and Software Development
by Prashant Verma 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

Why are communication skills important in Software Development? Comprehension and verbal skills are required to read and understand, as well as convey: a. Requirements b. Specifications c. Books, articles and manuals d. Bug reports e. Project Plans f. Achievements g. Difficulties and obstacles coming in way of goals h. and more... More importantly, good communication skills help a developer prioritize tasks better. A good communicator can better grasp the urgency/importance of a particular situation or feature. And of course, innumerable other reasons. Now, one thing I have noticed is that there are many software developers, those with excellent academic records, who could be brilliant programmers or testers, if only their communication skills were better. Often such 'latent' good programmers find their way into organizations of all shapes and sizes. Sadly, more often than not, such professionals are unable to achieve their potential because of their Achilles' Heel: Communication. Often we hear reports of speeches by industry leaders or top managers who have said that graduates from <insert country or state or university> are unemployable. My belief is that the students have the fundamental material built in, but are only hampered by lack of good communication skills. Responsible organizations will want such people to achieve their potential. What are the options open to such organizations? Classroom Training? Online Training? I will appreciate if other people who have thought about this issue could contribute their opinion. If anyone has links to online articles which address this issue or online training programs, that would be very helpful.

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F 11 launch party
by dilip khanolkar 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

We are trying to arrange a fedora 11 launch party. Need some topics & speakers & a place to hold it can anyone help out in this. Regards, Dilip Khanolkar, +919769107738

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[Announce] Talks on FOSS - Friday, July 10th, 2009 @ 2.30 pm
by Prabhu Ramachandran 10 Jul '09

10 Jul '09

Hello, This is to announce the following talks that will be webcast from CDEEP at IIT Bombay, as part of the National mission on education through ICT. More information is available at: http://www.cdeep.iitb.ac.in/events.html. At the time of the event, a live webcast will be available at http://www.cdeep.iitb.ac.in/webcast/. The participants at all EDUSAT remote centres will have two way audio/video connectivity as well. You are welcome to attend in person or view this online. Regards, Prabhu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Friday, July 10th, 2009 Time: 2.30 pm Venue: 3rd floor seminar hall, Kanwal Rekhi Building Duration: Each talk will last for about 40 minutes Talk 1: 10 things a FOSS developer should know Abstract: FOSS development is easy. A simple set of rules and protocols would get anyone started on FOSS development. In this talk, the 10 essential things are discussed in a form that is easy to remember and, easy to tell others. Mostly interactive and example-driven, the talk builds on the fundamental principles of Software Development and provides relevance within the FOSS model of doing things. Speaker: Ramakrishna Reddy is a Sr Software Engineer at Red Hat. A self-confessed Python fan, Ramakrishna is currently involved in authoring a book teaching non-programmers the fundamentals of computing. He is a regular on various Python forums along side NLP related forums. Ramakrishna maintains various eclectic packages in Fedora and, is also active in the Debian community. Talk 2: How to use infrastructure for FOSS Projects Abstract: Infrastructure is an important part of a FOSS project's lifecycle. In this talk, Prasad talks about how to set up a development environment for a developer and, how best to set up a development/project infrastructure. Touching upon the essential infrastructure aspects, Prasad takes an example of his own project to demonstrate how important infrastructure is for projects. Speaker: Prasad J Pandit is a Software Engineer at Red Hat. A developer who professes a love for Perl and C, Prasad maintains packages in Fedora. He also provides guidance to new participants in FOSS development showing them how to get their feet wet. Talk 3: Communication in a FOSS Project Abstact: Any project is based on communication. Clear, precise and accurate information at the right time helps to build communities around projects. Rahul delves into his experience as a Fedora Community Wrangler to talk about the ways and means to maintain a dialogue with an evolving community as well as how best to build up communication skills. Speaker: Rahul Sundaram has been working within the Fedora community for close to 5 years now. He works as a Software Engineer at Red Hat and, provides inputs and guidance in various aspects of The Fedora Project ensuring that concept of collaboration is well established. He also writes in various publications and online journals. His profile is available at<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS?
by Pravin Dhayfule 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

========================================================= Re: Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS? (Atanu Datta) > Re: Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS? > (Sukhdev Jadhav) > Re: Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS? (jtd) > Re: Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS? (Raj Mathur) > Re: Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS? > (narendra sisodiya) =========================================================== Hi Folks, Thanks for the reply and the explanations. They all were well explainative and logical :) But my friends, I do agree about what CentOS does, distribute by removing trademarks etc etc. I agree. But folks, these all apply to them who want to entirely distribute a new Flavor by reusing Red Hat code. My question lies related to End Users. Just for the example what my friend did. Obtained the Red Had Linux CD from institute as a COPY of Original CD, just like how Windows, Linux Mint, Ubuntu and other OS CDs are replicated and distributed. Now on Ubuntu's cover for example, they permit Users the exclusive freedom to replicate and distribute the CDs, although for Windows its Restricted, and I guess this would be even restricted by Red Hat since every CD may be charged per System. So my questions is will this END USER style of distribution and sharing lead to Piracy? Trademark Removal etc are all Programmer Level steps. I am talking from a perspective of Sharing the OS with a neighbor to install on his/her system as it is received..... Will it be piracy? Bye Regards

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Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS?
by Pravin Dhayfule 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

Hi Folks, One of my friend was arguing me that RED HAT is superior to any of the FREELY available Linux Distro as it provides Support (although in form of Subscriptions). However I told him that he can get free community support for many other free distros and more over they are Open Source. Now for this he said that Red Hat too is open Source, and he has got one installed in his home through a CD provided by his institute where he is studying REHL. I asked him, whether he needed to enter Serial Key like Windows, he replied no, but he wont be able to use their support. So I told him that he is using a PIRATED version of LINUX. HE said yes. I went ahead to cross check Red Hat License Agreement, and saw it to be similar to Microsoft's EULA that states, you cannot install it on more computers than the licensed purchased for etc. Secondly if the Subscription expires, the OS will no longer be Legal until its renewed (similar to Norton Anti Virus) So my question is... Can Red Hat enterprise products be really considered as Open Source (as their website claims) http://investors.redhat.com/index.cfm *Red Hat is the world's leading open source provider. Bringing the choice, collaboration, cost savings and value of open source to enterprises worldwide. Solutions include our Red Hat Enterprise Linux operating platforms, JBoss Enterprise Middleware and other Red Hat enterprise technologies. * I am a bit confused on this argument... When we refer to Open Source philosophy, it says "FREEDOM", but REHL EULA looks similar to Microsoft EULA, then is also Red Hat play a role in giving rise to "PIRATED LINUX" race? Bye Regards

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Bluetooth dongle compatible with Linux
by Easwar Hariharan 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

Hi all, I'm in the market for a USB bluetooth dongle and plan to go to Lamington Road in a few days.I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit,so what brand or shop do you guys recommend based on experience?I know such issues have been discussed time and again on this list,but the link for searching the mailing list archives on the wiki is currently not functioning,so please guide me as to where and on what I can get the best deal.I plan to use it only occasionally. Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065

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[OT/commercial/x-post] Looking for professional help to integrate LDAP auth (Mac OSX, Linux and Windows XP)
by Arun Khan 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

Please contact me offlist/directly if you have implemented: LDAP authentication, using Mac OSX 10.5 server with it's bundled Open Directory as the backend to authenticate users on Linux, OSX (10.4 and 10.5) desktops, and Windows XP SP3 desktops. A client has a setup of heterogenous desktop setup and wants to implement Directory Services for the organization. The composition is 80% Linux desktop + 2 Linux File servers (NFS+Samba), 7 OSX desktops and 5 Windows XP desktops). The user's Unix (Linux/OSX) profile is portable to the respective platform via LDAP and Windows profile is portable through Samba. Samba+LDAP back end needs to be configured on 2 Linux file servers as well on the OSX server (for user's home dir). -- Arun Khan PS - I have already tried openLDAP (on Linux), works with Linux desktops, OSX clients see the LDAP server but do not authenticate from the graphical login window.

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Google Chrome Operating ( Based on Linux)
by Siji Sunny 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hello all, Google is going to release new operating system google chrome,which is based on linux kernel. http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/ -- Siji Sunny

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Latest ubuntu
by jtd 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

does any one have the latest ubuntu cd / dvd. Jaunty Jackalope. Or is there something newer. I am unable to get farsight2 running on lenny. -- Rgds JTD

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Opening fyjc.org.in in Firefox - Successfully
by Pravin Dhayfule 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

Hi folks, While going through that Red Hat License discussion, I had completely forgotten that there was a thread regarding FYJC being restricted to IE Users (how mean of them!) Here's the solution to open it in Firefox. Its called User Agent Switch (I didnt get chance to real complete thread, so may be some one would have already suggested this solution, if not then please read further :) In Firefox click Toold > Add ons Search for "User Agent Switch" Install the addon Restart FireFox Click Tools > Default User Agent > Internet Explorer > Select version Do not restart FireFox Type the url http://www.fyjc.org.in in Address field Bingo, this works :) Bye Regards

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Bugzilla issue tracking of foss india
by narendra sisodiya 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

Just as an idea, How about having a *central* system of issue tracking for the issues related to foss India. for example, the last post about http://fyjc.org.in/ is a bug or issue, and now got sloved !! having proprietary tools in syllabus is also a bug and list goes on. we can have a broad level issue to very small issue on the tracking system. -- ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya ( नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया ) │ R&D Engineer │ Web : http://narendra.techfandu.org │ Twitter : http://tinyurl.com/dz7e4a └─────────────────────────┘

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Can Red Hat Enterprise products fall under FOSS?
by Pravin Dhayfule 06 Jul '09

06 Jul '09

Based on these explainations: ========================================================================================================================== Now that we've cleared that up, here is a simplified (IMHO) explanation of what everybody already said: RHEL == Linux Kernel + GPL/BSD/MIT ...etc licensed Software + Red Hat trademarks (artwork etc) - How must does the RHEL distro cost ? * 0/- - How does Red Hat make money, if the cost of the RHEL distro is 0 ? * Subscriptions, trainings, consultancy ...and maybe more. - How is the RHEL distro. distrubuted ? * The sources are available for free on redhat.com and Red Hat provides CDs/DVDs of the distro. to it's customers (people who buy subscriptions or undertake trainings ...etc) ================================================================================================================= Can somebody explain the following clauses in Red Hat License Agreement? http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel_us_3.html 5 Reporting and Inspection 5.1 Reporting. Client will promptly notify Red Hat if the number of Installed Systems exceeds the number of Installed Systems for which Client has paid the applicable fee. In its notice, Client will include both the number of additional Installed Systems and the date(s) on which such Installed Systems were put into use. Red Hat will invoice Client for the applicable Services for such Installed Systems on a pro-rata basis and Client will pay for such Services in accordance with this Agreement. 5.2 Inspection. During the term of this Agreement and for one (1) year thereafter, Red Hat or its designated agent may inspect and review Client's facilities and records in order to verify Client's compliance with this Agreement. Any such inspection and review will take place only during Client's normal business hours and upon no less than ten (10) days prior written notice from Red Hat. Red Hat will give Client written notice of any non-compliance, including the number of underreported Installed Systems, and Client will have fifteen (15) days from the date of such notice to make payment to Red Hat for the applicable Services provided to the underreported Installed Systems. If Client had underreported the number of Installed Systems by more than five percent (5%), Client will also pay Red Hat for the cost of such inspection.

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FWD : [commercial] PHP developers job opening
by Prashant Shah 04 Jul '09

04 Jul '09

There is opening for PHP Developers with minimum 1 year experience. The company is located at Thane. http://www.advan-t-edge.com/ Email your resume to sunil (at) advan-t-edge.net

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zte wireless data terminal installation and configuration in ubuntu
by Kussh Singh 04 Jul '09

04 Jul '09

BSNL punjab circle has recently introduced a scheme where they are giving broadband speed of around 2.4 Mbps at unlimited download for just Rs 550 per month thru a wireless CDMA data card made by ZTE china. The wireless card can be purchased for Rs 4200 and the data connectivity is limited to just the punjab telecom circle. This scheme has not been publicised and has been in operation for the last 3-4 months. I came to know about it by chance thru word of mouth and the demand is very high but supply very less. The problem is that i haven't been able to install it using wine etc in ubuntu 9.04 with the installation CD Can anybody help if they have installed/configured the same in ubuntu 9.04 etc? Kussh

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Fwd: FYJC admission only through IE (Democracy on question mark?)]
by Prashant Verma 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

At 11:54 PM 6/27/2009, àª¦àª¿àª¨à«àª¶ àª¶àª¾àª¹/à¤¦à¤¿à¤¨à¥à¤¶ wrote: >KK, >... >That way you are diluting the meaning of word terrorist - who KILLS >INNOCENT PEOPLE without any reason or remorse. >... >Let us be responsible in choosing our words. (remember, you objecting >to people calling crackers as hackers?) Nice try Dinesh. But whether you will get through at all to KK is doubtful. In my last interaction with him, he strongly reminded me of Humpty Dumpty (a character in "Through the Looking Glass"). Excerpted from here: http://www.sabian.org/Alice/lgchap06.htm : <start excerpt> `But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected. `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' <end excerpt>

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Linux + LDAP + Terminal Server
by Hakuna Matata 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Hi Guys, i want create multiple profile on a single linux machine(server class) so that multiple users can access the it (GUI ) from their client machines. Server OS is CentOS 5.3 For centralize authentication i am using Fedora directory Services I also have FreeNX server installed on the Linux Server and FreeNX client on the windows machines. (for terminal server like functionality) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX while goggling i got the the below article for creating multiple profile in linux http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/114319 Now the situation is that my FreeNX client is not able to authenticate via my Ldap/FDS Server. Could someone suggest some better idea for achieving this. Best Regards H

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Any meeting planned in Mumbai?
by Ashwin U. Kini 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Hello Linuxers, I just wanted to check if this group has any meeting / event / workshop planned in near future? Why not get together all Mumbaikars and plan an offline meeting? Regards, Ashwin

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Personal invitation from Durvesh Chury
by Durvesh Chury 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Hi, On 6/17/2009 12:15:17 AM, you were invited to join Durvesh Chury's UNYK address book so he/she would always have access to your contact info and you to his/hers. To accept his/her request, Click here. http://www.unyk.com/ml/65/5/?i=64276cade53046a8abd374ae2974c49a UNYK is a smart and simple way to manage your contacts so you never lose anyones contact information again. No more worrying about your contacts' info. From now on, let them do it for you. By changing their information in UNYK.com, you address book will be automatically updated. By changing your information in UNYK.com, their address book will be automatically updated. Its so simple and its free... Already 10 million users. Click here if you no longer wish to receive invitations from Durvesh Chury to try UNYK! http://www.unyk.com/ml/245/74/unsubscribe.asp?mid=9E95AAA9827D8A9D&email=li… Click here if you no longer wish to receive invitations to try UNYK! http://www.unyk.com/ml/65/6/unsubscribe.asp?i=64276cade53046a8abd374ae2974c… UNYK, the first smart address book that updates itself!

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FYJC admission only through IE (Democracy on question mark?)]
by jitendra 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Last year, 2008, the fyjc admission was made online using FOSS. The software is available for any one for asking. I was the architect on behalf of the government. I was instrumental in turning the decision of autorites from not going in for online to going in for online this year. That is when my contribution ended. Last year we used the latest MySQL (5.0) when our engineers had not enough experience( was that a sensible decision ? I feel yes as it was essentially a pilot) . It took two days to locate MySQL expert who was familiar with settings ( Courtesy Dainik Bhaskar) and the dying server revived in 10 minutes. While comparing last year with this, one may note the following: (not as excuses for failures) We had an entrepreneur to come forward taking no money from the government, no assurance of students using the system . It was optional. The physical form filling was alternative. The charges for service was Rs 5 , with exemption for first two applications. Instead , this year the centralised admission makes online compulsory for about 2 lakh students (after discounting the minority seats of about 1.5 lakhs.) Each student has to pay Rs 125/- The undersigned had offered the services for the govt as honorary. This time I was called in initial meetings. But later I was dropped. I may get a call again, I am told. What is at stake is faith of people in technology in mass usage. Also whether FOSS can serve better? jitendra

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first Indian python conference
by Kenneth Gonsalves 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Hi, it's going to happen: http://in.pycon.org/2009/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Multipurpose identity card: will the platform be open source?
by Nikhil Marathe 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Hi all, Nandan Nilekani is to start the process of issuing every Indian citizen an identity card. But are the platform/readers and so on based on open source standards, such that you or I can verify that it doesn't have flaws or hidden backdoors which can be misused? I couldn't find anything on Google. Anyone has any ideas? Thanks, Nikhil

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how to play vcds or svcd in ubuntu?
by Kussh Singh 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Am going around in circles trying to get to play vcds in ubuntu 9.04. Have installed vlc , mplayer medibuntu etc but they don't seem to help. Also have installed the w32codecs, mjpegtools, etc but the story is the same. Don't remember how this was done earlier for earlier versions. Can anybody help please? Kussh

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FOSS snippets from /. : munifossent activities and bootless updates
by Vickram Crishna 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

1. MuniFOSS: could our BMC learn to do more with less? "The Munich decision to move its 14,000 desktops to Free Open Source Software created a big splash back in 2003 as news circulated of the third-largest German city's defection from Microsoft. When it was announced in 2003, the story garnered coverage even in the US, such as an extensive article in USA Today on-line. Currently, about 60% of desktops are using OpenOffice, with the remaining 40% to be completed by the end of 2009. Firefox and Thunderbird are being used in all of the city's desktop machines. Ten percent of desktops are running the LiMux Debian-based distro, and 80% will be running LiMux by 2012 at the latest. Autonomy was generally considered more important than cost savings, although the LiMux initiative is increasing competition in the IT industry in Munich already. The program has succeeded because the city administration has been careful to reach out to all stakeholders, from managers down to simple end users." http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/_X1l9CcI0IM/The-State-of-Mu… Note that the move has taken six years to date: retraining and rejigging processes and applications is not done overnight. In fact, part of the true total cost of proprietary is the expensive conversion effort. 2. Bootless updating: a technology first, with Ubuntu Jaunty "Ksplice has started offering Ksplice Uptrack for Ubuntu Jaunty, a free service that delivers rebootless versions of all the latest Ubuntu kernel security updates. It's currently available for both the 32 and 64-bit generic kernel, and they plan to add support for the virtual and server kernels by the end of the month, according to their FAQ. This makes Ubuntu the first OS that doesn't need to be rebooted for security updates." http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/BcMfez1tpkc/Ksplice-Offers-… Vickram http://communicall.wordpress.com http://vvcrishna.wordpress.com

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Fwd: [fp] Fonty Python 0.4 - Beta test help please
by Kartik Mistry 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Anyone having experience with Python (code level) can review the code and others can test functionality :) Thanks.. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Donn <donn.ingle(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM Subject: [fp] Fonty Python 0.4 - Beta test help please To: fontypython(a)googlegroups.com Hello, Apologies for the spam on this list. I don't know what to do about it. I am aiming for a 0.4 release soon and need a spot of help. If you are in the mood, could you take the latest trunk for a run and let me know what breaks! Get it fresh by: svn co svn://svn.sv.gnu.org/fontypython/trunk Or from: http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/fontypython/ (look for version 0.4 -- which might not be there for a few hours yet.) I need to know: 1. i18n -- still working? Many translations will be broken cos I changed stuff. 2. Functionality. I am suffering "code bleh" -- I can't tell if the app does what it's supposed-to or not. Just too close to the trees to see the etc. Have to check a)The command-line b)The Gui c)The help. 3. Bugs. If you use Savannah to report them, please email me a warning too. Once I get your feedback and fix any bugs, our friendly packager will be unleashed and FP-0.4 will hit the Universe! :D Many thanks, Donn. -- home: http://otherwise.relics.co.za/ 2D vector animation : https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/things/ Font manager : https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/fontypython/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "fontypython" group. To post to this group, send email to fontypython(a)googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to fontypython+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/fontypython?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Debian GNU/Linux Developer Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com

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[Fwd: FYJC admission only through IE (Democracy on question mark?)]
by Krishnakant 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Look at this real situation. What should we do with such terrorists sitting in the educational sector. On one hand we are facing terrorism from companies like Microsoft which will play all these dirty games and to help them the other side is our government where such currupted pimps are sitting to spoil all the educational system by denying even the basic freedom of choosing a software as small as a web browser. happy hacking. Krishnakant.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Printing to a Print Server
by Neelesh Gurjar 27 Jun '09

27 Jun '09

>Cyril Chacko <cyril.chacko(a)gmail.com> wrote: >I have added a printer for ipp print using the CUPS web interface with the >device URI as http://<IP>:631/ipp/PID<PortNumber> as int the windows printer >configuration it looks like <IP>;PID<PortNumber>. The Error I get is Remote >Device not Available. >Current Device URI: http://<IP>:631/<PortNumber> >I have tried many permutations and combinations and now Cups keeps on trying >and remains at Processing and does nothing further. Please see this: http://neelesh-gurjar.livejournal.com and search for Sharing Printer for Windows from Linux with Samba<http://neelesh-gurjar.livejournal.com/8063.html> If you need any help send me email off the list. -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Visual Source Safe from Ubuntu
by Pravin Dhayfule 27 Jun '09

27 Jun '09

Hi, I need to access Visual Source Safe from Ubuntu. Are there any VSS client application for ubuntu (apart from executing that vss exe through wine)? I need to do this because I am trying to experiment Linux implementation in our Office and I am asked if there's an option to checkout and check in files in VSS through Ubuntu. Bye Regards

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Printing to a Print Server
by Cyril Chacko 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

Dear All, I need to print to a Print Server, The print server is simply a Box with 3 ports to connect the printers (2 USB + 1 Serial). In Windows XP, the procedure to setup the printer is to install a driver for the print server called EZ Print by SMC. Create a Connection as if it is local and give the IP:Port Number to the configuration. Install the driver for the Printer and you are set. I have added a printer for ipp print using the CUPS web interface with the device URI as http://<IP>:631/ipp/PID<PortNumber> as int the windows printer configuration it looks like <IP>;PID<PortNumber>. The Error I get is Remote Device not Available. Current Device URI: http://<IP>:631/<PortNumber> I have tried many permutations and combinations and now Cups keeps on trying and remains at Processing and does nothing further. The following ports are open on the Print server. Telnet HTTP 80 Printer 515 IPP 631 Connecting to the Telnet/HTTP Port gives me the Admin menu for the Print Server. Any pointers will be welcome. Regards, Cyril Chacko -- Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Make sure they are on you.

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Alternative for teamviewer
by Siji Sunny 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

Hello friends, Am looking for a alternative software for teamviewer( http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx),which do not require a static ip and do not use a public service for accessing the desktop remotely . Remote Access With regards -- Siji Sunny

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extremely weird bug in Fedora
by Kenneth Gonsalves 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

hi, I just upgraded my FC10 to FC11. Booted from dvd and chose 'upgrade'. After upgrade, I did yum update. And my open office 2.x got replaced by 3.x, all my address books, book marks, passwords etc were all in the correct places. Everything worked out of the box. Obviously this is a bug. How do I report it and get it rectified. (The chicken I had bought to sacrifice in order to get the OO upgrade done remains alive) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Linux command-line introduction
by Raj Mathur 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

Gentle introduction to the Linux command line for rank beginners: http://en.flossmanuals.net/gnulinux Perhaps experienced users could also get some new insights from the manual :) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How can I secure my server from DoS attack ?
by Neelesh Gurjar 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

> > Neelesh Gurjar <neel.hjs(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a web server which has CentOS Linux 2.6.18-028stab059.6-ent kernel > > and Apache 1.3.37 running on it. > > > > 2 days back I got one script to test DoS attack on website. It is called > > slowloris.pl from http://ha.ckers.org/slowloris/ > > > > I run that script against my server and it worked. It stopped my website > > for > > some time. That time all other services like SSH were working fine. > > > > Can anybody suggests any configuration changes at Apache and OS/Kernel > > level > > to prevent from this type of attack ? > > > > Currently I am using following settings: > > > > Timeout 300 > > KeepAlive On > > MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 > > KeepAliveTimeout 5 > > MinSpareServers 5 > > MaxSpareServers 10 > > StartServers 5 > > MaxClients 150 > > MaxRequestsPerChild 0 > > > > Then Kernel settings are like : > > tcp_keepalive_time 7200 > > tcp_keepalive_time 9 > > tcp_keepalive_intvl 75 > > tcp_syn_retries 5 > > tcp_synack_retries 5 > > tcp_fin_timeout 60 > > > > mod_evasive, formerly known as mod_dosevasive is a Apache module that > provides evasive maneuvers action in the event of an HTTP DoS or DDoS > (Denial of Service) attack or brute force attack at the web server. When > possible attacks are detected, mod_evasive will block the traffic from the > source for a specific duration of time, while reports abuses via email and > syslog facilities. Or administrators can configure mod_evasive to talk to > iptables, ipchains, firewalls, routers, and etc. to build a comprehensive > DDOS prevention system for the high traffic busy web server. > Else, for Apache 1.3.x, .... Thanks very much Sameep for all this information. Regards Neelesh

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Flame Bait] Open Office not upgradable in Linux but possible in Windows.
by Praveen A 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

(Sorry, my device support only top posting) The term Open Source was coined by some members of the Free Software movement around 1998. This was started as a campaign to promote Free Software among businesses by not talking about ethical aspects, but only practical benefits of Free Software developing methods. Many people becomes uncomfortable, especially businesses, when talking about ethical responsibilities, so some people thought it would help the movement not to talk about uncomfortable things if the end result is larger community. But practically all open source code out these - using licences approved by open source initiative - is also free software - using licenses approved by free software foundation. Only exception is reciprocal license, which is considered as open source but not free software. But there is not much code that uses this licenses. What Krishnakanth was talking about is copyleft. Free Software foundation encourages everyone to use a copyleft license to protect the commons, but it is not a mandatory requirement for a free software. I suggest every one to read the free software definition again. BSD licensed code is as much free software as GPL licensed code. Protective and permissive licenses are two methods of distributing free software. - praveen On Jun 22, 2009 5:51 AM, "Raj Mathur" <raju(a)linux-delhi.org> wrote: On Monday 22 Jun 2009, Krishnakant wrote: > That is a mis interpritation of free software. > Free so... Once again, please do not mix up licences with philosophies of the free software and open source movements. OSI recognises the GPL as an Open Source licence, and FSF recognises the BSD licence as a Free Software licence. There are multiple issues here, which are unfortunately being made into a khichdi by this thread: 1. The philosophies of the free software and open source movements. 2. The methodologies the FS and OS movements use, advocate and propagate to achieve their ends. 3. Strong and weak copyleft licences, the reasons for their existence, and their effects. Choose any one you like and and discuss it to your heart's content, but, as Monsanto would say, please do not cross-pollinate ideas of one stream with facts from another! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ ... http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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How can I secure my server from DoS attack ?
by Neelesh Gurjar 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

Hi, I have a web server which has CentOS Linux 2.6.18-028stab059.6-ent kernel and Apache 1.3.37 running on it. 2 days back I got one script to test DoS attack on website. It is called slowloris.pl from http://ha.ckers.org/slowloris/ I run that script against my server and it worked. It stopped my website for some time. That time all other services like SSH were working fine. Can anybody suggests any configuration changes at Apache and OS/Kernel level to prevent from this type of attack ? Currently I am using following settings: Timeout 300 KeepAlive On MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 KeepAliveTimeout 5 MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 StartServers 5 MaxClients 150 MaxRequestsPerChild 0 Then Kernel settings are like : tcp_keepalive_time 7200 tcp_keepalive_time 9 tcp_keepalive_intvl 75 tcp_syn_retries 5 tcp_synack_retries 5 tcp_fin_timeout 60 -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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[Flame Bait] Open Office not upgradable in Linux but possible in Windows.
by Rony 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

Hello, Some time back I had put up a challenge to the list to install Open Office 3 in Ubuntu 8.04 and looks like no one has been able to do that. Well in Windows XP you simply uninstall the older Open Office version and install the latest version. You could even install OOo3 over the older 2.x version. So on _this_ point I declare Windows XP the winner. ;-) On Saturday I have to remove Ubuntu 8.04 from 5 machines and install Ubuntu 9.04 simply because upgrading Open Office is not possible in Linux. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Flame Bait] Open Office not upgradable in Linux but possible in Windows.
by Prashant Verma 22 Jun '09

22 Jun '09

At 11:01 AM 6/22/2009, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: >On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves<lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> wrote: > >> > and where is the evidence for that? > >> > >> As I had mentioned earlier. Bruce Perens, in the documentary "The Code". > > > > that is evidence? or an opinion? > > > >Should it matter if it comes from one of the founders of the OSD? At most that would be 'expert opinion'. Not evidence.

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Am i on moderation?
by jtd 22 Jun '09

22 Jun '09

Just resubscribed after being unsubscribed due to mtnl adsl being in transit (for 3 weeks!!) and resulting in excessive bounces. Can someone pull me out of moderation? -- Rgds JTD

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Need help in using Rdesktop command without running X session
by Neelesh Gurjar 21 Jun '09

21 Jun '09

Hi, I have installed voyage linux on thinclient. I have installed rdesktop and Xorg on it. However coz of space issue I couldnt install any window manager on it. So I have to connect Windows server from CLI only. I tried following command: $ rdesktop -f <server ip>:3389 It shows "ERROR: Failed to open display" Is there any work around to resolve this issue without changing any hardware? Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Looking for PHP-Sugar CRM experts(job Offer)
by Siji Sunny 20 Jun '09

20 Jun '09

Hello Friends, One of my friend looking for PHP sugar crm programmers who's running a software company in Thane.The person should be having good programming experience in LAMP and familiar with sugar CRM. So if anybody interested pls be in touch with Sunil Sharda ( sunil(a)advan-t-edge.net) With Regards -- Siji Sunny

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Visit my Netlog profile
by Kishor Gavali 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

Hey, I have created a Netlog profile with my pictures, videos, blogs and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. You first need to register on Netlog! When you log in, you can create your own profile. Take a look: http://en.netlog.com/go/mailurl/type=invite_1&mailid=334691920&id=1&url=-L2… Greetings, Kishor ---------------------------------------------------------------- Don't want to receive invitations from your friends anymore? http://en.netlog.com/go/mailurl/type=invite_1&mailid=334691920&id=2&url=-L2…

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Problem with Division
by Mayank 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

Hi, I'm sorry if this question has been asked before but I couldn't find any appropriate answer elsewhere and hence this post. Today while doing some calculation using bc I found a very peculiar thing. I was performing an operation -2 % -3 and the software reported the answer as -2. Now -2 > -3 and if I remember correctly then in divison operation the remainder is less than the divisor. So how come in this case the answer is not coming properly. Is it a software flaw or there is some mistake in my understanding of the division operation ? Thanks and regards, Mayank -- Today is tommorrow I was so worried about yesterday ...

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FOSSCOM Meeting in Delhi on June 4th
by Venkatesh Hariharan 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

We are planning a meeting of the FOSS COMmunity of India in Delhi, at the JNU Campus on 4th July to discuss key issues facing the FOSS community and strategies for dealing with them. All those interested are welcome. More details below. Venky ==== 1. Reporting on the Bangalore FOSSCOM 1st Meeting and follow up 2. Open Standards and actions by the FOSS community Follow up on the Department of IT's draft policy on open standards. It appears that some proprietary software vendors are blocking the policy. 3. FOSS in Education What the FOSS community can do in a) School Education b) Higher Education 4. Software Patents and other legal issues a) Take up pre and pre grant opposition for selected cases b) Take up the issue of Draft Manual which deviates from the Patent Act c) Take up cases with the Competition Commission, which are restrictive trade practices and are monopolistic. 5 Building political consensus around FOSS as India's best bet for development This is planned for the whole day and will start at 10.00 AM. We will give you the actual venue shortly, but it is planned to be in JNU, For outstation people, this is in Soth Delhi. Those who require accommodation, please let us know, we will try and arrange. The travel costs as well as the cost of stay will have to be borne by the participants. We will arrange for the venue and lunch. For those requesting accommodation, please write to the following: Prof. Andrew Lynn Andrew Lynn <lynn.andrew(a)gmail.com> "rajesh kalithody" <myidrajesh@gmail Any suggestion/modifications to the agenad is welcome. For initiating the discussion, suggesting the following: Item 1.Banaglore meeting and follow-up: Sunil/Guru Item 2. Open Standards Venkatesh Hariharan Item 3. Education Guru/Jaijit Item4. Patents Prabir Item 5. Free wheeling. The purpose of initiation is that at least some home work is done before the meeting. Time for this should be around 5-10 minutes. Hoping that this is not to short a notice and you will be able to attend. Please circulate this widely to whoever you think should attend. If some people have to be formally requested, please let us know and we will follow up at our end also. Best, Prabir Purkayastha

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Protest against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act?
by Saurabh Nanda 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

Does anyone know of organized (preferably mass) protests against Section 69A and 69B of the IT-Act, 2009? [1] http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/06/07/stories/2009060750090300.htm [2] http://www.mit.gov.in/default.aspx?id=969 Saurabh. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com http://foodieforlife.blogspot.com

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confusion about location of Gnukhata
by Kenneth Gonsalves 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

hi, http://gnukhata.gnulinux.in/ appears to be not in current use. It points to a mailing list at googlegroups which is full of spam. This is not good for the project. Please clean or shut down the mailing list and make the site point to the current development site and mailing lists. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Personal invitation from Durvesh Chury
by Durvesh Chury 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

Personal invitation from Durvesh Chury

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[JOB OFFER] Looking for Perl gurus and experienced Perl developers
by Srinivasan Krishnan 16 Jun '09

16 Jun '09

Hello, Flightnetwork.com is a leading Canadian travel portal. We launched just four years ago. Within that short period, we've already overtaken several established organizations to claim the second position in the Canadian online travel market. We're seeing huge growth in revenues and volumes even at this time, and are in the process of implementing a very ambitious international expansion plan. You can check us out at http://www.flightnetwork.com. All our websites are built on an extended LAMPP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL and Perl). Our Linux platform of choice is Debian GNU/Linux, though some of our developers do use Ubuntu on their workstations. We're currently recruiting heavily for our India development team. At this time we have positions open for engineers with skillsets in Perl and/ or Python on the Linux platform coupled with a deep knowledge of XML and related technologies such as SOAP, as well as the MySQL and PostgreSQL database systems. Prior experience in the travel industry is an asset, as is knowledge of C++. Candidates can choose to work either remotely out of their home or from our India development office in Ahmedabad. If you believe that you fit this profile, please do not hesitate to email your resume in text or PDF format to krishnan (at) farematrix.com. Please put the words [ILUG-BOM] somewhere in the subject line of your email. Salary will not be a constraint for the right candidates. Flightnetwork.com is an equal opportunity employer. Qualified applicants are considered for employment without regard to age, race, color, religion, gender, national origin or sexual orientation. And we're a fun place to work! Thanks, Krishnan

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OT - Thumb scanning / swipe card system
by Richard Victor Correia 16 Jun '09

16 Jun '09

Hi, One of my friend is looking for a thumb scanner/ swipe card software provider for their School. Please contact me at richard.correia at zizatech <.> com in case someone knows such company. -- Thanks, Richard Victor Correia

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badly need someone to come and help me install linux
by Rajesh Ruparel 16 Jun '09

16 Jun '09

so it does everything winxp does thats all let me know how it will cost.

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