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Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by jtd 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

July 2008 favourite punching bag will resign from M$ as chief software architect. The orginal PR stated that he was resiginig as Chairman. But a clarification from billybaba says that he will remain chairman forever. Hopefully the rest of the garbage will remove itself too and there will be some real architecture in place of spahgetti. -- Rgds JTD

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School days
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

> In my school, one day the boys got together to shout > "bhago bhago" just when the class was about to get over. It became a > very serious matter involving the principal too. He threatened the > entire class with punishment unless the guilty persons owned up. One of > our classmates admitted that he only said "bha", he did not say "go" as > the teacher had turned around by then. This amused everyone and we were > let of with a small punishment. :) Well something similar happened when i was in class X. The library was lit up with lights which were distributed across two phases. Once one of the phases went kaput, and we the perennial back-benchers found ourselves in the darker part of the library. I initiated a 'Andhera Kayam Rahe', inspired from the crook in the Shaktiman series, which soon spread like woildfire. Things took an ugly turn, and I was taken to the principal on admitting that I had done it. Luckily the punishment turned out to be much lesser than was promised initially. Cheers, Debarshi

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permissions on /var/www in Ubuntu
by Rohit V Bhute 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

I've messed up the ugo permissions on the /var/www directory which is now giving me a 403 Forbidden error. Details as follows. 1. 'www-data' user and group - created (I assume) when I installed apache2 and used by it. 2. The /var/www directory had 'root' in its owner and group fields. 3. I changed the owner and group of /var/www to 'www-data' and added 'root' and 'rohit' (normal user) to the 'www-data' group and changed the directory permissions to 775. Now, I get a 403 error. The apache2-default folder, which is owned by 'root' is accessible through through the server. Can anybody tell me the right permissions of the www directory so I can add/edit/delete stuff without using sudo?. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org

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AntiDialer (Broadband Dialer for Sify) v0.1 released
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

(AntiDialer is a GNU/Linux broadband dialer for Sify broadband users) Hi, I have released AntiDialer v0.1 into the wild today. The main feature of this release is that it is no longer just a GUI dialer. It is now a console based dialer with a GUI plugin. Here are the details: AntiDialer version 0.1 is out today. Get it here: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=157014&package_id=17… This version has been released in three forms: 0) source tarball 1) debian package 2) rpm package (auto-created from the deb package with alien) New Features: ------------------ 0. Complete rewrite of the core to remove all dependence on QT libraries. QT dependency is only for the UI plugin now. 1. Console based interface for the shell junkies 2. Plugin interface to allow new feature implementation in the form of separate plugin libraries 3. A GUI plugin based on QT 4. Ability to provide username/password at console. You may write the command with username and password into an rc.d file and it will autoconnect on startup. Features removed: -------------------------- 0. Heartbeat: This feature is useless unless you want a tray icon alive all the time. A tray icon can be implemented as a plugin. The old heartbeat code is still there in the tarball if anyone's interested. Regards, Siddhesh -- http://siddhesh.tk

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Re: MTNL Mumbai Newsletter
by Roshan 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

JTD wrote: > MTNL says IE is vulnerable and > "It is suggested to install another browser apart > from IE as a standby > alternative. > Following are some of the other standard browsers > available on > internet and their locations from where they can be > downloaded. > Netscape ver 8.1 > http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/ > FireFox ver 1.5.0.4 > http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ > Opera ver 8.5 http://www.opera.com/ > Avant ver 10.2 http://www.avantbrowser.com/" This is good news. There are people at MTNL who understand, there are few holes in IE and are asking their customers to look out for options. I vote for MOZILLA FIREFOX! > So people are peering outa the window. > Times Insta poll says that 80% of respondents want > Indian government > to implement opensource technologies. I think, there's already an instance of the same. The national portal of India (http://www.india.gov.in). Pages are developed using PHP and hosted on Apache, Redhat Linux > Billybaba resigning and his sharp practices. Would that make a big difference to organizations who purchase Microsoft Products? __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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MTNL Mumbai Newsletter
by jtd 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

MTNL says IE is vulnerable and "It is suggested to install another browser apart from IE as a standby alternative. Following are some of the other standard browsers available on internet and their locations from where they can be downloaded. Netscape ver 8.1 http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/ FireFox ver 1.5.0.4 http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ Opera ver 8.5 http://www.opera.com/ Avant ver 10.2 http://www.avantbrowser.com/" So people are peering outa the window. Times Insta poll says that 80% of respondents want Indian government to implement opensource technologies. along with an article about Billybaba resigning and his sharp practices. Mainstream press is noticing things. -- Rgds JTD

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New linux Library
by x x 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

I propose to start a library of linux books soon. I am looking forward to some suggestions on startup collection on this thread. For availing books contact me offlist at 9969302344. _________________________________________________________________ Fall in Love... Get married! Join FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=msnhottag

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google earth
by Harsh Busa 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

Google has started supporting their apps on linux first was picasa and now its ggl earth http://dl.google.com/earth/GE4/GoogleEarthLinux.bin -- __________________________ http://www.ebackend.com/blog

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Are there any online trading software ...
by Steven Joseph 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

Hi, Are there any online trading software availiable in linux. Are there any firms that offer online trading applications for linux... similar to 1 paisa .coms desktop trading software Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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CUI (text-based) OS?
by Roshan 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

LO, If given a choice, would anybody like to come back to a CUI based Operating System...those good old days of UNIX / the 1990's (early) Linux OS? (or GNU/Linux, if it had been associated) This very thought has its roots in the short story below! Long time back in my first year (BSc I. T.), I had developed a small utility for DOS in C(we did not have GNU/Linux anywhere around in first year!) which was a "one letter DOS"(kindof emulator for DOS). Any user who would run it, would just have to type a single letter to execute / display something. For example, if one wants to clear the screen, he has to just type the letter 'b' (b for blank). 'h' for help! --------------------------------- If you don't know something, its always better to learn it and then experiment with components! PLAN THINGS BEFORE EXECUTION! Visit http://www.somaiya.edu You have the ability to change things so that they, not only benefit you but others as well, but you might resist to...think about it! The different distros of GNU/Linux pretty much resemble the different cultures of indians all having the same foundation (the kernel) Use OpenOffice.orgDownload it for windows from http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.0/ "Intentions are written with pencil.Commitments are carved on Stones!" - CLINT A. D'SOUZA Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/

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Linux compatible PCI IDE adapter
by Faraz Shahbazker 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

I am looking to setup software RAID-1 on my home computer and need an extra IDE interface. Any ideas on tried-and-tested PCI-IDE adapters/chipsets for GNU/Linux which are locally available(read Lamington Road). I am also considering the alternative of buying a SATA hdd, in which case I would need to know of Linux compatible PCI-SATA controllers/chipsets. Once again the operative conditions would be locally available and somewhat cheap(<= 1k). Thanks, farazs

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GNU/Linux books...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

Some books available with Shroff Publishers at Mumbai spdorders(a)shroffpublishers.com O'REILLY * Linux in a Nutshell Rs 500 * MySQL in a Nutshell Rs 325 * Open Source for the Enterprise Rs 250 * Perl best practices Rs 450 * Perl Testing: Developer's Nbk Rs 225 * Test driving Linux Rs 350 CHARLES RIVER MEDIA * Linux TCP/IP Stack Rs 450 NO STARCH PRESS * Linux Cookbook Rs 600 * Linux for Non-Geeks Rs 300 * The official GNOME 2 Developer's Guide Rs 475 * Wi-Fi Rs 250 * Write Great Code Rs 400 For FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software0 news from across Asia, please visit http://feeds.goa-india.org

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[commercial] - JOBS StartUp Company Based on Linux Platform
by shamshu shaikh 15 Jun '06

15 Jun '06

Hi friends, Mine is a StartUp company based on Linux Platform in Bombay, i would like to have linux techies ( even freshers with attitude to deliver the best) to be on board with me to achieve their as well as company goals in the best and fastest possible way. People interested to join me can feel free to contact me at shamshu.s(a)gmail.com.Please send in your CV with contact details. The areas of work should be qmail,sendmail,apache,mysql,ldap,iptables,RPM's. Regards shamshu Regards shamshu shamshu_s(a)rediffmail.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] CUI (text-based) OS?
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 15 Jun '06

15 Jun '06

>"one letter DOS"(kindof emulator for DOS). Any user >who would run it, would just have to type a single >letter to execute / display something. For example, if >one wants to clear the screen, he has to just type the >letter 'b' (b for blank). 'h' for help! Life would be a lot simpler if users did just 26 things.. Seriously, we need both that's why all OS have a "command line" -- Gishu

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possibly a bug in ubuntu
by Mohan Nayaka 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hi all I wanted to check before filing a bug report for ubuntu. Intermittently, i.e. about twice in five sessions, the whole UI boats up by about 1.5 to 2 times. This has become more frequent in 6.06 . This is a serious usability issue, as important configuration dialogs such users-admin are clipped at the bottom. This is observed in both gnome & kde. This has been an issue since the time of 5.04 However if this were a wide-spread issue, it would have probably been fixed by now. Hence, i am hesitating to raise a bug for the same. Please advise. Regards, Mohan S N -- There will be plenty of time to rest in the grave. - Paul Erdos

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Linuxformat in India
by Hemant Charya 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hi, I am Hemant Charya. I work for a major publishing house in Mumbai, India. We intend to make Linuxformat (http://linuxformat.co.uk/) magazine availabe in India, at Indian prices. Linuxformat magazine is very popular in UK . It is accompanied by a DVD (July '06 DVD contains: Polished Mandriva spin-off PCLinuxOS, and rock-solid enterprise-ready CentOS, KOffice 1.5, Oracle 10g XE, games and more As a publisher we want to learn from the Indian Linux community and potential readers: 1. Whether the Linux users in India like to read an international magazine dedicated to Linux? 2. Would they be interested in subscribing to such a magazine. 3. What would be the most the most attractive cover-price in Indian Rupees? (The internatonal edition of Linuxformat is available in select bookstores of Mumbai. A single issue costs an exorbitant 600+ Rupees). Your feedback is extremely valuable for us. Only you can help us bring an awesome monthly read purely about Linux and at affordable Indian prices. The highlights of the July '06 issue of LinuxFormat are below. * Top kernel maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman explains why binary drivers are evil * Lessons in Linux - In-depth feature on Linux growth in schools and universities * Reviews - Ubuntu 6.06, Oracle 10g Express Edition, Second Life, GnuCash 2.0, Ogre 3D 1.2, books, blog engines... More can be found at http://linuxformat.co.uk/ . Regards, Hemant Charya Mumbai

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Copy cat M$
by Puneet Lakhina 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

This a link to a review of vista beta with a humongous amount of screenshots. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vista/ I am posting this link here coz i was shocked to find the extent of just simple plain copying of features that has been done in internet exploere 7. It borrows tabbed browsing, rss feed reader, explicit mgmt of add ons.. list is endless. Is this right?? Are they required to acknowledge it?? under some license clause of firefox. Coz they will now make glitzy videos demonstarting something thats been there for ages in mozilla and firefox. -- Puneet

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Online petition to make HDFC Mozilla friendly
by bombay news 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Dear Linuxers, I have created an online petition with an aim to persuade HDFC bank and its associate www.hdfcsec.com to become more receptable to open source software. At present HDFC's tradiing site- www.hdfcsec.com can only be accessed by Internet Explorer with no support at all extended to Mozilla Firefox or Opera. This forces a lot of open source enthusiasts to keep IE on their PCs or hit cybercafes to access their online trading accounts. Hopefully this petition with some help from the open source community will result in HDFC becoming more responsive to the needs of the growing open source community in the country. Please sign the petition on: http://www.petitiononline.com/freehdfc/petition.html Also forward this message to other open source enthusiasts so that enough pressure can be built up on HDFC Bank and its associates. Regards Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ How good are you in a Formula One car? Play now http://server1.msn.co.in/sp05/tataracing/onlinegame.asp

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Moderation ?
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hi guys, I posted a job offer from one of my clients, I put the [commercial] tag. But I got a message from the list saying : Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.The reason it is being held: Message has implicit destination Can someone tell me what this means ? I couldnt figure it out. Regards Saswata

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Triband problems
by bombaynews 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Just installed Linspire on a partition. I am unable to stay connected using MTNL's Triband for long though i have no such problems when using an old GNOME live CD. I am therefore forced to switch back to Windows XP to get online. Shiv Kumar

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Checking MTNL broadband usage using ifconfig or logs
by Aparna Appaiah 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Dear List, I am using the MTNL Triband broadband service with Debian Sarge. I connect to the modem using DHCP, and get on and off by using /etc/init.d/networking (start|stop) Now, I am looking for an unobtrusive way of measuring how many bytes I use up every session, especially as I find the MTNL account check very unreliable. I heard that the TX bytes and RX bytes are the correct indicators in the output of /sbin/ifconfig eth0. I wanted to know whether noting these down is a measure of how much I have used in that session. Also, I wanted to know whether these details are logged elsewhere on my PC, in some file, so that I can extract the details from that file. (It can be assumed that I connect to the internet only from Sarge). Thank you. Aparna

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Adrenaline rush ...
by Steven Joseph 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Hi I use suse super and i experimented a bit and found out that using a flashdisk for a swap partition significantly improves performance. +set /cat/proc/sys/vm/swappiness a high value like 80 a must try . Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Kernel Panic: Fatal Exception.
by Nadeem M. Khan 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Hi. I got a Kernel Panic: Fatal Exception error when my RHEL3 system was up and running. After this, the system crashed. Rebooting it solved the problem. The strange part here is that I got the error when the system was up and running and not during boot which is normally the case. Strangely, the messages file does not have any entry about the error. Is there any way by which I can determine the cause of the problem and hence avoid it in the future? Regards, NMK.

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very intresting distro ...
by Steven Joseph 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

hi, Any one's tried out SLAX itsa really neat distro. Boots from cd usb ... only 2[0-9][0-9] MB comes in different flavours ... downloadable install packages (modules)... modular KDE and a selection of the best oss out there If u dont have an fast internet connection then this is what u are looking for. http://www.slax.org/ Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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[Commercial] SysAdmin Job
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

FOUB interactive, the company that developed and operates the portal http://www.bombayharbour.com is looking for a system administrator. The company operates fully on Linux Platform and uses primarily open source tools for its work. Any interested candidate my contact Mr. Harjit Singh Ubhi on Harjit <harjit(a)gsimail.com> or call him on 9821384562. (Please do not send resumes to the group ID or to me.) They are looking for persons of 2-3 years experiance. Knowledge of php based development will be an added advantage. Regards Saswata

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Motorola SM56 modem in linux
by Samir 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

Hi List, I m using RHES 4 n want to use my motorola sm56 pci data/voice/fax modem in linux also. can u plz tell me how do i configure it n frm where do i get the drivers for the modem to get it installed on linux. -- Friends are like an treasure,so if you want to become rich in your life make as many friends as possible in the life. Samir.A.Sanghvi [B.E. in EXTC] 9820812842

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Grub issue
by V.K.Bharadwaj 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

From: "Puneet Lakhina" <puneet.lakhina(a)gmail.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 00:52:10 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Grub issue I have two hard disks. THe hard disk which is connected as slave has grub on <snip> But when i try and boot into the xp installation of the master disk, it boots into the xp installation of slave only. The entry for the master xp installation in menu.lst is as follows root (hd1,0) makeactive savedefaults chainloader +1 I have added this entry myself. COuld anyone suggest what the problem could be?? -- Puneet I believe the primary harddisk in your situation will be referred to as "hd0" (and not "hd1"), irrespective of your BIOS boot device settings. --- VKB

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internal modem drivers for 2.6 kernel , anyone ??
by sharan rao 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

I have a (Dlink) DFM - 560IS +++ internal modem. I wanted a driver for Linux kernel 2.6 for it. When i bought the modem, a year back,i got a driver for the 2.4 kernel with the modem. So i am forced to use the older version of the kernel to connect to the internet using the entire bandwidth. Has anyone bought a Dlink internal Modem (connexant chipset) recently,... ? Maybe you have the driver for the 2.6 kernel. linuxant.com does provide drivers for 2.6 but one can connect only at speeds of 14.4Kbps using it. The full version is something around 20$ .. I called up Dlink (knowing i won't get anywhere) today.The guy at the call center after making me wait for atleast 10-15 minutes, gave me the linuxant url... :-) with a disclaimer that it wasn't supported by Dlink..!! He kept saying that Dlink doesn't support Linux et all.I asked him why Dlink didn't tell the modem vendor to explain that to me when i was buying the modem. I expected a reply like "Microsoft Windows is more popular ... blah blah" but what i got was this -- "You need OpenSource drivers for Linux and 'it' keeps changing, so it is difficult to support Linux ".. I tried to reason out with him politely, but he kept giving me the same answer like a tape recorder..!! (and yes... he didn't know that Dlink provides drivers for Linux with the product...!! ;-) ) sharan rao.

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Re: Linuxformat in India
by Roshan 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

> > As a publisher we want to learn from the Indian > Linux community and > > potential readers: > > 1. Whether the Linux users in India like to read > an international > > magazine dedicated to Linux? > > 2. Would they be interested in subscribing to such > a magazine. > > 3. What would be the most the most attractive > cover-price in Indian > > Rupees? (The internatonal edition of Linuxformat > is available in > > select bookstores of Mumbai. A single issue costs > an exorbitant 600+ > > Rupees). 1. Considering the amount of penetration of Microsoft's Windows Operating System, in Mumbai, only a handful of Linux users would be interested a magazine dedicated to Linux (GNU/Linux). 2. Desktop Users who use Linux (GNU/Linux), but do not have access to the internet at home, would be interested in subscribing to the magazine. But as mentioned in the first point, the share of Linux (GNU/Linux) as operating system is fairly less. 3. On the stands, between Rs. 80 - 130 and/or attractive subscription schemes for 1 year / 3 years / 5 years with savings for the subscriber along with contests / great prizes should be considered for pricing issues. > 1. Yes I would very much like to read such a > magazine not because its an > international magazine but because hopefully the > quality of this is > better than most magazines that we see currently in > India. > > 2. Yes. > > 3. I guess Rs.100-150/- should be reasonable. You > should print several > editions for different pricing and different > goodies. > > > Your feedback is extremely valuable for us. Only > you can help us > > bring an awesome monthly read purely about Linux > and at affordable > > Indian prices. Possibly, there should be some pre-marketing for using GNU/Linux (in the magazine), (collaborating a few issues of the magazine with Digit / PCQuest etc. ) so that people become aware of what they can do at less cost. People should understand, that there are operating systems that can be purchased for low prices / downloaded free from the internet and used. (A computer can run operating systems other than windows!) Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/

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Connect LG-LSP350T to internet
by िऩऩाद 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

Hi I have taken a FWP of Tata Indicom(LG-LSP350T). I got a usb data cable and am trying to connect to the internet but to no avail. Sometime back I had read in these forums how to connect the 350R phone of Reliance. It was also mentioned that FC4 automatically detected the modem. I have installed FC4. How do i find out whether the modem is detected and how do i connect to the internet िऩऩाद बापट

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Checking MTNL broadband usage using ifconfig or logs
by Amish Mehta 11 Jun '06

11 Jun '06

Aparna Appaiah wrote: > Dear List, > > I am using the MTNL Triband broadband service with Debian Sarge. I > connect to the modem using DHCP, and get on and off by using > > /etc/init.d/networking (start|stop) Try bridged mode(instead of DHCP) to get a PPP session. > Now, I am looking for an unobtrusive way of measuring how many bytes I > use up every session, Everytime PPP session ends, the ip-down script is called with environment variables BYTES_SENT and BYTES_RCVD set as per that session. Simply 'cat' that to a log file with timestamp. For more details: man pppd, adsl-setup Amish

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Online petition to make HDFC Mozilla friendly
by bimal pandit 10 Jun '06

10 Jun '06

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 bombaynews wrote : >I sent a link to the online petition to the HDFC guys and got this wishy-washy response in return. Maybe the webmaster at hdfcsec.com (webmaster(a)hdfcsec.com) needs to be educated on open source software... > >shiv kumar > > > >Dear Sir, > >This is with reference to your below mentioned mail. > >Please note that functioning of our Website, HDFC SECURITIES LTD depends >upon your Browser, which in turn depends upon your Internet Service >Provider. > >Kindly note that our new site is compatible only to Internet explorer 6.0 >with Cipher Strength : 128-bit and it is very important to set your screen >resolution to 1024 X 768 for viewing the demo and also when logging in to >the new trading site. > >Further we have made a note of your suggestions mentioned below, and the >same will be forwarded to the concerned desk who will look in to the same. > >Please continue to write to us your valuable suggestions and inputs, which >will help us serve you better. > >Hope the above information suffices, kindly revert to us should you need >further assistance. > >Thanking and assuring you of our best services always. > >With Regards, >Yamini Potti. >Customer Care Desk >HDFC Securities Ltd. >Contact : 28346600 (Mumbai) > 1800-22-9700 (Toll Free) >Email : customercare(a)hdfcsec.com > > > > > > >>Please sign the petition on: >> >>http://www.petitiononline.com/freehdfc/petition.html >> >>Also forward this message to other open source enthusiasts so that enough pressure can be built up on HDFC Bank and its associates. >> >>Regards >>Shiv Kumar >> > ha... ha... ha... I remember a quite "Har Shaakh pe ULLU baithen hain, anjamain gulistaa kya hoga!!!" ha... ha... ha... by the way the person is looking for "in case you need further assistance" so whats up??? ha... ha... ha... Bimal Pandit

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Re:Which (Fedora, Redhat) based distro; best?
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

> If the subject line confuses, or indicates, best of > distros, the body of the email isn't. > > What I am interested to know, is which distro among > Fedora Core would be best for the hardware > configuration I have > > I plan to buy a new HDD and interested to know, which > Redhat / Fedora Distro would be best > > Microprocessor: Pentium IV 1.7 GHz > RAM: 256 MB DDR > Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse > SAMTRON 15" Monitor > SONY CD-RW CRX23EE 52x / 32x / 52x > Realtek Ethernet Card > > (here comes the odd part) > ASUS Motherboard P4S333VM > SiS 7012 Soundcard > SiS 650 onboard Graphics card > > Though the sound card was detected in Redhat 9.0 (the > one I am using currently), none of the sound modules > (arts, ALSA) worked properly. > > I am not interested in Debain Distros because, I have > absolutely no idea of a lot of things. Once, I have > some introduction (through different sources on the > internet), I'll dual boot... > > But, can I dual boot among different distro's > Something like Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE 10.2? > > Also, if anyone has used GAIM on MTNL TRIBAND, please > let me know. > > I also plan to buy a new keyboard. Any suggestions for > a new keyboard ? (Simple ...no MM) > I would suggest you should definitely go for Fedora 5 . Its just the best of all the Fedoras (atleast I have experienced so). Hardware detection is just great unless you have any exotic hardware...and you dont seem to have any. I never had a sound problem with Fedora. And in RH9 the sound problem is very common , many of my friends' and even my college comp went without sound in RH9...and SUSE10.0 too. Networking with ADSL/PPPOE is a breeze in fedora . Triband will work just fine...and gaim too. Also my MM Keyboard works fine in Fedora with the iTouch plugin for XMMS. I couls not get MM keys to work in Ubuntu Dapper at all. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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ubuntu
by bombaynews 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

has anyone on this list test driven the new ubuntu 6.06 LTS (DAPPER DRAKE)? shiv kumar

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Which (Fedora, Redhat) based distro; best?
by Roshan 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

LO, If the subject line confuses, or indicates, best of distros, the body of the email isn't. What I am interested to know, is which distro among Fedora Core would be best for the hardware configuration I have I plan to buy a new HDD and interested to know, which Redhat / Fedora Distro would be best Microprocessor: Pentium IV 1.7 GHz RAM: 256 MB DDR Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse SAMTRON 15" Monitor SONY CD-RW CRX23EE 52x / 32x / 52x Realtek Ethernet Card (here comes the odd part) ASUS Motherboard P4S333VM SiS 7012 Soundcard SiS 650 onboard Graphics card Though the sound card was detected in Redhat 9.0 (the one I am using currently), none of the sound modules (arts, ALSA) worked properly. I am not interested in Debain Distros because, I have absolutely no idea of a lot of things. Once, I have some introduction (through different sources on the internet), I'll dual boot... But, can I dual boot among different distro's Something like Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE 10.2? Also, if anyone has used GAIM on MTNL TRIBAND, please let me know. I also plan to buy a new keyboard. Any suggestions for a new keyboard ? (Simple ...no MM) Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/

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Re: tar question ...
by Amish Mehta 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

Arun K. Khan wrote: > >On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 21:11 +0530, Amish Mehta wrote: >> Arun K. Khan wrote: >> ># tar -cvjf /data2/sys-backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude-from=/exclude-file >> > >> >/exclude_file is a text file with (directories space separated on one line): >> >/home /data1 /data2 >> >> Specify each on separate line (not separated by space). > >Does it work for you (version of tar)? My verions of tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 --- packaged with RH9 Command I run is tar czvp -X bkpexclude base libs demo website > bkp.`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`.tgz base, libs, demo, website are directories to backup bkpexclude contains base/bin demo/bin website/notimp Amish.

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[OT] Harddisk required for Linux server...
by Dinesh Joshi 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

Hi list, I need a harddisk to setup a new server. I am not looking for a big one. Anything from a 10GB to 40GB will do. Preferrably 20GB. If someone has a seagate which is _less_ that 3 years old and has no bad sectors then please contact me off list. I am willing to pay Rs.800-1000/- at the most. Thanks. -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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[OT] Any reliance powersurfer downtime?
by Dinesh Joshi 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Hi list, Are there any powersurfer (power sufferers :P ) customers here? Their andheri network has been down for the past 7 days i.e. from 31st May. The reason they are citing is that their switches got damaged in the rains. AFAIK this hasn't happened in the past. This down time is killing... Any good alternative ISP in andheri area who you guys would suggest? I am willing to pay upto 600 bucks a month for a 64Kbps (8kBps) connection and 800 bucks for a 128Kbps (16kBps). All I want is a public IP (doesnt matter whether its static or dynamic), no port blocks, consistent uptimes, stable speeds and ofcourse should be compatible with Linux. Airtel is available in our area but not in my particular building... Help! -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ubuntu
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

> I recently dist-upgraded to Ubuntu Dapper Drake. Its awesome i must > say. I downloaded the Live+Install Cd and it refused to recognise the partitions on my first hard-disk . So people on the Ubuntu Forums suggested me to use the alternate CD. I downloaded that and got the same results. I am at my wits end tring to figure out the problem . Here is my Fdisk output from Fedora 5 ..I want to use /dev/hda2 to install Ubuntu. Also the current GRUB is installed in MBR of hda . Fedora and XP workin fine. [root@aniket aniket]# /sbin/fdisk -l omitting empty partition (5) Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 638 5124703+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda2 639 1275 5116702+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 1276 4865 28836675 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda4 1914 3591 13478503+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda5 1276 1318 345334+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda6 1319 1913 4779306 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda7 3592 4865 10233373+ b W95 FAT32 Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB, 80060424192 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 1305 10482381 83 Linux /dev/hdb2 1306 9733 67697910 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb5 1306 3916 20972826 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb6 3917 6527 20972826 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb7 6528 9688 25390701 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb8 9689 9733 361431 82 Linux swap / Solaris Also i want to know how to configure pppoe in Ubuntu. What I did in the Live Cd was , "sudo pppoeconf" . Then I followed the wizard. But it never asked me the service/access concentrator name . I need to enter those as there are multiple pppoe services on my LAN. Please help me as I really want to use Ubuntu.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ubuntu
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

> > /dev/hda2 should be the Extended partition. For your first HDD, its not > the case. I think the partitions are numbered in the sequence any > detected Primary, detected Extended, then the ones inside Extended. hdx1 > to hdx4 are kept for the four main (for a lack of better term) > partitions (i.e. upto a max of 4 primary or 3 primary and one extended). > hdx5 onwards are given to the ones encountered inside the Extended > partitions. > > Thats what I've seen on my installs. If your FC is working (as it > obviously is), then maybe my reasoning is off-target. Well I found out the error ...... If you can see the entry for my extended partition , it says cylinder 1276 to cylinder 4865 . so , a partition from 1914 to 3591 (ie hda4 shown above) should be a logical partition inside this extended partition. But the partition hda4 above , from 1914 to 3591 is listed as a primary partition . So cylinders 1914 to 3591 were being counted twice causing the windoze partition manager to report my 40GB HDD as 59GB hdd. , and Gparted to not detect any partitions at all. Screw M$ and Winblows. Also I dunno how FC5 was working just great even with that error. I have to keep a copy of XP so that my local internet provider can debug it when the connection goes down, he cant use Linux at all, else I would have junked it for good. > > > Also i want to know how to configure pppoe in Ubuntu. What I did in > > Break into its config file somewhere in /etc/ppp. I forgot to check it > when hopping back from Linux. You will have to do a pppoe <some option> > to get your access concentrators listed, I believe. > I found out from the man pages that the kernel mode pppoe installed in Ubuntu cannot handle multiple access concentrators. Its designed to be used with Triband etc ie.DSL modems. If you have only one service on your LAN its ok, else you have to use rp-pppoe package from roaringpenguin website. It also has a GUI config utility to enter service name. Posting from Ubuntu Dapper now, its great but I just say not easy to configure repos in synaptic as Fedora/Yum . The utility itself is great but the default repo config did not work for me and had to be edited manually as it had some in.ubuntu... mirrors listed which gave 404 errors. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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FYI - SuSE 10.1 DVD w/ LFY Jun/06
by Arun K. Khan 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Without prejudice and FWIW, LFY Jun/06 includes the SuSE 10.1 DVD (32 bit). Have not installed it but the _all_ the RPMs check out OK. -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) She liked him; he was a man of many qualities, even if most of them were bad.

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Re: tar question ...
by Amish Mehta 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Arun K. Khan wrote: ># tar -cvjf /data2/sys-backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude-from=/exclude-file > >/exclude_file is a text file with (directories space separated on one line): >/home /data1 /data2 Specify each on separate line (not separated by space). Amish.

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Re: Viamatic foXpose
by Roshan 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

> It is already there in Firefox. It is an add-on by > the name of > Viamatic foXpose by Vivek Jishtu. Here is the link: > https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1457/ I have installed this plugin. The only difference I see from the screenshot of Vista, is the so called "3-D" effect of tabs ! But, no problem, it serves the purpose of thumbnails of tabs! That's enough for me Thanks for the link! --------------------------------- If you don't know something, its always better to learn it and then experiment with components! PLAN THINGS BEFORE EXECUTION! Visit http://www.somaiya.edu You have the ability to change things so that they, not only benefit you but others as well, but you might resist to...think about it! The different distros of GNU/Linux pretty much resemble the different cultures of indians all having the same foundation (the kernel) Use OpenOffice.orgDownload it for windows from http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.0/ "Intentions are written with pencil.Commitments are carved on Stones!" - CLINT A. D'SOUZA Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com

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FC4 CDs needed : south mumbai
by Abhishek Daga 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Hi, Does anyone have FC4 CDs in south mumbai? I would like to borrow them, so if available please contact me off list and I can pick them up and make a copy and return them to you. thanks abhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] TriBand DSL/POTS question
by Arun K. Khan 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

I have a MTNL land line and TriBand DSL on the same copper pair. Since 14.00 hours today no dialtone on the telephone thus cannot make any outgoing calls but DSL is working. On the flip side call my land line number from my mobile and I get audible indicating that the exchange does not think there is any problem with my line. This happened to my line last year during the 26/July downpour but auto corrected a few days later but voice quality was poor. Complained to MTNL and they replaced the splitter subsequently restoring acceptable voice quality. So ... to eliminate the possibility of a damaged splitter, I disconnected everything and hooked up the phone instrument directly to the pair coming in from MTNL - no dial tone. Anybody experienced this before? Any suggestion what/where the problem could be? In the mean while will lodge a complaint with MTNL as well. TIA, -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Never call a man a fool. Borrow from him.

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Red Hat developer program & test suite
by Venkatesh Hariharan 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Recently, Red Hat launched a developer program called 108 for * Enterprise developers building solutions around open source technology * Systems integrators combining open source and proprietary software * Developers looking to discuss, learn, and collaborate Users can sign up for this program at https://www.108.redhat.com/ Another announcement that application developers may like is the release of dogtail, a GUI test tool and automation framework written in Python, under the GPL license. More info on this is available at http://people.redhat.com/zcerza/dogtail/ Regards, Venky

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sgid permission
by samir sanghvi 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Hi, Can u explain me the concept of SGID special permisssion. Actually I m not getting the application of this special permission.

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 05 Jun '06

05 Jun '06

> Ok as far as something to learn from it.. well they have something called a > preview feature whereby all open windows are like displayed as thumbnails.. > like tiles.. which i think could be a really good.. It is already there in Firefox. It is an add-on by the name of Viamatic foXpose by Vivek Jishtu. Here is the link: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1457/ Cheers, Debarshi

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tar question ...
by Arun K. Khan 03 Jun '06

03 Jun '06

/dev/sda1 is mounted on / /dev/sda2 is mounted on /home /dev/hda1 is mounted on /data1 /dev/hda2 is mounted on /data2 OS - SuSE 10.0 x86_64 # tar -cvjf /data2/sys-backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude-from=/exclude-file /exclude_file is a text file with (directories space separated on one line): /home /data1 /data2 The tar man page describes --exclude-from=FILE should skip the entries in FILE. However, in my case tar merrily backed up /home, /data1, and /data2 i.e. ignored --exclude-from option. what the ????? There is no example of the entry format of FILE. -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Finagle's fourth Law: Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it only makes it worse.

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Unionfs on Kernel 2.6.15
by Sameer Bagwe 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hello all, I'm not able to successfully compile unionfs with the above kernel version. Any pointers plz. Or if any1 has the compiled unionfs.ko for the this kernel so that I can insert this module. I'm working on a custom restricted live CD based on Fedora core 5 for the kiosk machines in our company.. Many thanks.

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