On 27 November 2011 10:36, Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com wrote:
Yes laws allow one to deny disclosure of SSN. But law also allows denial of service in such case.
No, we debated this yesterday. It is illegal to deny service if a consumer refuses to provide an SSN, provided there is no federal statute that mandates the use of an SSN. The provider can ask for additional deposits to reduce his risk, that's all.
So, you go to rent an apartment, company that owns the building would ask for SSN to run a credit and bankruptcy check. You are within your right to deny giving out SSN, And company is also within their right to deny apartment to you.
Don't lie outright, to prove your point. The company that owns the building is NOT within its right to deny apartment to you, just because you refused to provide an SSN. See:
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-supreme-court/1063727.html
I have rented in three states (NY/NJ/CA) and every state's model agreement clearly states this fact.
Living in the US does not automatically confer upon you a perfect knowledge of the legal system out there.
Similarly, employer would not give you a job unless he can report earnings to IRS.
True, but they don't need the SSN. There are several other ID numbers they can use in lieu of SSNs (for specific classes of employees).
Binand