On 05-Jul-06, at 1:47 AM, Devdas Bhagat wrote:

On 05/07/06 01:07 +0530, Steven Joseph wrote:

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Hi ,

I'd be more than happy to volunteer for this, I have not used these tools but i have sound knowledge of the ubuntu system.

Please stop top posting. I suspect though that someone with more experience in those tools would be better in this particular case. A Scribus/GIMP expert would be more suited to answer questions than an Ubuntu expert (since this is going to be a rather distro independent issue).

and although i hate to rain on the parade, it is going to be a hell of a job convincing journalists that gimp, inkscape, scribus are the 'equivalent' of quark express, corel draw, adobe illustrator ...

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 06:09:25AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

On 05-Jul-06, at 1:47 AM, Devdas Bhagat wrote:

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On 05/07/06 01:07 +0530, Steven Joseph wrote:

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Hi ,

I'd be more than happy to volunteer for this, I have not used these tools but i have sound knowledge of the ubuntu system.

Please stop top posting. I suspect though that someone with more experience in those tools would be better in this particular case. A Scribus/GIMP expert would be more suited to answer questions than an Ubuntu expert (since this is going to be a rather distro independent issue).

and although i hate to rain on the parade, it is going to be a hell of a job convincing journalists that gimp, inkscape, scribus are the 'equivalent' of quark express, corel draw, adobe illustrator ...

I have done such demonstrations. I never try to tell them that gimp, inkscape are equivalent of the stuff mentioned above. How can a free software application be ever treated equavalent to a propreiary software. The entire perception is misleading if we turn the discussion like this. This will only make the journalists continue to look at FSM as a technological alternative.

So the objective of this event should not be merely be about technology per se.

At the same time, let me warn that GIMP is not for print industry. But it can be used profitably for newspaper since the resolutions required are not very high. However, currently since newspapers are increasingly graphics oriented they should move to cinepaint, which works exactly like GIMP but has color separations, and support for high resolution support needed for print industry.

As far as inkscape is concerned, it beats illustrator and corel draw in producing SVG images a W3C standard for 2D vector graphics. Though it also has features, and is best GUI I have seen in any free software application so far, while talking about them we should never forget to tell them that its use is recommended since it produces an ecoding of the document in an open standard so that it works in all applications. PDF support in inkscape is also very impressive.

i dont have sufficient expertise to comment on scribus.

Nagarjuna

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 05:02:48PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

On 07-Jul-06, at 9:59 AM, Nagarjuna G. wrote:

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increasingly graphics oriented they should move to cinepaint, which works exactly like GIMP but has color separations, and support for high resolution support needed for print industry.

sounds good, must investigate

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As far as inkscape is concerned, it beats illustrator and corel draw in producing SVG images a W3C standard for 2D vector graphics. Though it also has features, and is best GUI I have seen in any free software application so far, while talking about them we should never forget to tell them that its use is recommended since it produces an ecoding of the document in an open standard so that it works in all applications. PDF support in inkscape is also very impressive.

cool, i can just see myself bidding for a job against adobe illustrator and corel draw artists with an inkscape presentation and explaining to hime that he should accept my bid because it produces <quote>SVG images a W3C standard for 2D vector graphics</quote>. It is this kind of approach that sets our movement back so much.

You are mistaken. Govt of any place in the world has no defense, not any company for not complying with open standards. this is working very well. Do use this whenever you try to lobby or advocate for FOSS.

i spent my morning arguing with a govt committee - all other things equal, they should choose the foss alternative. They refused - level playing field is all we can give you, they said. Fair enough, on a level playing field we are winning on so many levels, servers, programming tools, etc etc. Print, design, publication and some other fields we cant yet win on a level playing field. So lets accept it for the time being and work to improve rather than try to sell 'political correctness'. We saw where political correctness led the country in the second half of the last century.

I have no idea what you are indicating. it is of no use talking without being specific.

Nagarjuna

On Wednesday 05 July 2006 01:47, Devdas Bhagat wrote:

On 05/07/06 01:07 +0530, Steven Joseph wrote:

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Hi ,

I'd be more than happy to volunteer for this, I have not used these tools but i have sound knowledge of the ubuntu system.

Please stop top posting. I suspect though that someone with more

sorry bout that

experience in those tools would be better in this particular case. A Scribus/GIMP expert would be more suited to answer questions than an Ubuntu expert (since this is going to be a rather distro independent issue).

I suspected the same ... in any ways an opportunity to help in migration to linux is some thing that i'm all enthu about ... I've been pushing ubuntu to some of my colleagues ... got a bunch of cds left to distribute.

Steven

-- Life would have been a lot easier if we could look at the source code.

Hmm... techies who are into art and type setting........... A rare breed, i must say.