On Saturday 25 June 2005 13:14, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
hows this: http://www.indiainfoline.com/news/news.asp?dat=61173
Stupid - to put it mildly. More correctly put you would not expect the financier pay to have his pants pulled off in public. Particulary one as disease ridden as m$.
The first big hole is that the survey questionaire is not available. Worse the research firm Meta Group Inc who audited the survey instrument and associated cost model, are a known microsoft shill.
Threat and vulnerability analysis without source code is as scientific as the daily fortune column in midday - ridiculous to say the least.
So please do not post links to a study of M$ vs rest of the world. They are always funded my some M$ shill and the results are full of shit. If somone thinks that his M$ systems are cheap all the best to him while the penguins circle to pick off his business.
In fact i have stopped talking price with customers (i collect the M$ tax u see) and focus on a zillion other things which shreds everything that billy baba and 2000xp chors can throw.
rgds jtd
--- sherlock@vsnl.com wrote:
In fact i have stopped talking price with customers (i collect the M$ tax u see) and focus on a zillion other things which shreds everything that billy baba and 2000xp chors can throw.
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No worries JTD, as long as we have IIM babus running commercial organisations like those at redmond such reports are bound to surface.
Infact, the report did give me a lot to ponder. You know terence, managing networks with 500-1000 nodes with MS can be a real nightmare especially when patching the machines on a daily basis is more of a norm. MS has an architecture in place seamless across distributions to push these patches across the entire enterprise. How much of this works....you know better.
With FLOSS in a network as big as the one consisting of 1000+ nodes you will realise that management-patch scheduling-upgrades are the most significant part of the TCO. This in effect drives the need to acquire systems that the average "techie" can deal with.
Mind my word *average techie* jtd. Do remember not all of em are as capable as you to have potato running on their desktops. Some of them are simple human beings with a diploma in computing from some NIIT trying to survive through a day job by supporting IT infra at such setups.
Having worked with numerous distros i still feel the need for ubiquitous patch management mechanisms is a must. Redhat with RHN comes close and but again isnt seamless across distros, dpkg and yum are other options which need to still scale to enterprise requirements. Thus until this problem continues to prevail we shall have organisations moving away from a total migration to FLOSS.
Trevor
rgds jtd
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On 26/06/05 02:48 -0700, Trevor Warren wrote:
--- sherlock@vsnl.com wrote:
In fact i have stopped talking price with customers (i collect the M$ tax u see) and focus on a zillion other things which shreds everything that billy baba and 2000xp chors can throw.
[snip]
No worries JTD, as long as we have IIM babus running commercial organisations like those at redmond such reports are bound to surface.
Infact, the report did give me a lot to ponder. You know terence, managing networks with 500-1000 nodes with MS can be a real nightmare especially when patching the machines on a daily basis is more of a norm. MS has an architecture in place seamless across distributions to push these patches across the entire enterprise. How much of this works....you know better.
With FLOSS in a network as big as the one consisting of 1000+ nodes you will realise that management-patch scheduling-upgrades are the most significant part of the TCO. This in effect drives the need to acquire systems that the average "techie" can deal with.
Solved problems. http://www.infrastructures.org/ http://www.google.com/search?q=radmind+download http://www.google.com/search?q=cfengine+download
Mind my word *average techie* jtd. Do remember not all of em are as capable as you to have potato running on their desktops. Some of them are simple human beings with a diploma in computing from some NIIT trying to survive through a day job by supporting IT infra at such setups.
You only need a few good people. Leave the average techie for desktop support.
Having worked with numerous distros i still feel the need for ubiquitous patch management mechanisms is a must. Redhat with RHN comes close and but again isnt seamless across distros, dpkg and yum are other
So why do you have multiple distros in the same organisation? Standardise!
Devdas Bhagat
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