Linuxers April 2003

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Re:Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: PHP help needed
by Dot Dot 10 Jun '03

10 Jun '03

>It's one thing to ask for help configuring PHP on your box. But >this was just asking for how to program in PHP/JavaScript. It's >like asking beginner C questions on this list just because GCC >is free software. I will suggest that we stop trying to moderate every user and ask for a perfect mailing list with all well behaved members. >> request - plz tone down your replies. We don't want to be >> percieved as unfriendly to newbies/question posers. > >I think my reply was very friendly, by ilug-bom standards :) Vinayak, I will classify some of your replies as very unfriendly too. If you guys want to flame each other, why don't you do it sending a personal mail. Don't ask me why I'm not sending personal mails. :) Lets get back to Linuxing. __________________________________________________________ Get Your Electric Email at http://webmail.electricmela.com

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[Fwd: [ilug-goa] GNU/Linux positions in Pune][OT]
by Trevor Warren 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Frederick Noronha (FN) <fred(a)bytesforall.org> To: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [ilug-goa] GNU/Linux positions in Pune Date: 30 Apr 2003 03:24:20 +0530 Message: 3 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:49:47 +0530 (IST) From: <careers(a)acclivitous.com> To: <plug-mail(a)plug.org.in> Subject: [PLUG] [COMMERCIAL] Positions for Linux Experts in Pune Reply-To: plug-mail(a)plug.org.in Hi, We have the following positions open with one of our MNC clients in Pune. If match the profile and are interested, please email your detailed resume to careers(a)acclivitous.com. Please mention the post applied for in the subject. ** Senior Software Engineer - Linux: - At least 4 years of experience in programming in Linux/Unix environment: C/C++, Perl, Python, Shell Scripting, XML - Knowledge of development tools and networking - Good Communication Skills - Ability to work in fast paced environment - Experience working with remote development teams is a plus - Commitment to delivering high quality software on time. - Familiar with full life cycle of software development ** Software Engineer- Linux: 2-3 years development experience on Linux/Unix. Sound knowledge of Unix Operating System internals and good trouble-shooting skills. Programming experience in languages like C, C++ and sound knowledge of Object Oriented concepts is a must. Programming Experience with Internet technologies like DNS, Mail, web servers, web-hosting, FTP, and SSH are highly desirable. Knowledge of Redhat packagers a must. ** Build and Release Engineer: The ideal candidate will have solid background in Windows and Linux build environment, good experience with CVS and the ability to implement an automated process to build and release. Nice to have skills include Perl, PHP, VB, bash and knowledge of .NET technologies. The candidate will be responsible for ensuring quality and delivery of builds. Work closely with Development Team and coordinate/drive the build development/release process. - Keep abreast of the build process and associated changes on an ongoing basis. - Introduce ongoing improvements/automation in the release process. - Troubleshoot build errors and maintain release matrix. ** Systems Engineers (Linux) for customer advocacy group: - Strong knowledge in Linux. - Extensive knowledge of Apache, BIND, Sendmail, POP3/IMAP4 is mandatory - Knowledge of Web hosting business - Extensive hands-on experience (2 years Linux Sys Admin) - Windows 2000 Server experience is desirable - Strong knowledge in network and systems architecture, firewalls and Internet technology - Should know vi or equivalent editor (to edit documents in a UNIX environment) - Ability to grasp technical information quickly with proven track record in logical problem solving techniques to troubleshoot system problems independently - Superior customer service skills with excellent verbal and written skills Thanks, Rinku Chopra --__--__-- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/xaxhjB/hdqFAA/bW3JAA/0XFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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[Announce] Ayttm - 0.3.0
by Philip S Tellis 08 May '03

08 May '03

Ayttm 0.3.0 has been released. http://ayttm.sourceforge.net/ Ayttm is a Universal Instant Messenger, and is the heir to the everybuddy project. The minor version number bump is so because we feel there are enough new features since 0.2.x to motivate it, and to make people read the release notes. Things have changed and we'll get bugreports if no one reads it. Modules path has changed, it is now $PREFIX/lib/ayttm instead of $PREFIX/share/ayttm/modules, so if upgrading, you have to change your ~/.ayttm/prefs file by replacing "share/ayttm/modules" by "lib/ayttm". You'll find a perl script on the download page that does the job. * Bugfixes - Segfaults fixed ;-) - MSN: Login in predefined state now works - Compilation warnings - Plug memory leaks - gdk_pixbuf optional - Jabber fixes - Yahoo chatroom (bad name displaying) fix - --url command-line option (lets modules handle URLs, ie "aim:goim?screenname=colinleroy") - TOC modules now try ports 80 and 9898 (should stop problems from places with transparent http proxies) - Fix useless Error popup at logout (with Jabber) - Handle TOC Chatrooms name errors - Proxy support fixed (every type of proxy should work with or without auth) - Modules path changed to comply with FHS (read README!) * New features - "Actions": lets you run arbitrary commands with your conversation logs (print, mail, view in browser,...) - New away messages system (allows deletion) - Login on startup now on a per-account basis - Asynchronous connection for jabber - Activity bars for Yahoo,MSN,AIM,ICQ,Jabber (allows cancellation of hung connections) - Yahoo: non-blocking connects for every connection - Shiny new preferences window You can download it (source and rpms) from http://ayttm.sf.net/files.shtml -- Avoid strange women and temporary variables.

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networking problem
by Amit Redij 05 May '03

05 May '03

Hi all, I have following setup. One Linux server (192.168.0) catering to various windoze/Linux clients. DHCP is handling the leases. I want to find out which all machines are in the network(alive) at any given point of time. Also, I may have another sub-network(s) and a router. Is there a reliable and efficient way to get "all" those machines (IP) that are there? Please help. Thanks in advance. -- regards, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Amit A. Redij In a world without fences and walls, who needs Windows and Gates?

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PCQuest Linux 8.0
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 01 May '03

01 May '03

Hi, Yesterday I tried installing PCQuest Linux 8.0 on my new Athlon XP 1800Mhz system, with A7N266VM Asus mobo.(Thanks to some of you who advised me to use Athlon over Celeron!). Now... When the installer(anaconda) starts, it probes the hardware..it displays "unable to probe monitor" & after emitting a couple of lines the system hangs. Using the options "Linux noprobe" or linux skipddc" as suggested doesnt skip the probe, & the same problem repeats again. I also trie the "linux rescue" option . Some of you have installed the PCQuest Linux 8.0. Maybe you can advise me... Thanks, --Royce.

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NEWS: College Linux, what's it all about? (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 01 May '03

01 May '03

Anyone knows links for Manoj Apte and Lalita Godbole (see below)? FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- URL : http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3305 [16]Read articles with similar Topic Interview with Professor David Costa of CollegeLinux By [17]Eugenia Loli-Queru - Posted on 2003-04-17 18:28:52 There is a Linux distro for any possible need and [18]CollegeLinux is geared towards students and schools! Today, we interview Prof. David Costa of the Robert Kennedy College in Del�mont, Switzerland regarding their initiative behind CollegeLinux. 1. What was the initial need to create a distribution specifically for students? Prof. David Costa: This is actually a great question. I read some students saying "do we really need this ? We have slackware, debian redhat and many others which are perfect for students!" Actually this is a myth. Many of the students I know never heard of linux. I am talking about students in management, law or any other non computing subject. Initally we used in our computer lab Mandrake 8.1 and to my delusion many of the things i would and our student would expect where no there. Flash and java plugins to name the browsing related ones. Network sharing with Windows computers to name another major concern. Not talking about movie player and excellent multimedia support. After all student life it's not just about assignments! 2. What kind of applications your distro includes that are particular to students? Prof. David Costa: We added the complete Openoffice suite, browsers plug-in's all preconfigured, network sharing pre configured, windows emulator, many financial calculators/math tools, project management suite and practically everything you need for an easy move from windows to linux without having to give up on the convenience we are used to. Every students on CollegeLinux should not regret his choice. Before the release we tested CollegeLinux with real students. They where expected not to need windows for the testing period, meaning the should have managed to do everything they did with windows on collegelinux. They did and, they are still using collegelinux. 3. Do you have any plans on 'feeding' your students in your College with laptops that run your distro? Some colleges and schools in USA have just started this initiative (reference [19]here). Prof. David Costa: We are mainly a career college, our student population is diverse but we are mainly dealing with adults. It's easier to change your habits when you are young, so while I am convinced that linux is the best enviroment to learn I do respect the views of students and faculty members who might disagree with me. What we will do is starting some classed on a dual major diploma programme: management and linux computing. Then our distribution will be the base of the computing component. Another think I don't like is try to push a distribution or OS with the pre-installed "trick". Afterall the installation is part of the linux learning process. I learned a lot during failed installs, you can tell ;) 4. Who is actually doing the work on packaging and putting the distro together? How big is the dev team? Prof. David Costa: We are currently 4. The lead developer is Mihai Secasiu, other developers are Manoj Apte and Lalita Godbole. Todd Kulesza (from dropline system, the father of dropline gnome) might soon join us for the integration of dropline gnome and a collegelinux robot/auto upated in the next release scheduled for May. I know it's a small team but we do pay (not that well but) our developers. This a not for profit project fully sponsored by the Robert Kennedy College. Many linux developers are working free of charge (e.g. Debian) but with a small paid team we can better control the development and its timelines. 5. What are your future plans for College Linux? Prof. David Costa: The next release will bring some interesting surprises. While dropline gnome is already working fine on CollegeLinux 2.1. The Jedi, we are trying to go a mile further with a perfect integration which will allow our users to keep their packages constantly updated. In this way students will benefit from a stable and complete OS constantly updated with a click. We are also fixing some of the problems with the installer (which was created from scratch) and we take into serious account all the installation problems reported by collegelinux users. We will add more plugins (RealMedia) to the browsers and must important we will constanctly updated our distribution to allow its installation in a great number of configurations. 6. Why Slackware was picked as the "mother" distribution for College Linux, instead of say... Debian or Red Hat? Prof. David Costa: First of all Slackware is a great learning enviroment.Its base allows the more experienced users to customize the system as the want. Red Hat and Debian are excellent distributions but we didn't want to bring another clone to the world. I have seen many of the over 50 Red Hat based distributions. They all use the same installer and system..so I ask myself, why should someone get a clone of the original and not the real Red Hat ? Some of these distribution are certainly justified (e.g. RedFlag linux with the Chinese language support) but many others are just personal experiments. Slackware is one of the oldest distribution well know for its stability and the simple but great package system.We didn't want to bring the rpm dependencies nightmare to our users. Slackware It's probably one the best distributions, the only thing missing (and attention, not because they didn't care about it..is just the way it is to leave more feedom to the experienced user) is a better configured desktop tailored version. 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Humour "Is Your Son A computer Hacker"
by pranav joshi 01 May '03

01 May '03

This article had been on adequacy.org a while ago.. it's abt this parent who thinks his son might be a hacker.. Funny Stuff LINK http://www.chasten.org/hacker.htm _________________________________________________________________ Find a partner. For life. http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=hmlql Meet(a)Shaadi.com

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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] PCQuest Linux 8.0
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 01 May '03

01 May '03

Hi, When I tried Knoppix 3.1, even with the boot option 'knoppix lang=us" I always get the German installation messages(i.e after "knx-hdinstall"). How to get it to display in english? ----- Original Message ----- > > > Get Knoppix 3.1 dear! > > regards, > > ah

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Re: hey fn....u not replying..??
by Trevor Warren 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Hello Dr. Bhat, We can surely do with some help from rico. Let us know about the same. Also, due to certain issues we may have to prepone-postpone the workshop to 3-4th of this month or 17-18 of this month. <ALL> All of you please lemme know your thoughts on the same.</ALL> Have a nice day all. Trevor On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 15:07, Gurunandan R. Bhat wrote: > Dear Trevor, > > Sure! I am still interested in the Hubli idea. The plan would be to > spend three consecutive days every month with a definite agenda like a > mini course or something that could be useful. I'll let Rico do the org > bit. > > Warm regards > Gurunandan > . > > > > On Mon, 2003-04-28 at 13:43, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Thanks for the same fn. > > > > Trevor > > > > > > On Mon, 2003-04-28 at 13:36, Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote: > > > Copying your note to Prof Bhat... FN > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Fred, > > > > good-day. > > > > > > > > I did get your reply on the same. But i am still hoping that you can > > > > help rope in at least 3 speakers from goa. > > > > > > > > If you would remember the enthusiasm displayed by Prof. Bhat for > > > > taking up a couple of days off every month towards guiding the students > > > > at hubli. > > > > > > > > Fred.......i did get your earlier reply. Thanks for the same and i am > > > > hopeful that we can pull it off. I may not have a complete contigent > > > > from goa but 3 speakers isn't asking too much...right??. > > > > > > > > Also...if i am offending you then please lemme know and i will back of > > > > fn...;) > > > > > > > > Take care and have a great day fn. > > > > > > > > Trevor -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: hey fn....u not replying..??
by Trevor Warren 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

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Linuxers April 2003