Linuxers January 2004

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devfs help..!
by Ankur is here in ur inbox...... 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

hello everybody, i am a newbe.so Can anyone tell me, Is devfs b= uilt in linux kernel(devfs enabled kernel) which comes with red hat 9.0. an= d if it is not then plz do tell me where can i get it and how can i compile it into the kernel and use the new compiled kernel.. i am using red = hat linux 9.0 on amd athlon 2000+ with 256 MB RAM..i think so that this muc= h data will be sufficent for the above stated problem... thank's to a= ll in advance for landing their helping hand to me. sincerely.. = Ankur Ankur [1] [ads.rediff.=] References 1. 3D"http:/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RE: Why does Linux access the HDD so much?
by linuxdev 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

[snip] Dont put an end to this thread. Perhaps someone can summarise the points you have made. They are very valid. a. Increase Swap b. Stop services that are not required c. Get More RAM (since lower ram = more swap file usage = slower / inefficient performance) d. Recomend use of less resource hungary software (galeon instead of mozilla) e. Do not fully shut off software that you are going to use again and again (eg, minimise mozilla instead of closing it when you finish looking at a webpage) An additional point I guess we can also make here is that in MS Windows XP also, most software takes time to open. Outlook express takes more than 20 seconds (and massive HDD Access) to open and MSOffice XP is much worse. We can not compare a PC running Win98 to RedHat9. That comparison does not make sense. [snip] Talking of the preloader of mozilla in Windows, can we have a *generalized* pre-loader in linux ?? I would say it wouldn't be too difficult to write a daemon that preloads stuff and keeps general statistics as to which executable/library is used the most. This would increase the booting time by little but the net result should be quite surprising in my opinion. IE starts so fast in windows is because just about everything that it requires is preloaded when windows boots. On the other hand most of the stuff that mozilla needs is loaded when it is started. Taking up the proj. anyone ? I might do so, but let me know if it would really make a difference. C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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Adding cvs repositories to existing cvs server
by milind dhoke 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Hi all, I had a cvs server having single repository,but now i want to add more repositories in existing cvs server. what exactly needed to be done, i don't know.If somebody having idea regurding this a great welcome. Regards Milind Dhoke

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any idea about the next meeting
by Trevor Warren 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Morning Folks, It would be great towards meeting sometime soon towards discusing some activities that we could perform for the current year. I know its very easy for me to speak, but lets decide on some conrete events and take them ahead with specific focus on FLOSS/Gnu-Linux events. Trevor -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Gnu/Linux, Its all about Choice __ /~\ | \) / trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Need a consultant, Call 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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RE: Why does Linux access the HDD so much?
by I R Veejay 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

q u a s i wrote : >What is the distribution ? RHL9 >What machine config ? More importantly do >you have anything running in the background ? Excessive logging ? You >have some inefficient program running in the background which updates >a few KB file on disk every few seconds ? There could be many >reasons. Your problem seems not to be a generally observed phenomenon. P4(a)1.6GHz, 128MB RAM, 40GB HDD, 256mb Swap, default windowmanager, KDE as desktop. The installation is the default desktop installation, with no customisation whatsoever. This system is a test system, that i installed to test this very fact. I have seen this happen on every linux box that I have come across, *regardless of m/c configuration*. One of my buddies commented to me once, and i quote - "The main reason why Linux is not very popular in cybercafe's is because apps like browsers & office applications take too long to open." And hence this discussion thread. >Try not running XWindows and then see if the disk io continues. If you have read my first post regarding this matter i specifically mentioned that this is obsererved *only in GUI mode*. cheerio veejay _________________________________________________________________ Play the prediction game on MEZ. Win Sehwags autographed T-shirts. http://go.msnserver.com/IN/41491.asp Predict and win on myenjoyzone.com.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RE: Why does Linux access the HDD so much? [trevor.w@pvision.biz]
by Trevor Warren 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

On 2004.01.24 16:57 Trevor Warren wrote: Hey Dinesh...;) On 2004.01.24 16:43 Dinesh Shah wrote: > Hi Trevor, > s a bloat, a feature rich bloat...;) > > Well... Something is better then nothing... Still better then other > bloatware. :-) > [snip] An apt question for the mozilla mailing list..eh..;) Trevor > With regards, > -- > --Dinesh Shah :-) > <Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com> > Shah Micro System > +91-98213-11906 > +91-22-56919423 > > -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Gnu/Linux, Its all about Choice __ /~\ | \) / trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Need a consultant, Call 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/ -- ( >- -< ) /~\ __ Gnu/Linux, Its all about Choice __ /~\ | \) / trevor.w(a)pvision.biz \ (/ | |_|_ \ Need a consultant, Call 9820349221 / _|_| \____________________________________/

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X configuration
by rahul revo 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

hi, i am running rh9.0 in runlevel 5. kde is the default window manager. many times during boot, the graphics are not loaded. the services turn on, after which the text prompt is shown. the next step is to get a graphical login. but often the graphics get scrambled. i get a few vertical lines flashing like in X configuration and then need to reboot. but mostly gui mode starts up without any errors with proper colors, mouse etc. why does X not load sometimes? i have an onboard intel extreme graphics card on an intel 845 gbv motherboard. as i mentioned earlier mostly X and kde run smoothly. thanks rahul

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garnome problem !
by Mrudul Shah 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

hello , my configuring GARNOME ...i faced this problem ! make paranoid-install make[1]: Entering directo= ry `/root/downloads/garnome/garnome-0.29.1/desktop/acme' [==== == NOW BUILDING: acme-2.4.2 === ==] ==> Grabbing download/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2 = ==> Trying file///root/downloads/GNOME2.4/acme -2.4.2.tar.bz2 make[2]: Entering directory `/root/downloads/garnome/g arnome-0.29.1/desktop/acme' make[2]: *** [file///root/downloads/GNOME= 2.4/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/dow nloads/garnome/garnome-0.29.1/desktop/acme' &nbs= p; ==> Trying http//ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/acme/2.4/acme-2.= 4.2.tar.bz2 make[2]: Entering directory `/root/downloads/garnome/garn ome-0.29.1/desktop/acme' --20:22:10-- http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/ GNOME/sources/acme/2.4/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2 = => `download/partial/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.= gnome.org... failed: Host not found. make[2]: *** [http//ftp.gnome.or g/pub/GNOME/sources/acme/2.4/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2] Error 1 make[2]: Lea= ving directory `/root/downloads/garnome/garnome-0.29.1/desktop/acme' = *** GAR GAR GAR! Failed to download download/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2! = ; GAR GAR GAR! *** make[1]: *** [download/acme-2.4.2.tar.bz2] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/garnome/garnome-0.29.1/d= esktop/acme' make: *** [paranoid-install] Error 2 = i have all the gnome2.4 tarballs @ /root/download/GNOME2.4/ pls ..help ! thank you. - Mrudul.= [1] [a=] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com=/

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tcp library....
by linuxdev 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

I remember someone asking for a tcp library ... was it Phillip ? Nyways, check this out http://www.laurentconstantin.com/en/netw/netwib/ C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Re : Why does linux access the hhd so much
by xterm 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

> >><victorjulietpapa(a)hotmail.com> > >> > >>I would really like to know why does linux access the >disk so much > >>(in GUI mode) to fire-up even a small application like terminals > >>>windows? What is it that it reads/writes so much? This is > >>irrespective of >m/c configuration. > >> > >>veejay > > > > > > My swap is 4 times the RAM still i also face the same problem... > > (wading in late, excuse) > > What is the distribution ? What machine config ? More importantly do > you have anything running in the background ? Excessive logging ? You > have some inefficient program running in the background which updates > a few KB file on disk every few seconds ? There could be many > reasons. Your problem seems not to be a generally observed phenomenon. man! i am not complaining about the hdd access my system does.... mine is a RHL8.0 on a P3-933 mhz, with 128MB SD RAM, the hard disk also runs at 5400 something RPM... swap alloted is half GB, i've seen hdd access right from the days i had RHL6.0, then 7.1 and now 8.0... I've always chosen to do a full installation off the CDs, just to taste everything that's inside... Agreed i have many services running, I just turn it on to work with it... telnetting into smtp/ftp/telnet servers... I think the people here are comparing the hdd access of M$ windows with gnu/linux... Windows loads all the configuration settings (Registry) into the RAM at startup, whereas gnu/linux apps have to read the config files the first time they start (am just speculating a reason)...also many services report their errors to the root's mailbox... These might be one of the many reasons of unexpected hdd access... Is my justification correct???

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