Linuxers April 2005

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Adding Debian DVD to repository of Ubuntu
by rohit bhute 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

I want to add the Debian DVD to Ubuntu's repository. To that end, I've copied the proper entry from Debian's sources.list to Ubuntu's sources.list. However I need to add some files to Ubuntu's /var/lib/apt/lists. They are the Debian counter parts of the following files :- Ubuntu%204.10%20%5fWarty%20Warthog%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20Binary-1% 20(20041020)_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages Ubuntu%204.10%20%5fWarty%20Warthog%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20Binary-1% 20(20041020)_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Release Ubuntu%204.10%20%5fWarty%20Warthog%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20Binary-1% 20(20041020)_dists_unstable_restricted_binary-i386_Packages Ubuntu%204.10%20%5fWarty%20Warthog%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20Binary-1% 20(20041020)_dists_unstable_restricted_binary-i386_Release I've found them but they are named simply Packages and Release in the main and contrib folders on the DVD. How do I get the details to be filled into the new filenames like the files above? And I probably need to edit /var/lib/apt/cdroms.list file too. At the moment it contains :- CD::1e4d30e8e87d2707e1cb71bd2cd0fa53-2 "Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)"; CD::1e4d30e8e87d2707e1cb71bd2cd0fa53-2::Label "Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)"; Currently, Synaptic doesn't detect the Debian DVD. And lastly, can I set the preferences so that Synaptic will look into Ubuntu's own repository first and then into Debian? Any help or pointers to help will be appreciated. TIA. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://rvbhute.freelinuxhost.com/ Using Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and Linux
by Abhishek Daga 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

> wont close shop - reliance is running it and its a company minting > money. No one is going to close it. > -- > regards >kg Famous last words? Anyways how sure are you that Reliance is running it? I asked a Senior VP at Reliance 2 days ago if reliance had bought tally (since they came out with that phone deal a few months or a year ago) and he replied in the negative. Now Reliance is a big company so it's probable that one dept doesnt know what another is doing and I may be wrong. If anyone from Tally is here on this group, or working in the office across Tally, or a neighbor or girlfriend/boyfriend/muse/"Good friend" of some Tally tech lead is reading this and can grab hold of one of their ever elusive support team members, can you please ask them to come out clearly and say what works and what not with Tally. Saying tally works on linux is not enough apparently. More information would be highly appreciated. System requirements, OS requirements, Arm n Leg requirements. Any more information other than BEST Bus hoardings saying that Tally works on Linux, is definitely warranted. -abhishek -abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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[OT] HDD Cable Problems.
by Rony Bill 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

Dear Friends, I have experience quite a good number of startup/boot problems in computers (M$) of either HDD not being detected during boot or getting detected after a few *minutes* or the comp giving registry errors. The problem in all these cases was the new thin fine wire HDD cable that comes with the motherboards. On replacing this cable with the older normal cable, everything is just fine. What's wrong with these new cables and any other experiences like these? Regards, Rony.

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GRUB failure
by Vickram Crishna 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

Does anyone know how to get around this? I get persistent GRUB failure, Error 15. I have tried several times to reload the GRUB loader, using RH9 disks and also Ubuntu (the latter does not have any way to install GRUB without committing to partitioning), but despite apparent success during the process, it always returns the same error. Query: should I try Lilo? I must have the ability to boot to either OS. -- Vickram

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Tally and GNU/Linux
by Nagarjuna G. 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

I have been seeing that off and on this list keeps talking about Tally and how to run this on GNU/Linux? Tally is not a free software, and I dont see why users should discuss this on this list. On the other hand availability of accounting packages is a big problem and several hackers are addressing this issue, including some of our own list members. We should discuss those issues. This list is not for discussing propreitary software, but free software. In fact we should be discussing the issue of how to boycott the distributions that ship propreitary software and have explicit tieups with such agencies. This clearly shows that these distribution companies do not have any interest other than being in business. BTW, those of you who have some knowledge of this application, can you do some research about how the data is stored in Tally? Is this encoding a standard? Does this application support Export of data to any other standards? What freedom users have? Are the users locked in? etc. Nagarjuna

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally and GNU/Linux
by Abhishek Daga 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

> I have been seeing that off and on this list keeps > talking about Tally and how to run this on GNU/Linux? > Tally is not a free software, and I dont see why users > should discuss this on this list. But in an over dramatized world,it stands for the Antithesis of what open source is about. Just as Micro$oft being the dominant player and applications built around it, have been the focal point of a lot of Open Source Development, so is Tally given it's near monopolistic status in India atleast.? No point discussing how to make something better than say, WidgetAccountant when the something is already out there towering over everyone else. Thats who the comparison has to be with. And given the demographic that uses this kind of an application, i daresay that for all practical purposes, the most widespread therefore is the best? (Yes, ready to be flamed for this statement). > On the other hand availability of accounting packages > is a big problem and several hackers are addressing > this issue, including some of our own list members. We > should discuss those issues. Not only discuss but put all the wheels together and get the cart rolling. Probably someday we can add wings too and get it flying? si? >This clearly shows that these distribution > companies do not have any interest other than being in > business. Which is not a bad thing per se. We all would like to be in Business, but getting them out of business doesnt translate into we being in Business. A business (even of distributing free software) requires a solid product to be in business. Where is that product not only with respect to stability and price, but also features and support (both ongoing and future). EOR -abhi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: tally
by Abhishek Daga 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

--- Navneet Karnani <navneetkarnani(a)gmail.com> wrote: >you don't run the Windows version on linux using wine or any > other emulator. But you could if you were keen enough to get it working correct? Sure there will be lots of legalese, ifs and buts, but once you over those hurdles it should work ok. But the question is without support, would you take the chance of running a critical function such as accounting and considering the primary user demographic, simplicity is the key. (wow, am sounding like the Tally Tag line). But someone raised an interesting question. What if Tally were to shut shop (remember what your mother told you about "never say never"), and given that it's a proprietory Database, sure a lot of people will be bambooed to high heavens. So the bigger question, Whats the alternative? The generic problem statement as I see consists of the following parts: a) Using a database that is not proprietory and tried and tested while being tinkerable..(mysql or postGres) b) An accounting system, maybe a clone of Tally. It's critical that it should be a clone, even if tally is not perfect. Else you'd have a lot of reluctant migrants. c) Platform Independent. I mean truly, without issues. I leave that as a FILL_IN_THE_BLANKS for folks to fight over. d)A strong community dedicated to giving out updates as sooner than Tally can say VATs up. It's nothing against Tally or EX per se, they are doing what they gotta do. But if someone wants to be the Next Microsoft, Surely there is a vacuum in the "open space" waiting to be filled? Instead of asking if anyone is keen to take the initiative, let's say I am taking the intiative. Surely I am not the first one to think about this. But with some commitment and convergence of initiatives, it can be a feasible alternative. Yes, it may take 2 months or 2 yrs.. but at the end of the day, there'll be light?. or maybe that's the end of the tunnel. u decide. rant over... abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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Data Recovery on Reser FS Filesystem
by Amit Karpe 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

Hi all , I need help and suggestions from you experts and Gurus . While reinstalling SuSE 9.2 it hv overwritten on my previous SuSE 9.2 Linux Partition . I did not find any Reser FS Data Recovery tools . I want to know is thee any way to recover data from that partition ? Is there any software which may help me ? Is there any professional solution provider in Pune ? I repeat my problem in detail . I allready had installed SuSE 9.2 on /dev/hda2 . And I had free ( empty ) partition on /dev/hda3 . But SuSe 9.2 select by default /dev/hda2 as root partition for installation . In hurry I did not notice that . After first boot I notice that I had lost my partition . Because of this my /dev/hda2 partition got formated . Now I had lost lots of important data . But I hope that I have not overwritten entire partition . i.e As there was 7Gb of usefull data on /dev/hda2 . And I only installed or overwritten 800Mb of data on that partition while installation . So I hope that my /home/amit directory may get recover . Please help me . You can think of Projects and 300-400Mb of Mails means lots of Important Data . Amit.

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Tally and Linux
by Nitin Putcha 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

Following off the Tally website: http://www.tallysolutions.com/newtally3.shtml Tally 7.2 is now Linux certified Tally, the leading provider of accounting and inventory business application solutions, has announced their partnership with Red Hat, the world’s leading provider of open source to the enterprise. Tally 7.2 will now be made available also on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux platform. Linux is less vulnerable to viruses. The SME segment an now benefit from the advantages of Linux - performance, security and value on the desktop. The objective of this partnership is to provide the growing SME market a secure, stable and a cost effective alternative for their computing needs. Bharat Goenka, MD of Tally Solutions, said: “We see this as one of our first steps in our initiative to provide a PC with low cost of ownership. With our commitment to power of simplicity, we now also embark on the power of Flexibility to the users of Tally, in their choice of operating systems” Nitin Putcha ITM -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Data Recovery on Reser FS Filesystem
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 12 Apr '05

12 Apr '05

On Tuesday 12 April 2005 06:47, Amit Karpe wrote: > Hi all , > I need help and suggestions from you experts and Gurus > . While reinstalling SuSE 9.2 it hv overwritten on my previous SuSE > 9.2 Linux Partition . > I did not find any Reser FS Data Recovery tools . reiserfsprogs package.I should already be onyour install. > I want to know is thee any way to recover data from that partition unlikely. > ? Is there any software which may help me ? reiserfsprogs > Is there any professional solution provider in Pune ? Unlikely > > I repeat my problem in detail . > I allready had installed SuSE 9.2 on /dev/hda2 . > And I had free ( empty ) partition on /dev/hda3 . > But SuSe 9.2 select by default /dev/hda2 as root partition for > installation . In hurry I did not notice that . > After first boot I notice that I had lost my partition . > Because of this my /dev/hda2 partition got formated . > Now I had lost lots of important data . > But I hope that I have not overwritten entire partition . > i.e As there was 7Gb of usefull data on /dev/hda2 . > And I only installed or overwritten 800Mb of data on that partition > while installation . So I hope that my /home/amit directory may > get recover . That is why you keep a seperate /home partition. > > Please help me . this link might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/197 rgds jtd

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