Linuxers June 2005

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] linux is costly!
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

On Saturday 25 June 2005 15:24, Rony Bill wrote: > Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > hows this: > > http://www.indiainfoline.com/news/news.asp?dat=61173 > > This may be a dumb question :) but why does linux need to be > patched??? We select a distro based on its success reports and it > is anyway configured to be secure. > > It should not be a problem for free distros to add automatic > updaters in their software to update just like microsoft's updates. Every piece of software suffers from some vulnerability or bug. These may allow the system to be ow3nd by some cracker or reduce the performance of the system. Hence systems need to be patched. Apart from the above improvements in the software also necessitate patches / upgrades. The cost of patching is not the price of the patch but the system downtime and manpower costs. Most distros do have autoupdates. In any case it is easy to setup a cron job to do updates. But in large systems you dont want to do auto anything because large number of other mission critical appps are running and patching one part may cause problems in another. M$ takes the cake for this. So you download the patch check what the heck it is patching in the first place. Decide if it is worthy enough before shoving it up your system. rgds jtd

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Has anyone compared Visual Basic/COM programming withequivalents in the Linux world ?
by Anand, M.R. (GE Energy) 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Hey Sriram, I work on COM too but its not with VB, we use VC. I was looking for a COM eqivalent in linux and CORBA is the closest u can get. I dunno of any ide that helps with CORBA development, besides i think ppl have lost interest in it. Do let me know if u find anything. Anand. -----Original Message----- From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-bounces@mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of Sriram N Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 9:07 PM To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Has anyone compared Visual Basic/COM programming withequivalents in the Linux world ? Hi all: I'm an Eclipse platform developer, and I also program in Visual Basic 6 using COM style interface driven development. (Really, I'm a frameworks developer.) Thinking in objects has caused me to shun the conventional data driven development that's typical in Visual Basic 6. My work is MVC based and I've been designing COM components and reusable user interfaces in Visual Basic 6 when required. My questions: 1. Are there other such programmers on this list ? 2. Could any of the programmers on the list tell me if GNOME/KDE programming has an equivalent of Visual Basic so far as a development environment for writing class code is concerned ? I know of the Gnome-Java bindings and of libgnome, but I was just curious to know the general programming trends and preferences of the list members. Also, I know that I can google out this information, and perhaps play with Glade , etc, but I'm more interested in meeting other programmers such as myself. -- Sriram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Inquiry about training institutes regarding Linux(Manoj Bohara)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

On Friday 24 June 2005 20:48, Nadeem M. Khan wrote: > But joining a course which > requires extensive hardware (routers, switches) like CCNA is > probably justified. IMO no. All they teach you is syntax for their bash shell. You will learn far more about networking by using a linux box as a router. Look at the qos and queing facilities in linux. Ask any CCNA to setup two queues with specialised qos parameters on a cisco router and see. rgds jtd

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Inquiry about training institutes regarding Linux (Manoj Bohara)
by Manoj Bohara 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Dear Members, My name is Manoj Bohara. Friends i needed some information regarding linux OS courses . I am deeply intrested in linux system programming field . If anybody knows of any institute in Mumbai which gives the right training and project to work on , i request to him/her to pass this information to me , it will be go great help to me since i am not aware of any institute in Mumbai . Also i needed guidance on how should i go about it . Is it necessary C/C++ in depth to learn such Linux subjects . Thanks in anticipation Best Regards Manoj Bohara --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Inquiry about training institutes regarding Linux(Manoj Bohara)
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

On Friday 24 June 2005 08:22, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > Most of the guys who > propagate this 'learn on your own' crap are guys who have 3-5 years > of formal education in computers, on which basis they are now > capable, to a certain extent, of learning on their own. incidently, > on a personal note heard tell you were going for german classes - > how come you didnt learn german on your own (I did). And 3~5 yrs it does take to learn - in or outside a formal institution. The difference is that inside you will view the world thru the prof's blinkers - and most of those are very colored. IMO learning outside is far better, inspite of the hurdles and occassional hot reception to (ahem) dumb questions. > I would > suggest that unhelpful replies like this be avoided. If a guy asks > for info about courses available, either give the info or refrain > from adding to the noise on the list. The op's (non) question itself shows that the person has probably never even installed linux on his machine leave alone written a line of code for anything at all. It his duty to first aquaint himself with the basics before diving into the deep end. And besides the hot answers there were cool ones too. Kind of nice balance. rgds jtd

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 38
by bhalla.v.k. 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: >Part1.2 > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > 1. RE: User name and password at the booting --how tooverride? (VKB) This is regarding that longish message that got attached with the mail sent through an intranet server. I really do not know what kind of algoritham or to prevent spasam mails the sys admin sent it with my mail. My query remains. Regards. b.v.kumar ----------- Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressed individual or entity. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. It must not be printed, read, copied, disclosed, forwarded, distributed or used (in whatsoever manner) by any person other than the addressee. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited and may constitute unlawful act and can possibly attract legal action. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. If you have received this message in error, you should destroy this message and may please notify the sender by e-mail. Thank you. -----------

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ILUG-BOM Wiki
by Anand, M.R. (GE Energy) 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Hey Anurag, r we getting the wiki ?? Anand.

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Has anyone compared Visual Basic/COM programming with equivalents in the Linux world ?
by Sriram N 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hi all: I'm an Eclipse platform developer, and I also program in Visual Basic 6 using COM style interface driven development. (Really, I'm a frameworks developer.) Thinking in objects has caused me to shun the conventional data driven development that's typical in Visual Basic 6. My work is MVC based and I've been designing COM components and reusable user interfaces in Visual Basic 6 when required. My questions: 1. Are there other such programmers on this list ? 2. Could any of the programmers on the list tell me if GNOME/KDE programming has an equivalent of Visual Basic so far as a development environment for writing class code is concerned ? I know of the Gnome-Java bindings and of libgnome, but I was just curious to know the general programming trends and preferences of the list members. Also, I know that I can google out this information, and perhaps play with Glade , etc, but I'm more interested in meeting other programmers such as myself. -- Sriram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Inquiry about training institutes regarding Linux
by Venkatesh Hariharan 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

For those interested in Red Hat's training programs, the following links will be useful: http://www.in.redhat.com/training/rhce/ A list of Red Hat training centers is available at: http://www.in.redhat.com/training/service/locations.php3 Venky

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upgrading kernel patch
by Karia Amit 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hi all, I have solaris 9 with kernel Generic_112233-11 patch i want to enable ssh with ftp in this server ,please guide me as in how should i make kernel compatible so that i can enable ssh with ftp , Also tell me the same procedure in linux would be a great help..

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