Linuxers May 2006

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[OT] volunteers for new collaboration project
by Rohit V. Bhute 22 May '06

22 May '06

Please take a look at http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Main_Page This is a nascent project attempting to provide a collaborative platform for (but not limited to) students attempting software projects as part of their academic activities. The platform is not limited to academic projects or even just software. In fact, the concept is barely "out of the brain and onto the web page", to speak of. I request you all to take a look at the project wiki and signup to participate in the discussion. To give you a hint of the brainstorming progress, these are the (so far) two pages with some ideas. http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Discuss:Project_Name http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Discuss:Content Activity is low as MU engineering exams are in progress. But others can chip in. Thanks. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://rvbhute.freelinuxhost.com/wordpress

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[OT] volunteers for new collaboration project
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 22 May '06

22 May '06

> Please take a look at > http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Main_Page I represent the GNU/Linux User Group of NIT Hamirpur (http://www.glug-nith.org). We were also planning something similar for our college only. But it would be better if we can have something which is meant for all Indian universities. Maybe the service can be linked to existing services like Savannah, Sarovar, Sourceforge. > Activity is low as MU engineering exams are in progress. But others can > chip in. We are also having ours. :( Regards, Debarshi

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Securing email ... Linux servers ... GNU/Linux CLI ... Lyx ... game clones of Tetris
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 22 May '06

22 May '06

Issue 12 of Free Software Magazine is out Another great issue with 10 articles on various aspects of free software. It's available in HTML and PDF download... for free! In Issue 12 of Free Software Magazine, Jerome Gotangco guides us through securing email communication and Yousef Ourabi shows us how to harden our Linux servers. Rosalyn Hunter introduces the GNU/Linux CLI for beginners and Terry Hancock explains LyX. We also get to have some fun when Robin Monks reviews some clones of a classic game: Tetris. And more... Download the whole issue as a high-resolution PDF file! http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/issues/issue_012

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Re: Problem printing with Gnome/RH9
by vvcrishna＠radiophony.com 22 May '06

22 May '06

Rony had advised me to try editing the printer selector in each application. I tried doing this with Mozilla, but cannot see the right way to edit the module using a line editor. Siddhesh also asked whether I was setting up OpenOffice for the printer, but I haven't done this, nor can I see how it is done. The OpenOffice installation was done long before the printer arrived. In case this is a very small fix, please mail me separately to avoid list noise, or point me to a faq where this is fully explained. Vickram

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CNN interviews Linus Torvalds
by Arun K. Khan 22 May '06

22 May '06

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/05/18/global.office.linustorvalds/

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Light weight google Calendar
by Francis 22 May '06

22 May '06

I was wondering how to extract data from the body of a HTTP 200 ok Header using PHP. What I am trying to do is to write a light weight GUI that connects to google Calendar[www.google.com/calendar] ! Why do this : Simple my cellphone does not support AJAX and I want to be able to update the calendar on the move from my cell !! I am sending the username along with password and a couple of other variables that google needs , to their authentication url [ http://francis.byethost22.com/googlelogin.php ] . In response it sends back a Auth token which I need to place in a cookie . How on god's green earth do I extract the token !! Francis . Warm Summerr !!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CNN interviews Linus Torvalds
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 May '06

21 May '06

>> RMS was NEVER associated with the Open Source movement. He is the >> founder of the free software movement, the GNU Project and the Free >> Software Foundation, and none of these are part of the Open Source >> movement. Atleast not according to RMS. (And I am a RMS fan.) >> > Think OpenSource and GNU without Linux. > Don't separate the things - Why one should envy or be jelous to any of > our community? And by hating each other - only M$ is gaining and > laughing at us. I am wondering why people starting GNOME v/s KDE and > Linux v/s GNU/Linux wars? Stating the fact that RMS was NOT a part of the Open Source movement does not convey any hatred towards anybody. It just clears some misinformation. In the same way that, if I said I am not part of the Indian cricket team I would not convey any hatred towards Indian cricket. :D Being a member of a GLUG (there IS a difference between a LUG and a GLUG, however subtle that maybe), we are expected to be aware of the differences between these various entities and terms. Otherwise how are we going to spread awareness about GNU/Linux. I found many of my fellow members refer to "the GNU utilities being used by Linux". Well that is again a mistake. Linux is the kernel which is a part of the whole operating system, which the GNU project, sponsored by the FSF started. There are other GNU based systems that use other kernels. eg., GNU/Hurd. Yeah it is true Hurd is still far from being complete, but that is again another matter. It is not a matter of a GNU/Linux vs. Linux warfare, it is just about getting the record straight. Linus Torvalds should get full credit for developing such a wonderful monolithic kernel, and releasing it under the GNU GPL. Similarly RMS should be credited with spearheading other components of the system. Namely the compiler (GCC), a text editor (GNU Emacs), the debugger (GDB), the shell (GNU Bash), a desktop environment (GNOME), the bootloader (GRUB) and so on. These are very important parts of the system without which Linux would not have been able to survive. The other way round is true also. So honestly there is no scope for flame wars, as long we give credit where it is due. Regards, Debarshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CNN interviews Linus Torvalds
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 May '06

21 May '06

>> http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/05/18/global.office.linustorvald >>s/ > Linus isn't really the father of the open source movement. RMS has a > lions share to say the least :) RMS was NEVER associated with the Open Source movement. He is the founder of the free software movement, the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation, and none of these are part of the Open Source movement. Atleast not according to RMS. (And I am a RMS fan.) Debarshi

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[ot] mono laser printer recommendation?
by Abhishek Daga 20 May '06

20 May '06

hi, am looking for a mono laser printer (and/or multifunctional device) where the primary criteria is economy in running cost. my guess is that those toners that can be refilled with ease (as opposed to buying new cartridge each time) drastically brings down the cost. is that correct? if so then what are the printers that allow for this? Speaking of multifunctional devices, are they really compelling? especially the ones which have Fax and PC fax? the samsung multifunctional 4110 is only 2000 more than regular mono laser but without a fax. any recommendations based on first hand experience, highly solicited. thanks abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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ET:Microsoft and Open Source
by Nikhil Marathe 20 May '06

20 May '06

Today's economic times(pg 13) has an interbiew with some microsoft guy about the companies outlook to open source. It seems he didn't know what he was talking about. There are a few things which stand out. 1. "We see open source as a software development method" He undoubtedly has still not opened his eyes to the revolution 2. "We compete with OSS products" He continued to mention red hat, ibm and oracle. THey don't realise that the bigger threat is from the stuff that matters to the majority of the people. its projects like KDE and ubuntu leading to their gradual fall, the ones that matter to the common people, not products made by some company. 3. "OSS is at its peak" I thought we are still at the foot of the mountain (or a plateau since we never go down) while microsoft is finished climbing and now going down 4. "99% of devs work on drivers and such" Yes i suppose kde/gnome/etc are all device drivers offering a protocol to communicate with the user's brain. its not the kernel thats starting to matter these days, its the software on top of it. I have always been one who doesn't give a damn about enterprise level software. its not a big problem if linux doesn't reach there, it is almost never seen by Average Joe. the place where it matters on the desktop, the DE's, the search tools, the browsers, the multimedia. That is what is going to reinforce linux on the desktop, that is m$ biggest threat since most of their revenue comes from windows. M$ seriously has to wake up and reassess the situation, they are still stuck in the OSS situation of say 5 years ago. What are your views on the article. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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