Linuxers February 2009

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National Coalition for promotion of FOSS - meeting on 22.02.2009
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Dear All, Many of us have been advocating for several years the adoption of FOSS applications and platforms and FOSS related advocacy has been gathering momentum. Last year, we had an advocacy processes relating to software patents and the OOXML debate, we had RMS and Eben Moglen visiting various places in India sharing their views on FOSS. Yet, we do have a long way to go before FOSS is widely used in India. Bringing different groups of actors (who believe in the principles of Free Software), including academic institutions, NGOs and CBOs, research and advocacy groups, professional associations, FOSS enterprises providing services in different areas as development, training, support and maintenance, we believe will help in supporting and cohering a positive discourse in favour of FOSS. Some of us have been thinking that a loose national coalition of such individuals/ organizations and associations should be formed that will work towards the widespread adoption and promotion of FOSS. Such a network of organizations working along a broad consensus on promoting FOSS will provide stronger and more effective responses to events relating to FOSS as well as initiate proactive actions than perhaps individuals or institutions acting in isolation. We are writing to you all, to suggest a meeting to discuss this idea of the coalition and thereafter also items for immediate action. We would request you to join for a half-day meeting, on Sunday, the 22nd of February to discuss the same. Time : 3pm - 6pm Venue : CIS office, Cunningham road, Bangalore, landmark - same building as Wockhardt hospital Map : [1]http://tinyurl.com/apltcb Present below is the proposed agenda for the meeting - a. Formation of a national coalition of organisations advocating for FOSS. The goals, scope, priorities, approaches, structures, issues / risks, alternatives, resources for such a coalition etc, name of the coalition will be discussed. Some proposed activities which can be discussed - b. Working with government departments and public sector units advocating them to adopt and promote FOSS When we individually speak to any of our contacts/departments in the government the impact may not be significant. However, if we send collective representations to departments such as the e-Governance, IT, Education, RDPR departments, and seek meetings to explain the issue and the advantages of FOSS, it would gradually help them to look at the issue in depth. c. FOSS initiatives in the country, including the Gujarat ICT in schools program Many state governments across India are in different stages of adoptiong FOSS (many on the extreme of not using FOSS!) and we can share our understanding and views on the current situation. The Gujarat government for instance is implementing a 500 crore ICT in school education program. They are inclined to go towards FOSS, however the final decision has not been taken yet. We need to look at ways so that they consider FOSS seriously. There are also plans for a FOSS workshop in Delhi, where different groups, including political parties and government officials could be invited and disuss the advantages of adopting and promoting FOSS. d. FOSS initiatives in Karnataka There are some initiatives in Karnataka for which we can work together to help in the adoption of FOSS. We have an informal request for a proposal for a pilot project to train government staff and vendor staff in Bangalore on GNU/Linux platform that has been chosen for the ICT in schools program. We also need to work on the issue of using Nudi on FOSS. A big impediment currently to getting the government to use FOSS is be that 'Nudi' works only on MS Windows and does not work on FOSS distributions. Lastly we should explore what could be done to help VTU adopt FOSS and prefer it over proprietary technologies. Engineering colleges adopting FOSS will make a huge impact on the creation of the FOSS ecosystem in the state. We can also discuss other means and methods which we can collectively work on to promote FOSS. Please do let us know if you can make it (so that we know how many chairs, tea/coffee we need) Please mail [2]vinay(a)itforchange.net to let us know. Please also mail in with suggestions and ideas for the agenda for the meeting. In case you are interested in participating in the coalition, but are unable to join the meeting, please do email and let us know. Thanks, Vinay (On behalf of the organizers - Anivar Aravind, ,Gurumurthy K, Renuka Prasad, Sunil Abraham, Vinay Sreenivasa) -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 [3]vinay(a)itforchange.net [4]http://itforchange.net [5]http://india.is-watch.net/ [6]http://is-watch.net References 1. http://tinyurl.com/apltcb 2. mailto:vinay@itforchange.net 3. mailto:vinay@itforchange.net 4. http://itforchange.net/ 5. http://india.is-watch.net/ 6. http://is-watch.net/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 70, Issue 43
by Suhit Kelkar 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

this is to vote +1 for harsh busa's proposal.

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download Edubuntu
by yogesh kunjir 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

hi i want to download Edubuntu 7.10 is any server in mumbai have that copy of Edubuntu 7.10 please hurry i have to download it by today itself or suggest a good mirror for download my internet speed is good enough to download it waiting for your reply -- sincerely, योगेश Saddest quote of funniest man "I like to walk in rain because no one can see my tear" i am more +ve than just a A+ve read me @ http://technology-4-you.blogspot.com/

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foss calendar
by Kenneth Gonsalves 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Hi, after a brief hiatus, the foss calendar is now getting up to date. Please contribute to this to make it a definitive guide to Indian foss events: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/calendar/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Naveen Gaikwad 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

LinkedIn ------------ Naveen Gaikwad requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Anish, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Naveen View invitation from Naveen Gaikwad http://www.linkedin.com/e/XdkNO88R6aIIOUdc07XoUSOo0now6kIxdGp2S7/blk/919618… ------------------------------------------ DID YOU KNOW LinkedIn can help you find the right service providers using recommendations from your trusted network? Using LinkedIn Services, you can take the risky guesswork out of selecting service providers by reading the recommendations of credible, trustworthy members of your network. http://www.linkedin.com/e/svp/inv-25/ ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation

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[JOB OPENING] Embedded Linux Systems Engineer
by Akshay Bajaj 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Hello, We have a opening for an "Embedded Linux Systems Engineer" that will involve developing GUI applications in C/C++ on an embedded linux distribution (like DSL) that runs on a handheld device with touch panel / RF modem etc. As its our first step into the embedded linux world we're looking for someone who 'really knows his stuff well' and hopefully has some experience in a similar sort of project. We are going to be doing a number of interesting & very challenging projects and expanding the team, and therefore this presents an excellent growth opportunity. Job details can seen at: http://jobs.monsterindia.com/details/6741169.html We are conducting interviews on Saturday 21st Feb between 2pm and 6pm. Pls. contact Avitus Periera to schedule your interview. In case you can't make it due to such short notice, Avitus will reschedule your interview for another day. He can be contacted by: Email:avitus.pereira@net4uonline.com<Email%3Aavitus.pereira(a)net4uonline.com> Tel: 40108555 Mobile: 9765864666 Net4Uonline Pvt. Ltd. D-202, Crystal Plaza, New Link Road, Andheri West Mumbai 400 053 Pls. email me if you have any questions. Thanks & regards, Akshay Bajaj Founder and CEO Net4Uonline Pvt. Ltd. http://www.net4uonline.com/ Tel : +91 22 40108555 Fax: +91 22 22186274 Cell: +91 (0) 9820287103 (India) +44 (0) 7811124535 (UK)

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[vid@svaksha.com: Fwd: Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn]
by Devdas Bhagat 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

----- Forwarded message from VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> ----- From: VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> Date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > P.S.: I am CCing this email to you Ms.Ayer. This is *not* to harass > you. It is purely because you have unsubscribed and you ought to read > this reply. Dinesh Joshi, I am sick of your personal attacks after I have left the list and you still *dont* get to decide for me. I had to ping Devdas about this on IRC, so keep trolling the BOM LUG list and dont send me your abusive mails. Further, this is to clarify that i left the list after I read Anurag's mail on moderation which said : "Not allowing their posts in seemed like the best way to stop them from posting even after repeated request, and give some time to cool down." [ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20090216/066061.ht… ] . After reading the above mail, I PM'd Devdas(f3ew) on IRC (07:56:42 CET) and subsequently on the #lc channel to check and he said he didnt have the new password and finally replied that he didnt know if I was on moderation or not (jftr, I have taken f3ew's permission to quote him here). Since the second admin didnt know, and the first admin said I was moderated, I decided to leave the moderated list. I sent the mail to 3 folks and it was only after Kenneth forwarded my email to the list, that Anurag clarified the moderation issue : http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20090216/066072.ht… . This ambiguity around moderation was cleared an hour ago by devdas on irc. Does it matter ? *shrug* Raj Mathur, a troll can get away with bullying and not get hauled up for having 40+ threads on the linkedin issue?? Nice to know that. My entry was after 40+ mails : http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20090209/065909.ht… . Asking people on the list to contribute results in getting attacked for my gender because I spoke about Linuxchix on the BOM lug?? Nice twist...and the list admins did nothing to stop the numerous strawman arguments, flamebaits and informal fallacies. Asking me to shutup was the easiest but claiming she "/gratuitously/" introduced topics into the discussion is quite something when you were busy warming your hands and munching popcorn !! -- Vid || http://www.svaksha.com || ----- End forwarded message -----

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[X Post] Fwd: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux
by Kartik Mistry 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Worth read for those who thinks that current Debian Installer process and guide is heavy for them :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Eric Doviak <eric(a)doviak.net> Date: Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM Subject: Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux To: debian-boot(a)lists.debian.org Cc: rmh(a)aybabtu.com Dear Debian Installer Team, Congratulations on the recent release of Debian Lenny. I would also like to tip my hat to the people who worked on the installation guide[1] and its translations into 16 languages. They did a fantastic job. The comprehensive nature of that 141-page guide is invaluable to anyone who has to perform a complex and/or uncommon task (such as using TFTP to boot a computer over a network from another machine). The trouble with comprehensiveness is that it frightens a new user who is simply trying to set up a home desktop. For them, Debian's official installation guide is not a good introduction to Debian and it is completely at odds with the spirit of projects like Robert Millan's Goodbye-Microsoft.com[2], where the goal is to provide the simplest possible transition from MS Windows to Debian GNU/Linux. For people who are new to GNU/Linux and are simply trying to install Debian on a home desktop, I wrote an "Illustrated Guide to Installing Debian GNU/Linux."[3] The guide is 10 pages long and is filled with screenshots (to make the user feel comfortable). To add a touch of comprehensiveness, I also included 12 pages of appendices to help them select partition sizes, introduce them to package management, etc. When I wrote the guide, I had the users of Goodbye-Microsoft.com in mind, so I submitted it to Robert Millan, who asked me to send it to you. I never intended to create an official Debian document, but -- if you think that it is of good quality -- I would be happy to help you turn it into one ("source code"[4] and all 73 screenshots[5]). Let me know what you think of the documents and please let me know what I can do to help make Debian more friendly to new users. Thanks, - Eric Doviak [1] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual [2] http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ [3] http://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_guide.pdf [4] http://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_guide.tar.gz [5] http://www.doviak.net/debian/debian_install_shots.tar.gz -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Debian GNU/Linux Developer Blog.en: ftbfs.wordpress.com Blog.gu: kartikm.wordpress.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Mehul Ved 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM, VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> wrote: > Devdas, as per our IRC chat, I sent this message yesterday, more than > 12 hours ago, but didnt get a "pending admin approval" message till > today. Are'nt non-members supposed to get the "pending" message? As per my understanding, we have removed all moderation on the list unless members are manually put to moderation or the mail exceeds specific size limit. So, the mail should go without coming up for moderation. But, the more experienced list owners/admins would be able to give a more authoritative answer. -- Are we not men?

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threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by VidAyer 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Rony <gnulinuxist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > At least this thread has got some interesting facts about some members > who spam the list. > > I have a suggestion to the list admins. Whenever the list receives any ...and I have a request... it would be nicer if folks ignored it or asked the admins (write to the list-owner) to rein in the offending person(s), instead of the current 20+ long thread (which I am sure was much fun), which is far more annoying than the OP. YMMV -- Vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

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